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"WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: They Got Obamacare – Now They Want the 2nd Amendment"

For what it’s worth:

You have people right now within the party taking this moment to once again push for gun control and using the scandal – Fast and Furious, using that to do so. They are saying these things openly. It’s astonishing to me. They are very confident – or very afraid. I think it’s fear that is now motivating them. When you have Feinstein coming right out and saying we need enhanced gun control because of Fast and Furious – days away from the Attorney General giving sworn testimony…something is up. Something big. She is attempting some serious damage control, trying to get out in front of the story.

We’re living through an attempted coup. And our major worry seems to be how well Herman Cain’s staff is handling suggestions that he once made a pass at a woman. Who waited 16 years to hold a press conference about it.

No wonder we’re so well and truly fucked.

51 Replies to “"WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: They Got Obamacare – Now They Want the 2nd Amendment"”

  1. Joe says:

    Ouch

    It is possible Herman Cain is lying and if that is the case, he is toast. Let’s just give the conservative guy the benefit of doubt and not let the Lefty Media do summary executions of our candidates. I think that is what Rush (and Jeff) have been saying. I am not going to wait a week and let Cain hang in the wind. I am going to call bullshit on this and wait to see the proof Cain did something wrong. So far I have seen no proof.

  2. cranky-d says:

    Our “representatives” have already admitted they want to go after guns again, because of those guns that got into the wrong hands after the ATF asked the gun dealers to sell them into the wrong hands.

    It makes sense if you hit yourself on the head with a hammer until blood comes out of your ears. Maybe.

  3. Ernst Schreiber says:

    What’s it worth? Not much. And if we are well and truly fucked, it’s no more than we deserve.

  4. cranky-d says:

    As far as what Joe is pointing to, I consider Ace to be a lost cause as far as politics are concerned. My last comment to him was a suggestion that he just put up a Romney for President banner on his site and be done with it.

  5. Pablo says:

    All I can say is “I hope you like 00 buckshot.”

  6. Joe says:

    That interview that Jeff links is interesting. Is it real or not? I think the suggestion that Fast & Furious was intended to go after the 2nd Amendment is real.

    But the interview brings up Herman Cain too. It is just sad how so many on the right are not defending Herman Cain on charges such as this. If it turns out he is guilty, it is still better to have initially defended him. So far, I see a man getting slandered and liabled. A conservative man.

    If our side will not give him the benefit of doubt…well what can you say?

  7. Abe Froman says:

    I like Ace, but he’s the kind of guy who you’d want to shoot in the face if you were in a boat together that was taking on water. He’s not a Rino so much as he’s a little bitch.

  8. mojo says:

    “It is possible Herman Cain is lying…”

    Other possibilities:
    Gloria Allred is a mendacious, unethical ambulance chaser & Democrat hit woman
    Somebody doesn’t want Herman Cain in the race
    The only accuser willing to come forward (16 years later) is a quasi-“tea partier” from Chicago
    One of the anonymous accuser’s mouthpiece quickly steps up to “corroborate”, although his client will not even make specific charges.

    Pardon me if the overpowering smell of rotten bullshit makes me a bit testy.

  9. Abe Froman says:

    It really does seem like yesterday that a woman went on national TV to say that Bill Clinton raped her and it was greeted with a collective yawn.

  10. JD says:

    Gloria Allred is creating a cottage industry of trotting out victims of Team R misconduct decades after the not-fact.

  11. JD says:

    As to Fast and Furious, this us playing out EXACTLY how our host predicted.

  12. ThomasD says:

    He’s not a Rino so much as he’s a little bitch.

    Yeah his blather on the Penn State fiasco sure puts in in stark perspective.

  13. LBascom says:

    I saw a commercial on TV last night for Henry Rifles. The cowboy lever action ones. It was pretty cool and I’ve never seen one on TV before. I mean, I wasn’t even watching a gun related program!

    Oh, and Ace just banned me.

  14. newrouter says:

    “, and Ace just banned me.”

    little green aceballs

  15. happyfeet says:

    I’m sorry you got banned Mr. lee I know the pain all too well

    but you just gotta keep your chin up

  16. LBascom says:

    Thanks hap. The pain is manageable.

    I’ve only commented in one other thread there in the last year or so, so what I did is banned him back.

    Yep, I deleted his bookmark.

    Fuck’em swordfish style is what I say.

  17. Crawford says:

    I like Ace, but he’s the kind of guy who you’d want to shoot in the face if you were in a boat together that was taking on water.

    That’s because he would tell you that the water is SUPPOSED to be on the inside of the hull, and only an ignorant anti-intellectual would say otherwise. He won’t explain his reasoning or cite sources, but odds are he got that “fact” from a mouth-piece for a campaign he’s desperately trying to work for.

    Don’t worry, LBascom, you’re in good company. I’m “banned” as well because I dared challenge his willful ignorance on matters of firearms.

    As to the Insider — I’m leery of those articles. They seem entirely too pat, too in-line with what conservatives believe about the administration. And, frankly, any more I doubt even a door-to-door program of firearm confiscation would rouse the nation.

  18. happyfeet says:

    when he bans you does he leave a comment? Or do you just find out when you try and comment but can’t? Banning people is very passive-aggressive I think and if I had a blog I’d never ban anybody not even nishi.

  19. Crawford says:

    Oh, and what’s REALLY fucking annoying me about this campaign is the sheer nastiness JUST AMONG THE REPUBLICANS. Ace’s little bitch-rant about Cain wasn’t just “it doesn’t look like he’s the best candidate, sorry, here’s why you should support one of the others”, it was “YOU GODDAMN HICKS ARE MORONS FOR WANTING TO SUPPORT SUCH A BRAIN-DEAD NOBODY”. That was his line of “argument” against Palin, as well. And it’s not just him — I see it on other sites, too.

    Are Republicans so convinced they have the next election in the bag that they’ll shit on each other to get to the top of the pile? Because, so help me God, if the choice is Romney-Whoever and a year of abuse from the so-called “betters”, then I will fucking stay home, damn the down-ticket. I get why Democrats fight so viciously — they’re lined up for hand-outs and favors, and delivering their grievance-group’s votes gets them in line. But aren’t we supposed to be for government doing less? So what’s the payoff of getting “your” guy elected so nastily?

  20. happyfeet says:

    Cain and Palin are night and day

  21. LBascom says:

    “when he bans you does he leave a comment?”

    Does who leave a comment?

  22. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Ace

  23. happyfeet says:

    meaning does he leave a comment telling you you’re banned and why

  24. newrouter says:

    “Are Republicans so convinced they have the next election in the bag that they’ll shit on each other to get to the top of the pile?”

    see the bitching about not taking the senate in 2010.

  25. McGehee says:

    I don’t.

    On my site.

    Which almost none of y’all ever visit.

    […]

    I haven’t banned any of you guys, have I?

  26. McGehee says:

    Well, one of you guys has visited now. He’s my new best friend.

  27. geoffb says:

    Jan 31 2011 letter from Sen Feinstein to President Obama.

    Dear Mr. President:

    I write to urge you to review enforcement of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) provision, 18 U.S. Code Section 925(d)(3), which prohibits the importation of firearms except those that are “generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.” Previous Administrations have used this authority to limit the importation of military-style assault firearms, and it could once again be a helpful tool in preventing the gun trafficking that is fueling the horrific gun violence in Mexico, the Southwest border region, and many cities and towns across our nation.

    Since December 2006, more than 30,000 people have been killed in Mexico in drug-related violence. Every day, there are reports of ruthless and brutal gun murders as Mexican drug trafficking organizations (DTOs) fight for control of smuggling routes and terrorize anyone who might get in their way. The DTOs have killed mayors, judges, and other officials who have tried to stop the carnage. They have even targeted young people, murdering 14 teenagers at a birthday party in Ciudad Juarez in October of last year.

    Regrettably, firearms trafficked from the United States help fuel the violence in Mexico. Of the firearms recovered by the Government of Mexico and traced through ATF in the past 4 years, more than 50,000 were manufactured in, or imported into, the United States prior to being recovered in Mexico. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and other federal, state and local law enforcement are working to stop this gun trafficking and related violence, but they need additional help. The Administration recently took an important step forward with ATF’s initiative to collect information on multiple sales of semi-automatic assault rifles from Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. I applaud you for this initiative. However, much more must be done….

  28. newrouter says:

    @28 verrrry interesting its like they got a play book going

  29. LBascom says:

    “does he leave a comment telling you you’re banned and why

    I the comments section, Ace took a snip from the first sentence of a comment I made(one of 3 or 4 total comments, out of 760 or so others), and pronounced there would be no sense in talking to me further.

    When I tried to respond I got a banned IP message, with the suggestion I could email the proprietor if I wanted to.

    I don’t.

  30. LBascom says:

    damn, I bet I did ,/i> again. I hate that.

  31. […] awarded to Jeff Goldstein, Meistersinger of Protein Wisdom, for nailing in three sentences what ails this country [Warning: Language]: We’re living through an attempted coup. And our major […]

  32. Golem14 says:

    I got that same message when I was banned at Ace’s (might have been a server glitch, since I hadn’t posted anything recently). Never did anything about it, though.

  33. happyfeet says:

    oh. I’ve never tried to engage Mr. Ace as far as I can remember except maybe in agreement. He’s written several sensible posts what people have linked over the years.

  34. newrouter says:

    “Cain and Palin are night and day”

    or

    Ebony & Ivory

  35. Hey, McGehee — Saw your post about “human race”. Been there, done that. Have a free poster

    http://tinyurl.com/cfhm9ps

  36. So what’s the payoff of getting “your” guy elected so nastily?

    Like college professors, bloggers fight so viciously because the stakes are so small: “Yay! I won Twitter!”

  37. New Router: Salt’n’Pepa!

  38. Mike LaRoche says:

    little green ace balls

    Yep. As far as I’m concerned, Ace’s jump-the-shark moment came the day after Election Day last year. That day, instead of celebrating the historic victory of conservatism across the board, he put up a whiny post bitching about how Mike Castle had been unjustly treated by the Republican voters of Delaware. Just sad.

  39. geoffb says:

    Holder to accuse investigators of playing Fast and Furious politics, call for gun control
    […]
    “Today, I would like to correct some of the inaccurate — and irresponsible — accusations surrounding Fast and Furious,” Holder’s prepared testimony reads. “Some of the overheated rhetoric might lead you to believe that this local, Arizona-based operation was somehow the cause of the epidemic of gun violence in Mexico. In fact, Fast and Furious was a flawed response to, not the cause of, the flow of illegal guns from the United States into Mexico.”

    In his testimony, Holder also advocates for new gun-control laws that he says would have halted, or at least prevented, Operation Fast and Furious. Holder echoes California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s comments from last week, when she argued that stricter gun laws would have stopped law enforcement agents from facilitating the sale of guns to Mexican drug cartels.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/07/holder-to-accuse-investigators-of-playing-fast-and-furious-politics-call-for-gun-control/#ixzz1d4zB1B2F

    So “Help stop us before we sell guns to Mexicans again?”

  40. LBascom says:

    They should sell guns at the White House souvenir shop. That would make the world a better place.

    Plus, visiting dignitaries would get better presents.

  41. SDN says:

    So we have a confirmed conspiracy to create gun violence by breaking existing law and then using the result to undermine the Second Amendment.

    Can someone explain how this doesn’t violate their oaths to uphold the Constitution?

  42. Jeff G. says:

    They don’t take the oath seriously.

  43. ironpacker says:

    Obviously, the sole purpose of “Fast&Furious” was to set the stage for stricter Federal gun laws. The fact that it blew up in their faces isn’t going to stop them. In the progessive world results are always trumped by intentions

    Even though the MBM is providing cover by not covering this, Obama and Holder will have look elsewhere for their “Reichstag Fire”.

  44. Pellegri says:

    @28:

    can we

    please get this woman out of office

    i don’t want her representing my state anymore

  45. Ernst Schreiber says:

    So “Help stop us before we sell guns to Mexicans again?”

    More like, if you’d have let us have out way in the first place, we wouldn’t have had to circumvent the law in order to try to get our way.

    I think this qualifies as pounding the table.

  46. […] sums it all up nicely: We’re living through an attempted coup. And our major worry seems to be how well Herman Cain’s […]

  47. Mueller says:

    They don’t take the oath seriously.

    This is more like one of those, “You fucked up. You trusted us.” kinda deals.

  48. […] about how we should react to the accusations against Herman Cain. And in that round-up, Mike cites Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom:We’re living through an attempted coup. And our major worry seems to be how well Herman Cain’s […]

  49. […] To sum it up I’ll quote Protein Wisdom: (which quoted my article on Sharon Bialek this week – thanks so much!) We’re living through an attempted coup. And our major worry seems to be how well Herman Cain’s staff is handling suggestions that he once made a pass at a woman. Who waited 16 years to hold a press conference about it. […]

  50. […] at Protein Wisdom seems to have the quote that everyone is using as a top notch summation of this whole ridiculous […]

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