Don Lemon gets disturbingly close to blaming “partisan rhetoric” as the cause of why Erickson, Frey, RSM, Ali Akbar, et al, are/were targeted …
Geez, if you wingnuts would just SHUT UP, then Brett Kimberlin’s fanboys wouldn’t be forced into such bad behavior.
– Here you see the problem in a nuthell. A number of Conservative bloggers are being harrassed and threatened by an ideolog nutbag, and all the Lefty host is worried about is covering Liberal ass.
If you wingnuts would just shut the eff up, there wouldn’t be a problem.
If Don Lemon were swatted, I suspect he would be calling it an “attack” and not a “prank.”
His problem was making his wife do the dishes /s
Ol lemonade boy sure made pain to empasize the lack of proof that Kimberlin was involved.
And then he went fishing for a moral equivalancy angle to the story. Man cant we all just get along?
Can I get a mulligan on my last and change my lemonade to lemon-fruity above.
Just barely OT : an article ‘splaining the powah! inherent in New Media; for evil or worse. “How Hashtags and Social Media Can Bring Megacorporations to Their Knees” (e.g. #StopRush)
– For your Saturday entertainment.
– Meet the Lagarflotsormur, Icelands answer to Nessie.
Heh: “This is how a movement builds in our new age: with an infinite capacity for amplification and lightning speed.”
And still no cure for stupidity.
I’m trying to watch this as someone who knows nothing of the background. There really is a weak correlation between Kimberlin and these swating incidents. He might be directing all of this, but nobody has done anything to prove that.
So if you’re trying to take this issue to the public, why the need to bring his name into it? If I’m completely new to this story, I’m wondering why Erickson in focusing on the guy who DIDN’T make the calls, and wondering why he’s giving the actual caller a free pass.
– Apparently, most of the young Progressives have never heard of the tower of Babel.
The Tower of Babel is some Xian crap, right? Progressives don’t have time for that stuff. They’re too busy saving the friggin’ world, thankyouverymuch.
– Its a bit confusing Burt, but the dust up seems to date and sprout up just at a time when the blogs began posting about Kimberlin, and the fact that the lame-brain media was ignoring the story.
– They either intentionally miss-report it like they did with Gabby’s shooter in Tuscon, claiming he was a young Republican for days until they had to fess up, or pretend it doesn’t exist. Whatever the Proggs need for media CYA, they’re on it.
Burt, geoffb has linked to a great deal of information about Kimberlin. Why this guy is out of prison is beyond me.
Anyway, search him on google or bing, as well as Aaron Walker who is in the middle of litigation with him. The Volokh Conspiracy has written about it two or more times and Eugene Volokh has taken Walker’s case pro bono.
New Media is good for somethings but lousy for others, and in fact makes some things worse:
Steyn already commented on “The Facebook Caliphate,” wherein he observes:
And this morning on TV I saw some talking heads—women from Egypt and Tunisia and such—who explained to the moderator that although the youth and other regular people started the “Muslim Spring,” it was quickly hijacked by the extremists, who were far better organized and who were well-entrenched in the institutions.
These moronic young revolutionaries don’t realize that the extremists ALWAYS hijack the revolution. Like the opportunistic, flesh-eating bacteria that is frequently on the surface of our skin, vicious tyrants need only a small breach in the skin to begin their vile work.
And the idiot revolutionaries are happy to slice into the body politic because it feels so good to overthrow The Man.
There really is a weak correlation between Kimberlin and these swating incidents.
The voice on the SWATting calls isn’t Kimberlin’s, but it very likely belongs to a close associate.
Also, Kimberlin is a sociopath who engages in vexatious and vindictive lawsuits and other aggressive behavior. There are plenty of indicators pointing to Kimberlin.
Because if it ain’t he and his crew, who else would it be?
I didn’t realize how little attention I gave the post on first reading. I regurgitated the content in the comments. That’s what happens when you get old.
Also, the nice horsey won’t take the triple crown today, which is kinda sad.
The connection for right now, since you have to catch the perp first to establish more, is that the guys Swatted had it happen after blogging about BK and being sued and/or threats of lawsuits over writing about BK’s past and expressing support for others being sued by him.
Some other links to background info. here [pdf], here, here , here [pdf], here, here.
Adding to geoffb’s links, R.S. McCain’s piece in the American Spectator.
But the other nice horsey won, so that’s OK.
I’ll Have Another got a pretty sweet deal: put out to stud at $30,000 a cover, about 150 times a year.
Beats racing.
Dicentra, not very outlaw.
I mean, you know once Obama was elected, WE became the extremists. Classic liberal constitutionalists. Revolutionary all over again.
too bad i’ll have another couldn’t have one for the road.
– I’ll have another has already earned future multi-millions in stud fee’s and assured a 2nd tier stable a place in the front of the line for the next 20 years. Pretty good gig for a horse that no one took seriously.
Intense Pressure of Struggling Campaign Slowly Transforms Vice President Into His Onion Caricature
All in all, this is pretty big for Don Lemon. Of course he can’t help inserting some proggy douchebaggery. He’s Don Lemon, after all. That he covered it at all is impressive.
– He probably gets a Mathews like tingle up his leg by playing outlaw, interviewing the enemy.
Abused spouse who has always covered up for partner now getting more abuse.
How much security does the Department of freakin’ Labor need? National security it ain’t.
more daily stupid
Spotted owl could be game-changer in Tombstone water war
because a couple of back hoes may scare the birdies whose range is 100’s of square miles
Now, even Zimmerman’s old phone number isn’t safe. Orlando Sentinel:
At age 49, Junior Alexander Guy got his first cell phone last month. The calls started immediately.
Strangers called at all hours. Some were insulting. Others angry. Sometimes, they threatened him.
“You murderer!”
“You deserve to die!”
By Day 2 he figured out what was going on: T-Mobile had given him the phone number formerly used by George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin in February…
He has moved out of his home and relocated his mother, who had lived with him, to a different location, he said.
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“I was not only afraid for my life, I was afraid for my mother’s,” he said.
Too bad. He should’ve thought about that before he decided to get the same phone number as a guy who doesn’t look like Obama’s son. He should consider himself lucky he hasn’t been beaten up as “justice for Trayvon.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/08/another-innocent-bystander-has-to-move-out-of-his-home-because-of-the-george-zimmerman-lynch-mob/#ixzz1xM7lsodI
Maybe I didn’t make myself clear earlier. I know there’s a connection between Kimberlin and all the swating going on. I read the Patterico piece, and a ton of the rest of the stuff, including listening to the audios that seem to make it clear exactly WHO it is making the calls.
What I’m saying is, if I heard NOTHING about this story before CNN’s presentation, I’m wondering why Erickson is bringing up the name of a guy whose only connection seems to be that the people being swated did stories on him within weeks of the police showing up at their doors. That, in and of itself, is a pretty weak connection.
So if I’m trying to present this to the public, I’m getting them on my side by talking about how this is potentially deadly, and not just a silly prank. I get people outraged… OUTRAGED!! at the idea of partisan politics going this far. Once I have them on my side, then I start naming names.
I think you’d be more likely to get results that way.
newrouter says June 9, 2012 at 9:03 pm…..
Another reason not to use T-Mobile. Honestly, other than the cutie pie spokesmodel, I can’t think of one thing they have going for them.
It’s a complex story, BurtTC. It isn’t easy to put it in a nutshell. But Ace did a pretty good job of it, for practical purposes.
It’s a complex story
bombing convict accuses rethuglican vp of buying pot from convict goes on and tries to take down peeps who exposes his mo who happen to lean to the right but he’ll do left too dontcha know.
Purposeful complexity to make the story harder to report on is one thing I think that BK and his friends have done.
Mark Steyn on one corner of the story.
Purposeful complexity to make the story harder to report on is one thing I think that BK and his friends have done.
yes that explains the valerie plame game
slimy leftist convict with ties to heinz – kerry – streisand- democrat party attack american citizens using “lawfare”.
“503 charity a democrat/progg attack outfit”
Pablo says June 9, 2012 at 9:16 pm:
“It’s a complex story, BurtTC. It isn’t easy to put it in a nutshell. But Ace did a pretty good job of it, for practical purposes.”
How many people who saw the CNN piece are going to read Ace’s post? My point is, you have to WANT to invest the time and effort into figuring out how Kimberlin is a bad guy, and why it’s important to stop him.
It’s easy for virtually anyone to see that swating is a bad thing, and if you start with that point, get as many people on board with the idea of stopping swating, then lead them back to Kimberlin, it might work. This approach though, throwing all the bathwater out all at once, without ever showing that the baby is in the tub, I don’t expect it’s going to have the effect people want.
Fox has been on this story, Burt. They have discussed it at length more than once. I’m pleasantly surprised the CNN touched it.
Since Kimberlin is using unknown confederates, naming Kimberlin as the mastermind would be the way that I would approach the story, as well. You say you have read the articles. Patterico is a public figure and is part of the judicial system. To SWAT him is very concerning. Bloggers with lower (anonymous) public profiles such as Ace getting monkey-warfared is second tier stuff, but no less disconcerting. You are familiar with Jeff’s stalker, are you not? She was/is crazy and dangerous and so is Kimberlin.
I think there is a major write-up brewing, but I am not a journalist.
How many people who saw the CNN piece are going to read Ace’s post?
” democrat bombing convict attacks rethuglican foes with lawfare”
“503 charity makes money by attacking bloggers”
“barbra streisand supports convicts attacks n bloggers”
– Tell me again how Bummblefuck was going to bring our troops home, be mondo transparent, and just totally fight this Middle East police action 180 from Bush.
– Oh, and close Gitmo.
– Instead he keeps ‘droaning’ on and on, following the Bush/Cheny plan to a T.
– You gotta think he’s totally lost the anti-war crowd, but its hard to know with fanatics.
“african-american heinz supports “lawfare” against political opponents”
well time for this:
We shall go on to the end, we shall mock them
fightin France, we shall mock themfighton the seas and oceans, we shall mock themfightwith growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall mock themfighton the beaches, we shall mock themfighton the landing grounds, we shall mock themfightin the fields and in the streets, we shall mock themfightin the hills; we shall never surrenderHow many people who saw the CNN
failing enterprise. go see the numbers.
I mean, you know once Obama was elected, WE became the extremists. Classic liberal constitutionalists. Revolutionary all over again.
By “revolutionary,” I mean storming the castle, tossing the king out the window, and burning down Parliament, leaving a power vacuum for the Bad Guys to fill.
That’s what they did with the Muslim Spring: oust Mubarak without any thought as to what would replace him. In that part of the world, you’d better be riding the strongest damn horse on the planet before you upend the current power structure, or you won’t like what you get.
Same with the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, China, etc. The idealists always figure that their first step is to destroy the current order, so they harness ordinary resentments to get people to knock down the walls.
Only they never realize until too late that they’ve been infiltrated by Charming Sociopaths—who are awfully good at pretending to be True Believers, but who are willing and able to play much dirtier than the idealists.
That’s why OWS is such a stupid thing: those naive morons are wholly unable to detect—much less expel—the Charming Sociopaths from their midst, so they’re doomed to be the first up against the wall when they finally get their glorious revolution.
conviction @ 11:45 pm
That was a good old-fashioned fixed fight tonight. Craziest decision ever.
Malkin at NRO.
1. Swatting is an obviously bad thing.
2. People who write things about Brett Kimberlin that Brett Kimberlin doesn’t like are getting swatted.
Those very basics of the story aren’t difficult to understand. As with anything else, those who truly want to understand a story aren’t going to get all they need to know from cable news. But people who know nothing about it will get the basic idea from these 2 things being told.
– Baghdad Bob is alive and well in the
WhiteHouse.
Yes, well, that’s because it’s not a gaffe. It’s what Obama, from his shallow ignorance, believes to be true.