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Here’s what’s “unprecedented”: a sitting President firing warning shots at the Supreme Court

So this is where we are as a country:  It’s now “judicial activism” to rule in accordance with the Constitution, while judicial restraint gets redefined as agreeing to rubber-stamp the legislative will of Democrat super majorities, even if what they rush into law is clearly unconstitutional — and creates subjects where free citizens with unalienable rights once existed.

So says our would-be tyrant, who views any rebuke to his claims to power as illegitimate (and likely racist, to boot).

Up is down. Black is white. Chico is The Man.

The constant and steady perversion of language and meaning has finally brought us to the surreal endpoint where a president stands before the public and pretends that a Supreme Court ruling is illegitimate if it looks to the Constitution for guidance on checks to federal power.  And the truth is? That’s exactly what they think, too — provided it isn’t a Republican measure SCOTUS is disallowing, of course.  What good is anti-foundationalism, after all, if you can’t use it to your advantage?

God help us.

 

 

198 Replies to “Here’s what’s “unprecedented”: a sitting President firing warning shots at the Supreme Court”

  1. dicentra says:

    Yeah, I dunno if we want the kind of help God usually provides to societies like ours:

    13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.

    14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. …

    20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! …

    23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! …

    25 Therefore is the anger of the Lord kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

    26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:

    27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:

    28 Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses’ hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:

    29 Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.

    30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

    —Isaiah 5

  2. Blitz says:

    31 (a, amended) And then verily did they rise up and realise they were were not only being oppressed by the tyrants and kings and taxmen but they outnumbered the foul vermin. also.

    Therefore, they went forth with their boomsticks and put an end tho the tyranny

    AMEN

  3. Blitz says:

    Wouldn’t be a true BLITZ post w/o typos…sheesh

  4. bh says:

    I’m a bit afraid of judicial activism here myself. To strike down the mandate without junking the whole mess would be extreme.

    Ya hear what I’m saying, Kennedy?

  5. Blitz says:

    bh, didn’t he say that in the arguments? I may be forgetting, but I believe he did.

  6. newrouter says:

    use only squid™ pitchforks when 31 aing

  7. Blitz says:

    I meant to point out the outright lies in his statement today, but lost count. did he err or ummm? because those are lies also.

    I forgot about the SQUID tm pitchforks nr, so sorry.

  8. bh says:

    Yep, Blitz.

  9. Blake says:

    Anyone else find this kind of crap from the president rather chilling?

    If the president is willing to say things like this, then I suspect the president will try some sort of EO end run to enact Obamacare.

  10. Blitz says:

    What do you think bh? Strike it all or just the mandate? I know where I’m leaning, but that would take months an thousands of ( mostly useless ) lives.

  11. Blitz says:

    Blake? FDR tried that and failed. President O’clusterfuck WILL NOT FAIL at it. He has the DOJ, Homeland Security, the TSA and who knows what else at his disposal.

    Any doubt he’d use it?

  12. Dale Price says:

    Given how he took cheap shots at the Supreme Court for the “Citizens United” decision as they sat before him during a State of the Union address, this is comparatively mild for him. Progress!

  13. sdferr says:

    Randall Thompson set those woes (Isaiah V. 8, 11, 12, 18, 20 – 22, and Isaiah XVII: 12) in the second movement of his 1936 choral a capella work The Peaceable Kingdom [commissioned by the League of Composers for the Harvard Glee Club and the Radcliffe Choral Society, no less!].

  14. Blitz says:

    I like this one,. suck at HTML ( and typing and life, but I digress ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csEzTwKemwY

  15. Blitz says:

    KK Sdferr ( he says as he’s removing a shot fuel injector)

  16. Blitz says:

    Which woes, whose woes? Who knows which way the woes blow?

  17. Blitz says:

    Ok, I see it now, sorry, but you lose me sometimes. I do try and follow, get aggravated by my non-knowledge of most things.

    I’m not unintelligent, just maybe not book learned.

  18. sdferr says:

    You might like Thompson’s 1943 Testament of Freedom better Blitz, where he sets language of Thomas Jefferson for men’s chorus and piano.

  19. Blitz says:

    Thank you Sdferr. Yes, THIS

    We have counted the cost of this contest, and find nothing so dreadful as voluntary slavery. Honor, justice, and humanity forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage upon them. Our cause is just. Our union is perfect. Our internal resources are great… We gratefully acknowledge, as signal instances of the Divine favor towards us, that His Providence would not permit us to be called into this severe controversy until we were grown up to our present strength, had been previously exercised in warlike operation, and possessed of the means of defending ourselves. With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverance, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves.

  20. Blake says:

    White House Insider is freaking me out these days. I remember an interview where the insider claimed the current administration would be perfectly happy to see the country burn to the ground rather than cede power.

  21. Blitz says:

    That’s about it Blake…We may be wrong, and I’d rather be wrong, but what if we’re right? What recourse do we have? That C/s/er is assembling a private army as we speak.

    I only own NO weapons, and may have a stockpile of like ZILCH for ammo? But theres always SQID brand pitchforks!!

  22. Blitz says:

    OOPS…SQUID…Sorry squid

  23. McGehee says:

    Here’s the problem with Kennedy: he suffers from multiple judicial-personality disorder. The Kennedy that hears the oral arguments often is not the Kennedy that votes on the outcome.

  24. StrangernFiction says:

    What is a “uninelected group of people?” 1:10 of the video.

  25. Blitz says:

    That’s what I’m afraid of McG…He can’t be trusted NOT to save his own ( Political? ) skin. And that I really don’t understand. He asked all the right questions, he was conesending to Varill, yet? I just don’t trust him to do the right thing.

  26. newrouter says:

    What is a “uninelected group of people?”

    via levin: epa, hhs, nrlb, etc

  27. BigBangHunter says:

    – Chocolate Jesus is acting exactly as he must to stay afloat. No real surprises, indeed, it would be wholly unexpected if he did not follow the Marxist script all the way through. He has a tiger by thetail, and he already see’s the odds of his getting eaten are gaining with each pasing day.

    – The real danger here is the rats around him that can jump ship safely when the whole pile of crap fails. They have every reason to push him into greater and greater treason.

    – I can imagine, knowing judges in general, never mind supreme court judges, the reactions they will have to Bumblefucks words from the throne.

    – One nice thing about egomaniacs; they will always end up destroying themselves by grandiose overreach.

  28. bh says:

    What do you think bh? Strike it all or just the mandate?

    Think the mandate is a goner but it’s a toss-up on the entirety. McG states my reservation succinctly.

    However, it really is a wounded beast without that mandate. How’s it work without the mandate? The CBO is gonna be forced to give the country a nasty case of sticker shock and then they’ll have to pass new legislation. Good luck with that.

  29. BigBangHunter says:

    – The bill, without the mandate, would be like social security without SSI payroll deduction enforcement.

    – Unworkable.

  30. newrouter says:

    However, it really is a wounded beast without that mandate.

    so wouldn’t make sense for scotus to go with judge vinson’s reasons

    “The final big win for the plaintiffs was on severability: Having found the individual mandate unconstitutional, Judge Vinson determined that the whole statute could not be severed and must fall with it. While he acknowledged that this is not the typical result of a finding of partial unconstitutionality, he correctly observed that “this is anything but the typical case.” While many incidental portions of the law — regulating tanning salons or requiring that rooms be set aside for nursing mothers — could surely function without the individual mandate, Judge Vinson determined that making a line-by-line judgment of which sections of the 2,700-page law could stand on their own would involve quintessentially legislative decisionmaking far more invasive than striking down the statute in its entirety and letting Congress rewrite its own work as it sees fit. ”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/258509/obamacare-declared-unconstitutional-highlights-judge-vinsons-ruling-carrie-severi

  31. B Moe says:

    “I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress,”

    Did Biden hack the teleprompter?

    What the fuck.

  32. bh says:

    Judge Vinson determined that making a line-by-line judgment of which sections of the 2,700-page law could stand on their own would involve quintessentially legislative decisionmaking far more invasive than striking down the statute in its entirety and letting Congress rewrite its own work as it sees fit.

    Jeff had a nice post on this but, yeah, that’s exactly right. Beyond being right — which won’t matter a bit to some of the Justices — Obamacare goes from being our nightmare to being their nightmare without it’s primary funding mechanism.

    They wanted to transition to single payer by killing the private market. This puts the issue directly in front of us. The CBO must score Obamacare without the currently uninsured (often making a very rational decision because there aren’t good options for young, healthy people) paying for the bulk of it. That gets wrapped up into one giant dollar amount and it’ll require an up or down vote in the legislature.

    This turns the water too hot, too fast. The frog will complain.

  33. McGehee says:

    Judge Vinson will never get invited to allt he right cocktail parties with that kind of reasoning. Why, how is a judge supposed to retain jurisdiction over, say, an entire school district for multiple decades if he’s too wimpy to take on the job of legislating from the bench?

  34. sdferr says:

    We hear suggested that Obama is attempting to influence the final decision of the Court by taking these pot shots. I’m not buying he’s that stupid. He’s plenty stupid, but not that stupid.

    I think this can only be aimed at the people generally, on the theory that Obama thinks he knows how dumb the people are (they elected him, after all!) and that influencing the people on this question now may have some salutary effect in the elections come Nov.

    What he’s doing inside the Court is firming the opinion there that he doesn’t have a clue — not news to the Justices, I think — and possibly, firming the opposition to this dreadfully miswritten law.

  35. bh says:

    That’s a hard thing to suss out, sdferr. Hard to get into his (phrenologically speaking) misshapen head.

    What a strange place to try and till the soil. In 2010 he raised a great crop of self-injury. So he’s replanting in the hopes of what exactly?

    Not that I doubt your interpretation. I share it. It’s still just, well, really stupid.

    I remember awhile back when I was telling nishi that there is no way in hell comprehensive immigration reform was going to play in the current economic environment and she just had so much garbage in her head that she could only made her nishi noises. It’s the same thing here. Obama is making his Obama noises.

  36. bh says:

    she could only make her nishi noises

  37. newrouter says:

    I’m not buying he’s that stupid.

    yea ’cause they voted on it friday.

  38. sdferr says:

    If we were to attempt to get into the head of a Ginsberg or Breyer, instead of Obama, simply on the grounds that these two among the other leftists on the Court have been there long enough to know and more or less understand the minds of such as Scalia, Thomas and so on, what would these two left governing Justices be expected to tell Obama about his efforts to influence the Conservative members (and we can even expect word does filter through, though possibly indirectly, as opposed from the very mouths of Ginsberg and Breyer to Obama’s ears)?

    My sense is: no way, Barry boy, no way no how.

  39. bh says:

    I think I’m ignorant of something here.

    Pablo mentioned an initial vote in another thread that Kagan might have relayed to the administration and you’re mentioning a vote (last?) Friday, newrouter.

    I’m not following this closely enough. Little help?

  40. newrouter says:

    ot oh my the 72 virgins got a timeout

    Another reader reports that he was able to make a donation to the 2012 Obama campaign as Usama bin Laden (Address: “6 feetunder Drive, Islamabad, DC”) without any credit card verification. He writes: “The irony is that when I tried to make a contribution for $1, I received an error that the donation must be at least $2.” Our reader received an email from the Obama campaign thanking Usama for the contribution. He has forwarded us screen shots of the transaction, including the one below. I didn’t quite catch Mr. bin Laden’s occupation (gravemaker) in the screenshot, but you get the idea.

    link

  41. sdferr says:

    I think Pablo’s mentioned conjecture has merit, but that without any evidence at all so far as I know. The vote last Friday is a straw-vote held in private conference of the Justices alone, for purposes of apportioning out the opinion writing. It isn’t binding, but generally will reflect the end result.

  42. newrouter says:

    you’re mentioning a vote (last?) Friday,

    SCOTUS could decide fate of health care law Friday

  43. sdferr says:

    To fill that out a bit bh, the Justices hold their private conference, then return to chambers and fill in their slaves clerks on the outcome. The results are usually kept in strict confidence. But who knows what or who let’s slip.

  44. bh says:

    […]what would these two left governing Justices be expected to tell Obama about his efforts to influence the Conservative members[…]

    We’re really just talking about Kennedy though, aren’t we? To be perfectly frank, I’m not a court watcher. I’m doing a minimum here out of real actual interest in the outcome but I have a fairly superficial view of most the court to work with.

    Is this not about Kennedy and Kennedy alone?

  45. bh says:

    Thanks, guys.

  46. Ernst Schreiber says:

    They’ve voted. The opinion writing has begun. Kagan letting Obama in on the vote is idle gossip.

  47. sdferr says:

    So we’re told, but I don’t know whether to trust the conventional wisdom about Kennedy one way or the other. But yeah, I mean him too in the confines of “and so on”. He’s his own man, I guess. All the worse for Obama though, I’d think.

  48. newrouter says:

    so what do the other 7 justices think of this leak?

  49. newrouter says:

    i mean the “wow grrl” kinda signaled her viewpoint.

  50. leigh says:

    Kagan letting Obama in on the vote is idle gossip.

    I agree. Isn’t there a judicial confidentiality that the Justices are sworn to? Or is that wishful thinking? I’d hope that weighty matters that make it all the way to the SCOTUS are held in as much confidence as an attorney-client priviledge.

    Leaks or no leaks, Obama is just stirring the pot and showing how stupid he is about the law, and constitutional law, at that.

  51. royced57 says:

    Amazing how quickly Progressives become conservatives. Having the Supreme Court overturn a 2 year old piece of legislation is like turning against the Code of Hammurabi, Magna Carta or… dare I say it, the Ten Commandments.

    God, we’re funny, freakin’ monkeys.

  52. McGehee says:

    Leaks or no leaks, Obama is just stirring the pot and showing how stupid he is about the law, and constitutional law, at that.

    Not to mention politics. SCOTUS is the only branch of federal government with a non-negative approval rating. Military excepted, of course.

  53. leigh says:

    I’d love to been able to read the thought bubbles over Harper’s and Calderon’s heads while Obumbles was blathering along forfuckingever about something that is an internal US issue and had nothing to do with the reporterette’s questions.

    OT, sorta: Did Harper fire a shot across the bow about the Keystone Pipeline? I swore the Chinese were on the other line.

  54. Mr. W says:

    Ze Party is currently spending well over 100 billion fake Chinese dollars per year to implement Barack’s 2,700 page homage to CastroCare.

    A bureaucratic machine of that size and complexity takes time and a whole lot of courage to bring down, and, as you’ve probably noticed, we are short of both here in DC these days.

    All nine justices can write the most scathing opinions ever put to paper, strike down the whole thing or just the mandate, and come the next day, Big Sis’ will just go down to HHS and continue as if nothing of any real importance has happened. And she’ll be right.

    Bet on it.

  55. newrouter says:

    Big Sis’ will just go down to HHS and continue as if nothing of any real importance has happened. And she’ll be right.

    and if large segments of society do not comply?

  56. Pablo says:

    so what do the other 7 justices think of this leak?

    We don’t and never will know if there was one. It is, as I noted, simply conjecture that makes sense. I’d be more interested in what the other 8 justices think about Kagan not recusing on this.

  57. Pablo says:

    Sebelius can mandate all she likes. But when insurance companies and others simply ignore her, that will be that. At least until Darrell Issa gets fired up.

  58. leigh says:

    Pablo, I was wondering if there could/would be any discussion about that in the written decision or will have to wait for the biographies to come out in 20 years?

  59. cranky-d says:

    A president ignoring the findings of the Supreme Court is not unprecedented.

    I wonder how it will play out.

  60. newrouter says:

    Obama was not Valerie Jarrett’s only project. She saw to the appointment of Van Jones as White House “green jobs” czar, noting that “we’ve been watching him…for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland.” (That activity included an anti-American rally on Sep. 12, 2001.) Her authority in the White House is almost unchallenged, and on visits to Chicago, local Democratic judges, officials and activists flock to see her and curry influence.

    Jarrett attended the Supreme Court last week as it heard arguments on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare. Her presence as the president’s “eyes and ears” was noted by Breitbart.com’s Ken Klukowski. Jarrett had also led the administration’s media charge in advance of the Supreme Court arguments, arguing that Obamacare is necessary because it protects women’s health in particular, shaping the case to fit Democrats’ narrative of a Republican “war on women.”

    As more moderate, pragmatic voices have abandoned the White House to attend to the actual business of governing–Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel being only one of many defectors–Jarrett has remained and her influence has grown.

    Jarrett endorses the idea that Obama is still a “community organizer” in the White House, and the administration’s Alinksyite tactics of race and class division bear her fingerprints as much as his own.

    link

  61. Mr. W says:

    The Feds did just place an order for 480,000,000 .40 caliber bullets.

    I’m thinking that would be just enough to take care of a large segment of the population, newrouter.

  62. leigh says:

    What sort of a firearm uses .40 caliber cartridges? Sounds like an elephant gun.

  63. Pablo says:

    leigh, it most certainly will not be in the decision. And if it did happen, the rest of the Justices likely don’t know it any more than we do. It’s not the sort of thing she’d be apt to share with them.

  64. leigh says:

    That’s what I figured. Thanks Pablo.

  65. Mr. W says:

    I stand by my oft-repeated contention that a Reichstag will burn before November. You will note that Barry has been throwing lit matches and gasoline in a lot of different directions lately.

    Eventually, with all that carefully dried societal brush out there, something is going to catch fire.

    One must never let a good fascist bonfire go to waste.

  66. bh says:

    Call me crazy but I have a feeling that the entire law being struck down will make it sorta hard to pretend the entire law was struck down.

  67. Pablo says:

    I’m thinking that would be just enough to take care of a large segment of the population, newrouter.

    The sheep and the base, maybe. But… That’s not a war he can win.

    leigh, .40 is smaller than .45 which is extremely common. It ain’t that big. I ran through 100 rds of that yesterday.

    Stockpiles of ammo are fine, but without the people willing to fire them, they’re unimpressive.

  68. leigh says:

    They’ve already suffererd major blowback on the attack on the Catholic Church, Mr. W. Cardinal Dolan is a Christian soldier, not a dove.

    I live out in the hinterlands and the hatred of the federal government is palpable. If they try anything untoward, they’ll get it back in spades.

    And, I denounce myself so JD won’t have to do it for me.

  69. Swen says:

    Blitz says April 2, 2012 at 4:15 pm
    — snip —
    I’m not unintelligent, just maybe not book learned.

    Don’t worry about that Blitz. Some of the smartest people I know never graduated from high school and a goodly number of the stupidest people I know have PhDs.

  70. Mr. W says:

    I’m guessing DHS wants to secure the border… Hah! Who am I kidding?

    I just Googled it and below was the first hit… Only 450 million, not 480. Sorry for the inaccuracy.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-homeland-security-buying-450-million-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/

  71. newrouter says:

    The Feds did just place an order for 480,000,000 .40 caliber bullets.
    I’m thinking that would be just enough to take care of a large segment of the population, newrouter.

    post a link mr. welsh

  72. leigh says:

    .40 is smaller than .45 which is extremely common. It ain’t that big. I ran through 100 rds of that yesterday.

    Oh, okay. I had a brain glitch and was thinking mm not caliber. Big deal then. I have repeating rifles or I did until the tragic barn fire.

  73. bh says:

    Stupid fingers with their stupid typos.

    Okay, short and easy. Are you really contending Mr. W that the whole law being found unconstitutional wouldn’t matter?

    Couldn’t we at least consider that a minor positive?

  74. Pablo says:

    Mr. W, imagine there had been a new media/blogosphere crowdsourcing the Reichstag fire. Not gonna happen. He going to run on how unfair America is and how Romney just doesn’t understand it.

  75. Pablo says:

    They’ve already suffererd major blowback on the attack on the Catholic Church, Mr. W. Cardinal Dolan is a Christian soldier, not a dove.

    I still can’t help wondering just how Catholic Anthony Kennedy is.

  76. leigh says:

    As do I, Pablo.

    All five of them “activist” judges are Catholics. Let’s hope Kennedy was brought up with a Baltimore Cathecism in his bookbag at parochial school and has a prophetic dream that makes him do the right thing.

  77. bh says:

    I think I’m going to go with what I call the Beck measure.

    All ideas slightly less insane then Beck’s aren’t insane. All ideas slightly more insane are probably just insane.

    Obamacare being overturned will actually be a victory more crazy than Beck.

  78. sdferr says:

    The States have a say in the proceedings too, if I don’t miss my guess, so supposing the Court rules the whole thing unconstitutional — and even possibly if they simply toss the mandate — the States will simply sit on their hands and not act to waste more money implementing the cursed thing.

  79. leigh says:

    bh, not only are the brain lesions catching, so are the typos!

  80. bh says:

    My keyboard is haunted. Howsabout this for my last paragraph:

    Obamacare being overturned will actually be a victory more crazy than Beck.

  81. bh says:

    Test:

    Obamacare being overturned will actually be a victory more crazy than Beck.

  82. Mr. W says:

    It’s funny, Leigh, my sister the UVA Communist, is blissfully unaware of the impending demise of her beloved Party.

    At Thanksgiving, she described Botoxed and dimwitted Nancy Pelosi as an example of what a ‘Alpha Female’ should be. I was so blown away by the sheer assininity of her alternate Washington DC worldview that all I could do was sit and stare ate her with my mouth agape.

    The Democrats in DC, like my poor sister, are so completely disconnected from reality that you begin to suspect that they are suffering from some collective (!) form of madness.

  83. sdferr says:

    Pork: the other white meat.

    States: the other sovereigns.

  84. bh says:

    Fuck me. I was using a less than and greater than sign and it was like an html tag. Okay, with words rather than symbols:

    “Obamacare being overturned will actually be a victory” is less crazy than Beck. “Bankers are stealing your children’s teeth while you sleep” is more crazy than Beck.

  85. Pablo says:

    Beck isn’t more than just a little crazy. He’s ahead of the curve via paying attention is all. Oh, looky here! There’s no way that thing that just happened could happen!

  86. leigh says:

    Mr. W, they should all take an educational trip to friendly Commie countries in SA or the Killing Fields in Cambodia.

    I know, that won’t work, either. My old hippie/commie friends in NorCal still believe in peace, love and understanding are the way to sooth the savage jihadi.

  87. Mr. W says:

    Did the blowback from the Catholic church change the contraceptive regulation’s language or intent?

    Nope,

    They don’t care what you think.

  88. JD says:

    Did you pay your bet yet?

  89. Pablo says:

    They don’t care what you think.

    Yeah, and? You think that’s the end of it? Not by a long shot.

    The Catholic Church has been at this game far longer than the progressives. They’ve got some penance to do, but I wouldn’t count them out. Whose base do you think is bigger? Obama’s or Benedict’s?

  90. leigh says:

    Did the blowback from the Catholic church change the contraceptive regulation’s language or intent?

    There IS no language in the ACA regarding cantraception, Mr. W. It was all a bunchof bald-faced lies from the gitty-up.

  91. leigh says:

    (cursed keyboard!)

  92. newrouter says:

    At Thanksgiving, she described Botoxed and dimwitted Nancy Pelosi as an example of what a ‘Alpha Female’ should be. I was so blown away by the sheer assininity of her alternate Washington DC worldview that all I could do was sit and stare ate her with my mouth agape.

    i will not comply. especially with idiots who hate guns.

  93. sdferr says:

    The language Mr W is referring to (and I think he’s correct in this) is in the Federal Register. The question is, should the law be struck down, who will obey that language then?

  94. palaeomerus says:

    How’s it unprecedented? He plainly bitched the Supreme Court out at one of his first state of the union addresses over the “Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission”. He thought they acted stupidly. That was before 2010 though and the “shellacking/tantrum”
    .

  95. Jeff G. says:

    It’s not. I was just playing on Obama’s pronouncement of “unprecedented” in reference to that which has also happened before: SCOTUS declaring unconstitutional some law.

  96. Mr. W says:

    I did note in my comment that Beck just happened to be the first one that came up. I don’t subscribe to his newsletter or anything like that.

    In honor of newrouter’s rapier wit, so in evidence at 7:44 pm, I am considering changing my name permanently to ‘Mr. Welsh’.

    I believe that the change may help to keep me humble in ways that my rugged good-looks and athletic frame do not. Maybe there’s a chance that my new-found humility will even produce a halo-like glow around my comments, thus allowing everyone on PW, and especially newrouter, to bask in the warm glow of my selfless nature.

    Hey, it could happen.

  97. Pablo says:

    The language Mr W is referring to (and I think he’s correct in this) is in the Federal Register.

    Right. His “accommodation” is bullshit as it exists only in a speech. Does anyone think for a minute that the Catholic Church will start buying contraceptives and sterilizations if SCOTUS has shot the law down?

    Mr. W, I lost and paid my Scott Brown bet. Wanna go again?

  98. JD says:

    Denounced. Denounced and condemned.

  99. palaeomerus says:

    Ah. I see. I don’t think I’ve seen a president try to bull-dog the Supreme Court quite so much in my lifetime. I hear that FDR threw some rocks at them and threatened to try and pack the court with sympathetic cronies by just adding justices until the scale tipped in his favor.

  100. newrouter says:

    , thus allowing everyone on PW, and especially newrouter,

    mr welsh have paid off you bets yet git

  101. JD says:

    Wouldn’t it be interesting to get the phone and email records from the SC staff and the White House?

  102. Mr. W says:

    A) On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.

    B) “Strike it down, and ObamaCare will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine” -Obama Won Kenyabi

    C) At 2,700 pages… whatever they want to be in there is in there. Catholic hospitals being forced to do abortions? Yeah, it’s in there!

  103. Mr. W says:

    i thin yer keybrd is brkn newrutr

  104. JD says:

    There was, at least, $225 on the table, Mr W. Not even counting the odds.

  105. newrouter says:

    i thin yer keybrd is brkn newrutr

    you be uninteresting troll mr w.

  106. leigh says:

    It doesn’t matter. If collective Catholic diocese and their bishops, hospitals and chartible trusts (who are generally all sef-insured) say “Make us” what are they going to do? They being the Federal goon squad. Kick down doors and snatch sickly infants from the Sisters tending them at the Children’s Hospitals?

    Think of the photo opportunities. Catholics will even have Baptists on their side.

  107. newrouter says:

    mr.w comes on like “hey shake my weiney” 2 years ago and now want’s what: “oh my i be ulsterdude of the beltway” : go away harvard/proggtard trained troll.

  108. newrouter says:

    Catholics will even have Baptists on their side.

    Why Baptists stand with Catholics on birth control mandate

  109. Mr. W says:

    That’s it? I must say that $225 seems awfully light considering the aggregation involved due to the number of times that I offered the bet.

    Not to mention the 13% inflation that has occured in the intervening year and a half due to Ben Bernanke’s insane ‘Quantitative Easing’ rounds.

    I said last night that I was going to send Jeff some amount of money to appease the spirits of the intertubes, and maybe my Second Chakra.

    Was that offer not enough to appease you, JD?

  110. Mr. W says:

    Harvard, newrouter? Harvard?

    Sir, I swear you have cut me to the quick!

    Many an insult from you have I let stand, but with that single comment, to put me in the company of men like Barry Soetoro and (shudder) Matt damon?

    It is too much! To quote you, “have paid off you bets yet git”!

  111. leigh says:

    @newrouter

    Heh. The Baptists still won’t say “hi” to us at the liquor store.

  112. newrouter says:

    “Mr. W says April 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Harvard, newrouter? Harvard? ”

    have you ever been ” a higher/ivy ‘educated’ loser”?

  113. newrouter says:

    Was that offer not enough to appease you, JD?

    shhhhh the dude’s got the baracky bullsh*t franchise

  114. JD says:

    Mr W – tis easier to admit that you are unwilling to pay the bets that you prattled on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about. Character reveals itself.

  115. palaeomerus says:

    All you people hating on the Wlesh, they have a word for your type!

    It’s PWLLRWDRrrlWwWWllydwllwdblllydrrld.

    I have no idea how its pronounced since Cymric was romanized rather poorly but you’re all a bunch of xenophobic stereotype believing ignorant PWLLRWDRrrlWwWWllydwllwdblllydrrld!

    Your cultural arrogance is almost continental!

    I suppose you guys hate on the #@#$ing bohunks too huh? They may be lazy and irresponsible but they are decent people with a beautiful culture and some of them can even keep a job and don’t have neck beards! Bigots!

  116. bh says:

    Beck isn’t more than just a little crazy. He’s ahead of the curve via paying attention is all.

    I was kinda trying to say such a thing in a rather clever and elegant manner but then it all went to shit.

  117. palaeomerus says:

    The above is kidding BTW, in case it needs to be said. I just never really hear anyone hating on the welsh or various former Czechoslovakian peoples. I crave variety in my hate.

  118. leigh says:

    But do they have neck tattoos? That’s a deal breaker.

  119. Danger says:

    You know what I’d like to know?

    I’d like to know what Mr. Reed thinks about all this.
    But I guess he’s to busy playing Superdad to check in with us.

    (if you’re reading this Rocketman: Get back in the fight Mr!)

  120. palaeomerus says:

    I found out that “PWLLRWDRrrlWwWWllydwllwdblllydrrld” is pronounced “poort”.

    So you are all poorts.

  121. sdferr says:

    Ok, I’s prematurely sad. 0:35 that’s just not enough time.

  122. palaeomerus says:

    Some of them may not actually have necks, just a parallel anatomical feature that serves a similar ‘head supportive’ function.

  123. newrouter says:

    is it welsh or welch?

  124. bh says:

    Think it’s Welsh, newrouter. Gotta be an English.

  125. bh says:

    English thing, that is.

    Welch would direct us towards wel- as a root and I don’t see it.

  126. palaeomerus says:

    ” is it welsh or welch?”

    I think it depends on wether you want a shepherds pie or some grape soda.

  127. palaeomerus says:

    whether,

    shepherd’s

  128. Jeff G. says:

    Speaking of the complete opposite of an oily bohunk, some additional info on multi-username troll / stalker / serial anti-semite and embarrassing leftist, Marc Elliott L’Hommedieu.

    He’s on AIM (or was) at ELFRadio2. Unfortunately, I can’t get AIM to work on my old Mac, so I can’t foist my Jewness into his chat space. But maybe some of you who have AIM can hit him up with some kindly pw wishes. His emails are various, from the ryanbacon41@yahoo.com he used here, to elfradiowave@gmail.com, to mlhomm@yahoo.com.

    His date of birth, for those who wish to maybe send him birthday wishes stapled to a piece of matzah or tucked inside a yarmulke, is 10/22/1978 (he’s the same age as my wife!). And for those who see portent in such things, I believe he was born in CA.

  129. sdferr says:

    And here I had thought the commotion was over Pasties?

  130. bh says:

    Okay, apparently Welch is transmogrified Welsh. As an ethnic slur for a dirty hillbilly not paying their debts, I gotta figure Welsh is a wee bit more correct then.

  131. palaeomerus says:

    Wow. He was born exactly seven years after me! Thanks for fucking up my dang birthday with your jew hating asshattery Marc. A year after Starwars too! Great!

    Honestly, though I’ve been pretty fucked up about my birthday since I turned 37 anyway.

  132. sdferr says:

    ‘s my sisters birthday too, though ’60.

  133. palaeomerus says:

    So is he a cajun that got tossed out the swamp for being a tightly wound cartoon smut monger ? Did his daddy get tossed out of Quebec for using english words in public?

  134. Mr. W says:

    Was Mr. L’Hommedieu also RD?

    RD, aka the odious fellow I somehow managed to confuse with JD last night.

    Initials! Feh…

    It’s like how they name cars in numbers and letters now. Introducing the all new 2012 GX550STX! Now with 36% more VVTL!

    What was wrong with Plymouth Barracuda and Sunbeam Tiger and such?

    Names are good. LBJ? bad! FDR? Bad! JFK? Freaky and Cuban Missle Crisis bad!

    I’m just saying…

  135. bh says:

    Has Mr. W made good on his loosing bets towards this month’s fundraiser or not?

    I thought this was gonna happen. I said “Cheers” and everything. Thought it was a nice moment.

  136. bh says:

    losing bets

    Yeah, I probably do have a brain lesion.

  137. Mike LaRoche says:

    Louisiana? Quebec? Given the anti-semitism, I’m guessing Vichy France.

  138. Mr. W says:

    There’s an old Welsh saying, attributed to the 17th century poet, Angus McNewrouter, that goes, “have paid off you bets yet git?”

  139. sdferr says:

    Y’know, Welshmen do have marvelous names.

  140. bh says:

    No, I mean that as direct question, Mr. W. Just like everyone else. You were something of a twat about the wager. How all the people here were pussies and wouldn’t take it. You went on and on about it.

    JD took that bet. (For a hundo.) Abe did. LTC John did. I might be missing others.

    Did you pay it?

    Direct question.

  141. bh says:

    It isn’t cool to Welsh on your bets. ADD and joking aside, it’s not cool.

    Especially after you made such a point about it. Over and over and over.

  142. Mr. W says:

    Gee whiz, fellows! Isn’t it just good internet form that when a prodigal commenter such as myself returns, you wait a couple of days before going through my pockets for loose change? Of course it is!

    Apology accepted. Now let’s just forget all this unpleasantness and move on.

    Or as the French like to say, “…have paid off you bets yet git?”

    To which I always reply, “Au moins nous savons qu’il est!”

    I say, Non!

  143. Mr. W says:

    No offense, but really bh, you might want to log off and go outside occasionally if my being obnoxious in a comment thread has haunted you even in my absence.

    Not a sermon, just a thought.

  144. bh says:

    Allow me to give a thought.

    Men pay their debts.

  145. bh says:

    Want to know why I remember you?

    Because you were relentlessly condescending with your wager. And then disappeared when you lost.

    This doesn’t happen very often. It makes an impression.

  146. Mr. W says:

    Dude, you do know that your icon is a kitten peeking out of a box, right?

  147. JD says:

    Apology accepted. Now let’s just forget all this unpleasantness and move on.

    Fuck you and the goat you ride in on. Thanks for showing your utter lack of character. Crawl back under your rock.

  148. JD says:

    That kitten Luvin cheesehead has more integrity in his fingernail clippings than lying welcher Mr W could ever dream of having.

  149. bh says:

    This deadbeat is still putting on airs.

    It’s amazing.

  150. sdferr says:

    I gots better airs.

  151. cranky-d says:

    I am one of those who requested ceiling cat remain as bh’s avatar. It makes me smile all the time.

  152. Mr. W says:

    The last time I was here I recall that the skin was thicker and the comments contained substantially more wit than, “Fuck you and the goat you ride in on.”

    But I suppose time dulls even the sharpest blades.

    You’re better than that! Now concentrate! Focus… What are you really trying to say?

  153. bh says:

    What’s happening here? Is this a new troll being born?

    It’s real simple, Mr. W. Let’s take Pablo as an example. He lost a bet to you. He paid it. You lost a bet — and it wasn’t even close — to a few people after being a relentlessly cock about it.

    Pay your debt.

    That’s it. You can’t say anything clever here. Pay it.

  154. Mr. W says:

    I have to go to bed now.

    Tonight was not your finest literary hour, bh. I would like to see some better insults from you when I arise.

    Dammit, man! I need to see some slights worthy of the Goldstein brand when I log in tomorrow!

  155. bh says:

    This guy isn’t right in the head.

  156. sdferr says:

    Literary? Insults aren’t necessary Mr. W.
    You do yourself all you need done. And if that’s enough for you, so much the worse.

  157. geoffb says:

    I want Obama unpresidented.

    The WaPo however calls Obamacare “Christian Charity“.

  158. geoffb says:

    Quotes:

    Direct action for mercy is valued over abstract passion for piety. Logically then, it goes against Christian discipleship of Christ to repeal the Affordable Care Act without offering a substitute that will provide for 40 million uninsured, most of them children. Talk of “government take over” or “use of abortifacients” does not relieve the Christian’s need to be keeper of our brothers and sisters. Yet, we are treated these days to the irony of religion being invoked as reason to avoid Christian responsibility for health care.
    [..]
    The Paul Ryan budget endorsed by the Republican party is built upon the principles of atheist Ayn Rand. The Catholic League assails atheists and secularists for offenses like not illuminating the Empire State Building with red lights for Cardinal Dolan, but is meekly uncritical about Randism and uncharacteristically silent about Ryan’s individualism that contradicts centuries of Catholic social justice teaching.

    Other “Christian” politics include legislating for more guns and opposing restrictions on their sale. I am waiting for one of these believers to explain how being pro-gun fulfills Jesus’ teaching on “turning the other cheek” (Mt. 5:39). Why do they promote laws like Florida’s “Stand Your Ground: in other states? “Claims of justifiable homicide in Florida have tripled since the law’s passage in 2005” with the result that murder goes unpunished more often. The death of Trayvon Martin should not be required to condemn laws that violate the teachings of Jesus both in word and deed. Why would any Christian be silent about such abuses?

    Jesus told us to take in “strangers,” and Catholic teaching has applied this to the need for humane immigration reform. Yet “super-Christians” favor deportation of all the undocumented, even to the extreme of Republicans in Congress ridiculing medical attention to those imprisoned.

    I think he even got the kitchen sink into that. BTW “centuries of Catholic social justice teaching.“? Centuries? Social Justice?

  159. sdferr says:

    What transparent tripe.

    Yes, where is Jesus while Anthony M. Stevens-Arroyo is falsifying Paul Ryan’s intentions if not the “Gospel message” itself, I wonder? Must be Jesus is busy this passion-week surrendering his own testament to tyrannical, intrusive nannystate Government, since government can without question be assumed to care more justly, more “socially” than men.

  160. bh says:

    Yet, we are treated these days to the irony of religion being invoked as reason to avoid Christian responsibility for health care.

    O’Rly? That’s odd.

    It’s strange how even dirty agnostics might attend to their responsibilities and then do their part for charity.

    I can only imagine what those terrible Christians are doing.

    They speak of epistemic closure but this is where we must laugh. They don’t understand how people take responsibility — before charity even — so they don’t even recognize how these statements are a public confession.

  161. Jeff G. says:

    Today’s edgy, hip, left antiestablishmentarians: “Put the government in my uterus and Jesus into my laws!”

    It’s like the Woodstock generation caught the clap and wants to make sure nobody else does all the stupid shit with their freedoms those morons did.

  162. Jeff G. says:

    Incidentally, he may as well have called the very foundational conception of the US a godless affront to Christianity — then noted that if we’re going to go godless anyway, we may as well do it using secular manifestations of Christian teachings, which is all socialism really is!

  163. bh says:

    They want the government deep, deep, deep into their business.

    Chained rebels wouldn’t be a good band name.

  164. sdferr says:

    “Chained rebels wouldn’t be a good band name.”

    How would Ballsdeep Between Their Cheeks do?

  165. palaeomerus says:

    These are people who find a right to privacy somehow gleaming forth and cast as shadows by the other ammendments in the bill of rights and yet who look at the 2nd ammendment and immediately start looking for reasons why the right clearly there isn’t REALLY there.

    It’s obvious bullshit.

    A fat headed pretentious “constitutional scholar” who thinks he is a master loop hole spotter, who thinks his “education” somehow authorizes him to drift through legal barriers like Casper the Friendly Ghost, and erect new barriers at will like Morbius sitting in the Krell mind machine, is nothing but a bullshitter. The fault lies with the people who accept his bullshit as more than bullshit. The fault lies with the men and women charged to prevent him, who do NOTHING and merely shrug.

    He says:

    “Fuck your constitution. Your constitution is a lot of naive sweet pillow talk scribbled out on an old piece of paper, produced by men I hold in contempt, purely to entice the reluctant states and their denizens into very real set of shackles that exist for your own protection, as a lesser breed of men. Those shackles will bind you and yours for all time. This constitution you prattle on about, was not meant to restrain men of vision and purpose like me. It is your cage. Your constitution is like the yellow line in the middle of a two way road. It won’t stop a vehicle or an animal. It will only stop a weak willed driver who sees it and believes in it. Your yellow lines won’t stop a man like me. We are living under my constitution. My constitution comes from the throat of an angry mob and the barrel of a gun and from the pens of infiltrators and radicals and your betters who will allow you to live only the life the you deserve to live. I will paint yellow lines and you will obey them. I will step over the yellow lines I did not paint and the ones I did. I will punish you for ignoring my lines. I will reward others who punish you. Any questions? Who cares? Fuck your questions. I won. I have the keys to “the car” and I don’t need you anymore. I am ABOVE your questions. I am above 2010. Prove me wrong bitches. I dare you. “

  166. B Moe says:

    So does this mean we are a Christian nation after all?

  167. palaeomerus says:

    Christian(TM).

  168. geoffb says:

    What I see is Obama has sent out the call for everyone to jump the shark together with him.

  169. Slartibartfast says:

    31 (a, amended) And then verily did they rise up and realise they were were not only being oppressed by the tyrants and kings and taxmen but they outnumbered the foul vermin. also.

    Therefore, they went forth with their boomsticks and put an end tho the tyranny

    The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
    He makes me down to lie
    Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
    With bright knives he releaseth my soul
    He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
    He converteth me to lamb cutlets
    For lo, he hath great power and great hunger
    When cometh the day we lowly ones
    Through quiet reflection and great dedication
    Master the art of karate
    Lo, we shall rise up
    And then we’ll make the bugger’s eyes water.

  170. Dale Price says:

    The Catholicism of Mr. Stevens-Arroyo (perhaps another “white Hispanic”?) is defined by the borders of a deformed and mangled notion of “social justice” that has been foisted on the Church in America since 1965. It is completely divorced from Catholic moral theology (which it hates with a white-hot fury), without which it turns into another ugly cheerleader shaking the pom-pons for statism.

    Pius XI, who blasted both Nazism and Communism in his encyclicals, also said “No one can be at the same time a sincere Catholic and a true socialist.”

    They’ve never heard of him.

  171. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The WaPo however calls Obamacare “Christian Charity.“

    Well sure. Jesus was all about using the State to make people be good to their neighbors, wasn’t he?

  172. McGehee says:

    bh says April 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    You have to use entities: < and &ampgt;

    palaeomerus says April 2, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    It really gets my Irish up when people Welsh on their obligations and get off Scot-free. But I can’t say so or I’ll end up in Dutch.

    (To complete the McGehee-heritage perfecta I’d have to work in “jerry-rigged” and sonmething about the French and English as well, but it’s too early in the morning.)

  173. McGehee says:

    &ampgh; should be >

  174. […] Once again, Jeff says it, and says it well: So this is where we are as a country: It’s now “judicial activism” to rule in accordance […]

  175. McGehee says:

    OT: I believe it was a PW post not too long ago that discussed an eagle-killing permit given to Indians in Wyoming for their religious use.

    Turns out there’s a problem. They can’t kill the eagle on the Reservation, but when off the Reseervation they have to comply with state law — and Wyoming also forbids the shooting of bald eagles.

  176. Come in here dear boy, have a cigar you’re going to go far.
    You’re going to fly high, you’re never going to die, you’re going to make it if you try,
    They’re going to love you.
    Well, I’ve always had a deep respect and I mean that most sincerely.
    The bill is just fantastic, that is really what I think.
    Oh, by the way, which one’s a fink?
    And did we tell you the name of the game boy, we call it riding the gravy train.

  177. […] Jeff Goldstein The constant and steady perversion of language and meaning has finally brought us to the surreal endpoint where a president stands before the public and pretends that a Supreme Court ruling is illegitimate if it looks to the Constitution for guidance on checks to federal power. […]

  178. sdferr says:

    Further to McG’s ot entry, a question for the lawyers: wouldn’t the incorporation doctrine serve to apply the First amndt rights of the tribe to Wyoming law, so to ease the tribe’s way to bagging their eagle outside reservation land, whether on Fed, State or private land?

  179. sdferr says:

    Which reminds me.

    Pork: etc.
    States: the other sovereign governments
    Indian reservations: the other other sovereign governments

  180. […] Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom (hat tip to blogger friend Terri) snags the 125th award for BSIHORL (Best Sentence I’ve Heard Or Read Lately): The constant and steady perversion of language and meaning has finally brought us to the surreal endpoint where a president stands before the public and pretends that a Supreme Court ruling is illegitimate if it looks to the Constitution for guidance on checks to federal power. […]

  181. sdferr says:

    Geoffb, does this constitute suspicious timing added to your WaPo link? Sure looks concerted to me.

  182. B Moe says:

    You know, this “overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress” is wrong, wrong, wrong attitude could come in handy if the Republicans can manage to take both sides of Congress this fall.

    Seems to me Presidential vetoes would violate that doctrine also.

  183. Physics Geek says:

    I mentioned to someone the other day that a law was not constitutional just because they liked it. They looked at me like I had two heads. I swear that we’re doomed as a country. Right now, I’m gearing up to survive and rebuild.

  184. geoffb says:

    I’d say yes sdferr.

    To continue to expand his attacks on all fronts he will need manpower, and funding.

  185. sdferr says:

    It’s mystifying (and in a way frightening) that The Hill could report on Obama’s bizarre remarks about the Court, yet find itself incapable of presenting a single contrary voice specifically addressing Obama’s absurd “what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress” in that report? The emperor may be naked but best to keep that a strictly private thought.

  186. But seriously, is President Obama saying judicial activism is bad or good? Or is he just saying that conservatives can’t have it but progressives can. You know, heads I win, tails you lose.

    He’s entitled to argue like an entitled fool, but you’d think the self-proclaimed defenders of our liberty might understand what he’s saying.

  187. LBascom says:

    Other “Christian” politics include legislating for more guns and opposing restrictions on their sale. I am waiting for one of these believers to explain how being pro-gun fulfills Jesus’ teaching on “turning the other cheek” (Mt. 5:39).

    My favorite parts of Christian politics are when Sampson picked up the jaw bone of an ass and slaughtered 800 or so, Jesus made a whip and beat the tax collectors out of the temple, and John cut the ear off a soldier with his sword(which is pretty good sword control I think) when they came to arrest them. No word on whether John told the soldier to turn the other cheek for a shot at the other ear, but I like to think so.

    Also, I looked high and low…still can’t find any call from God to be my brothers keeper. Dude can get a haircut, a job, and keep his own ass.

  188. Blake says:

    charles, Our President is in love with the sound of his own voice and thinks that when he speaks He is speaking.

  189. TRHein says:

    From sdferr link…

    “It’s antithetical to our entire history as a land of opportunity and upward mobility for everyone who’s willing to work for it – a place where prosperity doesn’t trickle down from the top, but grows outward from the heart of the middle class.”

    I never realized that all this time I have been trying to move up that I should have been moving out, though I should say that I did move out quite a long time ago.

    Perhaps I am misreading that statement and the outward growth from the heart of the middle class is actually speaking of home cooked meals.

  190. LTC John says:

    “JD took that bet. (For a hundo.) Abe did. LTC John did. I might be missing others.

    Did you pay it?

    Direct question.”

    I have received naught. I’d wipe the slate clean if the $20 gets sent to Jeff instead. Otherwise I could run around yelling “I want my $2”! ..er, $20.

  191. LTC John says:

    Lee – I am partial to Gideon’s commando action m’self. First recorded Special Forces action in history.

  192. cranky-d says:

    Basically, they are only interested in religion when they can use it as a cudgel against their opposition.

    Speaking of cudgels, the CrankyCudgel™ is currently on sale for 25% off. Get yours today!

  193. sdferr says:

    Are CrankyCudgel’s™ a result of the rape of the forests, or are they bio-friendly carbonfiber & polyester resin blends?

  194. palaeomerus says:

    I’d hope for steel or tungsten cored with a soft grey cast iron striker head frosted with a tough sealant. In a war-club config with a a spike or boss-nub.

    Shaped like this only with a lanyard.

    http://www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/indian-war-club-92pbh.jpg

  195. newrouter says:

    can the CrankyCudgel™ be made from algae? can it be powered by solar cells? call doe they have “money to invest”.

  196. cranky-d says:

    Our CrankyCudgels™ are made from a wide variety of materials. We offer them in the finest American hardwoods and hardwood laminates as well as modern carbon-fiber reinforced synthetic laminates.

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