This is how the United States of America ends: not with a bang, but with the specter of a giant fucking clown car pulling an unlicensed street taco cart.
(h/t bookworm)
This is how the United States of America ends: not with a bang, but with the specter of a giant fucking clown car pulling an unlicensed street taco cart.
(h/t bookworm)
Forget it, Jake. It’s
ChinatownCalifornia.I’m a little surprised he decided not to take advantage of his innate superiority in the trades.
on levin’s show tonight a caller mentioned this progg ruling that leads to this post:
Plyler v. Doe
Appellants: J. and R. Doe, certain named and unnamed undocumented alien children
Appellees: James L. Plyler and others
Appellants’ Claim: That a Texas law withholding public funds from local school districts for educating children not legally present in the United States and encouraging school districts to deny these children enrollment is constitutionally valid.
Chief Lawyers for Appellants: Peter D. Roos, Peter A. Schey
Chief Lawyers for Appellees: John C. Hardy, Richard L. Arnett
Justices for the Court: Harry A. Blackmun, William J. Brennan, Jr., Thurgood Marshall, Lewis F. Powell, Jr., John Paul Stevens
Justices Dissenting: Chief Justice Warren E. Burger, Sandra Day O’Connor, William Rehnquist, Byron R. White
Date of Decision: June 15, 1982
Decision: Ruled in favor of Doe (the illegal alien children) by finding that the Texas law violated the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause and struck it down.
Significance: With this decision, states could no longer deny public education to children only because they were illegal aliens. The Court’s opinion provided an important statement on the importance of education to American society.
link
Hey, the law profession has been sawing at the limb its been sitting on for decades now. Part of the problem is that computers can do an honest lawyer’s job. It’s almost a perfect task for a database and an expert system. If someone ever creates a computer that can bullshit and destroy an opponent’s credibility by sly implications and manufactured expert testimony then human lawyers will no longer be necessary.
The Court’s opinion provided an important statement on the importance of education to American society.
nice leftist bubble you got their.
It’s a simpler explanation to just write “The court’s opinion re-wrote the fourteenth amendment.”
Rule of Law? Pfeh!
To be written on the tomb of the US of A: “Sometimes ‘nuance’ is a bad thing.”
I’m a little surprised he decided not to take advantage of his innate superiority in the trades.
Too bad nr is on the other side of the country. Lawyer guy and his hermanos could fix his roof problems in a jiffy.
Why don’ they just let him practice law without a license as an “undocumented lawyer”? If you don’t need the proper provenance or paperwork to be a US citizen, you shouldn’t need a law degree or license to practice law. And if any CA lawyer or institution doesn’t recognize him he should sue ’em for raaaaaaaaaaacism.
He’s just doing the work that Amercian lawyers won’t do, Libby.
Hmmmm. Maybe if more “undocumented Americans” pushed lawyers out of high paying jobs (and depressed the profession’s wages) we’d finally get some interest in controlling the borders…. Would be fun to watch.
Rule of Law? Pfeh!
I can’t be the only one thinking Sir William Blackstone is spinning in his grave.
cherokee nation update
Elizabeth Warren loses it, lashes out at “right wing extremist” (me)
If an illegal can practice law with a license, does this mean a legal can practive law without one?
so nothing has really happened the state bar just says he’s not a bad person is all… he can’t practice law yet
he can’t practice law yet
he can practice lawlessness in mexico no?
he’s from chico god love him Mr. newrouter
boy done made something of himself
happyfeet —
Yes or no: this illegal who made something of himself should be allowed to practice law in the US.
‘feets –
Yes or no: this is what a griefer does.
nothing to see here, pay no attention to that state bar language behind the curtain. It’s just right wing bitterclinger hyperventilation of the kind that embarrasses the good kind of Jeb Bush Republicans by suggesting that illegals aren’t just as entitled to jobs in the US as actual citizens.
And that’s just the kind of racist yuckiness that turns people off from being Republicans.
he’s from chico god love him Mr. newrouter
boy done made something of himself
affirmative action with guacamole
it seems more like the deal is that the state bar had to rule that he was morally fit for so the high court could take this case … it’s not a foregone conclusion that they’ll let him practice even under the narrow constraints indicated … in fact this may prove to be the avenue what closes the independent contractor loophole
at least in California
we will see
lawyers are they mostest guildy guild of them all, you know
Yes or no, happyfeet: this illegal who made something of himself should be allowed to practice law in the US.
Those aren’t super hard questions to answer.
People who come out of the gate breaking the law aren’t morally fit. So let’s let Bernadine Dohrn practice law anyway.
Being here illegally isn’t breaking the law law, Pablo. Why do you bittercling? It’s unseemly. Besides, they’re the best of us and they work harder at roofing.
I’d think the fact that he is not a citizen would preclude him from practing the law, since he’s a law-breaker.
Bernadine Dohrn is actually a paralegal, Pablo. That felony conviction done ruined her shot a rain-making anywhere in the US. It’s so hate-y. All that terrorist stuff happened so long ago and all.
Bittercling is a great portcoin.
I think he should be given a green card and allowed to do lawyer things …. it’s a free market if people don’t want to hire a green carder lawyer then they don’t have to
you all don’t get the world citizen stuff. felafels uber alles.
Now that he’s raised his profile, he should go to the Immigration office and file his paperwork and see what they have to say.
Is it really that hard to answer a question? Because you haven’t yet.
(You’re sorta answering the griefer one though. That sucks. I’d prefer you weren’t one.)
You should hang around a humanities department at a liberal arts college if you want to really experience the guild environment.
I think he should be given a green card
thank you judge/jury/us gov’t
So. The answer to the question, “Yes or no, happyfeet: this illegal who made something of himself should be allowed to practice law in the US,” is yes.
The prosecution rests.
I must be getting old & (even) more senile. When I took the bar and sought my license to practice, I had to prove that I was a California resident and I had to take an oath to uphold the constitutions of the U.S. and California.
If this gentleman isn’t a citizen and not in California legally, how has he established that he is a “California resident” and that he can “uphold” either of the constitutions?
I trust Mr. Chico to uphold the Constitution every bit as well as the other bar-approved law whores and a damn sight better than a lot of them
He’s more of a squatter than a resident.
Fine, you’re a griefer.
I trust Mr. Chico to uphold the Constitution
according to the proggs. you go pikachu
Why?
In related news, water is wet, and a bear does shit in the woods.
They missed a few key words.
Is Hosni Muburik merely dead or really most sincerely dead?
I know, Ernst.
I’m occasionally surprised and cringe anew though when people don’t have any self-respect. ‘feets isn’t a moron, this is a conscious choice he’s making. It’s just too foreign for me to personally understand so I think of it as otherwise for long stretches of time.
I think this article explains it much better
he definitely earned his law license now we just need to work on getting him hooked up with some papers
Garcia was 17 months old when his parents illegally brought him
his back is damp
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
getting him hooked up with some papers
castro on the strip
plus we learn this…
he just wants to chase ambulances is all it’s not like he wants to set fire to the rain or whatever
No, “we” don’t, happy.
The place to start is back in Mexico.
Garcia has said he would like to do litigation and personal injury law.
Great. He probably has a whole posse of vatos who run that insurance scam of boxing you in on the freeway and slamming on the brakes. Probably has a closeful of crutches and neckbraces and crooked doctors lined up to get kick-backs.
Garcia has said he would like to do litigation and personal injury law
fast and furiously run to mexico
Everybody should practice law because the law doesn’t really matter. You just need to hope the judge is sympathetic.
he speaks english he studies hard he like bees
this one’s a keeper
I’ve known a lot of lawyers and watched a lot of Court TV. Good enough, I say!
here’s Mr. Chico without the glasses and with different facial hair
plus he has a pen
he’s got two hands in his pockets he broke but he’s happy he’s poor but he’s kind
What annoys the fuck out of me with ‘feets is that I take some congruent positions from gay people to our friends to the south and he takes the strongest, non-defensible argument and makes everyone hate anything within a thousand yards of those positions.
Well-played, sir. If you secretly hate everyone you advocate for.
this one’s a keeper
How ’bout we trade you to Mexico for him then?
He’s a errand boy sent by grocery clerks, bh.
That he does it of his volition and without recompense is just pathetic.
I have no idea what you are talking about Mr. bh this has nothing to do with gay marriage really
I don’t see the harm in what the bar did – the ball’s now with the California Supreme Court and even then he’ll be severely limited in how he can use his license … I suspect that’s why he’s looking towards ambulance chasing, cause that’s the easiest way he can make a living at lawyering while he’s waiting for citizenship – cause of it’s most amenable to the “independent contractor” approach he’d be forced to take
Sorry, ‘feets, I don’t hate Latinos so I’m not particularly invested in helping you here.
good good good we can’t be hating our latino friends they’re the only ones standing between us and the asian invasion!
madre de dios!
while he’s waiting for citizenship
go mexico
The harm that the bar did is that it diminished the value of belonging to the California bar.
Kinda like how Harry Reid and Steny Hoyer have pissed all over their colleagues because there was an ephemeral political advantage.
can’t be hating our latino friends they’re the only ones standing between us and the asian invasion!
thank you ted kennedy and your bill
“Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.”
Yeah man, but he keeps releasing albums though! Or is that Tupak? I get ’em mixed up.
This guy can practice law in 5 to 15 years after he receives his permission in due process.
You know, that rule of law thing.
I think it’s tragic his parents put him in this position, but there are also thousands of parents waiting in line to come to America legally with youngsters just as bright
But they have an ocean between them and here, rather then a bus ride from TJ to San Diego.
Poor advocate: laws are less important than my feelings. Bigots.
Actual advocate: Latin America represents the best possible immigrant opportunity available amongst all post-industrial first world nations. Japan has robots. Europe has welfare Muslims. By maintaining the rule of law and strong cultural integration, we’re well poised to seize this advantage and — after returning our economy to something once again resembling America — escape the well-established national death spiral that results from our current aging welfare state.
Compare. Contrast.
Citizenship? What’s his path to citizenship? Obama 2012!
I really don’t care what California does. We need to prevent anyone from there from ever relocating again though. That goes for vacations and company outings at the Jersey shore as well. Nothing.
that seems like a drastic measure Mr. Abe
I don’t think we’re as well-poised as all that Mr. bh, but I agree with the gist of it
Nah. Drastic would be carpet-bombing every inch of the state. Gratifying, but drastic. Internment is moderate by comparison. And utterly necessary.
I hyphenate at random, pretty much. Just wanted to note that.
the pikachu underground will fight you
Nah, you’ll just make everyone hate Californians instead. That’s what you do. It’s not what you have to do though. It’s a choice.
The rule of law is for suckers. Staunch means never having to lay a foundation.
, tooth and toejam.
the rule of law is awesome let’s give this kid some papers
Still waiting for the pikachu underground to explain why it thinks illegal alien law-whore Chico will do a better job of upholding the Constitution than the other law whores.
I was thinking about the best way to put this, vis-a-vis happyfeet and conservatism, and here’s what I came up with: happyfeet is to staunch as staunch is to not really staunch in the slightest, and in fact, truth be told, decidedly anti-staunch, to the point that actual staunchness, recognizing the happyfeet version of staunchness hoping to replace it, runs runs runs like Donald Sutherland in the Kaufman remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
— Which is probably too long to make the point, but still.
the rule of law is awesome let’s give this kid some papers
The speed of light is constant warp speed Mr. Sulu
Chico just wants to chase ambulances Mr. Ernst he’s not gonna tangle with el constitutiono
besides he’ll have to take an oath and stuff
er… Abe… there are some of us fighting behind enemy lines here … be mindful of friendly fire, m’kay?
i am so effing staunch sometimes I have to tell myself to take the dogma down a notch, at least when it’s just me and fletcher and the turtles
They are the best of us, Ernst.
But not because of the noble savagery. More because of Tim Tebow’s cumslut mom is why.
happyfeet is to conservatism as Jell-O is to nutritious
He should be deported if for no other reason than that the stupid wetback went to law school and prepared for/took the bar exam when he had no reasonable expectation of being an abogado en Los Estados Unidos. He’s sufficiently well-prepared to work in a Tijuana donkey sex show now though.
A guy whose very presence before the bar of the State of Clownifornia is violation of the law is going to promise to uphold the rest of the law.
Only in Clownifornia
er… Abe… there are some of us fighting behind enemy lines here … be mindful of friendly fire, m’kay?
There will be safe zones. McDonald’s. Car race tracks. Gun shops. Any place that liberals are already afraid of.
That’s a non sequitur. Just like the other emotives you attempt to pass as reasoned arguments.
OT: I held off for a very long time until I was finally forced but now I’m pleasantly surprised.
I can actually point my phone at the sky and it shows what constellations I’m looking at. That’s remarkable.
A surprisingly high number of California escapees lose their tendency towards kowtowing to the forces of fuck-headedness within about three years. They realize that the nervous, uptight, clueless, superior yet ashamed culture they are leaving behind isn’t worth sustaining. Then they get a boring haircut, go out two stepping one night, and start living on Earth.
After that it’s harder to sell them on a public train that will never pay for itself even at full capacity, goes from nowhere to nowhere, and was made for a few rich people who hate commuting but still won’t ride it.
They are trouble that first three years though. Largely the trouble comes from wanting to fix or tame all the quasi-medieval, ultra- homophobic, mega-racist, date-rape promoting, psycho cowboys of their legends. They do this by intimidation and hurling random accusations at total strangers who look “like hicks” while being absolutely terrified of them. They also have a lot of trouble with considering themselves unusually street smart despite never having been near the areas they warn people about or claim are pretty much harmless despite the actual crime statistics.
A lot of people in Nevada, Colorado, Montana, etc. call bullshit on that, palaeo. They’re destructive insects. The Western equivalent of Massholes.
Here’s a simple question: are all illegal immigrants — by definition — criminals?
This article says no
Gotta go with Abe on that one.
Here’s another simple question: Do illegal aliens have the right to be in this country?
When in doubt, you can always take the Swiss approach.
And you wonder why people ask about the relevancy of your roofing anecdotes, BT.
This here is what fishermen call a red herring.
Say what you want about New York lefties, but at least they’re too smug and insular to relocate anywhere that isn’t already excessively liberal.
Why is it a red herring? If you overstay your visa what criminal code have you violated?
If you enter the country illegally, was the crime committed at the place and time of entry and is not a continuing violation.
The links I have followed do not say how Garcia re-entered the country at 17. But it does say his green card application has been languishing for 19 years. Wonder what that is about.
BTW the roofing anecdotes were relevant to the work ethic tangent following Abe’s post. Whether my original smart play post was relevant depends on whether you thought i was referring to this group or the politicians from the GOP who might be moved to respond to Obama’s end run.
This isn’t how this works, BT. No, you show how it’s relevant. It’s not. (And, no, I’m not going to search through the criminal code for the specifics of that offense. Shit, all you did was say, “This article says no.”)
In case you feel like playing this game, I certainly hope he’s never earned a single dollar here or used fraudulent documents. He’s certainly broken great portions of the criminal code. It’s a practical necessity when you’re an illegal alien.
Still doesn’t matter though.
Is it right and proper for a person who is here illegally to become an officer of the court? Why not address the issue head on rather than divert attention like this?
The links I have followed do not say how Garcia re-entered the country at 17.
Hmmm… I wonder. Are you kidding?
“Is it right and proper for a person who is here illegally to become an officer of the court? Why not address the issue head on rather than divert attention like this?”
Head on says – you don’t have to be a US citizen to be a member of the bar. I think Scotus decided that in 1973. But you do have to be a resident alien. Garcia doesn’t qualify for that.
So no legally he is not entitled to admission to the bar, unless the bar changes it’s by laws.
“Hmmm… I wonder. Are you kidding?”
No the circumstances of entry reflect on current status
Did feets just close his case appealing to mothing more than subjective worth? Why yes, yes he did.
That so resembles Obama on the very same subject.
Have illegal aliens violated the law? Yes. Period.
Next.
I think personal injury lawyers should be illegal.
What, what?
That’s its opinion.
Sure. I mean: he could have been kidnapped and brought here against his will. That would not be a crime on his part. Similarly, he could have been forced at gunpoint to complete law school and take the bar exam. Not a crime on his part.
Barring the extremely unlikely circumstances of his being held at gunpoint and forced against his will to pursue a career in law for eighteen years, nonstop, the guy has definitely, willfully broken the law. He has not overstayed his visa, because he never had one.
Not sure what entering the US and using whatever devices he has to obtain e.g. driver’s license, etc counts in terms of criminal offense, but I’d guess they’d be somewhere above the misdemeanor level; possibly felony. Which, as everyone knows, can be morally upright if you’re being oppressed by teh patriarchy.
BTW that article that RT claims says he’s not a criminal…you only have to read down to comment #20 to see the refutation.
No, being in the US illegally is not itself a crime, any more than having evaded the police in a car chase is a crime. But the illegal entry? That’s a crime. As is the chase.
Or, shorter: what Pablo said:
Next stupid argument, please.
If pikachu were president, he’d be issuing XOs all over the place so that this little country of ours looks a lot more the way he feels it should. Which is of course a staunchly conservative thing to do: just fucking ignore the laws you don’t like.
Since being sworn into the bar means swearing to uphold the constitution, he can be sworn in and then self deport himself…
He is a good person and all.
Any place that liberals are already afraid of.
I’ll make sure to be at church then.
Gratifying to see other people realize that happyshits is a worthless troll.
Has illegal alien guy received financial aid in the form of PELL grants and student loans while attending our schools? You have to cough up a SSN to get those. Whose is he using?
he went to night school in nowheresville leigh
it’s affordable
it says…
this page says TITLE IV funding includes Pell Grants
I don’t much give a fuck if this dude got a full scholarship and only wants to practice law to help poor orphans beat back the tyranny of gruel.
He isn’t a citizen. He’s a law breaker.
End of story.
Staunch.
I wonder if he ever drove a car during the decade and a half since he was illegally in the US. Probably not, given that the bar decided he’s an upstanding citizen.
He’s a law breaker.
Yup. I said that yesterday. GMTA.
Illegal. He’s an illegal.
The problem is right there in the name. So is the solution.
Which is why the left (and certain “demographic pragmatist” RINOs) want to either change the name, or demonize those who use it.
i think the better thing to do is just give him a green card – he applied for one 18 years ago it says
chop chop
Moby says what?
Proof? He says isn’t good enough. Were are his copies and why hasn’t he pushed harder?
We have lots and lots of Green Card carrying Latinos around here. They can’t be that hard to get.
Where not were
Other silly pikachus know that green-card-applied-for doesn’t equate to green-card-granted.
Then why try to argue otherwise? Happyfeet does it because he’s a griefer, a moby, and because he gets off on pretending toward moral superiority as a devout adept of the cult of Otherness (religious Christians and white trash trailer parkers need not apply; they can go suck a juicy cock then finish it off with a pack of Snowballs).
What’s your excuse?
If you don’t like the law — hell, the Mexicans sure can roof quickly, and besides, I don’t live in a border state, so it’s easy to advocate for those yearning to be free! — work to change it.
Save that, you’re off point.
He applied, slart. The evil xenophobe racists just want to punish the best of us.
Racist.
The bar claims that his father is a naturalized citizen. If that were true, his green-card status would be automatically granted, pending some period of processing that I’m quite sure is shorter than 15 years or so.
So no legally he is not entitled to admission to the bar, unless the bar changes it’s by laws.
that’s not true though…
admission to the bar and being able to practice law are separate questions… if Chico had gotten convicted for being an illegal alien though I think their hands would’ve been tied
So, my bullshit detector is pegged on this guy’s sob story. A story that conveniently popped up just as the Amnesty issue reared it’s horned and ugly head once again.
How odd.
Even other silly pikachus understand that the law applies to everyone, including (some might say: especially) people who want to be lawyers.
Key bits bolded to help the reading impaired.
that’s from a 1973 Supreme Court decision
I bolded the key bits
I wonder if this played into the thinkings of the California bar’s decision
Your key bits bolded show that you still do not know how to read. The person in question is not just an alien; he’s an illegal alien.
apparently that doesn’t make a difference to the state bar of california Mr. Slart… they’re saying he’s good to go pending approval of the Supreme Court, which may very well throw a wrench in the works
That’s not what the cite says, happy.
happyfeet, absolutely no one here is arguing that the California Bar has not approved entry of said person.
yes but the title of the post says the bar said that he should be allowed to practice law
that is not what their opinion says they say there’s some very real problems with that ever happening
Bizarrely, the California Bar’s case to the California Supreme Court states in the same paragraph that Garcia is both a resident and nonresident alien. See Page 30, here.
The title of the post is taken from the article, which begins thusly:
I added the bolding.
Also, while you can be a resident alien under certain descriptions while being an illegal, you are also an illegal, and so a lawbreaker.
Yes, but Garcia himself is arguing for this (from my link, above):
i think the key word there is eligible – the question of whether he can practice is not up to the bar
yes slart Chico is appealing to the Supreme Court not the bar
My link doesn’t go to the California State Bar’s pleading, but rather: Garcia’s. Not sure what if anything the Bar has filed with the CA SC.
It’s not? Where are licenses to practice law granted, if not by the bar?
happy is taking us in into the weeds quite deliberately. The point is, the state bar shouldn’t be approving the eligibility of anyone here illegally, particularly on the basis that they have the moral character, having been living as lawbreakers (and breaking the law routinely) for years and years. Doing so provides just another building block upon which to tilt all roads left.
happyfeet argues from emotionalism; that’s the bailiwick of the left and the mo for all those interested in greasing every last slippery slope toward legal relativism — itself a necessary precondition of fascism.
Which he knows.
No kidding. Sorta like how INS (or whatever the hell it’s called these days), always manages to find some (conveniently telegenic) family that they’ll be forced to break up by sending the illegal Mommy/Daddy back home if the redneck haterz keep insisting that they do their jobs.
Garcia’s pleading is more notable in what it doesn’t say than in what it does. If there were clear details that would tend to make his case stronger, he’d have included them. But I think those details would tend to make it look as if he’s been lying all of these years on various things like college applications, drivers license applications, etc. I’d bet money that he has voted.
I have a certain sympathy with the guy: he’s been living a lie since before he was an adult, and has probably been living in some kind of (low grade; this is, after all, California) fear that he’ll be caught.
The problem is what to do with him. I would have no objection to him obtaining a work visa through some sponsoring organization as, say, the California State Bar. But permitting him to function as an openly illegal alien and practice law in the US is, I say, NOT the correct answer.
There was one kind of like that the other day, Ernst. Sheriff Joe’s deputies in Maricopa County “arrested” a six year old girl who was found on the streets. The girl had been abducted from Mexico and (they speculate) was to be sold as a sex worker had not the Sheriff’s office stepped in and removed her to safety.
Is the Sheriff’s office being painted as heroes? Hells no. We’re locking up SIX YEAR OLD GIRLS FOR GAWD’S SAKE!!!
The Bushies are all for this, by the way.
We have to agree to the government refusing to uphold its laws — and agree to our own demise. All so that politicians can have more tax revenue to spend.
Revolution time is (once again) nigh.
Thankfully, the Bushes are irrelevant today. They just steeple their fingers and peer at us over their half-glasses and tsk-tsk.
Fine with me, as long as he deports himself back to Mexico first.
Who do you suppose is going to people a Romney administration?
I agree with this
You’re joking, right? They are the ones at war with the TEA Party.
Here is the state Bar’s brief to SCOCA. Conclusion:
So, long way around: yes, the California State Bar IS in fact wanting to grant Garcia the right to practice law in CA.
Apparently, I should have used a sarcasm tag.
What does a mind bent by cartoon characters intend?
I don’t see “slavery!” when I see those shoes. I thought “Huh. They look like the shackles that felons wear in court, only orange. Prison chic.”
All those yutes who don’t tie their shoes? This looked like a solution. I was wrong.
” Nevada, Colorado, Montana, etc.”
Nevada, Colorado, Montana etc. can call bullshit all they want to, because those states are not where most of them went. Georgia, Texas, and Flordia sucked up most of them.
Montana only has a million people. Nevada is losing population despite being one of the fastest growing states a few years ago. Colorado is growing (mostly in suburbs) but it went blue since 2008 or so Californian exodites are not likely the big problem there.
Montana only has a million people. Nevada is losing population despite being one of the fastest growing states a few years ago. Colorado is growing (mostly in suburbs) but it went blue since 2008 or so Californian exodites are not likely the big problem there.
What does whether a state is red or blue, large or small have to do with anything? Ask some long time residents of an actual Western state about the negative influence of California transplants on their state’s culture. That’s really not something you can refute by Googling inflow and outflow patterns.
Ernst, we’re about to get the reverse. How can you deport the illegal Mommy/Daddy back home when their children are here practicing law for God’s sake. Wait for it…
Jeff, the revolution is six years in. We’re being rebelled against, and we better get off defense damn soon, if it’s already not too late.
Oregon was first, a generation or two ago. Nevada during the Terminator years. I don’t know where they’re going now, but Texans shouldn’t let happyfeet in, that’s for sure. The Alamo will have been for nothing.
I lived in Wyoming during the Carter/Reagan transition, and the people there held Californians in great contempt. A condescending, entitled attitude doesn’t go well with being dangerous fuckers on the road or on a hunt, leaving heaps of litter wherever they go.
And that was just the tourists…
I make a positive contribution wherever I go and I always leave my campsite cleaner than when I found it.
I was born and raised in California, just like Darleen and McGehee. I don’t think any of us are contemptible.
Have you bought bullets yet, for your gun? If so, here’s a hint, deer don’t wear John Deere hats. They’re different.
Well, leigh — we knew why we were leaving. That makes us the exception.
True dat, McGehee.
Oh, give it a rest leigh. I don’t think Darleen or McGehee are contemptible
I always leave my campsite cleaner than when I found it.
oh so you’re stealing stuff
Just me then, I guess.
Try and keep up leigh.
Maybe you could hire a person in the country illegally as an attorney and sue the shit out of the people there in Wyoming. They would expect no less…
What are you on about? I have not once defended the illegal alien lawyer guy on this thread.
It ain’t about you leigh, honest!
heh.
Besides leigh, you live in Oklahoma. Show up in Wyoming with those plates, and there will be completely different expectations. They would probably even pull you out if you were stuck in a ditch, without collecting $20 first. That’s the kinda thing a Californian does.
At least that’s how the stories went.
no bullets yet but if food stamp gets four more years I’m a buy me something sexy and german