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"‘Secret farm bill’ primed for passage in debt deal"

Because honestly, who needs transparent representative government when a group of lawmakers can get what they want pushed through a “Supercommittee” that is itself an abomination of the legislative process?

Thanks, Speaker Boehner! We couldn’t have created such a permanent governing class without you!

Now. Get your asses in line and support Romney, TEA Party pains in the ass! The GOP has tax revenues it would like to manage for a few years. Chop chop!

37 Replies to “"‘Secret farm bill’ primed for passage in debt deal"”

  1. happyfeet says:

    I for one am good at keeping secrets

  2. bh says:

    Argh. All I got.

  3. sdferr says:

    linked to commodity prices

    Dang. That Wickard v Filburn thinger just won’t go away, will it? These fellas are gonna control the world by hook or by crook. And mostly by crook. So much for dependable rules. Or government, or whatever we call it.

  4. happyfeet says:

    with supercommittee you get the five-year plannings with style and panache of supercommittee!

    very very promising!

    no for reals the congresswhores need to vote against supercommittee just on principle even if it shits out a dazzling 8 carat sapphire

    and even if it means implementing the Boehner defense cuts

  5. leigh says:

    I’m waiting for them to vote themselves snappy uniforms and a sooper secret insignia.

  6. Ernst Schreiber says:

    This is an example of why I won’t be frightened into supporting Romney. If the whole corrupt, unsustainable edifice of benign despotism, American style, is going to collapse, and it is, I’d rather it collapse sooner than later, while there’s still something worth saving.

  7. LBascom says:

    I wonder if it’s been decided yet that the super committee needs a super enforcement arm, ‘cuz of the secrets getting out.

    Seriously, if the DOE gets a SWAT team, the freak’in Super Committee® should definitely get one!

  8. sdferr says:

    When do the Thanksgiving turkeys go on sale as grocery store loss leaders? Boehner and Reid confer.

  9. bergerbilder says:

    Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support? You can’t even grow a peanut without a permit, and the amount of acreage is strictly controlled. These policies, when combined with a regional drought, have now caused a tripling of peanut prices. That’s okay for me – I like pecans better anyway – but it’s going to lead to more people using lard instead of peanut oil to fry their fish and turkeys, and we all know what happens when more lard is used.

  10. bergerbilder says:

    Oh, when I first saw this, I figured it would be a bill about the “secret farms” in the Daniel Boone national forest.

  11. dicentra says:

    It was almost amusing yesterday to hear Hewitt lose his mind over Toomey and that other guy proposing caps on the mortgage and charitable deductions.

    I tweeted

    @hughhewitt Hugh, Hugh, Hugh. Don’t you know that Lucy will ALWAYS pull back the ball? #hhrs

    and within seconds he said “Lucy and the ball! No…”

    So he was reading and I WAS RIGHT!

    Foolish, foolish, optimists. Like firemen who can’t spot a fire because they don’t believe in arsonists.

  12. Squid says:

    Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support?

    Because if they are not appeased, they shall inflict another Jimmy Carter upon the rest of us. And nobody wants that.

  13. dicentra says:

    Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support?

    Need?

    NEED!!!

    Dude, it’s a racket. They only “need” to keep it going.

  14. Spiny Norman says:

    So, how much did Monsanto, Archer-Daniels-Midland, et al pay to push this through? It’s Big Agribusiness that benefits from these farm bills, not “small farmers”.

    Farm subsidies are “corporate welfare” at its most blatant.

    Sorry for belaboring the obvious, but this always leaves me grinding my teeth in disgust…

  15. LBascom says:

    “Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support?”

    Because the government support they enjoy now is insufficient to fully control production?

    What are ya, some kin of anti-fascist?

    Hater…

  16. Matt says:

    Id disagree with you Ernst. Romney is not the anti-christ. He may be what we’re stuck with. I am in no hurry to see our country “go under” to prove a point. Understand, like many of you, I have a serious stake in this economy and seeing it improved. I cannot financially afford to watch a democrat undermine this country for another four years. Romney will do that, Obama will not. Its just that simple. Is Romney the perfect GOP candidate? No, he’s not. But there is no perfect GOP candidate- there is only one seriously unfuckingly perfect democratic candidate and HE (not Romney) is destroying our little country at a quick pace. As an example- I despite Newt Gingrich. He is a very smart man, yes, but I’ve met him several times, my parents worked on his campaign, a girl I dated was on his staff as Speaker – he is selfish, vain and can never admit he’s wrong. He’s done incredibly dumb things to pander to the left so he can remain relevant (environmental stuff especially) and has a bad habit of shooting his mouth off at bad times. He also basically was such a douche that his entire campaign staff left him while he went off to vacation.

    However, I will absolutely positively show up at the polls to vote for Gingrich. I’ll contribute to his campaign, I’ll volunteer, I’ll put a bumper sticker on my car, I’ll get the word out. I will hide any flaws I know he has and emphasize only the good parts about Gingrich. I’ll do all that because as much as I don’t care for Gingrich and think he’s incredibly flawed as a person and candidate, Newt Gingrich is much more likely to turn this country from its current destructive path. So would Mitt Romney. So would Herman Cain. So would Rick Perry. So would Rick Santorum. So would Michelle Bachman. So would Sarah Palin. ANYBODY is better than Obama for 4 years. Even Ron Paul or Jon Hunstman would have my vote over the marxist in chief.

    I only say that because I keep hearing this shit about how Republicans won’t go to the polls if their choice for nominee isn’t the choice. Man the fuck up. Obama is worse, wayyyy worse, and if you want to see an example of people throwing a hissy about the lack of a perfect candidate and the results of the purity test, see 2008, McCain, John, who ended up as the nominee because there was basically nobody left once the right AND left got ahold of the other candidates.

  17. Pablo says:

    Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support?

    To keep up with the sugar producers.

  18. Squid says:

    …if you want to see an example of people throwing a hissy about the lack of a perfect candidate and the results of the purity test, see 2008, McCain, John…

    Why am I supposed to learn a lesson from 2008? What can’t the GOP learn a lesson from 2008? Hell, we reminded ’em again in 2010! Are they so fucking thick that we need to pound the issue home a third time? Fine!

    Just because I don’t wanna drink from Obama’s colostomy bag, doesn’t mean I wanna eat Romney’s shit sandwich. I am a free man, and I have zero obligation to support a party that has expressed its contempt for my rights as a free man at every opportunity.

    They will get my vote when they earn it. Not one day before. Threatening me with economic doom should I not go along with the program just makes me dig my heels in deeper, because I do not negotiate with terrorists. And that’s what your argument amounts to.

  19. leigh says:

    Well said, Squid.

  20. Carin says:

    Can anyone here briefly explain why peanut farmers need more government support?

    Duh, no farms, no food. So simple it’s on bumperstickers all around me.

    If you’re against subsides, you’re obviously against farmers.

    Why the hate?

  21. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m not saying Romney is the anti-christ Matt. I’m saying that if we continue to support guys who want to tinker around the edges of the big(ger) government status quo before kicking the can down the road for the next guy to deal with, by the time we catch up to the can there won’t be anything worth saving because there won’t be anybody left who remembers any other way of doing things except for leaving it to the technocrats, bureaucrats and functionaries of All Your Problems Belong To Us. I’m saying that I’d rather there be reckoning while large portions of this country continue to function than to face that reckoning when the “problem” with Kansas is that a majority of Kansans think the exact same things that a majority of New Yorkers and Californians think.

  22. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Are they so fucking thick that we need to pound the issue home a third time? Fine

    The tragedy is that the establican wing of the ruling class think the exact same thing about you.

    No you can’t haz cheezburger!

    fucking peasant

  23. John Bradley says:

    Just because I don’t wanna drink from Obama’s colostomy bag, doesn’t mean I wanna eat Romney’s shit sandwich. I am a free man, and I have zero obligation to support a party that has expressed its contempt for my rights as a free man at every opportunity.

    I’m thinking of having that tattooed to my chest…

  24. LBascom says:

    Matt, I was right there with ya for your first two paragraphs, but then you lost me.

    Personally, I would vote for a soup can as an alternative to Obama, but it’s a difficult choice for me. It ain’t a matter of maning -up, it’s a matter of principles, and sticking by them isn’t the hallmark of the un-manly.

    Hell, I was in the same place with Meg Whitman, refused to support her, refused to let dem positions under the republican banner ruin California . Screw that, when California fails it will be because of dem positions and democrats, not because of three terms of “republican” governors, all doing the same thing Moonbeam is doing.

    I can totally see the reasoning of people that say they won’t vote for Romney. Arguably, Obamacare is the biggest threat to our Republic, both economically and philosophically. It MUST be reversed if we are to even pretend we are a free people. Fucking Romneycare was the poster child for Obamacare, and the guy still defends it. He mouths federalism, and the difference between state and fed, but still, forcing people to buy insurance is as close to applying mark of the beast as anything I can imagine.

    Having said all that, I will vote for the republican opposing Obama, because Obama isn’t just another statist. Obama is a statist that is malevolent towards the USA. He won’t destroy America because of misguided ideas about governance. He will destroy America because he wants to.

    That distinction changes things for me, but I can still see why someone would refuse to vote Romney.

  25. agile_dog says:

    I’m thinking of having that tattooed to my chest…

    Well, it is a little too long for a bumpersticker – will your chest give it the same kind of exposure?

    Living in Taxachusetts, I can firmly declare I am in the “Anyone but Mitt” camp. And I expressed my utter disdain for Newt elsewhere. So my choices are limited – I hope Herman survives the attempted lynching by the press.

  26. dicentra says:

    I’m saying that if we continue to support guys who want to tinker around the edges of the big(ger) government status quo before kicking the can down the road for the next guy to deal with, by the time we catch up to the can there won’t be anything worth saving because there won’t be anybody left who remembers any other way of doing things except for leaving it to the technocrats

    If you’d said this in 1985 or 1995 or even 2005 it might have made sense to speak of future consequences, but that day has arrived. There IS nobody left in Washington who remembers any other way of doing whatever it is they’re doing, and a goodly chunk of the population has lost its ability to demand freedom over safety.

    By the time the 2013 inaguration arrives, I don’t know what kind of country POTUS might be presiding over.

  27. Pablo says:

    Living in Taxachusetts, I can firmly declare I am in the “Anyone but Mitt” camp. And I expressed my utter disdain for Newt elsewhere.

    Living just a tad south of you, I’m well aware that my GOP POTUS vote in the general amounts to spitting in the wind and thus it wouldn’t bother me a bit to just stay home. But that wouldn’t be fair to the down ticket races, and it will deprive me of the opportunity to tell the GOP to go fuck itself should it nominate Romney. I might even take a picture of my ballot and send it to the RNC.

  28. Crawford says:

    Because the government support they enjoy now is insufficient to fully control production?

    ISTR in the last few years there was a bill passed through Congress giving the feds the authority to stop food shipments in the US. Not for reasons of safety, but apparently “just because”.

    Call me a raging paranoid, but my reading of recent history tells me that the primary cause of famine in the last 100 years has been governments. I do not like the extent to which government wants to control our food. The judge that declared you have no right to grow and consume your own crops. The woman whose farm was raided on the anonymous tips of animal-rights fanatics. Just read a story of a woman who was hosting a dinner party at her farm and had a “health department inspector” attempt to shut it down. The granola munchers whine and bitch and moan about it being “big corporations” behind it all, but they never seem to grasp that if big government didn’t have the power to do what the supposed dictatorial corporations want, then those corps would have to pound sand.

    And it’s all a part and parcel with “healthcare” reform and all the rest of the crap. They consider us little more than livestock, think the herd has gotten too big, and intend to thin it quite a bit. Since we’re not apparently willing to take the European demicide-by-birthrate option, and they can’t seem to attract enough Mexicans to a crashing economy to replace the population, well, perhaps they’ve chosen the Holodomor as their route to eugenics.

  29. LBascom says:

    Crawford, you’re a raging paranoid.

    What? You asked me to!

  30. cranky-d says:

    You keep going with that argument, Matt. I’m sure it will work wonders.

    I will not vote for Romney.

  31. LBascom says:

    Heh, you know what wasn’t a secret? Conan “pushing the envelope”.

    It’s almost like the entire MSM is controlled by one entity or something…

  32. cranky-d says:

    Starvation is definitely caused by governments. Famine can still be caused by acts of G-d, but governments have their hands so far into agriculture that they could be a big factor in famine as well.

  33. Joe says:

    Can’t these Senators and Congresscritters just play Farmville all day and leave us all the fuck alone?

  34. Swen says:

    @ 18. Well said Squid, very well said!

  35. Swen says:

    Here’s why I won’t vote for Romney: So long as Obama, or any Democrat, is in the White House, the Republican establishment is obligated to put up at least a token resistance. Should a RINO like Romney win, it will provide the Republican establishment with a fig leaf and they’ll be right back to Business As Usual.

  36. John Bradley says:

    Indeed. I’m positive that if McCain had been elected in 2008, we’d be in much the same place we are now, only with the glistening sheen of Bi-Partisanship… because the one thing partisans of both stripes can agree on is screwing over those poor dumb non-ruling-class rubes at every opportunity.

    Barack Obama was the best thing that ever could have happened for Conservatives, Classical Liberals, and anyone else interested in ratcheting back the wild overreach of the federal government. There wouldn’t be a TEA party without the wild excesses of the Pelosi/Reid/Obama troika.

  37. John Bradley says:

    McCain would’ve just moved in the same directions, a little slower and pragmatically, keeping “the frog” over a very low flame.

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