Hi, all. Just a quick note to let you know that I’ll be taking off early in the AM to head to Loveland for the youth Regional wrestling tournament, where my son will be competing for a chance to advance to the State tournament. I’m proud that Satch made it this far in only his second year of wrestling — and while I don’t think he’s quite experienced enough to advance to the States, I do see quite a bit of potential in him, and I believe that potential will translate into a big season next year (I was able to teach him a near leg turk / stepover turk turn to pin tonight, a series he picked up very quickly; the problem is, he has to break an opponent down well enough to set it up, unless he catches it off a re-shot, and so far he’s shown an inability to use his weight to hold kids down consistently in anything other than a half nelson).
At any rate, that’s where I’ll be for the majority of the day tomorrow, so if no one else posts, please feel free to use this post as a SC primary open thread.
Also, do remember that tomorrow is BJTex’s memorial service. I sent flowers from the pw family, but I’m sure the family would appreciate any words you all might have to offer.
Be well, and we’ll talk again soon. OUTLAW WARRIORS!
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update: Satch placed 7th (he would have finished fifth had he not lost a tooth during a match, which proved something of a distraction to him after he’d built up a good lead), but still, he bought himself another advancement — this time to the League Championship tournament.
Oh cripes I’ve got to vote tomorrow. Me and the fam are discussing the decision over txt. I guess I could vote Santorum.
Why do I just not give a shit anymore? so disappointed in all the choices ugh
Good luck, Satch! Make Daddy proud, tiger!
Santorum is probably gonna come in 4th I think which will make it hard for him to rationalize staying in the race
and then after that we’ll have a contest between Wall Street Romney and Newt Gingrich and Newt’s crazy bitch ex-wife
and whoever wins will be who we have to vote for next November if we want to make Obama stop his vicious ass-rape of America
my money’s on Marianne
Good luck to Satch, Jeff.
I am starting to lean toward Newt. It would be a hell of an entertaining fight, and Newt has no shame, which I think is going to be important for a Republican to have a chance.
This is probably going to be one of the dirtiest campaigns in history, and being able to take a punch is going to be vital.
the funnestest thing about nominating Newt is to think of all the money and time Wall Street Romney wasted
Marianne doesn’t have a prayer. Newt’s a horn dog, was when she was the other woman. So Newt now has a lock on the horn dog vote as well as the multitudes of ex-husbands who have felt the wrath of the ex-wife. And what can the Dems say about a serial adulterer what with the massive defense they mounted for Brother Bill. He also has all the folks who have palpable hate for the MSM.
All he needs to do is pick a female hispanic with executive experience as a running mate and he’s a lock next November.
Marianne still has Teh Power of Teh Crazy on her side.
Misunderestimate her at your peril my friend.
“I’ll be taking off early in the AM to head to Loveland for the youth Regional wrestling tournament.”
I don’t like to make moral judgments, but this is plain wrong. They’re just kids, Jeff! It’s totally unfair to make them wrestle you.
Oh, you mean Satch will be the wrestler. I get it now. Good luck, Satch!
I am starting to lean toward Newt. It would be a hell of an entertaining fight,
What, when he debates Obama?
When Obama says, “This campaign season has seen enough nastiness, and therefore I’m not going to participate in any degrading ‘debates'”?
Then?
Then Newt does 30 and 60 second ads debating an empty chair.Newt is a communicator, same as Fred Thompson and Ronald Reagan. He could put those seconds to good use.
Why? There will have been 3 contests, one of which he’s won. Instead, we should pressure Paul to drop out and see where his votes go.
My guess is that any candidate named LeRoy Goldberg is right out.
Will it matter, is the question.
BT, every time somebody says “there’s no way the can say…” they do. And it works. Every fucking time. People suck.
I think you may be assuming a level of principled, consistent behavior not in evidence BT. Especially considering they have academia and the MBM on their flanks giving them cover for inconsistency and hypocrisy.
Well if Rick does any better than 4th I am taking full credit. And yes, we are on a first name basis now.
Whether it is Obama or Obama’s surrogates in the press, directly or indirectly as BT indicated, Newt is the only one I have seen who will counter-attack effectively.
Maybe he is just the only one the news is showing doing it, but I haven’t seen other people directly challenging the premise of questions like he has been.
/*—–Crude alert—–*/
I’ve been working on a counter to Santorum’s Google problem. SCOAMF is great, works in everyday conversation very well, but might not have the necessary ick factor. How about something like:
Dan Thavage, take that man’s Obama out of your mouth right now! If you want him to have time to Barack on your face that is.
/*—–End Crude alert—–*/
(maybe I should just have “CRUDE ALERT” tattooed on my forehead, to along with the “POOR IMPULSE CONTROL“
Newt has about the same favorable/unfavorable ratings as Palin. Palin knows the MBM just as well as Newt, and has demonstrated effectiveness as an agent of sudden and relentless reform. Any chance for a swap?
Palin would have to throw her hat into the ring.
No. No Palin.
I’m starting to warm up to Newt. (Don’t hate me, Pablo.) He can be a real junkyard dog when he’s mad and boy howdy! is he mad.
As for Newt’s womanizing; the man his 68 years old. He was a horndog is probably more accurate. His tomcatting days reside in his memories. I agree that there are enough men and women with a crazy ex or two out there—espcially a crazy ex who is a lying liar who lies—to diffuse any “yabbut” out of the other camps. Plus, he’s actually married the mistress(es), an odd turn of events. There is a lot of hay to make out of the Marianne story if he wants to go there. She better hope she doesn’t or she can kiss off any tv time or book deals in the future.
So far, Newt is the only one willing to bring it to the media. And they don’t like it. I’m not much on predictions since I tend to be wrong a lot (Go Giants! Go Patriots!), but I think We the People are ready for a sea change in the way the news is doled out to us. Who else remembers when the news used to have suit and tie guys sitting at a desk with a big clock behind them? In the late 70’s and early 80’s we switched to the newsman/woman is our pal format. Now (I’m looking at you, Shemp Smith) they’re our wise-cracking across the hall sitcom neighbor or the annoying guy/girl at the end of the bar who thinks he/she is a card.
We are electing a president not playing Gotcha! I agree that there is plenty of material to run on if Obama chickens and refuses to debate. The commercials write themselves. And it’s close to Cinco de Quatro, too!
Alright, I’ll “Stick With Rick“. Did I mention we are on a first name basis? I call him Rick, and he has this tremendous nickname for me: “Stop”.
Last name “Helping me”
Heh. I was on a first name basis with Rick Perry (sob), bless his heart.
I wonder if Anita was sincere about that restraing order?
BBL. I have errands to run.
Just a guess, based on nothing more than a hunch, that if Santorum can raise enough money to mount an effective campaign through Super Tuesday, Newt and Mitt will pretty much take each other out.
I think Palin was as close as we were going to get to actually reversing course and too many on ‘our side’ let the relentless assaults by the MBM and our establishment betters scare them away from her.
iron, how about Sec’y of State Palin in a Gingrich Administration. I can hear the heads exploding.
I’m more of a John Bolton for Sec of State guy.
Right on cue BT, they are still defending Brother Bill.
Well, yeah, iron. That was different!
It’s the same thing when you bring up the Kennedy’s.
“I’m more of a John Bolton for Sec of State guy.”
So is John Bolton.
I’ve never liked Mitt Romney, but I didn’t think he was a douchebag until today. WTH with sending Newt a cake for the 15th anniversary of his ethics committee hearing and/or fine?
Just what we need, another middle school president.
Newt is the only one I have seen who will counter-attack effectively.
And?
That gets us what, exactly?
The press doesn’t wise up. People don’t wise up. Newt gets to feed his grandiosity on the cheap.
He can be a real junkyard dog when he’s mad and boy howdy! is he mad.
Really? How mad can he be when he’s all nicey-nice to the press a few minutes later? It’s just more Kabuki. It’s not an indication that Newt will start eliminating government departments.
When Newt gets mad for real it’s narcissistic rage. It’s not because someone has attacked Enlightenment ideals, it’s because someone has thwarted HIM. You can bet the farm that Newt will not under any circumstances drop the grudge he now nurses against Mitt.
These other attacks on the press are pure street theater, not righteous indignation. It’s all to feed his ego and to rack up votes; when it’s no longer useful to him, he’ll stop.
Don’t get all sold on a progressive with an R after his name (and a genuine narcissist to boot) just because he “takes it to the press.” He has not in any way abandoned his conceit that it’s OK to use the levers of power to mold society as long as a Wise Republican is doing it.
Besides, last time around, he presented a Contract With America to implement. What’s he offering now?
Also, the Tooth Fairy owes Satch some big bank.
A few days ago, I saw an Argentine cartoon on Telemundo about the mice that come fetch children’s teeth from under their pillows and leave coins in their place.
I asked some Mexicans if mice take the teeth in their country, and they do. I didn’t know that they had a Tooth Mouse in Latin America.
Learn something every day.
Best of luck to the young man.
Absolutely the rage is all because it’s personal to Newt. And while I will agree that he certainly has a healthy ego, I’m not convinced the he is a narcissist. By all accounts he has a healthy relationship with his wife, daughters and grandchildren, after all. He needs others in his life and he seems to enjoy giving them things as well as his time.
I’m really torn about our candidates. We are at a time in our history where we need a Churchill not a Chamberlain.
It’s a lesser of two evils argument for me.
I wrote #34 before seeing this: The Theater of Newt
The colleagues he links in addition to Steyn are Jonah and Andrew McCarthy, all of whom recognized that Newt’s canned answer to the “open marriage” question was anything but real.
The worst problem any electorate has is to fail to detect charming narcissists and to fall for their little games. Obama is able to stoke his base by railing against the 1%. Are we going to be fooled by Obama’s GOP analog because he rails against the press?
Go Satch! Congrats, Jeff. Teeth are bringing about $2.00, but I think in this situation, a fiver is in order.
I’m not convinced the he is a narcissist.
As the daughter of a cerebral narcissist, I can certify that he is very much NPD. Wouldn’t you trust the child of an alcoholic to spot a drunk?
By all accounts he has a healthy relationship with his wife, daughters and grandchildren, after all. He needs others in his life and he seems to enjoy giving them things as well as his time.
That’s not how you rule out a narcissist; that’s how you rule out a schizoid (hermit). People were surprised when my mom walked out on my dad after 43 years of marriage; my cousins had no idea that we were suffering emotional abuse. Narcissists are extremely good at putting up a “normal” front when it suits their purposes, and whether their marriage is “healthy” depends on whatever neuroses (or personality disorders) the spouse has. If his current wife is also a narcissist (or if she desperately needs to worship someone as badly as he needs worship), they’ll do just fine by all accounts.
You’re conflating “clinical narcissist” with “selfish asshole,” as most people do. Clinical narcissism is something you have to experience up close and personal to understand.
Here’s why I think Newt is a cerebral narcissist:
1) He’s always “the smartest guy in the room” and makes sure everyone else knows it. And although he is smart (all cerebral narcissists are), he’s also not the least bit humble (teachable).
2) He’s constructed a fictional sense of himself along the lines of Hari Seldon from the Foundation series, the brilliant historian who molded society. (Narcissists have no identity of their own, so they construct one, cf. Ward Churchill, Indian; Barack Obama, Healer of Worlds)
3) He reacts to personal attacks with narcissistic rage, even when that rage is obviously counterproductive (huge tell). This is how we know that GWB wasn’t a narcissist: he was able to ignore the personal attacks and respond gracefully to his critics.
4) He doesn’t have the ability to tell which of his grandiose ideas is workable and which is not: their grandiosity is the whole point of the exercise for him.
5) His interpersonal relationships with fellow Republicans were extremely contentious to the point that they realized that You Can’t Tell Newt Anything, and they had to throw him out. (A mere asshole can be taken down a peg.)
6) He’s known to be extremely haughty and condescending with the people he works with. He’s the smartest guy in the room, remember?
7) He refused to recognize Santorum’s characterization of him as “grandiose” as an actual slam; rather, he took it as a compliment, because narcissists are addicted to grandiosity and find it to be their best characteristic.
Look, unless you’ve dealt with a narcissist up close, you can’t comprehend how incredibly impossible these people are. I realize that I can’t convince you that he’s got the disorder even with that list, because any one of those items, taken in isolation, doesn’t seem that big a deal.
But he’s got it and he’s got it bad.
And as a narcissist, he Will Not Listen To Us while in office. He will do what He Thinks Is Best, regardless of whether it actually qualifies as conservative or classically liberal.
Newt will let us down worse than Bush ever could because Newt does not take instruction from lesser beings (everyone but him and maybe Einstein).
You can only trust a narcissist to do what narcissists do. That’s all.
Absolutely the rage is all because it’s personal to Newt.
Which means he won’t employ that rage in service to Classical Liberalism except where it benefits him personally.
As a contrast, let’s look at Victor Davis Hanson, whose historical knowledge exceeds Newt’s.
Is VDH haughty and condescending? Does he regard lesser intellects (most of humanity) with contempt? Does he crank out one grandiose scheme after another to fix society? Does he respond to critics by lashing out in rage?
Even though VDH really is the smartest person in the room, do you think he leaves people feeling diminished, or do they leave glad for the knowledge he’s imparted?
IF I ever get to pick which is very highly doubtful I would have to vote for Mr. Newt instead of Wall Street Romney cause Mr. Newt his brashness is much more of the moment whereas Wall Street Romney is firmly ensconced in the failshit management school of thinking plus it would be fun watching him Whitman himself
Di, I am a psychologist. I’ve dealt with narcissists aplenty.
Quite frankly, I’ve never paid enough attention to Newt until recently to feel the need to diagnose him from my armchair. Wht we see on television is also selected and edited, as is the written press. I am not defending him, I am just saying that I don’t know enough about him that hasn’t been batted and nattered about by his enemies to make a judgement, and that would include voting for him, not just how I might feel about him personally.
I will say that I don’t find his “outrage” at the press to be genuine. I agree that it is theatre, but I am not having a problem with that right now. It was grandstanding, indeed, but we live in a soundbite world and he has had several “zinger” moments that are being played endlessly on the radio and the television. If nothing else, it is serving to highlight the kid gloves approach that has been used on the boy wonder, Obama.
Certainly people who go into politics have a certain tic to them. Really, who in their right mind is going to go through having their lives turned inside out? We have or had three chior boys (Huntsman, Perry, Santorum) in the race who were longtime married, relatively “clean” by political standards, family men, &c and where are they now? Two out and one on his way out. (Sorry Santorum acolytes). That leaves Romney who has been running for president since he was in short pants. Paul who really doesn’t care too much, but just likes to stir the pot. (He even said as much a few weeks ago.) Santorum who may have good ideas but is not exactly a firebrand and is …too…something. And Newt.
If it comes down to Newt and Barry, I wonder if there is a room big enough for their egos?
Happy, at least we get to see Mitch on Tuesday when he rebuts the Staate of the Union. I’m excited to see him.
I am too I hope he helps the Newt and the Wall Street Romney focus more better cause this primary sucks ass
That it does. This is almost as bad as when sweet old Bob Dole was clutching a pen in his bad hand and talking about himself in the third person vs. The Big Dog.
It was all over but the reelection party.
Di, I am a psychologist. I’ve dealt with narcissists aplenty.
Quite frankly, I’ve never paid enough attention to Newt until recently to feel the need to diagnose him from my armchair.
Then start watching. You’ll see the tells soon enough.
If nothing else, it is serving to highlight the kid gloves approach that has been used on the boy wonder, Obama.
Preaching to the converted. Either you already know Obama’s been protected and you’re outraged or you don’t care.
We might be getting a charge out of Newt’s street theater, but HE WILL NOT DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. If you know narcissists, then you know that they are motivated exclusively by their quest for narcissistic supply and only operate on principle by accident.
We(of a certain age anyway) don’t have to armchair our judgment of Newt. The man has been big in political theater for two decades. He isn’t exactly an enigma.
I’m disinclined to worry about the lines between ‘superior acting nerd’, and ‘clinical narcissist’. Newt is a huge crap shoot. He’ll be brilliantly constructive, or or go all in on a bad hand.
I’d vote for him over Romney, but Santorum is the only sane bet now. I hope leigh is wrong and happyfeets wishes are dashed, and I actually get to vote for him…
I hope you do too Mr. lee but you won’t – weren’t you the one what told me I wouldn’t? I googled after and you’re pretty much right. Or whoever had said that.
HE WILL NOT DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
Maybe. As Lee says above, Newt is a huge crap shoot. Newt has been off my radar since for at least ten years and closer to fifteen if we are talking his big moment in the sun with the Contract for America and the Clinton impeachment. The mere fact that he took out the dispicable Jim Wright is always going to put some weight on the good side of the balance sheet for me. Are you really suggesting that everything that Newt has proposed and done or failed to do while in public office was merely to feed his massive ego? That there was no wish to serve a greater good?
He strikes me as an unknown/known or known/unknown or however Rumsfeld put it.
I think I must be of the school that believes it isn’t up to a president — any president — to do what needs to be done, if only because what needs to be done doesn’t involve a president in any serious sense. So to that extent, it seems to me, fixating on a president or potential president, or “leader” (fuhrer principle, anyone?) is a misdirection at best, if not a simple escape from hard troubles at the source of the problems besetting us. Namely, ourselves. This isn’t to say that a president can’t help a little, at the margins or around the edges, but won’t be the prime mover in any serious effort, which serious effort(s), I think, will be far more dispersed in origin and in effect.
“I hope you do too Mr. lee but you won’t – weren’t you the one what told me I wouldn’t?”
Yes, but I might, if dumbasses would just get the whole self fulfilling prophecy thing.
Is why I give Romney 100-1 odds. Too many dumbasses.
Weren’t you the one calling for Santorum to drop out?
What dicentra said @ 34. And as evidence, Newt completely overplays his hand at the “You nasty media!” game.
Newt is damned entertaining. Newt can be very effective. But at the end of the day, Newt is about Newt and his place in History!
Santorum had a great Newt argument in the debate.
That’s pretty much Obama, only with big ideas. I don’t need big ideas, I need my fucking country fixed.
Ziegler has some interesting thoughts about Newt the master debater.
What dicentra said @38 too. I do enjoy someone sticking it the media’s ass. But I’ll be damned if I’ll vote for it and it alone.
yes and I would like to take this opportunity to reiterate my call for Santorum to please drop out I think he’s out of step with America not unlike Casey Anthony and Spencer Pratt
Here’s the thing. Obama doesn’t come off as angry. He comes off as put upon. He’s the victim of all who fail to recognize his greatness. He’s not an (obvious) asshole…like Newt. He just wants to help you…and play golf.
Newt wants to stand astride History! like Colossus.
But you just said you too hope that I get a chance to vote for him.
You play with my emotions…
Perhaps I should quit singling stuff out and just go with a blanket What Dicentra Said.
he never listens to me Mr. lee do not worry
Are you really suggesting that everything that Newt has proposed and done or failed to do while in public office was merely to feed his massive ego?
Part of my dad’s narcissistic self-concept is that he never does anything wrong, never breaks laws, never steps outside of Church boundaries. And he never does.
That’s actually a good thing, on the whole. It means he’s not a danger to society. But he does it primarily to prevent fracturing his narcissistic self-concept. The effect it had on me, however, is that I’m terrified of being in trouble, because it means I’ll get my breathing privileges taken away.
That there was no wish to serve a greater good?
Obama is serving a greater good: just ask him!
Of COURSE Newt is serving the greater good: he’s going to mend society itself with his incandescent brilliance! He and he alone has the mental agility to see what needs to be done! And he has the greatness of character to pull it off!
Newt is an enigma only to those like yourself who have not been paying attention.
Perhaps I should quit singling stuff out and just go with a blanket What Dicentra Said.
Hey, I could have told you that.
Did the site blink out for anyone else just now? I kept getting a DB connection error.
yes i got the error too
Oh, dear. Dicentra I believe you are projecting your daddy issues onto Newt.
Someone did kick the plug on the server, though.
Pablo, Zeigler has it exactly right:
We cannot in any way win the war of words on their turf, and only someone as delusional as Narcissist Newt would think he could.
Don’t buy into his delusion.
“Dicentra I believe you are projecting your daddy issues onto Newt.”
And that’s coming from a trained, experienced psychologist too!
You should probably pay another one to tell you more.
Or do like me and just snicker…
Dicentra I believe you are projecting your daddy issues onto Newt.
You wondered if Newt could possibly do something right for reasons beyond Narcissistic Supply. I provided a personal example of how a cerebral narcissist can end up doing the right thing for the wrong reasons; I inserted how my dad’s “doing the right thing” affected me to show that it wasn’t an unalloyed good.
If these are just my “daddy issues,” then how do Pablo, Zeigler, Steyn, McCarthy, Jonah, and so many others manage to come up with the same conclusion as I have?
I still like Newt’s odds better than Wall Street Romney’s but that’s cause both WSR and Obama are equally supercilious cowardly and foppish ponces.
Newt is more erratic than narcissistic I think, and he’ll do a far better job than WSR in drawing a contrast between himself and Obama.
I’m not sure why people take Ziegler or the NRO pansies seriously.
Your father is better at this than you ever imagined he was. Or, Newt’s a flaming narcissist. One of the two.
Besides, if this were about my “daddy issues,” I’d be arguing that Newt as POTUS would be a merciless tyrant who will implement a police state that punishes severely for the merest stepping out of line.
But you knew that.
I’m not sure why people take Ziegler or the NRO pansies seriously.
Because in this case they happen to be right?
Are you saying that the MSM will permit Newt to land actual blows on Obama? That they won’t portray Newt as an unstable bully who’s picking on poor Obama?
Are you new here?
I take people seriously when they make sense to me, ‘feets. I don’t when they don’t. I suppose that’s because I consider the argument presented as opposed to ascertaining whether I think the presenter is a pussy or not.
Ziegler, for instance, has some issues. But sometimes, he’s absolutely right. Like you.
Newt is more erratic than narcissistic I think,
The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Welcome to America! Now back on your head.
Newt and his tacky slut wife as first lady would be surprisingly humble I think. But we’ll know more in the general. Newt has been very lazy about trying to make this primary about ideas… he’d rather talk about how evil capitalism is or about how he’s a way better lifeydoodle than Wall Street Romney even if he has a well-developed taste for tacky sluts.
In the general election though we’ll see if he fashions a race that’s about accomplishing an agenda for america or if it’s all about how awesome he is. My guess is that contract with america boy will go the agenda route.
If these are just my “daddy issues,” then how do Pablo, Zeigler, Steyn, McCarthy, Jonah, and so many others manage to come up with the same conclusion as I have?
It wasn’t personal, di. Just an observation.
If you cast your net wide enough or narrow enough, depending on what you are fishing for, you will always find an opinion or six that will bolster your own.
Happy, that is the word I was looking for “erratic”. Thanks.
Pablo, I have to disagree about Obama not coming off as angry. There are many examples of him being angry, petulent and tyrannical. Unfortunately, they seem to only pop up in the foreign press.
Are you just about the odds, or are you dialed into causing a non-failshit America?
That’s the point, leigh.
You are out of your fucking mind.
Yeah, that’s got humility all over it.
I don’t think they’re pussies exactly just professional propaganda whores. Very blah blah blah. Me honestly I’m not sure it matters how sincerely angry Newt is about how that CNN loser brought up his crazy-ex-wife.
I think that’s just blah blah blah. What’s Newt gonna do about the spendings and the horrific expansion of government? The answer to this has nothing to do with his bitch ex-wife but, as we learned from Bush’s several failures, it has more than a little to do with a willingness to confront our anti-American propaganda slut media.
Yes, it is the point. Thank goodness for the interwebs or we’d never know anything.
Fox is already projecting Newt in SC. Romney second and the Paul/Santorum battle is too close to call.
I guess this thing goes on for a while.
As to that santorum bashing newt thing…
Seems to me he was plenty happy with Newt leading the charge and being a flack catcher during the 90s. If the clean toga crowd had had some balls and not trip over their togas in dumping him at the behest of the MSM and dem caterwauling ISTM he would have been happy to follow him further.
Seems rather opportunistic to me to bitch about your generals tactics after you killed his horse and made merry with the enemy. But maybe that’s just me.
Are you just about the odds, or are you dialed into causing a non-failshit America?
mostly I hope to get rid of our rapist-in-chief
I don’t have high hopes for any of the D-listers Team R ran this year – mostly we better hope whoever we nominate is sensitive to the need of holding congress
I think an ex-speaker as president will be more aware of his place in the scheme of things than a mavericky unprincipled slut like Wall Street Romney.
But none of these people are anywhere close to ideal.
NC projecting Newt as the winnah in South Carolina.
FNC= NC
stupid keyboard
Do you have a grown up opinion you’d like to offer?
nope just these ones
It’s not just you, Stephanie.
Newt wins SC.
Newt wins SC but he still has the underdog mantle
That bodes ill for certain McCain-endorsed one-percenter ponces.
Newt climbing on the couch with Nancy, and his promotion of the individual mandate for health insurance are what bug me most about Newt. His marital history accelerates my doubt. But because with politicians one can only distinguish a few narrow degrees of narcissism, I will not disqualify the man on the grounds he is psychologically unsound.
I really, really don’t want to have to pull the Newt lever next November. I will if I have to, but I don’t want to.
If you cast your net wide enough or narrow enough, depending on what you are fishing for, you will always find an opinion or six that will bolster your own.
Reread my #72. I’m not projecting my “daddy issues” onto Newt. I’m applying my understanding to a particular case.
But if you don’t want to see Newt as a Narcissist, fine.
Rule out the following propsistion instead: Newt is a progressive with an R after his name. He believes that it’s legitimate to use the levers of government power to transform society in a “conservative” direction.
he’d rather talk about how evil capitalism is
That’s not a point in his favor. His RAGE over Romney’s attack ads lead him to use Leftist arguments in a Republican primary. Where’s the good judgment there? Where does that point to principled stands?
America hearts underdogs, too.
Look out, Mr. Inevitable.
Okay, so does Newt make a lot of noise and succeed in getting on the ballot in VA or will they dig in their heels?
I will not disqualify the man on the grounds he is psychologically unsound.
Look, if his Narcissism impelled him to hew to Classically Liberal principles without failure, I’d vote for him.
But it doesn’t in Newt’s case.
That’s not a point in his favor.
no it’s not but it’s very telling how feckless Wall Street Romney has been about exploiting Newt’s screechy anti-capitalist twaddle
What we need is a Narcissist who thinks he’s Madison, is what. That one I’d vote for in a heartbeat.
“Where’s the good judgment there?”
yea especially since mittens has romneyobamacare stenciled on his forehead
Virginia doesn’t mean anything… but that if Wall Street Romney gets the nom only by the balance of delegate votes from Virginia he might as well just join the Democratic Party and try again in 2016
it’s very telling how feckless Wall Street Romney has been about exploiting Newt’s screechy anti-capitalist twaddle
I have pointedly refused to watch the political ads on the Internet. Them what shows up on talk radio I can’t really avoid.
On account of the propaganda each camp produces is not a good index to what the dood will do in office, is what I’m saying.
Newt is a progressive with an R after his name. He believes that it’s legitimate to use the levers of government power to transform society in a “conservative” direction.
So does Romney he’s just not willing to get his hands dirty and still thinks Obama is a “good man”.
Now what?
mittens has romneyobamacare stenciled on his forehead
Where’s the good judgment there?
Now what?
Santorum.
Or Canada.
yes but the propaganda each camp produces is a clue to what they will do in the general
Romney rolls over and does the rub my tummy thing… just like Meghan’s coward daddy did
This lady in Peachland, BC takes nice photos of her surroundings. Maybe I’ll go there.
Santorum is showing dead last in exit polling.
Have I been arguing for Romney?
I’m in love with that town where they film Haven
No, you have not been arguing for Romney.
Living in Canada is not an option for me.
“Maybe I’ll go there.”
oh sure you just want nationalized health care
Nope. If he’s not in court yet, and I don’t believe he is, it isn’t happening. Perry, who had the best challenge, was dinged in the judgment against him for failing to mount his challenge soon enough.
What’s left.
I don’t get to vote until Super Tuesday. I think Santorum will be trying to figure out what to do with all of his campaign materials by then.
I’ve been thinking about the couch and healthcare heresy also and wonder (rationalize?) whether there is some impetus on his part to stick his nose in liberal causes to slow them down or bollux up the works. You can’t effect change from the outside looking in and you can do a shitload of damage burrowed in deep.
Crazy I know but then that is kinda the tea party tactic at work now in the republican takeover.
He could have been looking to wet his beak too AFAIK.
Hard to assign motive absent more facts.
It’s also very Sun Tzu.
so newt gets maybe 12-16 delegates tonight
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates
every primary til april is proportional
http://nelsnewday.wordpress.com/tag/proportional-delegate-system/
Santorum third, Ron Paul fourth.
“Look, if his Narcissism impelled him to hew to Classically Liberal principles without failure, I’d vote for him.
But it doesn’t in Newt’s case.”
It isn’t the case for any politician, was my point.
“This lady in Peachland, BC takes nice photos of her surroundings. Maybe I’ll go there.”
Boy will you be disappointed. BC is like the California of Canada.
“Hard to assign motive absent more facts.”
The guy sat next to Nancy and told us government needs to get in front of controlling the weather by controlling the populous. What facts are you waiting for?
South Carolina and Florida are winner take all.
In South Carolina the State wide winner gets(I believe 17 delegates) and then the rest go to who ever wins each Congressional District for a total of 25 delegates.
Florida will be Statewide winner take all for 50 delegates.
There is a pdf file here on all the primaries.
This is a story why Ron Paul supporters need to sit down and think things over.
I can no longer see any point to any of this nonsense except entertainment. Newt is far and away the most entertaining.
you’re right geoffb
i should have went to primary sources
http://www.weeklystandard.com/sites/all/files/docs/2012%20RNC%20Delegate%20Summary.pdf
so mittens is starting to push rightward with this speech
There are after FL two more that are at least in part winner take all before April. AZ is like SC with winner take all for Statewide vote and separate WTAs for each Congressional District. My Michigan is proportional for the Statewide vote and then WTA for each CG.
fl is a closed primary/per bryon preston pjm so that puts another variable into play
mittens is 15 behind newt but rickys is only 8 behind mittens
If this is right then there are 11 at large delegates which Gingrich won all of them and 14 ConDist delegates 2 from each of the 7 districts and Newt has won in 5 and may win the last 2.
Santorum is on talking about his grandfather again. I wonder how his parents feel about that? He never talks about them.
“Santorum is on talking about his grandfather again”
yea because “the immigrant story/rags-to-riches” is such a downer
It’s not his story. He, Gramps, was never rich. And he’s not the guy who raised Santorum.
My grandparents were immigrants, too, but I don’t spend all of my time talking about them.
#35 His name is Raton Perez. They,(Raton Perez and his ratoncitos), come at night and take the teeth, leaving coins behind and they polish the teeth or make them into pearls to sell to get the coins. My youngest is ten and he still believes in Raton Perez. I think there were two animated films made in Spain or Mexico about him that are charming.
#35 Here is the Wiki page http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratoncito_P%C3%A9rez
“It’s not his story. He, Gramps, was never rich.”
yea gramps left fascist italy to come to america. gramps was “rich” with liberty. and it is his effin’ grampa so it is his story.
i wish karltherovester would just stfu
I’m not liking the class warfare. Blue collar this, red blooded that. Like other work, doctors, lawyers and, well politicians, for instance, don’t really “work”.
“I’m not liking the class warfare.”
ask baracky about the pipeline, coal mines, drilling et al?
“Blue collar this”
says the pink collar paper pusher
“Like other work, doctors, lawyers and, well politicians, for instance, don’t really “work”.”
you can “work” the system or you can produce sumthing of value.
Joe Paterno is dead.
I thought we were all Americans? Since you don’t know what I do, you shouldn’t devalue it.
“Since you don’t know what I do”
@45 “Di, I am a psychologist.”
Yes, I am. You still don’t know what I do, nr. Nor do I know what you do. Work is work. Getting sweaty doing it doesn’t make it more valuable.
Newt is giving a nice speech.
My calling Mitzi “His Inevitableness” is finally having an effect.
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That should send him back to Massachusetts for good by morning.
“Getting sweaty doing it doesn’t make it more valuable.”
tell that to the roto router guy
Good job, McGehee!
“Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something.”
To this would I add, ” … creating value thereby.”
“Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something.”
filling out gov’t forms ain’t that
Tried to find text of the Gingrich speech tonight but it seems that every news place is reporting on Romney and his “close” 2nd place showing.
Except the WaPo which pushes the Obama TOTUS-SOTUS.
Well here’s the video anyways.
Will the Congress have the self-respect, self-possession and decency to laugh in Obama’s face when he pronounces his embrace of American “values”? Oh hells no they won’t. The imbecilic monkeys will surely applaud his lying ass.
Of course they won’t, sdferr. It would be fantastic if they did.
the “lowry review” so suxs
link
go away you little peeps
“Of course they won’t”
be able to do anything useful in a crisis like a “psychologist”. hey what’s the personality of a “failed capacitor?”
“Lisa Schiffren” likes s&m stuff
Longer version.
Their excitement is somewhat understandable. Romney coming in second is the ultimate plan, after all, just not in the primary.
i’m so glad ericerickson and ace were perry peeps. it is all about judgement. blow hard losers.
oh yea the whole pjmedia losers
I do not do facebook IRL, but I’ve set one up for Atheists For Santorum. I could not get motionview but I did get Movimiento Ver, so if anybody wants to, ah, well actually I don’t know what but I’ll bet I created or saved a job or something. Why Movimiento Ver and not Motion View? I don’t know, why do citizens with licenses get traffic tickets and illegals without licenses, not so much? Ah well, si se puede!
Finally found the whole thing up. At MSLSD.
Kate Bush The Big Sky
look for superman
So Santorum beat expectations then.
President Ronald Reagan – Liberty State Park [Pt. 1]
Don’t know what Santorum had to say, other than he promised to continue on while managing to avoid the shriek of Dean. But I’m guessing he didn’t tell his red blooded blue-collar peeps that they were the victims of those doctors and lawyers, or that he had a plan to make things better for them by getting even with the politicians who keep the working man down. So I doubt very much that Santorum was engaging in class warfare rhetoric.
What seems more likely is that he was communicating that Rick Santorum is just an ordinary guy from an ordinary family, and that whatever success he’s had in life he earned, practicing those ordinary American family values of hard work, self-discipline, faith in God, love of country, and respect for community. And since he’s an ordinary guy just like them, you can trust Rick Santorum to not further muck up the country in grandiose social experiments, or cut deals with grandiose social experimenters because Wall Street has figured out a way to earn a percentage.
Newt was on Rush quite some time ago and got asked about that, and his answer was basically that same as David Frum’s: you have to be ready to negotiate if you want acceptable terms of surrender.
Jpod gets to the nub:
If you think John Zeigler really turned on Palin, you might want to see what he thinks about Newt.
I’m glad Newt won this one, and I hope he wins Florida too. Our battle is as much with the ‘Establicons’ as it is with LeftLibProggs now, at least until primary season is over.
*That’s bullshiite. Recall the Democratic primary in ’08; Hillary and Baracky were bloodied beyond recognition. BHO went on to easily defeat our ‘strongest’ nominee.
John Zeigler is another richy rich kid who seems awfully impressed with himself, motionview. “Recovering Catholic”? Okay.