Almost as surprising as “libertarian” Ron Paul going on TV to express his distaste with Rush Limbaugh’s language, then declare his apology disingenuous (note how, even after the apology they demanded, the left is cheering Limbaugh’s additional loss of sponsors. Because they don’t want him sorry, they want him destroyed and shunned.)
At any rate, I expect Mr Paul’s newsletters are about to get a more public airing.
You listening, Mark Levin?
I already didn’t use Carbonite, but I can drop other sponsors. (I’m looking at you, ProFlowers.)
Pussies.
I have a question for all the edgy, real-world, pragmatic Republicans out there, who may have seen Jeff’s central thesis and dismissed it as interesting linguistically but impractical and academic… of little use in the rough-and-tumble of everyday politics. Here goes:
You now find yourselves in the position of defending the integrity and honor of a known Democrat operative activist pushing demagogic propaganda in front of an all-Democrat body in Congress for the purpose of shutting down debate and enshrining the smallest blandishments of socialized medicine.
How is that pragmatism working out for you?
I wonder how long it’s going to be before Carbonite gets a new CEO or goes away. That’s a pretty ugly quarterly report.
I’m sort of in sunny-dee’s boat — the only cowardly sponsor I know of that I’ve ever done business with even once is the one my back has already vetoed ever doing business with again.
Then again, just how long a list is it?
link
One thing is pretty clear. While radio advertisers pay for putting some interesting people on the air, you can almost never go wrong with the decision to studiously avoid giving business to these advertisers.
Hell, half the ads on radio are for ambulance chasers and phony diet supplements.
ProFlowers is actually Provide Commerce and owns a few other brands:
Cherry Moon Farms – gourmet fruit and gift baskets
Shari’s Berries – covered strawberries and other gourmet food gifts
RedEnvelope – upscale gifts for all occasions
Florist Express – same day flower and gift delivery throughout the United States.
Personal Creations – gifts
ProFlowers is easy enough to replace, but Shari’s Berries is gonna hurt a little. But it turns out, they screwed Shari.
Will never use Proflowers ever again. They have (or had) a byzantine “special offer” that ended up enrolling you in a “discount” program that charges you every month for exactly nothing in return. One of those deals where unless you read the very fine print you may inadvertently check a box that enrolls you.
I wonder what Hannity’s response will be, since he has many of these as his sponsors, also.
Same goes for Beck and Wilkow.
I don’t use Carbonite. *Waaah* It would have been nice to be able to discontinue the service over this.
I rely on the generosity of people who buy upgrades on things like Dropbox and GoodSync so I can create my offsite backups without any out-of-pocket expenditures.
So anyone here who isn’t paying for Dropbox or for GoodSync Pro, you’re denying me my rights as a free(up)loader! And you’re probably raaaaacist too.
I’m going to avoid declarative statements about Rush and his sponsors until I hear Rush on the radio tomorrow.
Less likely to look foolish in retrospect…
I’ve seen many claims today that the “reason” for Limbaugh’s apology is because his sponsors were leaving, which may or may not be the case. Whichever it is, I saw his apology, as it happens, before I’d heard anything of sponsors dropping off his show.
Rush was in a pizza Hit commercial once. Can I support Rush by ordering a sunday pizza? If the answer is no then shut the fuck up because I totally want a pizza now.
My personal gen X Schitzoid pop-psych score board for tonight reads:
Inner child: 2 pt.s Prudence, self determination, and restraint: Nope.
I have already notified Carbonite that I will no longer be doing business with them:
I am writing to inform you that I have suspended the automatic renewal of my subscription that was scheduled for April 19, 2012. By which time I will have secured alternate back-up services and will allow my account to lapse.
I do this because I am deeply disappointed by the actions your company has taken with regard to removing its advertising from the Rush Limbaugh show. Your decision to cooperate with a coordinated effort to silence political discourse, whether through your agreement with that cause or your lack of courage to maintain your originally professed neutral position, is not something I wish to support.
Pizza is here! Rush supported! Kind of. Maybe. I hope so. Sigh.
I guess maybe I’ll buy a case of tea and a month of Rush 24/7 and see where that takes me.
Perhaps anyone not doing business with Carbonite can send them a note and let them know that they were under consideration but are no longer deemed as vendor that can be trusted.
The local ads are also imortant, maybe more so. Stations pay to air Rush. It is the local ad revenue that allows that. I’m going to send a note to my local affiliate letting them know that I intend to continue to patronize the local advertisers that continue to advertise.
David Gregory pronounces it “Flook”, which, while not exactly “Fluck” isn’t a fluke either, I’d wager. Newt pronounces it “distraction”.
Is Gregory sober? I’ve heard it as Fluck on the radio and Flook on the teevee.
Hey! The posibilities are endless for bad jokes:
Go take a flying Fluck.
Fluck off.
Well, Fluck me!
Fluck it all!
Feel free to join in.
All my local ads have been of the Santorum-bashing type. So I guess I need to tell Romney that I will vote for Santorum if he stops his anti-Santorum ads.
fluke baracky
Stephanopolous pronounces it “Fluck”. Newt still pronounces it “distraction”.
I can’t wait until next Wednesday when I won’t have to hear those ads again.
Newt: still the only guy with his eye on the ball, not the shiny.
People who think Carbonite provides a valuable service should check out them out some Mozy.
so when carbonite goes belly up does your data go with it? oh my.
No linux support? No use to me.
YMMV.
External hard-drive(s).
Yah, because we can *never* call someone on her utter falsehoods going after a welfare state handout. Seriously, the tart’s cell phone bills, and I will bet her Starbucks coffees, are more than her birth control pills per month. That you fall of this obvious red herring is sad indeed.
So George Will has gone the prissypants David Brooks and David Frum route, so he can go the proper cocktail parties too? Well screw that. I’m tired of theirs getting away with murder while ours are read the riot act for jaywalking or missing the fine print in the Liberal Media’s Rules.
Carbonite? Fuck you too. I will seek out another provider of your services.
Error above. That should read, “That they fall for this obvious red herring….”
Yeah. I’ve got Norton Ghost and two backup drives, one internal one external.
I just went looking for dicentra’s pw Pub post on Carbonite, and I see that the Pub is dead. Long live the Pub.
Di did not have high praise for Carbonite, as I recall.
I back up my computer by memorizing the binary sequence every night.
Of course, I’m not as lazy as some people…
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreaganlibertypark.htm
FWIW, I use something very similar. It was originally Copernic Backup, and now its SOS Backup Online.
I’d do external hard-drives, but I want something offsite. I’m less concerned about (only) data loss from a machine failure than I am fire or robbery.
I used to keep a handful of 3.5″ floppies to do manual backups off my 386.
These days I couldn’t fit a backup on the entire hard drive of that computer.
…or even on 500 hard drives that same size. Jeez.
And so it begins/ends. Andrew Breitbart’s last Big Thing: The Love Song Of Saul Alinsky.
3.5″, McG? Well, now you’re just bragging.
I remember walking around with my back-breaking armful of 5.25″ floppies while a carload of you future people would drive by and taunt me.
Or were they 8″? It’s hard to remember through the tears.
and I see that the Pub is dead. Long live the Pub.
The Pub is not dead.
It just has some temporary paperwork problems with its liquor licence.
I’ve still got a Radio Shack Trash 80 with 3 floppy drives in my parent’s basement. Were they 8 inches or 10 inches? I don’t even remember. 64K those were the days my friend.
I just ordered an external backup drive 4 terrabytes and said screw Carbonite. What’s the best ghosting software to go with? I am not a Norton fan.
This is just business fellas. Rush, Hanity, Schultz, Stern, Maher, Imus, don’t have a first ammendment right to a fat paycheck and a radio network. They’re put in front of the microphone for one reason, and one reason only – they bring eyes and ears to advertisers. The second they’re a liability – or a company can score a PR victory by distanctancing themselves from said – under the bus they go.
Yes, there’s a group that would love to destroy Rush and get him off the air forever. There’s plenty that hoped Schultz’s calling Ingram a slut would get him fired too.
None of that’s relevant. The advertisers are doing what they’re doing because it’s a good business move.
And if Clear Channel thinks it’s good for the bottom line to tell Rush to get his ass on the air and appologize, they get to. He’s an employee.
Exactly, just business.
Think they were 8″. Remember an old dual floppy drive (they went in vertically) that was as big as my cpu now. Before that? I remember a cassette tape that made modem noises (a modem being something I didn’t actually hear for many more years) if you put it into a normal cassette player. That’s all I got. No punch cards for me.
I use an external drive as well and just have Windows do it while I’m sleeping.
We know it’s business. And guess what else is? Our response.
This is just business fellas. Rush, Hanity, Schultz, Stern, Maher, Imus, don’t have a first ammendment right to a fat paycheck and a radio network.
But the gov’t does have control over who has access to the airwaves. It’s a wonder we have held out for this long (on AM!)
That’d be an assertion without evidence. Businesses make mistakes all the times.
I just notified Proflowers, too. Asked to have my account deactivated and all email offers to cease. This has the added benefit of nailing them with the spam tag every time they send one out and reporting it to my myriad email SPs. Enough of those spam reports and it plays havoc with the ISP autospam monitors.
Right, bh? Remember when HP said “Who’d want a home computer?”
Right, so make it a mistake. Demand Carbonite pull adds from Schultz. Be ready when the next lib host steps in it. These advertisers were told they were going to lose business if they kept running these ads. Make sure they lose more for pulling the ads.
O/T
Over at Ace, I just raised a milquetoast to Mitt.
I’m not sure why you’re telling us this, businessrights.
Did we appear to be ignorant of any of that?
Me either. I keep dropping hints to my mother-in-law to get rid of Norton on her computer, but…
Anyway, some external terabyte-plus drives come with their own backup software, but I’ve mentioned GoodSync several times in this thread for a reason. It does require some investment of time and learning/figuring out to set it up, but it will work with an onsite external hard drive just as well as with an offsite cloud storage account or three.
That’d be an assertion without evidence. Businesses make mistakes all the times.
New Coke. What did I win?
I go back as far as 7500baud dial up modems with punch cards and lousy phone service. Nothing like getting through 500 cards of a 1000 card program feed and having the service interrupted then dropping the cards on the floor. Also Visicalc. I thought I was moving up to the big leagues when I ditched the TRS80 for a compaq portable computer with a 5″ green screen and keyboard that folded down said “portable computer” weighed about 15 pounds and was the size of a large suitcase. It was floppy run also.. but 5″ ones.
Thanks McGehee. I’ll look into them.
I guess I’m just surprised to see the bloggers here spend so much ink on how it’s so wrong that (a) feminists exist (b) they think they’re right and (c) they’re trying to get Rush fired.
So fucking what? The world is full of groups with agendas that think they’re right, and try to use their freedom of speech to get their way. In fact, I have trouble thinking of any group – be it a church, union, business lobby, non-profit, etc that doesn’t meet this definition.
I mean, I’m not the one who wrote, “Sleepnumber, Citrix, Proflowers, Carbonite, et al., may all have been bullied into pretending that by supporting Ms Fluke they are by extension supporting “woman’s health” and engaging in a sober and serious discussion about the need for free and universal access to rubbers.”
These companies couldn’t give a rats ass less about women’s health and free rubbers. They care about making a profit. Period.
Oh boy. I have a feeling this is gonna be hella fruitful.
One might wonder whether maximizing profits would be better accomplished in a political arrangement like unto the United States in, say, 1926, or in the Soviet Union of the same era?
If you want a discussion, try laying out other people’s positions honestly. That first paragraph is a doozy.
It’s sorta a red flag that you might just want to talk shit.
It sure would be nice if some Republicans in Congress could arrange for their own hearings. One where other students could relate actual facts. Like other alternative law schools of similar ranking that do offer contraception coverage as part of the package, or maybe ones that happened to cost a little less – just enough less to cover the out of pocket cost of contraceptives. Or maybe a simple bit of math about the actual expense of contraception, and how small it is compared to the total cost of law school. Hell, maybe contrast it to the monthly cost of cell phone service, or parking fees.
Then maybe someone representing the University could testify about the entire notion of religious liberty.
And after all that maybe Ms. Fluke could be called back and asked how the numbers she cited don’t match what the others have stated, or how she could fail to see this as an issue of liberty, maybe even asked specifically about her actual,/i> expenses – contraception, housing, food, cell phone, etc. Or why she chose Georgetown, and whether she had considered any other schools.
What would really be impressive is to see a Congresscritter or two take their time when Fluke is sitting there to ask her if if she agrees that this is all just a pointless distraction intended to provide cover for a failed Presidency.
I mean, I’m not the one who wrote, “Sleepnumber, Citrix, Proflowers, Carbonite, et al., may all have been bullied into pretending that by supporting Ms Fluke they are by extension supporting “woman’s health” and engaging in a sober and serious discussion about the need for free and universal access to rubbers.”
Too bad. You should have. You can’t see how corporations get bullied? Their being gutless wonders makes it no less bullying.
These companies couldn’t give a rats ass less about women’s health and free rubbers. They care about making a profit. Period.
No shit, Sherlock?
The point is that the companies feel a need to appease an interest group which is by all accounts out of the mainstream, because said interest group has a much bigger media apparatus than said mainstream.
I’m glad others found it as obvious as I did what I was saying.
So I don’t like it. So I used my blog to write about it.
Many of them rely on their freedom of speech, not lobby Congress to negate others’.
You’re also one of the only people who didn’t understand it. So there’s that, too.
Gee, ya think? Luckily, there are other companies who are likely to fill the void.
Some that might even have balls. We’ll see.
You think corporations have a responsibility to be brave? You want to go into a board meeting and say, “Yes, sales are down 10%, but we’re brave!”
Yes, corporations are all run by fucking idiots who will just shred the bottom line to appease some group that doesn’t matter, and the only smart people are the guys who sit around and comment on blogs. Which is why you, with your vast intelligence, make 1/100th what the average CEO makes (and I’m probably being very generous there).
Do you guys understand business? At all?
Maybe you should all get together and launch a company. Go into a VC with your PowerPoint and say, “We think we can easilly knock off X and take their share because they’re run by idiots who pander to the extreme left. They’ll be easy!!!”
By the way, this new fella is using an IP anonymizer and a mail blocking program. That smells to me like somebody who’s been here before and then was ushered out.
Yes, those are called – the poor ones. Any group with the means to lobby congress generally does. Lobbying congress is free speech.
Yep, you just want to talk shit.
Lobbying Congress to take away the First Amendment rights of others? Yeah, okay.
If some company wants to back an attack on the Constitution, they can expect a backlash. And judging from what I’ve seen a bit on some of the listservs, it’s coming.
They have a choice which group to appease here. Time will tell if those chose wisely.
Whereas I don’t need any more time to know what you are.
Bye.
Well, I wouldn’t say all but there’s a non-trivial number of them that are.
Hell, I worked for one of ’em. Judging from the Carbonite numbers other people have posted as well as the almost-scam antics of ProFlowers mentioned above, I’d say those are two more candidates of “corporations run by fucking idiots”.
Businesses are magical and can’t be pressured. They see and know all. Because rich guys work there.
Q.E.D.
Maybe you should all get together and launch a company. Go into a VC with your PowerPoint and say, “We think we can easilly knock off X and take their share because they’re run by idiots who pander to the extreme left. They’ll be easy!!!”
Which is the story of Fox News and most of talk radio. But you don’t *get* that, do you?
Yes, those are called – the poor ones. Any group with the means to lobby congress generally does. Lobbying congress is free speech.
I was wrong. You *do* get it. That’s why you *like* what they are doing. You make me sick.
I like to write letters to the editor of magazines, not so much that I want to see them published, but that someone will have to read them, and if it pushes the right buttons, it will be forwarded up along the line. An example of one I just wrote tonight:
Gentlepersons,
You go from the sublime to the ridiculous. Quote: “But when total fuel costs are tallied, including the expense of repairing environmental damage attributable to carbon-containing fuels, hydrogen is more attractive.”* Maybe you should just stop giving retorts to the “letters to the editor”.You actually use more lines to defend hydrogen fuel than the published letters against it.
*Link, please. Hopefully containing actual expenses and damage.
Regards,
Paper tape on a PDP-8 (I believe) with teletypewriters for I/O with Basic. 1973-74 or so.
Still have my Amiga 500 in the basement with its 7.14 megahertz processor 1 meg of ram and 3.5 in. floppy drive.
Dunno if he likes it or not.
It’s pretty well known that larger corporations (presumably those with more money) are fine with using lawfare against their competition (both present and potential). You can certainly argue against the ethics of such a move, but that horse left the barn a long time ago.
“. . . an IP anonymizer and a mail blocking program. . .”
heh. Just a businessman who understands his corporation might be harmed if his retarded political views were to be put on display.
Osborne or Kaypro? My wife’s first computer was a Kaypro.
Oops sorry I didn’t know Compaq made one too.
3.5?, McG? Well, now you’re just bragging.
I remember walking around with my back-breaking armful of 5.25? floppies while a carload of you future people would drive by and taunt me.
I took a class in Fortran 77 on punch cards.
And I’ve still got my 486 in my room with Windows 3.1 installed.
I AM the Smithsonian.
Just want to call your attention to this Breitbart encomium from newly outed Daniel Knauf.
It’s a beautiful thing.
Oh for fucks sake, why?
Still have my Amiga 500 in the basement with its 7.14 megahertz processor 1 meg of ram and 3.5 in. floppy drive.
Wow. My first computer was a 500. For its time and price it was amazing.
Well, I thought mentioning my Wang word processor might be a bit gauche seeing as we’re talking pussies.
Bows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feathered canyons everywhere
I’ve looked at clouds that way.
But now they only block the sun
They rain and snow on everyone
So many things I would have done ,
But clouds got in my way
I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
Its cloud illusions I recall
I really don’t know clouds at all.
sdferr says March 4, 2012 at 11:29 pm
Oh for fucks sake, why?
Because if conservatives would just accept abuse, wouldn’t we all be happier? To paraphrase Jake Barnes, “Yes. Isn’t it pretty to think so?”
Too bad the company was run by some idiots.
I’m a packrat so I still have my issues of Amiga World and Amazing Computing, my Magnavox monitor and a few hundred floppies of programs including quite a few of the Fred Fish discs. If I ever get some room I’ll probably set it up for old times sake and old games.
If you look at Carbonite’s earnings report then yes, it appears to be run by a fucking idiot. Or maybe the whole business plan is idiotic. But they stink of great fail.
I have an Amiga 500 and 2000 in the basement. I bought an accelerator for the 500 that had a 50 Mhz 68030 and 68882 coprocessor and 32 MB of memory. It plugged into the cpu socket. I then moved it to the 2000. I used it until 1999, when I finally built my first PC clone.
Power!
By the way, did you ever notice how trolls pick troll-like names all the time?
I mean, “businessrights” for a post about business that attempts to tell us what we already know. How stupid.
Just to take the sublime to the ridiculous, when I was 13YO my backup knowledge was a 1947 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia. There was no one who could challenge my mastery of most any subject regarding general knowledge throughout high school . I was an information guru from that time. I eventually became a chemical engineer. But my ability to solve problems, regardless of specialty (chemical, electrical, mechanical, civil) put a heavy burden on me. I became the “Problem Broker” for our plant. Ultimately, this was a burden I could not bear. I will leave you to conclude what was expected from me, but I will say that though I was right 95% of the time, they would always throw that 5% that you were wrong in your face.
But I can look past that now. the problems in my family I can accept and deal with, as I always have. The problems in the plant are someone else’s now. Thank God
Just mentioned by a reporter on GMA:
“No rush to judge Rush”; referring to the GOP presidential candidates insufficiently outraged response to Limbaugh’s comment.
Apparently, a failure to firebomb Rush’s house is akin to a lock step endorsement these days.
When I was in college some of my classmates were taking computer classes that involved a lot of punching holes in cards. While I was composing a class paper in the Macintosh lab.
In my house it was a Collier’s, © 1960 (I was born in 1961).
It was kind of surreal consulting those volumes about stuff and stumbling across an article that stated, “Dwight David Eisenhower (b. 1890) is the 34th President of the United States.”
As a child I had an Odyssey 2. Eventually that got upgraded to a Ti-994A. My Father brought home a PC from Xerox that had a blue text-only monitor that left luinance trails on the screen when you moved the cursor with the arrow keys. It ran CPM. I got an Amiga 1000 after that which was great. The first computer I bought myself was a Packerd Bell Legend 5000 which was one of the first 60 Mhz. Pentiums.
I have a piece of crap e-machines budget PC now.
I had to go to the library to use the encyclopedias. My dad bought me a CD set of digitized National Geographics from the beginning to 1998 for Christmas once. That sure seemed pretty impressive and modern at the time.
The first computer I ever used was a DEC VAX 11/780. The first computer I ever used for doing stuff other than Advent was a much older CDC machine, mostly accessible through punched cards. But on a couple of ill-fated login sessions: an actual TTY.
Never cat a binary file when logged into a TTY.
Then I started using the aforementioned VAX machines for homework, etc, with occasional forays over to the Math building to use the then-spanking-new Cyber 205.
Somewhere in there I had acquired an 8085 expansion board, which you could program either by inserting a burned EPROM or by entering machine code, one line at a time, by hex keypad. It looks like this. I soldered in A/D and D/A convertors operating at a blazing 8 kHz (I think) and 16 bits depth, which was the best I could afford in 1982.
But I didn’t get a real desktop until about 1992.
Oh.
Punched cards: yes. FORTRAN on punched cards: yes.
Paper tape: no.
BASIC: Si.
Intel 8080/8085 assembly programming? Yes.
Tektronix mega-green CRT plotting of data using Tek graphics extensions called from FORTRAN code? Yes.
My 486 DX50 chowed its own voluminously large (200MB!) HDD while I was recompiling my Linux kernel, sometime in 1998 or so. I cried.
I had to do an optical encoder paper tape with a G-code predecessor program on a numerical controlled lathe once. None of the semi-modern CNC lathes were available to I put a tool on the old one and begged for a manual from the old tech guys.
Worked pretty well too.