He also suggests that multiple complaints suggest a pattern of sexual harassment. “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire,” he noted.
Best I can tell, the question over the nature of the type of settlement — the former NRA Board head said he thought these severance agreements, a fact also reported by the NYT — and the suggestion that Cain knew specifics of the allegation, are the only two big takeaways from this news conference.
Well, that, and this lawyer just essentially suggested that to be accused of something twice means you are more than likely guilty of what you’ve been accused of.
— Which, I suppose, means Mr Bennett is now officially a douche.
I expect the Cain people will reply in short order.
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update: “Statement from the National Restaurant Association”:
“We have seen the statement Joel Bennett released earlier today on behalf of his client, a former employee of the Association. The Association consented to the release of that statement, at the request of Mr. Bennett’s client.
“Based upon the information currently available, we can confirm that more than a decade ago, in July 1999, Mr. Bennett’s client filed a formal internal complaint, in accordance with the Association’s existing policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment. Mr. Herman Cain disputed the allegations in the complaint. The Association and Mr. Bennett’s client subsequently entered into an agreement to resolve the matter, without any admission of liability. Mr. Cain was not a party to that agreement. The agreement contains mutual confidentiality obligations. Notwithstanding the Association’s ongoing policy of maintaining the privacy of all personnel matters, we have advised Mr. Bennett that we are willing to waive the confidentiality of this matter and permit Mr. Bennett’s client to comment. As indicated in Mr. Bennett’s statement, his client prefers not to be further involved with this matter and we will respect her decision.
“The Association has robust policies designed to ensure that employees with concerns may bring them forward for prompt investigation and resolution, without risk of retaliation. The Association is fully committed to equal employment opportunity and to an environment that is free from any discrimination or harassment.”
The fact that an agreement was reached with no assignation of liability tends to undercut Mr Bennett’s suggestion that the settlement was for “sexual harassment.”
We also now know that the accuser was released to come forward but chose not to.
So. Six days into this “scandal,” we now know the following: An woman, who wishes to remain anonymous, filed an internal harassment complaint against Herman Cain; Cain disputed the Claim and recused himself from any investigation; an agreement was reached in which no liability was assigned to Cain, as mutually agreed; the agreement contained confidentiality obligations, and Cain wasn’t party to the agreement.
Thanks, Politico! What we have is a garden variety sexual harassment he said/she said that resulted in a settlement decided upon by the NRA.
BOMBSHELL!
Mr. Bennett’s client has sick perverted fantasies about older black men is the takeaway I thought
Can we get a transcript?
Jeff has just accused Mr. Bennett of being a douche. I also accuse Mr. Bennett of being a douche.
By unanimous vote by two accusers, we therefore find that Mr. Bennett has been proven to be a douche.
I think I could get used to this new system. I think my wife and I are going to have to accuse her boss of being sexist because he hasn’t doubled her salary lately.
Just to bring it to the newest Cain thread:
I kinda live commented…
Lawyer lied. He said that ‘Cain was fully aware of the allegations involved in the complaint” then he stated that ‘he believed he was no longer there when we filed the complaint.’ Then “I would be astounded if the complaint was not brought to his attention.”
The lawyer’s statements are no more precise than Cain’s… I don’t remember I don’t recall.
Still he said she said as there is no ‘recollection of witnesses’ on the part of the lawyer, but he maintains they are true because there was more than one allegation and besides we didn’t investigate it and just settled. So she waited til he was no longer there and accused someone in absentia of claims and got a settlement… seems to me like the NRA were pushovers.
It was a non disclosure and non disparage agreement.
I’m starting to believe that we’re seeing something entirely new, the Wookie offense.
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Cain is wrong about one thing. This isn’t a high-tech lynching.
More like a virtual cross-burning on the metaphorical lawn of his reputation.
Damn it. The Chewbacca offense, that should be.
Try and say something clever and this is what happens.
I can haz Friday night scotches now?
And to enhance with what Sdferr posted on the other thread:
More like a virtual cross-burning on the metaphorical lawn of his reputation stoked with straw men.
related
It’s hard to know what to say about Rep. Gifford’s desires. I wonder how the district will understand their own?
bh, it’s five o’clock somewhere… which, I need to go get dressed for the club’s cocktail hour and dinner. Nothing fancy – jeans and a polo, we’re not one of those clubs. Though I might show a little cleavage for as to cement that blonde bimbo cumslut hoochie clueless housewife what golfs trope. Cause that’s the way I roll.
I wonder how the district will understand their own?
Right of Return perhaps? Or does plebiscite and annexation better capture the spirit of the thing?
It’s been kind of funny watching Jeff trying to help the post turtle Walt Gilbert get down off his pole, with Gilbert insisting he’s not ready to get down yet.
somehow I feel vaguely discomfitted. Management owes me money!
Swiped from Ace’s:
NRA statement:
“We have seen the statement Joel Bennett released earlier today on behalf of his client, a former employee of the Association. The Association consented to the release of that statement, at the request of Mr. Bennett’s client.
“Based upon the information currently available, we can confirm that more than a decade ago, in July 1999, Mr. Bennett’s client filed a formal internal complaint, in accordance with the Association’s existing policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment. Mr. Herman Cain disputed the allegations in the complaint. The Association and Mr. Bennett’s client subsequently entered into an agreement to resolve the matter, without any admission of liability. Mr. Cain was not a party to that agreement. The agreement contains mutual confidentiality obligations. Notwithstanding the Association’s ongoing policy of maintaining the privacy of all personnel matters, [mine] we have advised Mr. Bennett that we are willing to waive the confidentiality of this matter and permit Mr. Bennett’s client to comment. As indicated in Mr. Bennett’s statement, his client prefers not to be further involved with this matter and we will respect her decision.
And now…. the woman declines to “relive the incident” or ask to be released from the confidentiality agreement, quoth her mouthpiece.
Anybody still think this is serious? Because I have this bridge in Brooklyn…
Not funny for me. That dude is about as set in his convictions that Cain is a serial rapist and liar as anyone I’ve ever seen. Impervious to facts.
To confess, I’m laughing very hard. At Walt, mind you. But still. His little legs just wave and wave, stroking the air like palm trees in a hurricane.
I’m going to repeat myself.
Haven’t others noticed over the years that they left makes deft use of the various agreements, conventions, rules, regulations, laws, of confidentiality and privilege to make attacks where defense cannot be done because of those secrecy agreements? They have done this for decades.
I hope and pray that Cain manages to lead them all into a place where they fall down a long shaft to nowhere. Ratherize them all.
I’d be careful with that talk, Ernst. Seeing as how you’re giving us all second hand cancer with that cigar of yours.
That just feels actionable.
Random pre-Scotch thought, someone ought to consider putting together a bit of a cheat sheet for this. Like, agreement vs settlement. That sort of thing. I need an executive summary for I am slow-witted and constantly distracted.
It’s sort of an odd feeling to invest effort into being incredulous about the accusations while also not caring one bit if he blew his load on his secretary’s keyboard. Dead girl, live boy or me no give a shit.
Another random pre-Scotch thought, why is it that I don’t see these tweets from Jeff even though I’m following him?
When I look at his feed I see it all but it’s not showing up in my default timeline view.
Impervious to facts.
The
ForceFrankfurter Schule is strong in this one!Unless it’s Jamesean pragmatism as channeled via Georges Sorel.
…consider putting together a bit of a cheat sheet for this. Like, agreement vs settlement. That sort of thing.
Here’s a start:
“If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table.”
politico was pounding the chicken
Well, there goes Ace’s deal to be the new Car Fox
– Well it’s Friday, and after a decade of “dancing with the rats” non-dancing, cleavage is a fine alternate.
– So I’m not about to sue anyone.
bh, I make it a point to never smoke online. I’m considerate like that.
But I was under the impression that management was running a high class joint here. I expect my cleavage to come with stockings and 3″ heels, not jeans and a polo.
This “Walt Gilbert” seems to have tunnel vision goggles crafted from carbon nanotubes. And a Herman Cain Mind-Reading Helmet® by RonCo™
Hehs all around.
You buying?
‘Cause if you’re not, that means I have to drive all the way to the nearest package store, which is in the next county, to get my own.
And that’s just unfair. #OccupyBH’sLiquorCabinet
That hack Hannity just had the bigger hack Beckel on. Beckel said something about it being hard to believe the Cain campaign wasn’t better prepared or had a better response to so serious a charge.
Had to turn the radio off before I scared the kids.
I do stockings and 3″ heels but only one day a year, and today ain’t that day. Besides it’s supposed to be in the 40s tonight – that polo has… possibilities. Until I don a jacket.
Love watching the machinations of Ace’s mind-gerbils at work, though. Any slower and he’s gonna have to be fitted for Depends.
Here’s what I am/was thinking:
If this were a trumped up bullshit charge designed to cadge money out of the NRA, we might expect an accuser to file falsely, but then would not re-open the case for the media.
So based on her apparently talking to Politico, I thought at least she really believed there was a strong sexual harassment case here.
But now she says “Nevermind,” essentially.
So now I’m thinking her claim was trumped up.
What a way to get ahead of that curveball, champ! Shall we judge your response to the story with the same standards that you applied to Cain?
#OccupyBH’sLiquorCabinet
The thirsty united
shall be quenched!
And now I’m off for reals…that scotch and a nice prime rib is calling.
it’s supposed to be in the 40s tonight – that polo has… possibilities.
There’s that uncomfortable feeling again.
Why oh why do you HarrASS me so?
Heh, no need. I can hardly give it all away.
Somewhere along the line I started giving booze rather than Omaha steaks or nice pens as business gifts and everyone has reciprocated. Gave two cases of booze to the church festival this summer and I already have another two cases sitting in my pantry.
Makes Christmas and birthday shopping for my brother super easy. So I got that going for me.
I don’t believe she ever talked to Politico, did she?
The greedy and mostly drunk Irish control the big liquor cabinet! Occupy Big Liquor!!
I’ll see ya’ll at the bar…
“Love watching the machinations of Ace’s mind-gerbils at work, though. Any slower and he’s gonna have to be fitted for Depends.”
Ace went off the rails when Palin came on the scene. He’s 100% rino-bot now. Pretty sad. That used to be a really fun place to hang out.
BC
I don’t believe they ever spoke to her, ever saw any documents, or knew anything specifically.
FLAMING SKULL AT ACE’S
ONE CAIN ACCUSER SAYS SHE HAS CHOSEN “NOT TO RELIVE” THE DETAILS OF THE INCIDENT’ SEES “NO VALUE” IN TALKING ABOUT IT PRIVATELY OR PUBLICLY
Ace concludes: “So now I’m thinking her claim was trumped up.”
You don’t say.
I don’t believe they ever spoke to her, ever saw any documents, or knew anything specifically.
90 stories this week (according to Limbaugh).
7 named reporters (to the best of my incomplete knowledge).
And to think I once thought you had to be in academe to be exposed to an orgy of mental masturbation like this.
Ace concludes: “So now I’m thinking her claim was trumped up.”
You don’t say.
I don’t refer to him as Rabbit solely because Eeyore was already taken.
That politicalmath guy had a good line on that, Ernst. Wait one second…
And to think I once thought you had to be in academe to be exposed to an orgy of mental masturbation like this.
Now I see it all so clearly. In the weeks and months to come, any of us who proclaim Cain innocent ’til proven guilty are going to be called “know-nothing flat-earth denialists” because we don’t agree with a “consensus of experts.”
The Merlin has over 100 different scotches. Maybe one of them will make the world make sense…
I think I’d like to meet this Merlin you speak of, Squid.
I think this will pass fairly quickly it’s not like it captured the imagination of the country or anything
we’re still talking about that sexual harassment thing yes?
Cain should tell us her name.
It could be something worse, but it could be: asking about one’s social life, winking, giving gifts, standing close, making flattering remarks, using pet names, staring, smiling, holding a handshake too long, etc., etc.
Women just hate that stuff unless they don’t.
Cain should tell us her name.
No he shouldn’t. He should say that they’re going to respect her wishes and will not discuss the matter further.
but we should know who she is cause she’s clearly racist
Wow, hf. You missed your calling as a judge in Salem MA by only 320 years or so.
Hmmmph. Politico is getting too many hits and notoriety for their crass actions; much like Joe McGinniss, they are reaping financial rewards for this pack of lies.
Just Don’t Click: #StiflePolitico
‘feets, here’s an image that better suits you. Lose that gay-ass yellow thinger what looks gay-ass and gay.
Thomas Sowell. Listen, listen, listen. Especially to Paul Ryan’s larger view of his hope for the election and Sowell’s “I don’t know.” Because it is the question to be answered.
Jeff G.
When you have one of these arguments with some other person on twitter could you retweet their comments so they show up in the PW feed. In this exchange I only got yours not what the others were saying. I suppose I could follow them to get it but don’t like following putzes and pushing their stats up.
Or perhaps I’m doing something wrong and that’s why I don’t see them.
Link
“High Tech Lynching”
Geoff, I’ve clicked on an otherwise invisible arrow in the top right corner of Jeff’s posts, which arrow shows up when the cursor hovers over the post in question. Then the post to which Jeff is replying appears in a box on the right side of the page.
that gay-ass yellow thinger what looks gay-ass and gay
If the slewfoots, kismet.
On the web and in certain Twitter apps it’s possible to click to the rest of the conversation. On the web, for example, hover in the upper-right corner of a reply tweet that has an empty word balloon and click the “greater-than” thingie that appears.
I’ve yet to see a ‘Twitter’ box on pw, because of the fine work of NoScript, AdBlock or Ghostery; one of ’em has deprived me of the pleasure.
What’s the name of the agent, so I can try to unblock it?
i use no script and see it though more tweets still points to 404 error
I’ve turned everything off; still not visible. Left or right sidebar? Top or bottom?
Oh. Nevermind. I was looking for a structured box with scrolling tweets, not for what’s there now that I look for it. The understated tweet-view thinger. My fault.
Sheesh.
Now hovering…
…
Jeff, make that ‘view more tweets’ non-working link drop right off into your Twitter page.
If anyone wants to catch all of Jeff’s tweets, put this in your RSS reader:
http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/14236800.rss
Hmm. Well that whole Twitter thing makes a lot more sense now. Perhaps I’ll start putting the non-mouthpiece end of the telephone to my ear, just to see how that works out.
I don’t tweet. Just so you know. NTTAWWT.
Where there’s smoke, right Ace?
Mr Jacobson is still very good on this subject.
If you really want to learn Twitter, check out this ‘power user’ in your RSS feed. This guy, a lefty, is a wizard at it. And bonus! you’ll learn things about what makes the far-left tick, what ticks ’em off, and where they’re going next.
http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/8431652.rss
per newrouter’s post above:
It’s pity no one on these talking-head shows bothers to ask what exactly is it that Mr. Cain is purported to have done.
On the other hand, if we’re all tacitly agreeing that what he did was look a white woman in the eye, so to speak, then yeah, I have to agree with Goldie Taylor. He would have been lynched. Fortunately for Mr. Cain, when Martin Bashir and Goldie Taylor go to a necktie party, they only leave an innocent man’s reputation twisting at the end of a rope. How proud of themselves they must be.
You just gotta love the whole uppity nigger got off easy subtext, don’t you?
In this case were there’s smoke, there’s an arsonist.
Great line.
Nixon Agonistes
Link
Wait, Cain hit on three women?
I thought he made an non-sexual gesture to one(while mentioning his wife of decades), asked for a tea with sugar from another(though admittedly insulting, since he mistook a reporter for an aide), and the third doesn’t want to say.
Hit on them?!
At least Bashir knows how to demonstrate appalling behavior in his own fleshy tv presence, so to that extent he doesn’t have to imagine himself.
I only noticed the misspelling afterwards, too.
Hit on them. Huh.
I hope Ace is either married or has a hell of a wingman, because he has no game…
Thank you guys for the info.
Since this twitter thing ain’t workin’ for me (Nice robin’s egg blue background twitter people), could somebody clue me in as to what the clueless ewok did?
Speaking to some other dude he said: “Here’s a fact, guy’s got three different women saying he hit on them and two of them were paid to be quiet.”
summon … the war turtles
Ace’s problem is that he argues against every maximal position he can find and then gets himself all worked up.
He’s currently arguing against some mythical creature who believes Herman Cain is the second coming of Christ.
Ah, I see,
Meme Meme Tehfacz Arin
“Here’s a fact, guy’s got three different women saying he hit on them and two of them were paid to be quiet.”
do the “justice brothers” charge for this training?
Link
me I’ve never seen Mr. Herman and our friend Jesus in the same room at the same time
I would remember
Jen Rubin ruefully pitches dirt on the grave (she hasn’t got around to rolling back the stone for this one yet. Romney’s another matter):
I haven’t seen Wall Street Romney’s hoochie on the tv nowheres ever either
“His poor wife decided not to go on Fox News for an interview.”
the rube is in full romney mode with the blessings of
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Paul Ryan has nothing but praise for Romney plan
mr. ryan maybe too status quo at this point
Jen Rubin is just rolling around in the mud now.
I’m sorta embarrassed for her.
Bold faced hypocrisy is the best kind. At least there’s no confusion.
heh, Owwies attempt to show the wretched Tea Partyers how it’s done.
How can you not love a guy like this?
“I’m the Koch brothers’ brother from another mother…and proud of it.”
Messaging, bitches!
Wow. So what we have is a “conservative” — and that’s what WaPo tells us Jen Rubin is — choosing to believe an anonymous woman over the front runner for the GOP nomination.
Actually, “one suspects” that anyone who listens to Jen Rubin — and others like her — are the kinds of “conservatives” who will throw you under the bus if it helps them in any way to do so.
I bet his poor wife, if she saw Rubin on the street right now, might just smack her dumbass upside the head with a very stylish handbag.
fyi ghwb and demonrats:
Link
At times like this I’m reminded of that old saying, “Primaries bring out the best in all of us.
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Sexual Harassment over the River Kwai.
I see from that That Twitter Thing on the sidebar that Jeff’s out winning friends and influencing people.
An Abrogated Agreement Too Far
The Big Anonymous Red One
Spartacain
Saving Private Romney
Das Bloort
my favorite jen the school marm feature is this:
the idiot (with bigIvy says):
Friday question
By Jennifer Rubin
The Herman Cain sexual harassment hullabaloo dominated the news. Meanwhile, the White House has another month with 9 percent unemployment to explain. Mark Block was accused of financial impropriety in lending money from his company to the Cain campaign. Texas Gov. Rick Perry is trying to explain he was sober during that speech. And Mitt Romney unveiled a spending and entitlement plan that made Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) kvell. Which of these will have the most impact on the 2012 presidential race?
Remember: All answers must be in by 6 p.m. ET on Sunday (with the time change, you have another hour!).
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Paths of Press Glory
Full Mental Junket
Rubin forgot to add, “But Mitt doesn’t really mean any of it.”
DeCainacalypse Now
The Dirty Quarter-Dozen (Assuming the Additional Accuser Really Exists)
All Quiet On the Anonymous Accuser’s Front
Sink the Block,Mark
Where LegalEagles Dare
Black Hawk Downed
Jonah Goldberg’s G-File today:
I’m sure he meant it at the time Jeff.
Cucellini: Obamacare “the issue of our day”
Don’t nobody tell Jen Rube-in
The Disappeared. *
Jen Rubin has spent the last two presidential election cycles attacking the conservatives in the field so that we end up with the least conservative candidate.
She’s a plant.
The alternative explaination is that she’s prone to school-girlish infatuations of an obssessive character (think Leave Brittany Alooooone!), but that’s just not credible, is it?
Definitely a plant.
It would appear that this is Joel Bennett’s client. I thought it was $45,000 not $35,000.
Ok, the 45K is a different one. Must be the hand gesture woman.
I notice that this “incident” happened with several people present but all the “witnesses” cited by the NYT are giving what we would call hearsay evidence as they say they heard the woman’s account of the incident but it is not stated that they were present. They do try to weasel us to think that with this nice wording, “One person with direct knowledge of her account at the time “. Slick as snot.
My emphasis as I noticed an obvious thing. People familiar with another’s account are also known as non-witnesses.
#129 = #130.
heh
OT:
Mad[ness]-is-on
It seems to me that the three “familiar with her account” consist of two people associated with the NRA and one Joel Bennett.
Somebody ought to go back and look at the Thomas hearings. How long did it take for Anita Hill to go from anonymous to named? Just so we know when this woman’s name is likely to become part of the record.
Is there a definition of several that would be less than three? If so all there would be is her lawyer and herself and her present husband. She and her lawyer are the “several” since she is familiar with he own account. Add hubby and you get the three. Lawyer would be the “direct knowledge” guy cited later. No NRA people needed.
her not he
Spotlight must not mean what I think it means
I’ve got the Brock book floating around somewhere.
She’s a plant.
Boston fern or philodendron?
Good point about the several people, geoff.
complained that the workplace turned hostile after she alleged that he made advances toward her during a work-related outing
So if people think you’re a crazy bitch who might turn on them, and they start to avoid being anywhere near you, it’s them creating the “hostile workplace.”
Oh fuck, I had more than 8 months of trying to get rid of a lawsuit-lottery mercenary like that and survived by the skin of my teeth. And I’m just a low-level supervisor.
Boston fern or philodendron?
poison ivy
There are two direct quotes from the piece. I’m guessing both are from her attorney.
As I recall at one point a Hill sympathetic witness was testifying and stated that Hill told her of harassment, at a date that would have indicated Hill was harassed by her boss after Thomas. The hearings were paused, some well known lefty lawyer “counselled” the witness during the break, and she came back “unable to recall exactly” the dates Hill complained to her. Ring a bell Ernst?
I’ve known several potted plants more intelligent than Jen the Rube.
Though I haven’t yet met Ollie North’s lawyer…
Pretty sure he’s the smartest in the greenhouse.
Taranto had a typically insightful column on just that phenomenon today.
My firm pays for sexual harassment contingencies on our D&O policies even though we don’t have women working at three out of four locations. Why would we do that? Well, first, it’s bundled. But, second? Because we haven’t been able to hire women at three out of four locations. Which means we’re probably discriminating before we even let them in the door for the inevitable gropings and hazing.
Turns out women aren’t super into quant analysis even though we’ve been trying. Really, really trying. So that’s on our policy. It’s not cheap.
Not kidding.
Cain should take this opportunity to pivot towards tort reform.
That explains why she looks like Pelosi minus a few decades.
bh, math class is hard.
Your company should create positions for coffee-getters and shirt-ironers. Pay them the same as the quant analysts and you’ll be bulletproof on the hiring and equal pay fronts.
McGehee
I believe math is “not hard” so-to-speak, but speaking just for myself — and I was good at it enough that my high school algebra teacher begged me to major in math in college — it was fun for the short term but I really didn’t want it as a career. I had no burning passion for it.
Actual harassment is a little different and doesn’t pay as well.
Except McGehee after a few months they will feel that getting coffee and ironing shirts is really rather demeaning and they will unionize to set up some work rules, maybe a paid year off for
child-birthun-abortionsfamily medical leavefamilial-structure-agnostic addition event (an FSAAE, use HR Form series Sh4200). Then the automatic pay increases, the occasional wildcat strike, retire at 50 on 90% of their last year’s salary.Plus the bitching.
I don’t blame Ace for being wrong, but I do blame him for being slower than nearly everyone else that’s paid any attention at all to this dustup.
OTOH I think the only reason that the dustup exists in the first place is that no one remembers reporters for being wrong; they remember them for being the first to be right. Which I think explains the rapid scurrying to both poles of any given issue by so-called reporters.
You could say that a great deal of my job is quantitative analysis. Which just means that “quants analysis” is an extraordinarily nonspecific identifier for what I think is probably an extraordinarily narrow range of occupations.
My brother has a QBA degree, and he’s probably not what you have in mind, either.
But more in the direction of your argument, there still aren’t all that many women in analysis-intensive engineering fields. But that’s nowhere near “none”, and also is not to say that there aren’t some very sharp female engineers out here.
I’m starting to think that Mr. Cain should respond to every magical-harassment question with well, after there were pictures of me with a child I sired out of wedlock with a homely, spacey campaign worker while my wife lay dying of cancer. Oh wait, sorry, that’s the story you chose not to pursue.
I award you one Internet, motionview.
In finance, quant analyst or quant is an ordinarily specific identifier. What it might mean out of finance, I wouldn’t have much of a clue.
My wife is a finance weenie, and she works with numbers. Quantities! Quantitative analysis, even!
Wait ’til she finds out she’s a quant; she’ll be so excited!
Provided she knows what a quant is.
She doesn’t like math, though, beyond simple number-crunching. Hates stats. She’s something of a contradiction, really. I’ve always thought that stats should be a finance weenies’ best friend.
It exists because we have one political faction which has, over time, taken control many institutions including much of the the mass media. They scream “This is what democracy looks like”, as they proceed to act “by any means necessary”.
Narrowing election choices to be no choice at all has been the way Obama has won elections but he is not unique in this on his side, only the most prominent and successful practitioner on this method of progressive democracy.
The Tea Party and the Internet seem to be the counters to this way of “fixing” elections. So of course there is a proposal which has one “nobel” stated purpose but major side effects which could derail this pesky interference online.
One prosecutor, one judge, your site is gone.
Of course we all know all prosecutors and judges are saints so no problem.
Hey, don’t blame me. I didn’t create the job title.
It’s merely a term of art.
I’m not shooting the messenger, here. Just pointing that anyone who works with numbers is a quantitative analyst, so they might want to reconsider the brand. As distinct from, what? Qualitative analysts?
Buy the books.
Think it’s a clumsy recognition of the huge growth in computerized trading and modeling in the business and the influx of mathematicians and physicists into the field over the last few decades.
And, yeah, there are qualitative analysts so to speak. People who track management teams, political developments and new legislative regulations have a real hard time quantifying their research but they do still provide a real service.
Yes, I know. The quantitative/qualitative splits the entire universe in two. Plenty of room for everyone.
Did I do that?
Heh, no, it’s all good, McG.
Slart’s saying it’s a silly term and he’s right (without my disagreement). I was saying that it still refers to specific job at the firm and I was right (without his disagreement).
Just takeing my pet peeve out for a walk, McG. Sorry if you stepped in anything.
“taking”
So, I haven’t completed my daily quota of stirring up shit after all. I’ll keep trying.
You can do it, McG. I recommend disparaging college football teams at random. That might work.
it’s a silly term
Quite.
I prefer Pascal’s espirit de finesse/espirit de géométrie formulation myself [sniff]
Helps us Humanities B.A. types feel superior to you over-remunerated B.S. types.
Sorry, us uneddicated BS types don’t unnerstand words like remunerated.
I mean, who speaks Latin anymore?
I mean, who speaks Latin anymore?
Starbucks and Barnes & Noble employees mostly.
With maybe a few of the plumbers thrown in . . .
Also, I’m sure you’re educated. You might not be learned, as we morally superior quasi-paupers like to say.
The difference being that whereas the latter makes you a better person, the former makes you a more employable one.
Semper ubi sub ubi.
But deep down inside, we envy you.
What’s that doing under there?
ubique!
When you’re not souless automatons slaving away for the machine you do.