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Cain appearing on Hannity for full hour

Beginning…about now.

PILE ON!

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update: Cain notes that severance agreement differs from settlement for sexual harassment. Maintains his innocence. Believes that the leak came from another campaign.

He also laughed at a litany of racial criticisms leveled at him by liberals, put together in a montage. Says they just don’t like a black man who thinks for himself.

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update 2: I liked this bit, which Cain uttered unselfconsciously: “As a conservative, running for the Republican nomination…”

As to why the Cain campaign blamed the Perry campaign: Anderson has connection to Politico and started working for the Perry campaign. He would have been privy to the info, having worked for Cain. But Cain said he took his cues from the Forbes piece.

70 Replies to “Cain appearing on Hannity for full hour”

  1. Joe says:

    Actually Hannity would be a good forum for Cain.

  2. sdferr says:

    I can’t help but disagree with Hannity as to his claim that Cain’s campaign is hanging in the balance right now. But then, I look at Hannity as a type of media simpleton who thinks himself otherwise.

  3. Vlad the Impala says:

    Why can’t Republican sex scandals at least include sex? That’d be much more interesting.

    Say, getting a Lewinsky after dealing cocaine. Now THAT would be a sex scandal I’d love to see Diane Sawyer weep through.

  4. Joe says:

    Hannity is no Rush. If Rush = Michael, Hannity = Fredo. But Hannity has been defending Cain over the past week.

  5. Joe says:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/acting_like_dweeble_CldpZXKcPtmDL4pxOjGP1L Meanwhile, Mitt is still Mitt. When Huntsman can mock you effectively, you know how fucked we are.

  6. sdferr says:

    It’s a strange defense that would throw up a portrait of a political condition Hannity can’t possibly be privy to, is all, Joe.

  7. DarthLevin says:

    Will Cain be subjected to a mind-numbing sequence of excluded middle questions from The Hannitizer? When he gets into “Yes or No” cross-examination time, it sets my teeth on edge.

  8. leigh says:

    I find Hannity difficult to listen to. However, I had to run some errands yesterday and he was on teh radio with Marc Lamont Hill and Starr Jones talking abo Herman Cain. It was actually pretty interesting after you filtered out all of the crosstalk and Marc Lamont Hill trying to speedtalk and repeat himself ad nauseum in his attempt to fill Cornell West’s empty suit.

  9. Joe says:

    sdferr, I do not disagree. Just that Hannity is not Michael Medved.

  10. dicentra says:

    Just throwing this out here: Glenn Beck’s list of how to prepare for—and survive—the crash landing. A sample:

    HAVE A HARD COPY OF IMPORTANT BOOKS AND DOCUMENTS
    LEARN OLD AND OR LOST PRACTICES.
    MENDING/CANNING/FARMING
    LEARN TO FIX AN ENGINE
    RE-LEARN READING A MAP
    KNOW THE NEWS. LIFE CAN CHANGE QUICKLY.
    BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOUR POSITIONS BY KNOWING THE OTHER SIDE
    KNOW HOW TO LIVE ELECTRONICS FREE
    HAVE PAPER COPIES OF IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS
    KNOW WHERE YOUR DEEDS ARE. TAKE THEM IN EMERGENCY
    GOLD, FOOD, CIGARETTES, LIQUOR, SUGAR, AMMUNITION, GUNS, SEEDS,
    SKILLS (BARTER) KNOWLEDGE
    HAVE 30 DAYS CASH ON HAND
    BUY A HOUSE
    STOP ALL EXCESS SPENDING. BUY QUALITY ONLY. FORGET FASHION ONLY
    MEASURE TWICE – CUT ONCE. DO NOT WASTE.
    CONSIDER A FUEL EFFICIENT – SUV/TRUCK
    CONSIDER SOMETHING PRIOR TO 1979 FIX YOURSELF
    HAVE A GUN AND KNOW HOW TO SHOOT IT.

  11. Squid says:

    HAVE PAPER COPIES OF IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS
    KNOW WHERE YOUR DEEDS ARE. TAKE THEM IN EMERGENCY

    Oh, now that’s just adorable. Here’s a better idea: pick out a nice house on the lake, and live there. If the rightful owners* show up one day, pick another nice house on the lake.

    * Little pieces of paper are somebody else’s problem.

  12. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Cain followed by Karl Rove, whose only advice was for Cain to give Politico what it wanted —fill in the blanks on their innuendo laced, anonymous 2nd & 3rd hand sourced hit piece.

    Yeah Karl, having the NRA black out the names of the complainants and release all the documents would have protected their anonymity while preventing the story from going longer than a single news cycle. That’s the ticket!

  13. sdferr says:

    A distinction has been drawn, not so long ago, between the ruling class and the ruled. It used to be easy for Americans to elide such a distinction, since after all, the principles of our national compact preclude it, by definition. Over time though, as we’re all too aware today — having had our backsides burnt by their antics — the forms and measures of our compact have eroded to be replaced by a characteristically European style of “democracy”, a democracy of them and us, them the rulers, and us the cattle.

    Events like this trashing of Herman Cain are always something more than they seem on the surface. For my part, the takeaway “something more” is a sorting process. I am sorting those who understand themselves as the knowers vis a vis Mr Cain and company (though they do not seem to be possessed of the self-knowledge enabling them to see themselves as I see them! They haven’t figured out that the sorting is on.) and those who understand what and who it is the Mr Cain represents.

    Why should the rulers, or those who would want to be rulers, care? They have made the question a question of will, is why. We people have begun to engage at the level of will. Since the rulers insist, we seem to be bent to accommodate them.

  14. Crawford says:

    Ass of Speds has declared Cain guilty and Politico vindicated.

    Musta gotten a whiff of a place on the Romney campaign.

  15. Joe says:

    Cain followed by Karl Rove, whose only advice was for Cain to give Politico what it wanted

    Is that coming from experience? Is that what Rove did with Fitzpatrick?

  16. dicentra says:

    sdferr:

    Sounds like somebody doesn’t know his place. And that somebody is you.

    No eye contact!

  17. Joe says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/323346.php Ace says he is just checking the car out.

  18. Carin says:

    *subscribes to Squid’s newsletter

  19. Squid says:

    sdferr,

    I think you’ve struck on a big part of the reason why the Tea Party has been hounded so mercilessly since its inception. The last thing the Ruling Elite want to see is a large group of people marching and making speeches that keep up the chorus “We Are Americans! We Are Free! We Will Not Be Ruled!”

    The thought of their divine right of rule over us is so taken for granted at this point that they simply can’t bear having it questioned. Not least because their answers to such questions, were they to see the light of day in their unvarnished glory, would come up very, very short.

    Unfortunately for them, we really won’t be ruled, and they’re running out of resources with which to buy off the squishes. If any of them had half a brain, they’d be getting out now, while the getting is good. The ones who remain are likely to see the business end of my torches and pitchforks, if they’re lucky. Any of those rotten bastards tries to hold out to the bitter end, he’s liable to swing from a lamppost. (Note to any LA County Ass DA’s: I’m not advocating; merely observing. And I’m certain that if the recalcitrant ruler is Jewish or black or otherwise protected, we’ll let him go with a stern talking-to, because we’d hate to have our character questioned in public by our moral superiors.)

  20. newrouter says:

    ace should have gotten a carfax for perry

  21. sdferr says:

    If any of them had half a brain, they’d be getting out now, while the getting is good.

    So so terribly true. Or in the alternative, take some simple lessons from men who understand the meaning of the compact: let go your will to power, silly greedy-graspers, and prosper. Listen to Mr. Cain. Listen to Mr. Ryan. Listen to Gov. Daniels. Listen to Gov. Walker. Listen to Gov. Kasich.

    These people all, instantly and in nearly every political decision they make, remember for whom it is they work. It really isn’t all that hard.

  22. happyfeet says:

    Perry’s a done deal. It’s cause of his faith I guess if you’re to believe his wifey-poo.

    If you even need a reason.

  23. beedubya says:

    Robert Conrad as Pappy Boyington on Baa Baa Black Sheep was kind of cool too.

    ..except for that gay form-fitting flight suit

  24. beedubya says:

    Ass of Speds has declared Cain guilty and Politico vindicated.

    Musta gotten a whiff of a place on the Romney campaign.

    Ace’s transmogrification into an LGF-ish character is just about complete. All he needs now are too-tight bike shorts and a new Schwinn.

  25. sdferr says:

    Who didn’t love the Corsair (besides the poor blokes who tried carrier landings before the Brits figured it out)? What a piece.

  26. TaiChiWawa says:

    Cain’s Vow To ‘Finger Source Of Leak’ Prompts Fresh Harassment Charges

  27. happyfeet says:

    Ace is just doing the best he can but he needs to understand that people were desperate-assed desperate when they leaped on Perry like he was a spicy and flavorful corn chip but they’ve experienced Perry now and they find him lacking in certain qualities that would inspire them to ever cast a vote for him in this lifetime.

    If you throw Cain under the bus you get Romney.

    Done and done.

  28. newrouter says:

    All-in-all, it was an interesting discussion. I think Michael Gerson made a great case for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney being an establishment Republican, but failed to offer much evidence that Romney is a conservative — or that he would govern as a conservative — and the callers to On Point and Ryan Hecker of FreedomWorks of America certainly seemed to agree.

    As I noted on the show, Republicans, like the Biblical Jews, have been fated to wander in the desert until the generation of flawed leaders that brought them to the brink of annihilation has passed away. Conservatives and Tea Partiers have brought the Republican Party back to the point where the promised land of an historic wave election is in sight, but that opportunity may be lost if the GOP hews to the old establishment ways and old establishment leaders.

    Voters don’t want pale pastels; they want bold colors that will draw a clear contrast with Obama and the big spending, big government liberalism he represents.

    In Mitt Romney, Republicans have an intentionally content-free presidential candidate who can garner no more that 20 to 25 percent of the primary vote, and who is at war with the conservative base of the Republican Party. But for the first time in 40 years, Republicans have abolished the winner-take-all primary system until April 1st, and given the new system’s potential for lengthening the nomination process, other candidates can and very likely will come back. With Romney stuck in the twenties, the Republican nomination may not be decided until the convention. This means Romney is not “inevitable,” and there is no reason why conservatives and Tea Partiers have to once again settle for an establishment nominee.

    Link

  29. JHoward says:

    The weird thing about AoSHQ to me, feets, is that nobody says anything about money…except commenters. The anti-Paul mania fits well with the site’s general ignorance of the subject, led by Malor.

    Then Monty shows up and with the Doom series, virtually defines the subject on and for right Republican sites.

    How this all gets along in one space without blowing out the Internet amazes me.

  30. DarthLevin says:

    I think B-dub has something… there is indeed a whiff of Chucky floating around Ace’s place.

  31. happyfeet says:

    I barely click over there unless someone links just cause their material tends to be duplicative

    btw nobody in the real world is talking about Newt

    that should just be noted here

  32. newrouter says:

    well this is the innertubes: go mr. newt please pontificate!

  33. DarthLevin says:

    Newt can talk purty. I just don’t trust him to follow through on any of it.

  34. happyfeet says:

    at this point I could vote for Newt no problemo

    they’ve worn me down

  35. B. Moe says:

    How long is it until the Iowa caucus?

  36. sdferr says:

    Dunno B. Moe, but Ohio has an important date with the voting booth next Tuesday, and the recent polling seems to say that Gov. Kasich’s legislation is going to lose. fie

  37. Ernst Schreiber says:

    61 Days.

  38. newrouter says:

    “he recent polling seems to say that Gov. Kasich’s legislation is going to lose.”

    i wonder how l’affair cain affects tea party types in ohio?

  39. DarthLevin says:

    Of course SB5 is gonna lose, sdferr. Kasich wants to kill children and see Gramma burn because all the police, firemen and EMT’s will be fired fired fired. Oh yeah, teachers too. Yes on Issue 2 means that roving gangs of illiterate arsonist hooligans will begin raping your next door neighbor.

    I know it’s true because those nice AFL-CIO and CWA people used my tax money to take out ads telling me so.

  40. sdferr says:

    It’s a good question mewrouter. Here’s hoping it puts a charge into ’em, and they work to drag their otherwise reluctant friends to the polls.

  41. newrouter says:

    Here’s a second theory: members of the MSM are Secret Patriots. They tell the public they’re pursuing the truth without fear or favor, but in reality they are also Americans who will act if necessary to protect the Republic. That’s especially true when someone they don’t trust with the powers of the Presidency actually gets close to exercising those powers. Edmund Muskie, the late David Broder told us, was widely considered too ill-tempered to have his finger on the nuclear button. So when he seemed to be crying in a 1972 New Hampshire storm, the MSM made a huge deal of it. Threat averted. Gary Hart just seemed weird–a judgment his post-campaign behavior has not tended to undermine. (He’s stayed married, for chrissake–how weird is that?) George H.W. Bush, on the other hand, seemed eminently presidential. If (hypothetically!) he had a discreet age-appropriate mistress on the side, it obviously wasn’t affecting his performance in office. The Patriots gave him a pass.

    Herman Cain is widely perceived as a charismatic, intelligent leader who is nevertheless woefully unready for the Presidency. And yet … he was leading. Pundits thought voters would tire of him, but voters weren’t tiring of him. His tax plan got picked apart–and he kept on leading. His main rival, Mitt Romney, wasn’t going after him. It was becoming clearer and clearer that he wasn’t a joke and he wasn’t just promoting his book. He could really get the nomination, in which case he’d be running against a highly vulnerable incumbent. He might actually win. The first primaries were only a few weeks away. Somebody had to take him down.

    You would think the editors of Politico would be especially attuned to this train of establishment thought. They answered the call.

    P.S.: Two final points: 1) I’m not trying to sneer at reporters’ Secret Patriotism the way I try to sneer at their Liberal Bias. I would probably be a Secret Patriot too, given the opportunity. But I hope I wouldn’t pretend I was consistently exposing the truth about various types of scandalous behavior; 2) There actually aren’t two explanatory theories.The Secret Patriot theory subsumes the Lib Bias theory, if you assume (as is true) that political reporters are mainly responsible, not-too-leftish Democrats. In their minds, they’re pursuing the nation’s interest both when they punish conservatives and when they protect the country from the occasional unsuitable Dem. “Liberal bias” is patriotism.

    Cain loses out on both counts.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/03/the-secret-patriotism-of-the-press/#ixzz1cgwAYsVZ

  42. sdferr says:

    Oof, sorry, newrouter I meant. Proofing would help.

  43. beedubya says:

    But for the first time in 40 years, Republicans have abolished the winner-take-all primary system until April 1st, and given the new system’s potential for lengthening the nomination process, other candidates can and very likely will come back

    Like such as whom for instance as by way of example??

    ….Daniels??… T-Paw??…or She-Who-Shall-Never-Be Counten-nced_by-The Smart-Set?

    HUCKLEFVCK, even??

  44. B. Moe says:

    I think the last Presidential election pretty much blew that Secret Patriot theory all to fucking hell.

  45. newrouter says:

    from levin

    In an interview with The Daily Caller, former National Restaurant Association board chairman Joseph Fassler offered a firm defense of GOP presidential front-runner Herman Cain, along with an explanation for how Washington’s best kept secret — the identities of Cain’s sexual-harassment accusers — was also kept from the association’s board.

    “The accusations? It’s a hatchet job, in my opinion,” Fassler told TheDC from his Phoenix, Ariz. office. “My gut tells me it’s a hatchet job. He gets a lead, he gets some traction, and the next thing you know, here come these allegations. It’s sad.”

    Fassler said his four years in leadership positions on the association’s board — including one year as chairman and another as past chairman — overlapped with two and one-half years of Cain’s time as CEO. Fassler was first elected to the board in 1984, and was chairman in 1997.

    While he said he had no reason to doubt the accuracy of reports that the restaurant trade group made five-figure payments to employees then embroiled in what is now a campaign scandal, Fassler said he was never informed about those payments while on the board.

    Politico reported late Thursday that one of Cain’s accusers, then a 30-year-old female government-affairs staffer, reported an allegation of sexual harassment to an NRA board member within hours of what she said was an improper sexual overture.

    Fassler’s account, however, either questions the accuracy of this account or suggests a communications failure among board members.

    He told TheDC that he “never heard anything about Herman that would suggest he had those sort of allegations lodged against him. He was a professional. Thoroughly professional.”

    Severance agreements, he said, were — and remain — “common” in human resource management. “You offer people severance agreements, unless they are for cause, all the time,” he said.

    At the National Restaurant Association, Fassler explained, complaints about workplace behavior were referred to the human resources department. “Then HR would bring it to the legal department. If it was about someone in a particular job, I imagine the complaint would have gone to his boss.”

    The board of directors is the CEO’s “boss,” of course.

    Asked why no complaint about Herman Cain ever reached the board, Fassler put the episode in perspective, essentially seeing the amount of money involved as small-potatoes.

    “This agreement? If it was of a major magnitude, I would have been shocked to not have known about it. So my takeaway was that it must not have been of a major magnitude,” he told TheDC.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/03/national-restaurant-association-chairman-during-cain%e2%80%99s-tenure-its-a-hatchet-job/#ixzz1cgxno84R

    Link

  46. beedubya says:

    B. Moe posted on 11/3 @ 6:27 pm

    I think the last Presidential election pretty much blew that Secret Patriot theory all to fucking hell.

    This

  47. sdferr says:

    Hayek, cited by Stephen Hayward in his ongoing series of posts on The Constitution of Liberty at Powerline:

    This path [of union reform] is still blocked, however, by the most fatuous of all fashionable arguments, namely, that “we cannot turn the clock back.” One cannot help wondering whether those who habitually use this cliché are aware that it expresses the fatalistic belief that we cannot learn from our mistakes, the most abject admission that we are incapable of using our intelligence.

  48. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Saw that too newrouter and it’s bullshit. It’s not secret patriotism, it’s New Class elitism. (“Woefully unready” somebody had to take him down.”) They’re not called The Deciders for nothing.

    Other than that, it was an interesting read.

  49. sdferr says:

    One striking feature of the Cain campaign has been Cain’s ability to weather gaffes with little damage to his popularity. To some observers, Cain has seemed to defy the political law of gravity. But now, with Cain leading in many polls and at the same time he has been struggling to address the harassment allegations, that ability is being put to its toughest test. Talks here in Iowa suggest that he has already used up some of the good will Iowans naturally extend to candidates. For some of those voters inclined to support Cain, the feeling is: I still like him, but there better not be anything more.

    More than nothing? That shouldn’t be hard for a fellow like Byron to come up with, should it?

  50. newrouter says:

    “Here’s hoping it puts a charge into ‘em, and they work to drag their otherwise reluctant friends to the polls.”

    2009-2010 tea party types had the warm up with false charges.

  51. guinspen says:

    I would probably be a Secret Patriot too, given the opportunity.

    I’m holding out for Double Secret Patriot.

  52. happyfeet says:

    Joel Bennett’s anonymous and deeply racist little slut needs to understand she can’t have it both ways – either she wants to smear Herman or she wants to stay anonymous

    pick one

  53. guinspen says:

    With a License to Pikkachu.

  54. happyfeet says:

    those are very hard to come by

  55. newrouter says:

    oh my politico

    “It’s a lot like his foreign policy — leading from behind but with a high body count,” said a Republican who held a top position in the 2008 presidential race. “Rarely is Obama himself the tip of the spear in an attack. He’s much more likely to let liberal allies and the media initiate the attack and keep it alive.”

    Attack politics, of course, are more the norm than the outlier in American politics. But while slash-and-burn attacks typically damage both candidates — see, for instance, George Bush’s low approval numbers when he was reelected — Obama has so far pulled off the difficult trick of remaining broadly personally popular even as Americans are unhappy with some of his policies and with the direction of the country, and taking little blame for tough tactics.

    The former Illinois senator’s career is littered with the husks of fallen candidates, and at the core of every major race he’s won is a personal contrast — though his aides protest, more credibly in some cases than others, that they had little to do with it. His primary and general election campaigns in 2004 featured candidates undone by divorce filings. His 2008 primary campaign against Hillary Clinton was one long, high-concept assault on her credibility, under a brilliant banner that contained an unstated contrast: “Change You Can Believe In.” In the general election, a barrage of negative advertising added to aides’ — but never Obama’s — jabs at an “erratic” John McCain.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67504.html#ixzz1chDYjGIZ

  56. Entropy says:

    Breaking news; Snowball has fled. Leaving the show.

    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=32233

    Will probably have a cameo appearance in the 3rd season before being hacked to bits with an ice axe in Mexico.

    Still, I look foward to the second season which will feature predominantly snow hippies. (snippies?) Looks to be very promising.

  57. newrouter says:

    this is the credentialed stupid we are up against:

    As I said to the tea partiers who carried guns to protests: this sort of thing should stop. Not because you don’t have a right to it, but because it frightens people. And large political protests should strive to avoid things that make others afraid for their physical safety, even if you know in your heart that you mean no harm. Whoever organized this should have known better.

    Link

    you talking about the black guy that mslsd portrayed as a white guy megan?

  58. happyfeet says:

    megan overextends her brain sometimes

    she went to a very good school, you know… it’s one of the downsides

  59. newrouter says:

    “Whoever organized this should have known better.”

    yo credentialed chick: maybe that’s purpose. OUTLAW or armadillos or rockfor.

  60. serr8d says:

    Followed @58’s link thinking to find Meghan McCain; instead, Insty’s girlfriend. Who is a couple-three overstuffed tour busses mentally heavier than the former.

    Because those busses are equipped with professional fainting couches.

  61. Pablo says:

    Wait, whoever organized this should have made sure everyone who decided to wander in was working according to script?

    Real life isn’t what happens on Daddy’s campaign bus, ya silly bint.

  62. newrouter says:

    megans get no respect: airheads united will never be defeated @0ccupuystupid

  63. newrouter says:

    @63 sexual harassment?

  64. newrouter says:

    “but because it frightens people”

    #ows not rape-rape

  65. newrouter says:

    miss megan has a safe gig in andy’s beagle’s left ear

  66. happyfeet says:

    who’s scary to see with guns is the LA fucking PD

  67. serr8d says:

    Yes, ‘feets, you’ve got that right.

    Best to get one of your own and become proficient with it, and soonest.

    An old Tejas boy like yourself should have some experience with a hogleg. Not in LA of course; but you do have one squirreled away for later ?

  68. SDN says:

    As I pointed out here, Perry is the only candidate I see who is actually willing to get the Feds back to their proper sphere. If that’s important.

  69. happyfeet says:

    I have a gun in Texas

    but I want a new one – something German and serious-looking

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