But first, she has some things she’d like to say.
How this message didn’t resonate with conservatives is beyond me. But then, I don’t understand much of what goes on inside the minds of voters. Which may just be a backhanded compliment to myself.
(h/t The Right Scoop)
I wish I knew why conservatives didn’t like her. I think the problem is that too many voters desire shiny, polished candidates, rather than candidates who will preserve liberty and roll back government. We can certainly point to “opinion leaders” who have this problem as well.
I hope the trend can be broken this election cycle, because if it isn’t, our road back will take much longer than it otherwise could.
My guess is that the gardisil moment inadvertently served to marginalize her as the “women’s issues” candidate. That’s the kind of identity politics that rubs conservatives’ fur the wrong way.
I second what Ernst said. That gardisil thing was really odd and I couldn’t think of why anyone would fasten on that. In the big scheme of things it wasn’t that big. Not when there are so many things from teh SCOAMF himself worthy of taking on.
She was trying to do too much with it —Perry’s a big gov’t Republican who doesn’t mind using the power of state to usurp parental authority (particularly when there’s campaign money &/or a favor to a friend in it) and put the health of your daughters at risk— and instead she ended up sounding like an anti-vaccine kook.
Small things as far as it goes, but so is misspelling the name of the company you want to hire you on your cover letter.
Ed Rollins, too, can be considered a small thing. Small things do tend to add up though, merging not only in our own conscious operations but from mergers in the conscious operations of originating agents as well. So we see indicators.
Last weekend I had the news on and they were showing a clip of Bachmann when the wife walked by. She says “I hope she doesn’t get elected, I couldn’t stand hearing that voice for four years”.
Women.
I don’t think the country is ready for a woman president yet, and it ain’t the men holding them back.
Well, Ann Coulter’s been saying for years that we need to repeal the 19th, and this cycle she’s done her damndest to prove she’s right.
I mean, I’m sure Hilliary could be elected(say next August Obama announces he won’t run and Hill stomps Romney into the dirt come November), but she’s more masculine than 3/4’s of the entire republican field.
By the way, I kinda think Obama not running is a real possibility. It scares me.
So’s Bachmann.
It’s only a real possibility if he becomes convinced he can’t and won’t win. Right now, they think they got this thing in the bag.
Since I shouldn’t want to be any the bigger a booger, I won’t take this opportunity to re-post my Machiavelli joke, but link it, to say, hey, he wasn’t altogether wrong. Oh, and the Book # was a typo: it’s III.
What Ernst said, plus a spinning .gif of her and Perry eating corndogs had outsized impact, IMHO.
Perry (my preferred choice, BTW) may well have been sunk by the Bad Lip Reading prior to the “Oops” Heard ‘Round the World, alas.
Althouse thought perhaps Bachmann’s problem was Marcus.
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Had she not gotten into that stupid vaccine issue early on with Perry she would probably be the one winning Iowa (not Santorum). If you lose people, it is hard to get them back later.
Of course, what do I know, I am just a peon and a cow. We must listen to the wiser party elders!
“So’s Bachmann”
Nu uh! Bachmanns a freaking Miss USA next to Hillary!
“It’s only a real possibility if he becomes convinced he can’t and won’t win.”
Or if Soro’s convinces him president of the UN, with Clinton as POTOS, would give him everything he wants. And more golf too…
This whole Michelle Bachmann’s husband gay thing seems more about trying to do another Santorum google bomb than anything else. Michelle hurt her self with fighting with Perry and that is why she had a hard time getting a boom of her own later on.
POTUS I mean.
And if acting weird during a campaign makes you gay…well then every major political officer holder for the past twenty years might as well move to P-Town, Key West and San Francisco and call it a day. Ron Paul, however, is heading to Nevada. http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2012/01/ron-pauls-secret-nevada-strategy.html
I tend to think her real problem is she didn’t go after Romney enough.
It was noticeable and it put a seed of doubt in my head. Okay, hiring Ed Rollins put the seed in my head and then Pawlenty was a big warning. But, during the debates, she’d dial it up to 10 on everyone but Romney. With Romney it was always a tie in with another candidate she was going after like “Newt Romney”. Or her “Perrycare” messaging? Laughable when you’re sharing the stage with a guy who actually pushed an individual mandate on his state.
(Granted, I still would have voted for her.)
That’s a failing she shares with the entire field bh.
There was a messed up dynamic in this race where the NotRomney’s decided they should battle each other for the opposition slot rather than simply take out the opposition.
Witness Perry putting all that money into Iowa going after Santorum rather than going after those to his left like Romney or Gingrich. I noticed that, too. Made it real easy for me to not give a shit when I thought he was getting out of the race last night.
Heh, yeah, I agree, Ernst. Once again I was too slow.
It’s the vaccine. You can be batshit crazy about any particular issue and survive as long as it has nothing to do with cancer, sex or telling kids “no”. Or kids who have cancer, or sex with people who have cancer, or sex with kids who have cancer, or giving cancer to kids who have sex.
So we’re comfortable with the narrative that being “Minnesota Nice” to Mitt sunk not one but two candidates amongst the conservative base?
There’s truth there, but I think a McCarthy-ite Gardasil injection was needed to put Bachmania down for good.
LMC:
Or sleeping with dead babies. That’s the new Crazy Barometer, or so I hear tell.
Sorry, “Zany” Barometer. Gardasil (either trying to force kids to get it or yelling at those doing the forcing) = zany. $500k at Tiffany’s = zany. Unfounded accusations of “groping” = zany.
Ghost-written for-profit racist screeds = not zany.
These distinctions do get confusing at times.
I think they’re related, zamoose.
When you go after Perry so hard on Gardasil — Some say it causes retardation! — it puts your treatment of Romney into rather sharp relief.
I think Bachmann with two ns came out of this smelling like a rose. She was charming and articulate and for the most part very disciplined. Perry could take a lesson, really.
I don’t think it’s messed up, I think it’s simple political calculus —if the not Romney vote coalesces around You, you win, if it coalesces around someone else, they win. So you focus on your immediate rivals, knowing that if the vote doesn’t coalesce around anyone, Romney wins.
It’s like playing RISK. Nobody wants to be the guy focused on the guy controlling 25-30% of the board just so the other players can eat away at your share of the map.
By the way, Pawlenty wasn’t Minnesota nice to Romney. He was running a primary campaign without raising the required funds and then endorsed Romney in exchange for getting his debt covered. Hard to make that arrangement if you take effective shots at your future benefactor.
If Bachmann endorses Romney before the general, well, I know how I’m going to read the situation.
Yes and no, EBL. Having a husband who is in the business of praying the gay away while himself, appearing to be less than masculine, didn’t help matters. She needed to let the Gardasil thing go, too. Perry had already admitted he made a mistake and that if he had it to do over again, would have left it up to the Legislature. I guess he was supposed to either kill himself on stage or never enter the race to atone for his sins. The biggest damage that she did was painting herself into the anti-vaxxer corner. It’s hard to come back after a major FUBAR like that.
Finally, the biggest problem I had with her and I heard other people, men and women callers on talk radio, saying that they wanted to like her, but she came off as a braggart, “I did this” and “I did that” “I, I, I…” She may be all that, but no one likes to hear it all of the time everytime she’s in front of a microphone.
I wish her luck in her future endeavors.
Pawlenty sunk himself by not having the balls to put himself painfully deep into debt in order to make it to Iowa.
Believe me, he’s kicking himself right now.
@Ernst #30:
Do also recall that each candidate took their chance at being the “front-runner” and actually leading Romney in nationwide and statewide polls. As such, like lobsters in a bucket, they clawed at each ascendant candidate in turn to try to keep the field level for themselves and, in the process, allowed Mittens to hang back and out of the fray and quietly consolidate his 23% establishment share.
That might be true enough, Ernst, but then I don’t want to hear a whole bunch of garbage about principles and the like.
If you’re strongly attacking those in your camp and then going easy on those on your left, I’d look for you to do likewise in future circumstances if it also helps you.
Personally, I think there’s some sort of freakin’ insurance lobby conspiracy to get either Romney, Gingrich or Obama elected.
I won’t vote for Romney, period, and I’ll only vote for Gingrich because I know if he wins the whole world will freak out, and that’ll be fun, and Obama? Please.
Fuck it, I’m staying home.
LMC:
311 would like a word with you.
I think you need to heavily invest in Operation: Counterweight regardless of whether Mittens tops the ticket or not.
When I read the Gardisil quote I assumed it would take her out of the race. Nothing to do with women’s issues or sex or the use of Gardisil. The issue is basic rationality and judgment. Someone told her that the vaccine could cause retardation and she believed it? That alone seems odd. To repeat that claim in public–especially given that we have a major public health crisis under way because of idiots who won’t get their kids vaccinated–seems like very poor judgment. And it was a completely unforced error, there was no reason to talk about it except to take a cheap shot at Perry. Another sign of poor judgment.
Wisconsin has to take one for the team and give us Scott Walker, immediately.
Silver Whistle:
I’d prefer LA give up Jindal, personally.
toMAYto, toMAHto. I’m running out of options here.
No staying home, LMC. That’s a sure loss. We have a Congress and several states that we still need to dominate, and staying home won’t get the job done.
If it comes down to Omney vs Robama, I’ll write in Mike Rowe (just like I did last time), and then concentrate on the rest of the ticket. I encourage others to do likewise.
Pawlenty’s problem, by the way, is that he started his campaign about 4 years too early. If he had concentrated on being an effective governor (a la Mitch), and stayed away from the posturing through the last few years, and worked on putting together a ground force after his term in MN ended, he very well could have had people begging him to run, essentially getting into the race at the point when the real-life version we’re stuck with got out of it. But no. Instead, we got the guy who cut his own throat by putting his ambition above his responsibility to the people of his own state (for whom he was supposed to be working), and burning through his limited resources long before the campaign really got going.
Why is it so hard to find a candidate who actually understands the game?
Well, the Louisianan tomayto has actually accomplished many of the reforms he ran on and has had a chance to leave his state in a better condition than how it started while the Wisconsonian tomahto is still fighting rearguard actions in order to allow his reforms to take hold.
I think I might actually do something similar.
Has anyone asked him whether his Discovery contract would allow an escape clause in order to serve as Veep?
This entire field is like the children’s game Barrel of Monkeys. We seem to be running out of red monkeys though, and they’re preferable to the blue ones.
Well the thing to remember is that the sweet spot is most viable conservative to the right of Mitt Romney. Pawlenty put Romney on his left and tried to stress viability, leaving plenty or room to his right, which is why Bachmann chewed him up (and also peaked before topping him in the polls).
The other thing to remember is it’s Mitt’s turn which seems to matter to Republicans for some damn reason, so thus far everyone has opted to not burn any bridges with Mitt, and his divide an conquer strategy has more or less worked this time.
We’ll see if Newt’s decided that he no longer cares who wins the nomination so long as Romney loses.
Iowa numbers numbers.
We’ll see if Newt’s decided that he no longer cares who wins the nomination so long as Romney loses.
Scorched Earth? I like it.
Looks like the Young, the Broke, and the Uneducated voted in droves for RonPaul, geoff. Thanks for the chart.
leigh:
You have no idea what a bigot you are, do you?
I’m not a bigot at all, Rob. Clue me in.
Ron Paul, notionally anyhow, appeals to young people. And how might we characterize young people in contradistinction to older people? In the aggregate as less experienced, as more naive, as more gullible, as marginally more ignorant, as more idealistic, as more readily prompted by enthusiasms, as poorer, as holding less to lose, as greater risk takers. Does Paul target these characteristics? Well hell yes. That’s just the kind of classical liberal he is.
I think that’s about right, sdferr. He appeals to the “I’m Eighteen and I’ll Do What I Want!” crowd.
At least Santorum dodged this bullet…
Whew. You never know what she might say.
So, Paul won among voters who claim their priority was a “true conservative” AND among people who self-identify as moderate/liberal. Confused people. I think the real lesson here is that Iowa doesn’t deserve to be a state, let alone having a first in the nation primary. We really should carve the corny shithole up and pass out parts to surrounding states.
I think for some of the clued in (and I have no idea what fraction of Paul’s youth vote that is) there’s also an awareness that Obama is buying the present at the expense of their future.
Not a single mention of neck tattoos? That’s gotta be in the top three.
Old people generally don’t play beer pong.
Do you mean the beer pong with paddles or the tossing variety?
Yes, you are.
Why does “less than masculine” (your assessment) have any bearing on Mr. Bachmann’s attitude towards gays? Why does it have anything to do with anything, in your assessment?
You’re a bigot. Your bigotries are congruent with the mainstream media’s, so they don’t stand out in your own eyes, yet there they are.
that’s just like going out of your way to be ugly to someone
Mr. Crawford must gorge himself elsewhere and then come here to vomit.
LBascom, I have a very conservative well informed female friend who essentially said what your wife said- she couldn’t handle listening to her.
new birther news
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I understand the dislike for .. well most of the candidates… but staying home is silly and counter productive. Please folks, I’m begging you, DO NOT stay home to prove a point. Vote for whichever barely conservative we nominate and hope for better in the future. I cannot spend another 4 years in Barraky’s socialist paradise.
Geez, Crawford. It’s not my fault that Marcus Bachmann looks like Nathan Lane.
Oh that’s rich, Abe. Leigh has… issues… with what she assesses as masculinity and homosexuality, and I’m the villain for pointing them out.
WTF? She’s a bigot. She’s prejudiced.
First, I’d bet she only makes that assessment of Mr. Bachmann because she’s opposed to his beliefs (as she understands them). Second, she makes that assessment of him PARTICULARLY because she believes it would hurt him — or simply because she’s too blinded by Group Think on the matter to care.
Her denial of same is the icing on the cake, because she sure as hell has never given anyone else the benefit of their denials.
Actually, let me correct that — the icing on the cake is that her expression of this bigotry is so glaring, as it comes in an area she’s staked out as being her Zone of Perfect Tolerance. Someone must be gay because he appears “less than masculine”? Did none of the lectures about the two not being connected, that homosexuals can be as masculine as John Wayne or Chuck Norris, ever sink in? Don’t you, leigh, understand that it’s a hurtful stereotype that gays are “less than masculine”?
I don’t get how this makes ME the villain. Leigh has made it clear that “gay rights” is one of, if not THE, her most important issues. Yet she stumbles so badly on this…
Me and Abe are pals. I’ll bet I know a lot more gay guys than you do, Rob. Or did I tread on some toes?
I didn’t say that you’re the villain, Crawford. I just kinda sorta noted that every single comment you make here is rather like you’re a gerbil shot out of a cannon. Rage at 300 mph.
I actually don’t care if Mr. Bachmann is gay or not. He can be the first First Lady to a woman president for all I care.
And, really, who bases a good chunk of their objection to a candidate heavily on what their spouse looks like? Anyone that we respect?
For me, Henry Waxman’s looks are nothing to write home about, but I’d vote for him in a heartbeat if those looks were wrapped around a mind that I had any regard for.
leigh’s comments about Mr. Bachmann are some kind of curious inversion of the women fainting over Obama’s toned abs. leigh is more concerned with the frosting on the neigboring cupcake than in the flavor of the cupcake in front of her.
Oh, that’s not true, Slart. I never said anything about Marcus Bachmann until today. You can look it up.
And now with the “some of my best friends are gay” line…
I’m just amused at the way you strike the pose of gay rights uber alles, but vent classicly anti-gay stereotypes against a guy simply because you don’t like his religion/politics.
slart:
It’s socially acceptable to hate on the Bachmanns, because they’re members of a socially despised group.
And Abe — every single comment? Really?
it’s socially acceptable to hate on American politicians generally
it’s a time-honoured American tradition like birthday cakes and April 15
Slart, I’d managed to get through all of December without thinking of Nostrildamus. Thanks a bunch.
I do dislike me some Romney, but wouldn’t his Supreme Court nominations be marginally better than Obongo’s? Liberty is often balanced on a razor’s edge of one vote these days.
You mean like how Kennedy is marginally better than was O’Connor? Or is it more like how O’Connor was marginally better than was Souter? Or maybe it’s like how White was marginally better than Kennedy is that you mean?
Saw this linked on Instapundit. From Glenn’s pull quote:
That right there is a pretty good example of why I’m much more socially conservative than I was twelve or even four years ago. Any mother who doesn’t have a problem with her 11 year old daughter popping into Walgreen’s for an abortifacient is the mother of a daughter I don’t want my daughter interacting with.
mr. ernst saw that too. can’t believe “mommy” wouldn’t want some nor luap free drugs for the little ones.
I share your concern, Ernst, although I have no daughters. Eleven year olds should be should be doing homework, taking dance and gymnastics and reading Tiger Beat or whatever it’s called now and their parents should know where they are and who their friends are. Sneaky teenagers are one thing, but eleven year olds? Sheesh, I had to be in bed by 9 o’clock when I was eleven. At home. Without a boy.
Links related to #65. Georgia ballot challenge. Opposition to Defendant’s motion to dismiss (pdf). From a footnote in the pdf.
Well we have always known that the Democratic Party thinks it is a law unto themselves.
“Well, I’m pulling the mommy card.”
actually you’re pulling the adolescent card.
eleven year olds for sure don’t need to be giving birth I don’t think
that would be really messed up
I don’t think so either, happy. I knew a girl a long time ago who had a baby when she was twelve. Her homelife was, shall we say, chaotic.
Your ability to pretend to miss the point in order to engage in some predictably shallow provacateurism grows tedious.
well I don’t think you should be buying pills for other people’s kids either but somebody better get on the stick or oh my goodness
See, this is a part of Newt’s plans that he spoke of back in the day of the return of Orphanages. I think this is a good idea. The babies are properly cared for and adopted out. Children would be taught, fed and learn a trade. It would dismantle the foster child system that is rife with abuses of many kinds, but is a cash cow that a lot of people use to score money and empathy points with. So, naturally, this will never happen.
I can’t even imagine leigh… it’s the sort of thing you read about a lot on those sites what end in .uk
Like the nanny-state maybe?
fucking idiot
Sort of like a Dicken’s novel? Sadly, the foster care system is actually worse in some ways.
Her homelife was already chaotic. Otherwise she wouldn’t have been pregnant at twelve.
michele should “run” for the speaker of the house. any peeps wanting to push this?
I think michele is aces just the way she is don’t ever change toots
I sorta assume that many of these super young pregnancies are the result of sexual abuse and it’d be nice if some adult somewhere would ask, “Hi darling, that’s a pretty shirt you have on… hey, maybe want to talk about things? Is mommy’s boyfriend or someone at home making you do things you don’t want? Someone at school?” Then ask some further questions so everyone could be sure there wasn’t an older perv that needed killing rather than an equally moronic preteen.
OTC for anyone? Fuck that. Make it the local age of consent at least.
Yes, that’s what I meant. Her mother was pimping her out to Mom’s male friends. This girl ended up with two children before she was 14 and was also a heroin addict and a prostitute. The children were removed from the home. Little Mom is probably dead now. She was a lost cause when I was working her case.
the boner got his gig by default. make mr. weepy fight for it.
yes I think Mr. bh is right you can’t just treat the symptoms you have to address the underlying condition
There are 4 cases involved in the Georgia ruling, (pdf). More is being contested than just what is mentioned in the American Thinker piece.
I like this from the judge.
mr. weepy has had his turn
My first choice would be to see her challenge Klobuchar for the Senate seat. Although taking over the Speakership from Boehner would just fine. God knows somebody needs to do it.
My guess is she’ll retire.
“She was a lost cause when I was working her case.”
social workers winning
I am not a social worker, nr.
“My first choice would be to see her challenge Klobuchar for the Senate seat”
nah go for power not back bencher at this point
“I am not a social worker, nr.”
a priestess in a confessional? or a law slug in the bureaucracy?
That’s literally a crying shame leigh.
The stepfather of one of my daughter’s friends has enough ink and studwork on his face to scare one of Peter Jackson’s orcs. Her aunt isn’t much better, putting the stamp in tramp, and from what I can see, her mother is supporting the whole sorry lot of ’em. She’s a very sweet and intelligent girl, my daughter’s friend, and it grieves me to think about all the shit she’s likely to get in before she’s equipped to deal with it.
I’m a Psychologist. At the time I knew the girl in my post, I was doing outreach at the county jail.
free or the county dime?
Give it a rest, nr.
There’s some truth to newrouter’s point about the limitations of the system. The system itself can’t care, no matter how much the caregivers in the system do (until they burn themselves out or accomodate themselves to the system).
So I think it’s a shame he had to step on it with some chop-busting that wasn’t called for.
Look at it as an opportunity for your daughter’s friend to see a normal functioning family in action, Ernst.
I had to quit doing the work with the jail population because it was alternately heart-breaking and infuriating. Heart-breaking because most of those girls were born with three strikes against them and being raised by criminals. They were like Fagan’s Girls and in every bunch there was at least one Artful Dodger who tried to work the con on me. “Hey, leigh, I don’t have no money on my books. Can you bring me some cigarettes?”
Exactly how I look at it and the reason why she’s welcome to come over whenever she likes as often as she likes.
Which unfortunately is hardly ever.
I’m under the possibly mistaken impression that her parents think we’re too uptight and traditionally middle class.
I can’t imagine they would think that
That’s definitely a good thing, Ernst.
Kids can get a really screwy idea of normal when they’re stuck in a messed up family. Just seeing a different daily life from time to time can leave a door open in their head.
Also, even short spans in the Schreiber household might greatly decrease the later likelihood of neck tattoos.
(Sorry, gotta joke around a little. It’s a depressing topic.)
I went to a steamship company’s office that day and made a selection of time tables. Anxiously I sat down and went over them and if I had found the elixir of life I should not have felt better than I did when I conceived a hope that a tour of the world might be made in even less than eighty days.
I approached my editor rather timidly on the subject. I was afraid that he would think the idea too wild and visionary.
“ryanbacon’s pork tenderloins?” he asked, as I sat down by his desk.
“Erm…,” I answered quietly.
He sat toying with his penis, waiting for me to continue, so I blurted out:
We live in a pretty posh part of the lake and our private road abuts a trailer park that runs the gamut from nice double-wides to rusty old Airstreams. I had a similar experience to yours, Ernst. I think the mothers (or grandmothers, sometimes) were afraid that we thought they were “less than”. This is ridiculous, of course, since we’re talking about children here. I did have to put the brakes on one friendship that my youngest son had, though, because his friend’s mother and her boyfriend would dump him and his little sister at my door and vanish for days. Literally. The fact that the kids weren’t upset about this was the thing that was most upsetting to me.
My guess would be they’re the one’s making assumptions. Just like you are in this case.
Out of consideration for my daughter and respect for her friendship (and the fact that I genuinely like this little girl) I’m completely non-confrontational about their “lifestyle choices.”
It’s because I won’t suffer a fool (especially a pretend one) that I insist on calling “bullshit” on your bullshit.
Nelly Bly, there is a guy over on Ann Althaus blog named “Titus”. You and he would be great friends.
I never doubted you were a perfect gentleman
nelly is our friend Mr. guins!
he’s quite the rapscallion
We got a mother like that in our neighborhood too. You spend so much time staring at her cleavage you hardly notice the balding.
You can’t help staring at her chest by the way —it’s impossible not to try and figure out what the hell it is that she decided to tatoo all over her
…self.
“I had to quit doing the work with the jail population because it was alternately heart-breaking and infuriating.”
did someone force you?
In that case, you got me that time ‘feets.
I forgot it was guinspen. Sorry, buddy. My son just got a Penguins sweater for Christmas. Goalie’s name on the back. He’s proud since he was born in the ‘Burgh.
No one forces me to do anything, nr.
gawd between the moose hunter and the “santorum” can’t peeps say that johnny mac has been an ahole after 1980?
it ain’t hard beltway losers.
so you quit because?
I was volunteering my time. I’m a giver like that.
i don’t want to make the meghan cry but: your dad sux.
so why did you “volunteer”?
Because it was the right thing to do and my priest asked me if I would.
“. Heart-breaking because most of those girls were born with three strikes against them and being raised by criminals.”
were they white, latino, black, or asian?
Asian girls don’t go to jail. Their mothers kill them first…not really. Mostly white and latino. Some blacks.
really “Some blacks.”
Not too many. This was 20+ years ago.
oh good your observations are “are prescient”. google “mahogany mobs” or “holder coward”?
I wasn’t working in the inner city, nr. I was out in the desert in California: Land of meth-heads.
I didn’t want to work somewhere really dangerous, like my cousins do at the Federal Prisons. I’m really little and was really really skinny then. And blonde. No dice.
Guarding federal prisons is really dangerous. Hardly a day goes by they aren’t bleeding all over the newspapers.
It can be if you’re teaching them. My cousin, a girl, teaches English to the Spanish speaking murderers at Corcoran.
That’d be a good point if I’d said anything about prior days. But I have no way of looking it up, because you (like me) are just some random pseudonymous git on the Internets.
I just noted that you seem (in this thread, anyway) fixated on Mr. Bachmann’s maniliness, or lack thereof, which I think is a creepy, superficial and jelly sandwich on white bread.
It’s not like we’re dissecting your femininity in public, now, is it? I mean, would that or would that not be an appropriate topic of conversation?
You know what’s even worse? TSA.
“A lot of people take this job very seriously—any bag I open could be my last,”
Meanwhile, all Virgin Flight Attendants are looking for is a fair shake, except for the most of them who aren’t.
“Virgin American is a great airline and a great a company. All flight attendants want is to be treated the same way they treat their guests,” says TWU organizer Karla Kozak.
Bring me a pillow and a vodka martini, would you love?
See, that there was creepy, too. As it happens, both of my daughters are Asian, having been unkilled by both birth and adoptive parents.
But maybe you were being funny. So hard to tell, in this here text medium. And of course not everyone who tries to be funny actually gets there.
I’m not a public figure , Slart. If I were, I’m sure you would.
Yeah, I can dig it. I bet your girl cousin has to wear a helmet and body armor, and still loses a couple of buddies a week to the dangerousness.
Yes, I was kidding. I grew up with a lot of Asians and they were always saying “Oh, I can’t do that! My mother would kill me!”
You know, Lee. Go fuck yourself.
I got that one, Slart. It having to do with the notion that Asians parents don’t truck no bullshit, especially of the shameful nature. We could use more of that.
Not having looked it up, I’m guessing the statistics would bear the stereotype out. Not the killing part, but the relative lack of incarceration.
I don’t suppose I even need to think about looking up the academic achievement part.
My kids are both high achievers, but as it turns out, they’re both rather highly self-motivated.
Weird, eh?
Wildly incorrect, your surety is.
Although the younger one gave us a scare, inclined as she was at a young age to paste her vast sticker collection all over her legs rather than in books and such as was the intention. Really, at least half the real estate on her legs was occupied by stickers.
So naturally we thought she’d be positively covered with tats by age 15. 5 more years until we find out, but on the plus side she’s rather averse to needles, and pain therefrom. So maybe they’ll all just have to be henna.
“like my cousins do at the Federal Prisons. ”
yep eff’ them and the horse
Shit gets weird around here sometimes.
hey leigh you and your parasites can go to h=e double tooth spics!
only gets “weird” when you don’t know you be in dat system. baracky uber alles.
You know what’s weird and really, really dangerous? Being 4’8″ and riding in a car without a booster seat, that’s what.
Once you’re 4’9″ it’s as safe as being a convenience store clerk though, so you don’t gotta worry anymore.
Nature or nurture? I’ve always tended toward nurture.
Is that about the bottom of the check how tall the person who just robbed you markers on the door are?
Shit gets weird around here sometimes.
Tell me about it. If happyfeet would take the clown nose off when newrouter put the vampire fangs in, we could all marvel at how Protein Wisdom imitated LadyHawk.
“I didn’t want to work somewhere really dangerous, like my cousins do at the Federal Prisons. ”
you are assuming there was a fed directed “need”. a psychologist” is a commie induced “need”. can you do something useful like bake cookies?
I wonder if I’m the only one thinking about a mid-80s Michelle Pfeiffer now.
I’m not sure the Bilderbergers are looking for cookies, nr.
oh yea leigh please do list your “successes”?
Why don’t you stop being a dick and a jackass long enough to dig up a Reagan speech or two?
some peeps are not allowed to be grilled like mittens. oh well. leigh your stellar performance in fixing social problems is waiting your description. go for it.
You were, bh. GODDAMN YOU! I’ll be in my bunk.
Some peeps aren’t obliged to please you with their answers.
No one expects the Reagan Inquisition!
“Is that about the bottom of the check how tall the person who just robbed you markers on the door are?”
Not necessarily. Being able to see over the counter helps though.
Following Newrouter while watching West Virginia sodomize Klempsin in the Orange Bowl is too much weirdness for me.
Careful newrouter, internet psychologists are like polar bears. Even though they got teeth and claws, people are always trying to protect’em.
One of my favorites bh.
I was just thinking of watching Scarface, Geoff. I must have that around here somewhere.
Roberta Flack – Killing Me Softly
the first time i ever saw your commie face
you go kenyan dad: Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167 (1875).
You guys want to disagree with leigh, disagree. God knows I do, but dickishness is dickishness and your both on the wrong side of dickish tonight.
I’m not getting the need to treat her like one of the trolls.
Grease 2 was not one of her better moments. Into the Night I remember vividly.
Ernst is uncharacteristically imprecise in his use of “both”.
Which is not to dwell unduly on the your/you’re thingy. But still I wonders which two of us he’s addressing as “both”?
link
really!
But now my bunk is calling me with the force of a thousand G2 stars, so…
I donno bh, chainsaws in bathtubs kinda turns me off.
Then again…
Only because I was characteristically sloppy about your/you’re.
Anyways, “you’re both” was directed at newrouter and lee.
“I’m not getting the need to treat her like one of the trolls.”
repeal the “right” to vote. gawd stupid msnbcers. go commies.
She didn’t do it for me at all in the 80’s. I thought she was kind of weird looking for some reason that I’m now at a loss to explain or justify.
In the early to mid 80s I didn’t appreciate her as she didn’t fire machine guns or kill aliens or box against scary steroid-abusing Russians.
By the late 80s, I decided I was willing to look past those flaws.
RE: Bachmann’s “I’m quitting speech”:
tl;dl.
I mean Christ on rollerblades: Bottom line up front. Don’t fill the stone bucket up in front of me.
Kate Bush & David Gilmour – Running up that Hill – Live SPB
This is different from teleprompter guy. “More Than an Hour of Q&A“
newrouter, I hadn’t seen that. Gilmour is one of my very favorite guitar players, and he shows a lot of taste and restraint there. And I remember that song well from when it first came out.
Bush is another matter; some of her work I absolutely love (this, for instance) and her more popular bits like Wuthering Heights absolutely grate on me. For my tastes, she should stay out of the higher registers.
As I age, I am liking classical vocals much more (which would be anything from tolerance to outright enjoyment) than I had as a youth.
This woman I’m considering shelling out good money to see. It probably doesn’t hurt that she’s not hard to look at, but she does bring a certain talent to the game.
Ernst, how exactly was I being “dickish”? Pointing out being a prison guard isn’t exactly dangerous? I have relatives too, although not so many they can be mentioned in every conceivable conversation. Just ‘cuz she claims to be a petite blond don’t mean you gotta go all Galahad for her.
Just rubbed me the wrong way.
“Just rubbed me the wrong way.”
Too bad so sad.
I do see leigh as a troll that thinks this is happyfeets blog and Jeff just runs it for him, and I don’t need your permission to challenge her or anyone.
Don’t like my comments? Then feel free to skip’em.
I suppose I could find where newrouter called this place an 8th rate blog and where Jeff wasn’t so happy about that.*
Or I could find one of the dozens of threads where newrouter just lost his shit and was wildly insulting to regulars here?
Does he need a Galahad? Does he need protection like that polar bear you referenced?
leigh and lee are homophones I think
Too bad so sad.
Indeed.
I don’t get the happyfeet love anymore than you do, but I don’t see leigh as a troll. Maybe I’m wrong. But if she is, I find her idiocy as useful to me as she finds my own, so there’s that.
Don’t like my comments? Then feel free to skip’em.
I might. Or I just might keep on disagreeing when I disagree.
“Does he need a Galahad? Does he need protection like that polar bear you referenced?”
Nope. I told newrouter to be careful, I didn’t tell you to quite picking on poor wittle newrouter.
Still, message received bh.
That isn’t my message at all, Lee. I enjoy your comments and like having you around. (For what that’s worth. I’m being genuine though.)
But, you sorta implied that those asking newrouter to knock it off were doing so out of some misplaced chivalry/concern for leigh. That wasn’t the case with me. He just gets annoying as hell when he gets into that mode and sometimes he’ll give it a rest if you ask him to.
Well thanks for that bh, and yes I did imply that leigh seems to be oddly protected at times. Unlike anyone else here. If it ain’t misplaced chivalry, I’m at a loss to understand it.
I don’t know. Think we’re perceiving it differently. She seems to get plenty of criticism when she’s loose with the “those darn socons” talk. Lots of people on that criticism list including Ernst and myself… who were also criticizing newrouter for being annoying in this thread.
Leigh and Ernst were just talking about messed up kids and exposing them to better environments. Perfectly nice discussion. Newrouter wasn’t joining in that discussion. He just did his newrouter thing.
I don’t mind joining the pile-up when it’s warranted and on a point worth debating. leigh’s volunteerism/social “work” didn’t, under the circumstances seem to merit the derision. And certainly not her cousin (or “cousin” if you so prefer). Next time I think you’re come out of left field to no good purpose, I’ll signal it to you.
How’s dude! what the hell?!? strike ya?
Thanks, Ernst. I thought we were having a nice little chat about helping the needy, too. Apparently, visiting the imprisoned and *gasp* trying to help them isn’t something Outlaws do. It is something that I do and that a lot of Christians do.
Lee, I have an enormous family that is scattered all over the country and we are often in touch with each other about family/work/child stuff. Many of them are EMTs, prison guards, ministers and firefighters. I’m not making them up for effect. I don’t know why you can’t stand me and I don’t care, either. I shouldn’t have sworn at you, though.
Some do, some don’t. But why select Outlaws, at all?
The same reason they seem to have a bug up their asses about psychologists. cf, Parasites, et al from my pal newrouter and my other besty, Lee.
Outlaws have nothing to do with it and I admire most of your Outlaws, but I am feeling a bit like my man Rick Perry the Pinata around here lately.
I like most of your regulars (I heart sdferr) but, I’m tired of getting kicked around for what seems to be being honest. And trying to disagree without being disagreeable.
Try being me.
The blog headaches would suck but… I’d be psyched the first time I fingerwalked a big sledgehammer.
On most days I can do a 10 pounder with either hand with relative ease. The only other one I have of greater weight is a 40. I may have to start adding weights to my 8 pounder somehow (I prefer the wooden handle to the plastic handle on the 10).
“I don’t know. Think we’re perceiving it differently”
I think you’re right. Leigh annoys me at least as much as newrouter annoys you.
Lee, was that your car on the roof on the news today?
I traded my sledge with all those plastic ridges that made it so easy to grip with my brother for his smooth, wood handled sledge. You were right when you said it would make a huge difference.
I can’t quite figure out why the lactic acid builds up so quickly but I still regularly cramp up or fail in about a minute and I’ve been doing it three times a week for months now.
Ernst, I think you have me confused with newrouter. I was just engaging in some light mocking of leighs romanticizing prison guards. She is the one that brought up cousins. I wonder why she always does that?
I’m too short. I feel your pain, though. The hubs had a blog for about two years and finally pulled the plug on it when it was overrun with trolls and asshats.
I disagree with your definitions of both romanticizing and mocking.
Anyways, it’s about 40 degrees above average here today. You’d almost think that Al Gore had come to town to preach on the dangers of global cooling —almost.
I’m going to smoke a cigar now.
What kind of cigar? I need to get some new ones for my dad’s birthday.
I suppose I could find where newrouter called this place an 8th rate blog and where Jeff wasn’t so happy about that.*
Thanks so much for linking to the top of an 800 comment thread rather than the comment itself! I didn’t even remember him making that comment, though I recall him noting that Ferret World or some such site gets more visitors than PW, and that was at least witty (for newrouter) in its dickishness.
“I disagree with your definitions of both romanticizing and mocking.”
I’ll try again to leave any possibly controversial comments to the experts, but sometimes I get in a mood and forget. I’ll try and do better.
The Sierra’s are strangely brown for January…
The tall grass prairies are unusually brown for January around here.
Not that the brown is unusual. It’s just unusual to be able to see all of it this time of year.
Nope, “Nelly” is Nellie.
When I got awake in the morning I hastily threw up the window shade and eagerly looked out. I fell back in surprise, wondering, if for once in my life I had made a mistake and waked up early. I could not see any more than I had the night before on account of a heavy gray fog that completely hid everything more than a yard away. Looking at the watch on my wrist I found that it was ten o’clock, so I dressed with some haste determined to find the guard and demand an explanation of him.
“It is a most extraordinary thing,” he said to me; “I never saw such a fog in Italy before.”
There was nothing for it except to sit quietly counting the days I had been away from New York; subtracting them from the number that must elapse before my return. When this grew monotonous I carefully thought over the advisability of trying to introduce brown uniforms for railroad employees in the United States. I thought with wearied frenzy of the universal employment of navy-blue uniforms in America, and I turned with rest to the neat brown uniforms brightened with a touching of gold braid on the collars and cuffs, that adorned the conductor and porter of the India mail.
But even this subject would not fill the day, so I began to notice the difference between the whistles employed on these engines and those at home. There was no deafening, ear-racking blast from these, but plaintive sounds, pitched in a high key that was very soprano indeed, compared with our bass whistles.
I noticed in Italy, as in all the other countries where I found railroads, that trains are started by a blast from a tin horn–horns such as those that take conspicuous places in political campaigns once every four years, succeeding, by the aid of enthusiastic campaigners, in making night hideous for several months preceding the election.
In most cases these horn-blowers seemed to be located at the station, but in France and Italy they occupied the front platform of a coach, and I noticed, with amusement, that the tin horns were chained to them.
*”nelly”*
nelly bly should be bound and laid across the horseshoe curve to be run over by a pennsy k4
“(for newrouter) in its dickishness.”
i’m more an a-hole ymmv
I’d rather prefer the India Mail.
nah the broadway limited
“leigh posted on 1/5 @ 1:58 pm
Lee, was that your car on the roof on the news today?”
Funniest damn thing, my dad called me from Canada last night, and asked me the same thing. I didn’t know what he was talking about either.
Apparently it made international news, and I missed the whole thing.