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EVERY boy’s dream!!
Some of the commenters over at Wizbang are seriously unhinged. If I’d had a teacher like that when I was 14, I’d be remembering her fondly right this second.
A hundred years in prison? That’s about 12 percent of what Jeffrey Dahmer got. So: have sex with a horny teenage boy, or kill and eat one and a half people. The choice is yours…
Turing word, BTW, is “wife.” Who picks these things, anyway?
100 years in prison?? The only way she’d deserve that sentence is if they were holding her responsible for all her 14 year old male students who’ve been abusing themselves while thinking of her.
Sorry ladies, but no normal 14 year old boy would turn down a chance to get private lessons from her, and they’d all still remember it fondly when they’re old and gray. Ugly truth, but still truth.
She used a child for sex. And this is okay because…?
(I have two boys so I’m gonna be a killjoy.)
Freakin’ turing word is “natural”. Jeff hand-picks these.
Not saying it’s okay, Ana. Speaking as a former child, I would have regarded her as my personal Barbara Eden. Speaking as an alleged adult, she abused her position and deserves to be punished. But the sentence is ridiculous.
Parenthetically, I think someone would have to be seriously lost in the PC ozone to argue that this case is equivalent to a male teacher having sex with a 14-year-old girl.
My take on the spam buster, turing test, oh, a month ago, or so.
And I’m not going to torture myself looking at those pouty lips for another moment.
C’mon – when I was 14 I was yanking it to the Sears catalog. If a hot female teacher wanted to use me as a boy toy I would have been more than willing and my dad would have been proud – plus he would have saved money on the hooker…
Yes, it’s a double standard. If this were a male teacher and a 14 year old female student – we’d all be calling for his head. But it’s not.
What teenage boy would say ‘no’ to sex that he didn’t have to work for?
Wow…why are all these “hot for” teachers going after their students? There aren’t enough willing guys of age? It makes no sense.
I still remember Miss Axe…the only hot teacher I ever had. 100 years is ludicrous. I understand that you can’t legally “cosent” at that age, but they should take into account whether you actuallty consented. And a 27 year old woman and 14 year old boy is much less a crime than the reverse.
Turing word: Wish. Jeff must pick them.
Hah! My turing word was values. Now, I’m suspicious.
“And a 27 year old woman and 14 year old boy is much less a crime than the reverse.”
I would’ve agreed with that when I was 14, but now that I’m 27…
I wasn’t going to comment but my Turing word is “three”.
I hear Mary Kay Laturno is out now. Hmm…
And what if 9 months later she made you the proud 14 y/o father of twins? Would you be ready for that? Would you support your kids emotionally and financially? Meaning, you would give up a college education, get a job, move in with her? Or would you leave your kids to feign for themselves with a very screwed up woman who would undoubtedly do their entire 7th grade class?
I’d put a latex helmet on my wee soldier.
You would, Jeff. But would a typical-14 year old boy?
But then there’s nothing typical about a 14-year boy old knockin’ boots with a 27-year old woman. At least not when I was 14. Maybe I led a sheltered life.
And if he lost his latex helmet, would not your brave wee soldier proceed into battle anyway?
I have a friend who had a kid at 15 and went on to make over $500 million AND win “The Real Gilligan’s Island.”
Not sure about the causality, but it’s all I have to go on.
“I’d love to climb that rope again for you Ms Turner, if only your fiance weren’t hanging by the neck from it.”
While the teacher is a 14-y/o boy’s wet dream, we’re not talking about a quickie in the locker room. This went on for a couple months at least, and she’s got 15 counts against her.
While we (guys at least) remember what it was like to have a perma-boner at 14, you sort of forget how vulnerable you are at that age, mostly because you’re a complete moron with a perpetual hard-on. I knew a guy that this actually happened to (when he was 14; she was a teacher), and he said it was the worst thing that ever happened to him.
The fact she IS such a hottie, and could get laid by just about any guy she wanted, but chose to target a 14 y/o, tells you volumes about her. What she did was abusive.
I hope she enjoyed it (maybe he did, too), because she is going away for a long, long time – which is as it should be.
This is the third case I have heard about recently: Ms. Turner and teachers in Florida and Orange Co., Calif.
Much less a crime than the reverse? That’s crazy talk. There are plenty of 14-year-old girls out there in their “right minds” who would be happy to make it with a hot 27 year old with a clue and some staying power. Why deny them their fun? If the child is eager and everyone is protected then we’re in busines, right?
My suspicion is that she was interested in sex with all of the goodies that a human being brings, but without an adult relationship which would tax her emotionally.
Ah yes, my lovely State of Tennessee- if we’re not butchering defenseless animals our gym teachers are screwing the basketball teams.
How come Tennessee never makes the national news for things like “Vanderbilt researcher turning the corners on Aids research” or “African American Woman named Athletic Director for Division 1 School”?
Nope, puppie killers or perverts. No respect I tellsya…
I knew this guy who married his high school teacher when he was 15 years old. There was a 28 year age difference and she had a son older than him. When he reached age 19, she dumped him for a 17 y/o student. To add insult to injury, she became head of the psych department and I had to petition her to place out of this crappy mandatory psych class. The bitch said no. By that time she was 54 y/o and she looked it.
Like with all rape, it was about control. We all know she could have sex with any number of men her age (and obviously most men here)but a 14 yr old is easy to control emotionally and sexually.
I would tell a related interesting little story here, but yall would never let me forget it, so I wont.
That’s just great. You puritan Nazis just had to come marching through here, with your latex helmets, and your knockin’ boots, and completely ruin our little middle-aged fantasy, didn’t you ? How many of these things do you think us old farts have left, anyway ?
You should be ashamed of yourselves !
Sorry Joe. I’ll take my moralizing elsewhere. Nah!
A sexual predator is a sexual predator–gender shouldn’t play into the discussion at all. She crossed the boundaries that exist in a teacher-student relationship. If your 14-year-old daughter and a male teacher were involved, I think the joking would be different…more along the lines of castrations and such. A 14-year-old boy is still forming his identity—what chance does he have to have a normal view of sexual relationships now? What does it do to a kid when a woman–who is supposed to be naturally more protective of children—steals his innocence? It’s sickening. Hope she enjoys jail.
C’mon Sparky – let’s hear it. Don’t leave us hangin’. We won’t give you a hard time about it.
turing word: “respect”
Once upon a time, being 14 didn’t somehow mystically render one incapable of sustaining the emotional impact of sleeping with someone over the age of 18.
If this guy had slept with the entire cheerleading squad, there’d be nothing wrong with it in the eyes of the law, even if some of the cases involved a lot of alcohol and regret afterwards. I’ll wager both parties went into this with their eyes a lot more open that the high school norm.
That, and I’m jealous. Lucky bastard.
Okay. What the hell is an apparently good looking 27 year old woman thinking when she goes after a 14-year old boy? I didn’t even see anything in 14 year old boys when I was 14… That ain’t right.
What if the 14 y/o was having sex with a 27 y/o male hottie gym teacher? Does that make it any different?
well, lets just say a friend of mine had a 17 yr old son who had a friend who had a big crush on her. At first she just thought it was amusing. Then the boy would tell her his sad story about his horrible life at home and get her to feeling sorry for him. To be nice she would listen and give advice. Then one evening he comes by all upset saying he had gotten thrown out of the house. By this time, because of certain things he had said, she had figured out that he was just using his sad life to be around her. But he did seem upset so she walked out front to talk to him and in the midst of his talking he grabs her and tries to kiss her!!! She freaks and pushes him away. She tells her son about it so he will stop hanging around him, and he did. But the boy kept calling! Finally one day he stopped by during the day and she decided to take a different tactic. She told him to come on in and they would have had it. She had changed her mind. “Lets go” she said. At first he said “sure!” and then…he looked confused. She asked what was wrong? He suddenly seemed not be as eager. He looked sad and unsure. This kid was looking for a mom (his was horrible) and confusing that with feelings for an older woman. Oh I am sure she could have “seduced” him if she had tried (or wanted to, which she did not!). But it was clear that young boys are still vulnerable and toying with their affections and using them is just as wrong if it were a man and a young girl.
AS A CITIZEN JOURNALIST, I DEMAND TO KNOW HOW THIS POST FITS INTO OUR “ALL EASON JORDAN, ALL THE TIME” PARADIGM.
Me at 14: “Oh, HELL yeah!”
Me the adult: “Get the hell away from my son. What’s wrong with you? Shall we talk about it over dinner and drinks at my place?”
I’ll go along with beck–the kid is young, but he’s not a toddler, for crying out loud. And the teacher is a jerk, not a complete monster.
This is a case of statutory rape, so called because the issue is the statutory age of consent. (I’m assuming that the boy consented; as SteveL noted, that ought to be a factor.) Conflating this with non-statutory rape, which usually involves coercion, assault, and violence or the threat thereof, is pretty simplistic.
And I still think 100 years is a really dumb sentence.
Sparks – Good story. It’s not yet Valentines Day, but just know I have a heart on for you.
I have to agree with Allah … I’m outraged that Jeff is posting about something other than Eason Jordon (or Ward Churchill.)
Jwebb, well, that is just so appropriate for this thread since you consider me YOUR MOM!!!!!!!
It isn’t Jeff’s doing. It’s his wee soldier causing all the trouble.
Sex, sex, sex! How come you all weren’t contributing to the “Random Alan Colmes Thought” thread, hmmmmm? Now that’s comedy!
BTW, interesting how, with maybe a couple of exceptions, the hardasses and the people who think the two gender situations are equivalent are women.
I lost my virginity at 16 to a 27-yr-old woman, and look at me, I’m perfectly norm….well, ok, maybe not, but if I could have had her at 14 I sure wouldn’t have said no. The four years from 12 to 16 were the worst four years of my life.
And I thought the last one was semi-hot, but WOW. I thought teachers were supposed to be spinsters or “bachelors.”
Allah,
Nobody’s sure whether you are a citizen journalist anymore. (Praise be to Allah and all that.)
Please don’t start a fatwah on me.
I’m not. And I never was one to begin with.
But it was clear that young boys are still vulnerable and toying with their affections and using them is just as wrong if it were a man and a young girl.
Nice to speak in vague generalities based on one story – about a 17 year-old. Most 17 year-old boys that I knew would hump anything that moved and give it nary a thought.
As per usual, you have your head up your naive, insulated, candy-coated with sprinkles and frosting on top rear-end.
whoa!!!!! Bill breaks bad on Sparkle!
Hmm, coulda swore you were. Oh, well, at least we have our Jeff.
Sparkle breaks bad on me repeatedly. And I think that she’s an airhead, in addition to being someone dumb enough to take swipes at me.
So this shouldn’t be much of a surprise.
That’s a flat-out lie, Bill. Most 17 yr. old boys don’t think of anything but humping. No, not butt-humping … well, I think I made my point.
Bill, take a walk, buddy… go take some photos of moonbats or something.
(I’ll admit I haven’t seen RWS’s “swipes” at you.)
Turing word: “ “ (Stinkin’ registration. Ruins all the fun.)
I haven’t been around that long, but I’ve been around a while both here and at your site. What have I missed?
insomni –
Get used to it. Her payback is only beginning.
Good plan, Bill, there are too many adults in the comments here. I trust you to fix that.
Will someone tell me what the fuck is going on here?
Random acts of blogolence. Felt kind of like an Austin moment. Right here.
Well thanks, Ana, but I was thinking more in terms of understandable English.
CraigC, I called Bill touchy once and now he doesn’t like me… boo hoo.
Oh good Lord Bill, repeated swipes? And now another threat? Why don’t you grow up?
Seems like there’s more to it than that. And you can call me Craig.
Oh, understandable English. Sorry. I don’t do that. Better not post at Bill’s. [Ducks and runs.]
Btw, Thanks insomni and Robin…..
Wow, this is like trying to solve a Wheel of Fortune puzzle. Actually, that’s a lot easier.
My wife is out of town, so I’m alone with my kid. Lots of diapers to change. Lots.
Just saying.
Craig, it is really silly and I apologized for calling him touchy. Bill can be childish and call me whatever he wishes. I won’t be participating.
Gotcha.
The gotcha was for Jeff, but thanks, Sparkle.
People! I think we all need to get back to what’s really important: dirty, deviant sex.
That’s not why I don’t like you. Besides the fact that you’re a stalker – a context that these people aren’t probably aware of – and a few other personal aversions, I don’t like you because you can’t seem to display the maturity that usually goes hand-in-hand with your advanced age, by tabling the snide comments. You know, going your own way, and letting me go mine. Live and let live.
Now Robin, I’d like your help here on the maturity angle, and I’m serious. Let’s say someone liked to throw out personal attacks on the blogs that you like to frequent. You know, screw with you, say you have no personality, suggest that you have no balls. You know, real mature, relevant stuff.
What exactly is the mature, effective response. Ignore it? Hit back? Stop reading or commenting on the blogs that you enjoy?
I’m all ears.
RWS: You called Bill touchy? Well, he’s proving your point. (And this from a fan of Bill’s moonbat coverage. Even sent him a fiver or two.)
Well, Bill, if you are looking for sympathy from me, I confess that what you describe happens to me all the time.
The hard part, Bill, is not looking like a stalker yourself. Can’t say I always succeed.
Didn’t you guys already have this fight ?
I’m invoking my veto powers – VETO, I say ! You’re ruining the deviant sex for the rest of us.
Bill: Yes, I’m butting into something that’s none of my business, but you’ve made it all of ours by dumping it here. Can you provide some links to back up these claims? Not that Jeff’s comment section is the place to do it.
*sigh* what are these personal attacks? What terrible things have I said about you? Jeff saying that for your anniversary he was going to get Peter Fonda inside you and I jokingly said “does that mean your giving him a personality? Good gift.” (hardly an “attack”)
I didn’t know you would read it. I never saw you here anymore. So, once again I am sorry. But at least I don’t send e-mails that say this…like you did to me….
If you would like to stir some
shit feud, you are barking up the wrong tree, because I will respond in
kind, and trust me – you won’t like it.
And this is all I’m going to say about it. You’re making way too much of this. I feel like I am in high school.
I promise not to refer to you again.
insmoni –
You don’t know the context. Let’s start: you are an idiot.
Now I don’t REALLY think that you’re an idiot, but what was your initial response when you read that? Were you ready to get annoyed? A little bit?
And if I were to leave a few comments over the next few days, describing your idiocy (and let’s assume this is in earnest terms), I’d be curious to see your reaction. You know, imagine some punk screwing with you.
Robin makes a very good point:
The hard part, Bill, is not looking like a stalker yourself. Can’t say I always succeed.
Which I guess is a good reason to roll over and ignore.
Bill from INDC – I like your site. Read and enjoy it daily. But I will not have you insult someone I think of as my mother, sir.
Unless you go ahead and do it anyway in which case what the fuck?
I revel in my sycophantasiac poseuredness.
Insomni, click joe’s link, that’s it. Decide for yourself.
Satchel just had a BIG poopie! I think from his turkey and garden vegetable dinner, but I suppose some of it is formula and some of it is cottage cheese.
I cleaned him and dried him and tickled his tummy…he’s so HAPPY now!
Damn. It just got hot in here. I’m going outside for a little fresh Martha.
OK, that’s it ! I’m telling Jeff !
I told them to stop, Jeff, and I even used my veto, but they just ignored me ! And now Webb’s sycophanting in the chaffy and … and I just … I just can’t take it any more !
Can’t we all just … lick the sprinkles and frosting off Sparkle’s rear-end ?
Good gift.†(hardly an “attack”)
And my quote from the e-mail (“shit feud”) –
Context – that “hardly an attack” and the e-mail took place after the third blog that you decided to stalk me on.
Specifically, in the swipe prior, you insinuated that I had a grave medical problem that I’d described in my comment that preceded yours. Pretty personal stuff. I believe you even apologized in an e-mail. Now you pretend that it never happened when it suits your argument. You’re manipulative.
This is childish, but you’ve got to learn to stay off my case. This certainly isn’t the first time that you’ve made this promise to ignore each other. This is the last time I’m going to tell you.
Insomni, click joe’s link, that’s it.
Your mother is dishonest or insane.
Me: I’m not doing any such thing with Sparky’s sprinkles.
Me: Aren’t you gone yet?
Me: I was walking out when that Satchel post knocked me on my ass laughing so I had to stay. I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.
Joe,
HELLO!
Oddly Enough! I had turkey wrap with a tossed green cottage cheese salad for dinner this evening.
So, I’m kinda with Satchel on this one.
Hello!
And please notice the name…
This is better than Springer on acid (peyote, whatever’s avante garde around here now) what with Jeff interjecting with the baby poo and Grinch and Joe lickin’ sprinkles off Sparkys rear. Can we set up one of those prison camp mud pits? A picture from Jesusland would make my joy complete. Huh?
Jeff – from your HELLO! post, I’m guessing you’re listening to Ward Churchill now on 850KOA Denver, right?
I don’t think you can swim in that thing.
Anyone else get the feeling the kids are play-acting?
Bill and Sparkle, I like you both. I’ll sit between you if that’ll make things better. But you both need to stay away from each other.
There are people I’ve got problems with that I wouldn’t be able to be civil to, or even incivil in a funny way. They and I can comment in the same threads and as long as they leave me alone I can leave them alone. If they address me, though, I still have the choice of responding or not.
As do you both. That’s your control.
USE IT.
‘Cause you’re both really getting on my nerves.
RWS, Joe, and Bill: Thanks for the context. I’d love to catch up on our own little Hatfield/McCoy fun-fest, but I have something on my calendar. Something involving blunt trauma to the head, I believe.
On a parting note, though, I did like this comment of Jeff’s in that aforementioned and infamous post.
Ana, you’ve taken my innocent suggestion (which fully respected Webb’s sensibilities toward his Mom), my heartfelt plea for a community project we can all get, uh, behind, and turned it into something cheap, something sleazy and tawdry.
I really admire that ability in a woman.
I’m here for you Joe.
McGehee – teach me, Ghandi.
Tried the ignore thing, it doesn’t suit my personality, especially when someone follows me around on my favorite blogs. So I’ll table the details of any personal vendetta and just freely and honestly express when I think RWS is being a twit. The downside is, this is often.
Is anyone listening to the SHIT on 850KOA?
“If the news were true you wouldn’t have been alowed to teach.”
Huh?
CHILDREN! I’m really disappointed in your behaviours.
TIME OUT!
GO TO YOUR ROOMS!
We’ll discuss this in the morning.
Now Joe I did my part. I thought you would enjoy that link.
Ana, did you see that guy on TV? His teeth were yellow…ewwwwww.
It’s all the shit that comes out of his mouth.
McGehee, You know I love you, but if you notice, I stopped responding at 7:45….
PAY ATTENTION!
I SAID GO TO YOUR ROOMS!
And I meant it!
I did, Sparkle. I was trying to keep it clean and wholesome, y’know, for the kids, but since Ana’s clearly blown that, I like the chocolate one – with the sprinkles, of course !
I’d take the blueberry one in a pinch, too.