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Meet Desmond Hatchett — the fulfillment of the Welfare State [Darleen Click]

The Leftists’ dream …

You have to say this much for Desmond Hatchett: He has a way with the ladies.

The 33-year-old Knoxville, Tenn., resident has reportedly set a Knox County record for his ability to reproduce. He has 30 children with 11 women. And nine of those children were born in the last three years, after Hatchett — who is something of a local celebrity — vowed “I’m done!” in a 2009 TV interview, saying he wouldn’t father more children.

But Hatchett is back in the news this week because he’s struggling to make ends meet on his minimum-wage job. His inability to make child-support payments on such a meager salary also means he’s back in court again and again, most recently to ask for a break on those payments.

“Yes, we’ve got several cases with Mr. Hatchett,” Melissa Gibson, an assistant supervisor with the Knox County child support clerk’s office, said with a sigh. […]

Gibson said she couldn’t say whether any of his children receive public assistance. The youngest is a toddler; the oldest is 14.

Dependency is the new freedom …

105 Replies to “Meet Desmond Hatchett — the fulfillment of the Welfare State [Darleen Click]”

  1. Pablo says:

    Uh, Ladies? WHY ARE YOU FUCKING THIS LOSER????

    Gibson said she couldn’t say whether any of his children receive public assistance.

    I’m willing to take a stab at it. Yes.

  2. Jeff Y. says:

    The guy is rotten. But let’s get some perspective.

    He’s no different from the tens of thousands of women who birth children they can’t afford. He’s no different from women who have children with multiple men to game the welfare system.

    There’s a giant government apparatus to force this guy to pay up. There’s enormous social pressure to spurn guys like him.

    None of that opprobrium exists for women who do the same thing as this jackass. Government actually pays women to have babies they can’t afford, but government bills men with child support.

    Women are the root of this problem, not men. I’m just saying.

  3. Mike LaRoche says:

    OT: the Lakers choke again!

  4. palaeomerus says:

    How do you have and keep a minimum wage job? They seem to all be temp, part time, or entry level trial-period wages. I haven’t seen any actual long term minimum wage jobs. Where do you find them?

  5. happyfeet says:

    what a joyous triumph of LIFE!

  6. B Moe says:

    How do you have and keep a minimum wage job?

    It’s tricky. You have to do just barely enough to keep from getting fired, but not show enough actually competency to get a raise or promotion.

    My observation is it almost has to be intentional.

  7. jdw says:

    Worse (possibly) than this scumbucket are the ‘#NATO3’ terrorists who are now sitting in Chicago jail unable to pay their $1.5M bail bonds. ‘Possibly’, because, well, read the story. These dopey kids, ‘terrorists’? Really? For speaking of filling a beer bottle with gasoline? A molotov cocktail is the world’s simplest ‘terrorist device’, then. Anybody with a few gallons of gasoline for the mower and weedwhacker, and a few mason jars for the pickled cauliflowers is possibly a ‘terrorist’ now.

    Chicago police might’ve upcharged just a bit, I’m thinking.

  8. Ruby Lennox says:

    Here we have a shining example of the Dan Savage-esque charge to go forth and fulfill your urges, because dammit, you can’t be expected to repress any part of your sexuality, can you? I mean, sometimes a guy just needs to sleep with ten different women in a month without wrapping it up first; you can’t expect him or them to deny his needs, can you?

  9. jdw says:

    The guy was a Rastafarian too, likely. Dope and a dick in the ‘hood and you’re da MAN!

  10. jdw says:

    what a joyous triumph of LIFE!

    Gays are drones, representing the dead-end of their father’s and their father’s genome; failshit in their bit-part in advancing the human species; unable to reproduce, because fecal sex doesn’t work like that. End of the line.

    That is all.

  11. happyfeet says:

    who even talks like that

  12. Dale Price says:

    I’m pulling for Durant to get a ring.

  13. Dale Price says:

    Behold the end-product of a multi-generational breakdown of family structures and the teaching of self-restraint.

    But the Marcotties will still find a way to blame the Christers.

    Plus, the State’s happy to take up the slack for yet another generation.

    Win-win!

  14. Dale Price says:

    No, it’s the glorious triumph of the Boomers sexual liberation ethos. Well-heeled suburbanites can insure themselves against such stupidity for a while (except that divorce lawyers can be expensive).

    But the urban and rural poor can’t imitate the same behavior without immediate consequences.

  15. jdw says:

    who even talks like that

    Ask nishi, if you can track her down, to ‘splain how evolutionary biology really works; and what is the real purpose of a soulless animal on this here mudball. It’s all written in those SCIENCE! tomes, trust me.

  16. jdw says:

    Here, ‘feets. To assuage any butt-hurt my commentary might’ve caused. )

  17. […] As Darleen Click put it, “Dependency is the new freedom . . . .” […]

  18. motionview says:

    The OC Register posted a number of graduation stories this weekend, here is the picture on the front page of the local news section of the paper.

    There are a lot of messages you can send in the pictures that go with these non-stories. Messages like this one lead to very few BAs and a lot more little Desmond Hatchetts.

  19. leigh says:

    The guy was a Rastafarian too, likely.

    No, he isn’t.

  20. leigh says:

    Gene, when my son graduated college last weekend, I was bugged (because, I’m a racist and all) by the number of kids who were wearing kente cloth stoles and majoring in useless shit like Black Studies One of the girls went full-tilt boogie and was wearing hijab under her mortar board. There were also two (2!) departments of basically Make up Your Own Major and Pay Large Bank to Do So that graduated.

    Thank goodness for all the math, science and business majors, although they were outnumbered.

  21. leigh says:

    I’m pulling for Durant to get a ring.

    From your keyboard to God’s ears, Dale.

  22. happyfeet says:

    thank you Mr. jdw tonight I been trying to collect the works of Australian experimental jazz trio The Necks without a lot of luck they’re all over youtube but I don’t want to just rip youtubes really I found a couple on amazon i could put into my cloud and that’s it

    amazon mp3 isn’t trying very fucking hard really… but they do have more than itunes has

    amazon needs to hire a fucking librarian I think cause of what they do not have is a library ethos I think, and they really should

  23. happyfeet says:

    a kente cloth stole and somewhere upwards of four bucks will get you a triple venti non-fat no-foam latte from starbucks is my understanding

  24. […] As Darleen Click put it, “Dependency is the new freedom . . . .” […]

  25. motionview says:

    Sunday Morning FNS Chris Wallace Watch:

    Joe Trippi: it is a clear path going forward: austerity or growth.

    Chris Wallace:

    (any rational non-leftist): actually that would be less debt, less taxes, less spending to achieve growth or more spending, more taxes, more debt to achieve growth

  26. motionview says:

    Sunday Morning FNS Chris Wallace Watch

    Evan Bayh: It all comes down to 6% of the population in 8 or 9 states.

    Every other talking head nods sagely.

  27. happyfeet says:

    fear is the thing with feathers what perches on the soul

    6% my ass

    people are scared shitless

  28. motionview says:

    leigh this should be required reading before declaring a major or signing for a student loan.

    The shame is that the STEM folks could really benefit from a good grounding in classical liberal education; instead we just try to survive our forced partitipation in Soc Sci / Humanities requirements.

  29. happyfeet says:

    college is just college

  30. happyfeet says:

    this is me deciding not to vote in November

  31. leigh says:

    I agree, Gene. I think all students would benefit from a classical liberal education. It would certainly thin the herds or the disinterested. STEM folks could once again go to Tech or A&M without having to put up with Early Childhood Ed majors pestering them for help with their Algebra 1 homework. Ed majors could go to Teacher’s Colleges. Social Sciences wouldn’t be allowed to suck in the poor and the minority students who will likely never see a return on their investment. Humanities could teach English majors to write a decent short story (yes, blue pencils striking large blocks of text and penciling in “what does this mean?” in the margins would be good). Teacher evaluations by students need likewise to be tossed.

    I can dream.

  32. happyfeet says:

    writing a decent short story is a LOT fucking harder than any stemmy stemmy stem business i think

    a short story give me an effing break this wasn’t on the syllabus wtf

  33. BT says:

    Short story writing skills should be taught in highschool. You shouldn’t have to go to college to learn communication skills.

    Happy i doubt the GOP in the house will pass the Severin as whipping boy bill simply because it is another demonize the rich bill. Even in the article mentioned Boehner gave himself wiggle room.

  34. happyfeet says:

    this “boehner” should forthwith set his mind to the task of sponsoring the Mr. Eduardo Saverin Tax Reform Act of 2012, what reforms our rapacious ass-rapey taxes and beseeches Mr. Saverin to please please please give our pitiful failshit little country another chance omg we are SOOOOOOOOOO sorry

  35. leigh says:

    Bt, happy is correct. It is very difficult to write a good short story. John Cheever excelled at it. Writing and communicating are two different animals. In fact, if you look at the yearbook pages devoted to Comunications Majors, you’ll find many pages devoted to beer pong prowess, Spring Break roadtrips and general frat bouse hijinx.

  36. BT says:

    Leigh,

    Seems to me half of happy’s posts would constitute short stories.

    Like the three story ghetto walmart he posted about many months ago.

  37. leigh says:

    Really? Does sound rather fantastic. Walmart doesn’t build in the ghetto, to my knowledge.

  38. BT says:

    And Happy i don’t see why we should have a Severin Tax Reform Act. Why should it be more advantageous to move to Singapore than to let his capital work it’s magic in the good ole USA?

    Why would we have talk of bi annual capital repatriation acts if the system wasn’t out of whack?

  39. BT says:

    And Happy i don’t see why we should not have a Severin Tax Reform Act

  40. happyfeet says:

    so many reforms so little time Mr. BT

    tick tock chop chop

  41. leigh says:

    In general, knee-jerk legislation named after an individual is emotional and not necessarily rational.

    Tax reform, writ large, should be on the table not piecemeal.

  42. happyfeet says:

    Walmart doesn’t build in the ghetto, to my knowledge.

    step into mi mundo mi amigo

  43. cranky-d says:

    I minored in created writing. It is not more difficult than vector calculus or writing chemical equations or anything else like that.

    If you want to be better at writing, write. Also, read a lot.

  44. happyfeet says:

    it was a goddamn dark and I’m telling you it was a really fucking stormy night, like prohibitively

  45. sdferr says:

    How far is Mr Hatchett and his harem an argument for de facto polygamy, made legal ? (Say, in an abandoned local junior high school gymnasium altered to the purpose, for instance. But not on tv if that’s what you’re thinking.)

    That is, he’s already got ’em, why not put ’em together and see what happens? Surely the experience would be more enlightening to the Hatchett clan (clans?) than reading Montesquieu’s Persian Letters.

    (This is both a joke and not a joke, just to be clear as mud about it.)

  46. LBascom says:

    California is very exited the Zuckerman lives here and is going to contribute $1.2 billion tax dollars for to feed the Mexicans that sneaked into the state, and the high speed rail to get the elite across the central valley where the sneaky Mexicans go lickity split.

  47. happyfeet says:

    Mr Hatchett sowing the seeds of sowing the seeds of love

  48. happyfeet says:

    it’s a bird it’s a plane it’s high speed rail fuck yeah

  49. leigh says:

    A rather frightening proposition, sdferr. Possibilities of bloodshed are great, indeed.

  50. leigh says:

    I minored in created writing.

    Are you published?

  51. sdferr says:

    OT: Gute Nacht.

  52. bh says:

    Some of the mothers of Hatchett’s children get only $1.49 a month, reported WREG in Memphis.

    That’s some top notch parenting right there. People don’t want to get all judgey but that’s just another way of saying, “Those kids can go to hell for all I care.”

    OT, went water skiing yesterday and today. It’s a funny little free-rider issue in its own right. I can’t justify getting a boat for how little I’d use it but half my friends use weekend parties on the lake to justify theirs. Bless them. It’s not really possible to bring enough steak and beer to even it out.

  53. leigh says:

    bh, remember the old adage about the two happiest days in a boat owners life: the day he buys it and the day he sells it.

  54. happyfeet says:

    lakes have amoebas what hunger for tasty brains

    google it

  55. McGehee says:

    He sat staring at his computer monitor, a bleak expression of surrender on his face. It had seemed to be the perfect story when he constructed it in his mind over the past several weeks. The characters were so real in his imagination that they all but demanded to be given life on the page. The plot was pure genius and would surely rewrite the rules of American literature. So at last he made himself make time to sit down and write it.

    And so he found himself seated at his computer, paralyzed; the story was fully realized in his mind with a gripping buildup to an edge-of-your-seat climax and a satisfying ending.

    What it did not have, he had discovered to his horror, was a beginning.

    Finally he gave in. He shut off the computer, got up from the desk, and walked into his bedroom, where he kept his guns and ammunition.

  56. bh says:

    Over the summer of 93 I know one boat owner who had many, many happy days in between.

    Guy I roomed with my freshmen summer was making good money doing heating and AC work for his brother/owner. Bought himself a boat. Here is a fundamental truth of life. 19-22 yr old girls will always decide they’d rather go out on the lake than anything else. They’ll quit jobs to go out on the lake.

    $4 for gas, maybe $15 for beer and ice and any three or four girls in town are yours for the day. The singer/songwriter types call these “glory days”.

    Hmmm… maybe I can justify a boat.

  57. leigh says:

    Acanthamoeba like to swim into your eyes and make you slowly gow blind as it grows inside your eyeball and eats your optic nerve. Never ever never wear contact lenses in a lake.

    We have bite-y alligator gar fish in our lake and giant catfish. Also water moccasins.

  58. leigh says:

    You’re a single successful guy, bh. Get ye a boat. At least a 20 footer. Boat + beer = babes in bikinis. Win win.

  59. happyfeet says:

    I thought 1993 didn’t count

    wtf?

  60. bh says:

    It’d probably be cheaper to find another kick-ass roommate.

  61. motionview says:

    I don’t care if they can toss off a well-crafted short story, any more than I care if an adman can solve a set of simultaneous linear eqations. I’d like the STEMmer’s to have some understanding of the broad sweep of human history, some non-technical education that isn’t a high-falutin’ version of Avatar. With extra tribalization.

  62. sdferr says:

    Stephen Strasburg ain’t looking so hot today, at least not in the box score. 3 zip deficit in the top of the second, men on second and third, two outs and he’s already thrown 48 pitches (while on a nominal 100 pitch count before the manager pulls him to save his arm). Make that 49: he got his third out on a swinging strikeout. Still, not so hot.

  63. happyfeet says:

    that was a suspiciously math-like comment what you just made Mr. sdferr, what with all the numbers and all

  64. BT says:

    Orioles are surprisingly strong this year.

  65. leigh says:

    You want your STEMers to be well-rounded, Gene. Same here. I’m all for merit-based college admissions rather than the anyone goes mentality we have today.

  66. leigh says:

    bh, boats are expensive if you don’t know how to do your own mainenance. Plus there are a lot of few: dock fees, boat tags, trailer tags, fishing licenses—all to be renewed annually. Wisco might make you invest in a safe boating course, too. (A good idea anyway.) Plus life jackets, skis, a canopy unless you want to grill like a sausage, et cetera.

    The kick-ass roommate is looking like a better deal. Do they do boat timeshares?

  67. leigh says:

    few = fees. Stupid fat fingers.

  68. sdferr says:

    I still don’t know — with these far eastern fellers — whether to call such a one Mr. Wei-yen, or Mr. Chen, cause it seems more often than not his daddy’s name is the first one, and his “Joe” or “Mikey” name is the second one. Anyhow, taking a chance at it, go get ’em Mr. Wei-yen! Eat ’em up with baffleballs!

  69. sdferr says:

    Mr. Wei-yin decided to feed them dinner instead. And damned if they weren’t hungry.

  70. LBascom says:

    Boats are a hole in the water you pour money in. -Pawn Stars

  71. leigh says:

    Pawn Stars steals from my grandpa who said that in the fifties.

  72. cranky-d says:

    IT majors don’t have the fucking TIME to be well-rounded. Take a look at the curriculum sometime. By the time you’re finished taking the required classes you’re lucky to finish in five years unless you are a pure grind that has absolutely no life.

    But whatever.

  73. McGehee says:

    “Hey, did you hear? The cardinals have chosen a new pope.”

    “Holy smoke!”

  74. Darleen says:

    Short story writing skills should be taught in highschool. You shouldn’t have to go to college to learn communication skills.

    You know the best writing class I had in high school? One where sentence structure, spelling, grammar and punctuation were required to be mastered at a high level?

    Shorthand class.

    Taking dictation with phonetic symbols in one long continuous block, then sit at a typewriter and mold it back into a coherent business letter with proper style, paragraphs, etc. – correcting the errors the person who gave the dictation made.

    And mastering the formality of a clear, concise business letter.

    That class immensely improved my essay skills.

  75. leigh says:

    My mom and one of my SILs are whizzes with shorthand and typing, too. I wish I was, but I decided to scorn secretarial work instead. Stupid me. It would have made note taking so much easier.

  76. McGehee says:

    My note-taking in class started out as a way to have reference material about the lectures that I could consult later for test prep. It evolved into a way to commit the lecture material to long-term memory so I wouldn’t need the notes. Which was good, because half the time I couldn’t make heads nor tails out of the codes, abbreviations and outright cyphers I’d taken to using for some of it.

    In later years in college I took almost no notes at all, and my grades were better than they’d been when I was actually using notes.

    Of course, by then the lectures were drawn almost entirely from the texts anyway, so…

  77. leigh says:

    Sounds like what I ended up doing, except in French class in which I really had to bust ass. I’ve been blessed with an excellent memory and that has served me well.

    OT: So, Robert Kennedy, Jr’s estranged wife, Mary, hangs herself (may she rest in peace) and she not only gets a funeral Mass but is buried in a Catholic cemetery? What the heck?

  78. geoffb says:

    OT:

    OWSies practicing for the summer both their attack and propaganda skills?

  79. geoffb says:

    The singer/songwriter types call these “glory days

  80. bh says:

    Damn straight.

  81. sdferr says:

    Free Bird!

  82. leigh says:

    White Supremecists? So the OWSers don’t like their views and decide to attack them with hammers and crowbars? In a restuarant? Then kick the crap out of the owner when he tackles one of them? Then flee in cars? No one even gets a tag number?

    As Dr. Lee said in at the OJ trial, “Something wrong here.”

  83. Just curious, how many of the moms are named Julia?

  84. motionview says:

    This is more like what passes for a basic college edumacation these days (though the example is from high school).

  85. cranky-d says:

    OWSies practicing for the summer both their attack and propaganda skills?

    Many of the OWSies are going to die of lead poisoning if they don’t shape up. They will not get away with that behavior forever.

  86. newrouter says:

    i’m enjoying watching the cops beat the owsies with batons. hit ’em again harder harder.

  87. bh says:

    This is more like what passes for a basic college edumacation these days (though the example is from high school).

    I’d like to ask that teacher how many nickels are in three and a half dollars.

  88. leigh says:

    Robin Gibb has died. RIP, Robin.

  89. RichardCranium says:

    writing a decent short story is a LOT fucking harder than any stemmy stemmy stem business i think

    Yeah, except one of ’em allows worthless piece of shit like yourself to survive on this planet.

    It isn’t the “decent short story”.

  90. McGehee says:

    My thing here was meant to illustrate one of my own biggest frustrations with fiction writing. For some reasons the stories I start to write that start out well, bog down. But at least they get started.

  91. cranky-d says:

    Well, writing is harder than plasma physics, you know, so there’s that.

  92. Car in says:

    Women are the root of this problem, not men. I’m just saying.

    uh … no.

  93. Darleen says:

    what Car said

    This guy and those women have been taught by the state that they are not responsible for their actions. The state has undermined and replaced a societal expectation of monogamy. Certainly sex happens and babies result, historically “oopsies” happen. But it wasn’t something celebrated or tolerated to the extent that this male and these females have given up their duty and responsibility as human beings.

  94. Dale Price says:

    So, Robert Kennedy, Jr’s estranged wife, Mary, hangs herself (may she rest in peace) and she not only gets a funeral Mass but is buried in a Catholic cemetery? What the heck?

    At the risk of turning into “That Guy” on Catholic stuff…

    If it’s done right, a Catholic funeral is not supposed to be a canonisation ceremony hailing the deceased’s arrival into glory. It’s a ceremony expressing the hope of resurrection. Also, given how mentally-anguished your average suicide is, there is no presumption that she was acting with full knowledge and consent regarding her actions–hence, it can’t be assumed she died in a state of mortal sin.

    I remember reading a piece about someone who survived jumping off the Golden Gate. He said that he realized on the way down that his problems weren’t as awful as he thought, and he wished he hadn’t done it. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, that’s probably the way to go with suicides.

    I’m a lot more comfortable with someone like her getting full burial rites than some other prominent Catholics I could mention.

  95. Car in says:

    This guy and those women have been taught by the state that they are not responsible for their actions. The state has undermined and replaced a societal expectation of monogamy. Certainly sex happens and babies result, historically “oopsies” happen. But it wasn’t something celebrated or tolerated to the extent that this male and these females have given up their duty and responsibility as human beings.

    Yes. AND, the black (inner city) family has become SO broken, that while the women don’t appear to care with whom they procreate with (if the person will stay, or be a good role model, or … anything) the men seem to view it as some sign of their incredible virility. And they have absolutely NO tie to them, outside some sort of trophy value. COMPLETELY BROKEN.

    These “fathers” have no father-figures to guide them, to teach them what it is to be a man. Who started this system of fail? arguments can be made for it being the men or the women. But these men aren’t some sort of victim.

    They are actively participating in this ginormous clusterfuck of socio-economic fail.

  96. leigh says:

    Dale, one of my nephews commintted suicide and received full Catholic burial rites (he is interred with his grandmother) so I know it’s done. It didn’t used to be, but things have changed and for the better.

    I’m still not down with cremation, but perhaps I’ll evolve, like the prezzie.

  97. Pablo says:

    Who started this system of fail?

    LBJ. And so far, he was correct in saying “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

    It’s quite a neat trick to get a group of people cheering on their own destruction.

  98. Car in says:

    LBJ. And so far, he was correct in saying “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years”

    He may have started it – but i also blame the sexual revolution, AND certain black civil rights movements that rejected the paradigm of their white oppressors.

  99. leigh says:

    Darleen and Carin,

    The fear of the disintegration of the black family unit was expressed as far back as Reconstruction. True, families were sometimes broken up and sold seperately as slaves, but many families lived as traditional family units.

    The fear was that that the slaves, now freed, were illiterate and had been the beneficiaries of their masters’ care* (housing, food, medical treatment) and were unsuited to being tossed into a free society without a transitional period in which they learned to read and to handle their finances.

    Many freed slaves were of a mind that if they moved North, there would be jobs and that President Lincoln was personally going to reimburse them for their labors. As history has borne out, this has proved to be false. There were jobs, but prejudice still existed and their lives were not improved by leaving their homes of origin.

    None of this is to excuse the generations of spongers that the welfare society has bred, of course.

    Like any other group of people, there is going to be the cream that rises to the top: Justice Thomas, Ward Connerly, Walter Williams, ans Thomas Sowell for a few. The first female millionaire in the US was a black woman (whose name escapes me) who made her fortune selling haircare products around the turn of the last century.

    Unfortunately, as a group poor people and poor black people in particular are nearly feral today and, as you have both stated lack role models and stable home lives. The Grandmas can’t do everything as they did a generation ago—especially when the grandmas are 32.

    *Yes, we all know about the imaginary Kunta Kinte, so let’s not rehash that.

  100. Pablo says:

    LBJ funded it all. The full, flowing teat eliminated the consequences of bad behavior, at least short term. Without that, they wouldn’t have gone mainstream and demolished entire generations.

  101. Car in says:

    LBJ funded it all. The full, flowing teat eliminated the consequences of bad behavior, at least short term. Without that, they wouldn’t have gone mainstream and demolished entire generations.

    I get what you’re saying, but I’m not willing to absolve the willing participants in this endeavor.

    Because, I actually believe people can rise up. Once they break out of the victim mentality.

    And, I’m gonna go there – but the underclass are LAZY. Lazy. As the day is long.

  102. Pablo says:

    Of course the people themselves bear responsibility but the problem wouldn’t be what it is if they were also bearing the natural consequences of their behavior. You can afford to be lazy as long as there’s a teat to suck on. Take the teat away, and the motivation level will skyrocket.

  103. geoffb says:

    A place to start if a solution is what is wanted.

    The long downhill did start with LBJ and any group can be destroyed by the type of policies and incentives that our (and other) social welfare systems provide. There are numerous examples. Take a good look at modern day Scotland vs what it was prior to the rise of the UK’s welfare state after WWII for one.

  104. sdferr says:

    Will more and better sociology cure the problems the sociological outlook has created?

    Isn’t that akin to the current notion we’ll fix our fiscal problems with more of what created them, i.e., more centralized decision making and spending thereon?

  105. Dale Price says:

    Dale, one of my nephews commintted suicide and received full Catholic burial rites (he is interred with his grandmother) so I know it’s done. It didn’t used to be, but things have changed and for the better.

    It is the right thing to do.

    I’m not down with cremation either, but I can respect it. Just so long as you don’t scatter the ashes.

    I need a place to mourn.

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