“Egyptian women fret as ‘modesty’ becomes election issue”.
Gee. Who could have ever seen this coming?
Over to you, Bill Kristol! — or are you too busy these days telling us rubes how to vote in the GOP primaries to revisit this last very public whiff of yours…?
(h/t Allah)
Reuel Marc Gerecht saw it coming and concluded that the distinct possibility of the imposition of such tyrannies by the Isalmists will result in the Arab peoples ultimate rejection of them, making the chance-taking at freedom worth the price, on the theory that there simply isn’t any other way for the Arabs to work these problems out for themselves.
Thing is, sdferr, the glorious alternative to the Egyptian Taliban is socialism with a dash of Nazism. As it stands, Islamism is in the lead.
Some relevant links:
Highlights of Beck’s thesis
Kristol on Beck and Egypt.
Beck on Kristol
Lowry on Kristol on Beck
I suspect that Gerecht is well aware of socialism at work in the Arab world. But it seems to me that the same argument can apply. Hell, we’re dealing with it right here right now, and the outcome is still in doubt.
Yes, but we’re at least a few years behind them in terms of stoking the ovens for the Jews.
But it is okay, because those black tent dresses they will wear in 100 degree plus temperatures breeeeeathe. And it is harder to get finger fucked if you are draped in fabric.
Granted dangers, dangers which the State of Israel is no doubt also aware. Still, putting stop to the decision to change out regimes in Tunisia-Egypt-Yemen-Libya-Syria-and.so.on is surely a difficulty which, after the destruction of the Iraqi tyranny, I reckon a near impossibility. And that isn’t to say that the Obama team hasn’t screwed the pooch from the get go, because they have, but merely that there does remain some possibility of a better order in the Arab world in future. Our problem then (with the removal of the Obama tyranny) will be to work toward that.
It isn’t for us to cause or prevent these regime changes, but we damned well better be taking a sober look at what they’re changing to. That is where we, and particularly some of our leading conservative lights, are failing.
I also can’t help but note how we’ve* cheered regime change in Egypt and bombed our way into it in Libya while we’re silent on the subject in Iran.
*We = Obama’s America
Right. And to the extent I get what that’s about, I’m with you. I’d urge everyone, for instance, to look at Barry Rubin’s brief talk.
Oh, those women! Always fretting over something or other!
Frontpage has a good piece on the new propaganda show “Muslim in America.”
Love the comments at the Lowry link (from 09 Feb 2011) in Pablo’s #2:
I never heard him say anything about not bombing Babylon because of the Antichrist, but as for the Left being involved in (not the sole cause of) the Egyptian uprising? Riots in England? That’s already come to pass.
I do believe the Egyptian communist and national socialist parties were involved as well.
I wonder if people like the guy you quoted use nasal sprays to keep the sand their heads are buried in from drying out their sinuses…
It was a motley crew of Islamists, communists, anarchists, socialists, and labor advocates. How anybody could have ever expected anything good to come out of it is beyond me. I’m very much afraid it won’t be too long before the Sphinx will be due for a “facelift”.
The Owwies have been tossed. Just mulling over the end of their play, I saw a comment to this effect:
But that put me in mind of the idea of returning each day to protest. Would that demonstrate less dedication, and therefore fail to become “so big around the world.”? Which in turn recalled to mind the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo in Argentina who would protest daily, go home and return again. These were socialists, I think.
Or what of the example of other insistent protestors who have done the same, returning again and again, like say, the Ladies in White I think they were called, in Cuba, whose founder has recently deceased? I dunno, they just seem unnecessarily stupid, the Owwies.
The Owwies are mostly there for the weed, it would seem. Not one of them I have heard or read interviewed seems to have brains enough to articulate a passion behind their nebulous goal (?) of taking down The Man, stirred with a little rape and a lot of anti-Semitism. I think they all have daddy issues.
I’d argue that the Owwies are necessarily stupid. If they weren’t stupid they wouldn’t be such useful idiots.
As I recall, one of the Muslim rulers in Egypt’s past attempted to destroy the pyramids because they reminded people of a time before Mohammed (bees pee on him).
In related news, the Turks have recommissioned the Hagia Sofia in Nicea as a mosque. This is where the Nicean Creed — the fundamental tenets of most of Christianity — were hammered out. Granted, it had been a mosque for few hundred years after the conquest, but the modern Turks had turned it into a museum.
It’s a good point Swen, and likely impossible to overcome, anyhow until they show some sign of thinking life.
Meanwhile, who is Obama’s bestest buddy?
They’re very huggy.
You think things are bad now, just wait until Egypt begins to starve.
Except for the fate of their neighbors and the few innocents left in the country, I’d say let them. They’ve taken a land of perpetual fertility and turned it into a wasteland because they’re too effing lazy to put a hoe to the ground.
…they’re too effing lazy to put a hoe to the ground.
Wait — are we still talking about the fretting women? I’m having trouble keeping up.
I blame the Joooos. They do too.
So, how does this Islamist thing play out?
For example, this morning I heard a news report about how the Egyptian army wants to be enshrined as protector of Egypt and pretty much above the law. This because the army is as much a commercial as a military enterprise.
Then I think back to the UAR of 1958 – 1961. Imagine an Islamist union from Tunisia and Libya, through Egypt, joined with Syria and Iran And eventually Iraq, since we’ve abandoned them to their fate. And given that Hamid Karzai is making noises to the effect the Iranians are easier to deal with than we Americans, you can see Afghanistan falling into line. What then of Jordan and Saudi Arabia?
I know, I know, it’d be mostly an Arab thing, so it’d collapse sooner rather than later, but a lot of mischief could be achieved in the meantime.
I surmise that onlookers expect that the greatest burden of mischief will fall on the Muslims [Arabs] themselves, yes? Which, that having been their history in general terms, is supposed to add to the spur. They ask, why have we been left behind? They have had the bad habit of then answering themselves with fairy-tales. Eventually, the non-Islamists will have to figure it out — is the expectation — or else destroy themselves altogether with the Islamists as a credible coherent force (if that hasn’t become the case already) capable of improving their own situation consonant with their desires.
Muslims don’t generally ask themselves “Why have we been left behind?” Instead, they generally ask themselves “Who did this to us?” Convinced they have the perfect system for organizing religion, society, and politics, they’re unable to accept they simple answer to their question is “You shot yourselves in the collective foot.”
So, the hunt for scapegoats, which the Koran helpfully provides: the Jooooooooooos, those sons of apes and pigs.
One hopes they’ll achieve better self-awareness. One does not hold one’s breath.
I dunno batboy, it seems to me that “this” has to be a referent to “we are left behind”, i.e. some — possibly dim — recognition that comparatively, their’s is a miserable lot (like getting their asses handed to them in wars they choose to start, for instance). Then, sure, Who did this to us? is a part of the fairy-tales I’m referring to.