Turns out Cain himself is responsible for 17 texts, almost always in response to messages from Ms White.
Not that such a disproportionate arrangement proves anything, but it certainly suggestive — particularly given Ms White’s documented history of stalking.
Which is why I’ve been willing — still, because it’s what we should be doing as conservatives with conservatives under these kinds of circumstances — to give Cain the benefit of the doubt.
And likely one of the reasons Cain’s attorney “sent a letter to White’s attorney, Edward Buckley, asking for her phone records to ‘test her credibility and motive’ for coming forward to the media. Wood, in the letter, said he wanted to ‘ascertain whether the decision to grant interviews was politically motivated and to determine whether she has received or [been] promised money for participating.'”
(h/t Rush)
9 times in 11 months. That’s quite a record of payment. And this is just precious.
At some point in this farce, some woman, maybe this one, is going to come forward claiming a long term romantic relationship with Cainin which their love for one another is so pure, so noble, so EPIC that they’ve never tainted it with anything as tawdry as, you know, sex.
DOES THAT DIRTY PERVERT LUST AFTER OTHER WOMEN IN HIS HEART? WE DEMAND TO KNOW!
She will be completely discredited, and it won’t make a difference, because an accusation of bad behavior is enough for a pragmatic Republican. There are a lot of pragmatists, and our “betters” encourage us to be more like them.
Here’s the headline, at that bastion of conservatism the Wall Street Journal- Study: Racial Bias Cost Obama 3 to 5 Points in 2008 Election.
Here’s an alternative headline that you could have teased out of the same data: Blacks almost twice as racist as whites.
White racism is claimed to have cost Mr. Obama between 3 and 5 percentage points of the popular vote. If you go down to the very last paragraph of the story, you see that by the same measures Mr. Obama overachieves among black voters enough to increase his popular vote totals by 1.2 percentage points over a white Democrat(Kerry). The ratio of white voters to black voter is 76.4%/12.1%(2008 vote percentages, Pee-ew) = 6.3. The ratio of racially lost white votes (average case) to racially added black votes = 4/1.2 = 3.3.
So if whites were as racist as blacks (according to the labeling and numbers this Harvard Economics PhD candidate is producing) he would have lost almost twice as many white votes. Let us know how that’s received around the faculty lounge.
Face it: Herman Cain has sexed up every woman in the United States, including your mom!
Speaking of the subject of this post, whatever it is:
FUN WITH EXONYMS!
At what point do you slide into douche-dom by using the native name (endonym) or pronunciation?
Is it pretentious to say “Don Quijote” as the Spanish say it (don-key-HO-tay) instead of “don kwix-ot,” the proper English pronunciation? (Wasn’t there a puppet called “Donkey Hotey” on one of them kids’ shows?)
Ought one to refer to a Mexican immigrant named María as “Mary”?
Is “Beijing” more pretentious than “Peking”? “Mumbai” than “Bombay”?
What if you speak the language or have been to the country? If you’ve been to Finland and learned Finnish, is using “Suomi” pretentious or correct or merely confusing?
And what about Burma/Myanmar, the latter being the official name given by the thugs currently in charge, whereas the locals prefer Burma and besides, they hate the thugs?
And look at how I put an accent in “María”: English conventions would not pronounce it differently than “Maria,” whereas Spanish convention would make the latter MAR-eeyah.
Meh. I’ll say what I want and let the chips fall where they may.
Imagine how bad it might have been if White Guilt weren’t so fashionable?
How do you pronounce the wind, Di?
Saying nee-ha-HRA-wha for Nicaragua? Pretentious.
Saying POCK-ee-stonn? Presidential.
I pronounce “decimate” DEH-va-state. And to piss people off I spell it like it sounds.
Is still pretentious when it’s pronounced that way by a mixed ethnicity “performance art” troupe seeking to elevate consciousness and raise awareness about the plight of the Nee-Cah-Rah-Whan people?
Because I had to suffer through 30 minutes of that shit in Jr. High —back in the bad ‘ol days when that sonofabitch warmonger Reagan was going to get us into another Vietnam in Central America because he wouldn’t let those poor land reforming Sandanistas alone when all they wanted to do was save their country from Dole Pineapple.
Or some damn thing.
William Jacobson writes up Cain’s fight.
Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield I & II both in Lost Wages and both while he was head of the NRA. Does everything all come back to that 3 year period? Why?
It’s been a joke that this has been because the only time he had prolonged contact with people who gravitate to D.C. was during his tenure at the restaurant association.
I’ve stopped laughing.
it’s definitely very possible the obamawhore socialists hate and fear black conservatives enough to suborn this chippie
but at best this is still a lay down with dogs story
Coulter on Cain.
Rush transcript.
And that do-gooder Jesus, always hanging out with sinners! Don’t get me started!
Jesus he wants to go to Venus
leave Levon far behind
Doesn’t that comment belong one post up?
No presidential candidate should have to associate with those icky voters. You just can’t know where they’ve been.
hah you made me scroll
“but at best this is still a lay down with dogs story”
Sometimes friends stab you in the back. Best not to have any, I say
Saying nee-ha-HRA-wha for Nicaragua?
OMG! You’re Pat Gray!
Actually, nee-kah-RAH-gwa is the Spanish pronunciation. Dunno who thought the gua was pronounced like an H.
Oh yes I do: It’s those fool Arizonans who pronounce the tall cactus “sah-WAH-roh” when it’s spelled “saGUAro.”
Meh. Who knows what the Opata were thinking. If they wanted the gringos to use WAH instead of GWA, they should have spelled it like that.
I thought the most significant thing Rush said today was that if Obama is re-elected, that’s “the ballgame”. The context was Obama needing “four more years to finish the job” and ObamaCare, but it’s clear that damn Hobbit Rush was speaking more broadly.
2016 is too late.
What about Maria Hinojosa pronouncing her own name on NPR?
When I go to Boston, must I start dropping my r’s the way Obama drops his g’s in front of selected groups?
So you’re tellin’ me that Arizonans (and trendy PC idiots) would pronounce the name of this band “HWAR”?
Learn something every day.
Yes, John, it absolutely follows. No question.
On the other hand, there is Bad Borrowing from another language, my favorite being “cajones” instead of “cojones.”
“Cajones” are bureau drawers. If you need to remember the correct spelling, the letters “ojo” should provide a visual mnemonic.
so your cojones can get stuck in your cajones. sux to be you mrjones.
Stupidly I’m going to answer my own question from #13.
If you are setting out to frame someone it is crucial to know what they actually did at the time you are using as the when the event that “proves” the frame happened. Non-publicly available information, with details would be best. Can’t set them up to plausibly have been in say LA when they were in DC at a meeting.
Having an “in” at the Chicago NRA office makes that time period the one to use in every attempt. I’d bet there was some NRA event in Las Vegas at the time of at least one of the Tyson fights.
Motionview, 2016 is too late, IMHO. There’s a line of thought saying if enough conservatives(already a tall order, if separated from the broader set; “republicans”)we might hold on, through gridlock if nothing else.
I have my doubts. The only way we save the day is if we reverse Obamacare first and cripple public unions second thing. We need the presidency, the congress, AND ACTUAL ACTION if we are to accomplish that, and preserve the republic for our prodigy.
I fear if Romney is elected, we will at best only slow the momentum of the left, and that won’t be enough. We gotta have someone elected to president(NO O!) with a warriors heart, and a meat ax. For that reason alone, God help me, I’d take Ron Paul over Romney, Huntsman, and maybe even Perry and Bachmann. We must have someone that will unseat the established ruling class, or America will indeed become irrevocably “transformed” into something else.
Oops, that should read : There’s a line of thought saying if enough conservatives(already a tall order, if separated from the broader set; “republicans”)are elected to congress we might hold on, through gridlock if nothing else.
Aren’t those fixes still things merely sitting on the surface of American life though Lee? That is, the underlying problems, the more fundamental problems and in consequence, the harder to cure problems, are as much the condition of the failure of education for the vast majority of the American people about their political order, which has in turn lead to the crisis phenomena we see on every hand at the surface? So treating the symptoms at the surface won’t go very far to getting at the corrupt condition which caused them?
In another sense, America was already transformed long before Barack Obama came to office. He hasn’t done much that’s remarkable in a world historical sense (he really is an incompetent twit), in that view, save push what was already in place a bit further — hopefully, too far for the tolerance of Americans generally — hence the occasionally encountered argument that Obama is himself a good thing towards the recovery of American exceptionalism, by being such a bad executive.
Eviction papers served on Cain accuser for $7,500 back rent
Narrative as “news”.
No, no, no – it’s spelt Raymond Luxury Yacht, but it’s pronounced ‘Throatwobbler Mangrove’
(with Spanish subtitles for dicentra)
sdferr, I know where you’re coming from, and completely agree. I’m speaking of the necessary emergency measures that must be taken NOW, though.
If Obamacare becomes established it’s over. If it isn’t stopped now, it never will. First order of business.
Government employment has grown 12% under Obama, while the private sector withers. We talk of doing away with departments and bureaucracies like the EPA, and indeed, if we are to return to a limited government republic, that has to be job two. But that won’t even begin to happen til public unions go, at least as they are now. What Walker did in Wisconsin is what the next president must do nationally, before we can even hope to regain control of the always expanding government.
As long as there are public sector unions, government won’t shrink a notch. Subduing them must be a second priority.
Of course that’s just my opinion, and I’m all ears as to any other education reforms you may have.
since fed gov’t workers were established by exec. order the gop cand. needs to revoke this order.
unions
All in Lee, so far as near term change goes, and you’ve outlined it well for a start. Achieving those changes of course, can be made easier, or simpler, where the people have the back of the reformer/reshapers. I saw Gov. Walker talking about his reforms a couple of days ago, presented with the question “What would you do differently about your reforms, given the severe backlash, knowing what you know now that you didn’t know then?” He says, I’d still want to do what we did, without any changes to that, but I would have spent great gobs of time and energy going up and down the state informing and educating the people about what and why we were going to do what we did between the time I was elected in Nov. and the time at which we put the laws into process in March (or whenever it was the following Spring). If the people have their governors backs, he was saying (and this comes about through their assent to what they understand and are informed on), the governors can do much.
As to education? That’s a long long discussion.
The crash of the world economies, including the collapse of the dollar, will make most if not all Washington actions moot, especially given that we can’t trust the GOP to do squat.
It might fall apart within a year, and definitely before 2016.
singin’ do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do
If I were an anti-government, conspiratorial-minded paranoic, I’d say were being set up for a GOP President and Congress that won’t be able to do squat, even were they differently inclined. All so they can be blamed for the inevitable collapse, just like the hapless Hoover era GOP. Then the socialists can ride in to the rescue and impose their one-size-fits-al-no-problem-too-big “solutions.” These solutions, naturally, will be the same solutions they’ve been offering to every problem since the Gilded Age.
Good things that’s just crazy talk, right?
what’s the 2nd verse?
2nd verse: lay back and think of England.
“Achieving those changes of course, can be made easier, or simpler, where the people have the back of the reformer/reshapers.”
I think we could go a long way toward that sdferr, if we could show everyone how much the MSM(including Hollywood) massaged reality and shaped their minds.
Having said that, I think a large portion of the population isn’t so much hampered by lack of education or knowledge, as by being apathetic in their disinterest.
I’m busy, ya know…and that’s why we got a president, right? So I can worry about my own life and not that stuff…
I used to be one of those.
Grown ups are certainly busy, high schoolers and college kids, not so much . . . yet these students aren’t given a chance, falling victims to indoctrinations and obscurantism blotting out their own political heritage. It’s a fucking crime, without being criminal.
It would also help if we had a Republican Presidential candidate running on those big changes and asking for our support —what used to be called a mandate.
More crazy talk, I know.
A month or two back, Romney was in my area speaking to the Chamber of Commerce or the Rotary Club or some business group. The next day the some State or local Democrat Party spokeshack had some statement (naturally I can’t find it now) about how horrible Mitt Romney was because of all that corporate raidering he did back in the Bain Capital days. I remember thinking that if Mitt Romney was promising a hostile takeover of the Federal Government and to do what this spokeshack was saying Romney used to do in the private sector, I could get behind that.
But hey, those Federal employees vote too, y’know.
Ei yi yi. Herman on Hannity defending himself. “I text a lot of people! I help a lot of people!”
Stop digging, Mr. Cain.
“Grown ups are certainly busy, high schoolers and college kids, not so much”
eh, for every one giving in to his inner OWie, there’s ten(or a hundred?) who’s only concern is taking care of business, and being socially acceptable enough to get a little action.
There has come about a huge skewing of cultural priorities, and common sense has fallen victim to relativism.
I think the problems are several layers below where even you describe. Perhaps it’s merely the result of success, and the inevitable end result of too much ease and not enough humility and gratefulness.
Anyway, I say 2016 is too late, but the truth is, I think it’s too late already. The rot is too deep, and events are out of control.
I’m just stocking up and waiting for it to get bloody.
we walk on to my door then we text a little more
“There has come about a huge skewing of cultural priorities, and common sense has fallen victim to relativism.”
Here you write as though this were some passive event befallen from the skies. It isn’t. This is the active core in need of correction, the very nexus of what ought to be American education.
Heh, happy. I bet it’s not a happy house at Chez Cain.
“But, baby…” “Don’t you ‘baby’ me!!”
True words, sdferr. Education is supposed to be the search for the truth, not the obfuscation thereof.
If it’s true, it’s not digging.
Try not to be so sane leigh.
sarah palin suxs moose dick
It doesn’t look good, Ernst. It could all be quite innocent.
Like I said yesterday to geoffb, he gave his statement Tuesday, should refer people to that and talk about his new ad which is quite good.
sarah palin also suxs ailes dick
You know a lot about Sarah Palin.
i hope sarah palin gets andy to investigate cain. what a loser the grizzley idiot is.
no sarah palin got hosed the mbm. she seems happy that herb is getting hosed.
Where did you see that?
Sarah Palin say something that I don’t know about, or is newrouter into his cups?
watching hannity
She said it on Hannity? On teevee or his radio show? I just walked through the room earlier when Herman was on.
sarah palin had her chance tonight on hannity to help the cause. she failed.
Can you link a transcript when it’s up?
hannity had to walk the stupid snowhoochie back. she’s not too self aware.
jeez the idiot snowhoochie just had to read effin’ coulter to know what’s going on. hf thanx
hah and he sees her face to face tomorrow for the first time leigh
Lemme guess, it was the “I know exactly what he’s going through because they did this too me too.” part, right nr? Or was it the “If he didn’t do this than what they’re doing to him is despicable.” bit?
Oooh, what I would pay to be a fly on the wall…
Is your sister visiting this week? Did she bring the new husband? Is the kid who smokes weed in your old room going to remember to feed the rescue dogs or did she make sure someone else is doing that?
Tell me where you went to eat and Christmas shop!
she was here we had a fun and expensive day – husband is back in Texas…. here is most of my trip … it was too short
no it was no being able to have a coherent view effin’ 3 years later. stay in ak and be stupid. and the moose stew recipe.
what reading coulter is difficult for the snow idiot? not a serious rein deer.
It sounds like you had fun. My little brother lives in Austin. I miss him, but not his wife too much.
here is the video mr. newrouter
“Like They Say, ‘Boys Will Be Boys,’ But They Shouldn’t Run The Country”
Austin is the future it’s really exciting to see
hah she used the word broad instead of chippie
Austin is the coolest. It’s too bad our mom won’t move there, but she isn’t too friendly with the SIL, either.
Mrs. Palin looks like she is wearing her housecoat in that video.
yea ms. palin’s choice of clothes says idiot and trailer trash. allan help us.
Lay off the Drano, nr.
nah palin is an idiot for all to see. keep that fox spot alive next to parker, frum,brookes et al
sure let’s show up a national show in a bath robe. effin’ genius that snowbilly.
You got upset enough to sit on your own testicles over a fucking joke?
the sarah palin joke? eff idiots in ak. that loser don’t want to win.
If all you care about is winning, there’s plenty of room on the Romney train.
that ak asshole could have been talking the keystone thing 2 months ago. that ak loser, who didn’t want imperil her fox gig, would have denounced the war on fracking 2 months ago. eff the red robed idiot in ak.
“there’s plenty of room on the Romney train.”
sarah be moving on up
You start babbling about your latest adventure at the botique confectioner’s or your latest favorite ethnic eatery and you’ll sound just like the pikachu. That’s a lot of invective wasted on somebody who’s out of politics.
Good Allah, nr.
I thought the rumor was she was going to endorse Newt
“That’s a lot of invective wasted on somebody who’s out of politics.”
no the snowbilly showing up in a bath robe on national tv signals ” a big middle finger” . at whom feel free to speculate. me: a conservative is currently being raked and you say nothing. eff’ you.
She’s being coy, Ernst. Like usual.
Also, why do you care what Coulter has to say when she’s giving Mitt her sloppy seconds?
Well it’s not like there were a lot of conservatives rising to her defense when she was under the gun, were there?
I love the bath robe “fuck you”* I think that shows the appropriate disdain for the whole subject.
To say nothing of the forum.
And perhaps the host.
*Full disclosure: I’m stuck in the mid to late 90s, technologically speaking, so I haven’t seen the video. I’ll take your word for it that she was overly casually attired.
For those who don’t wish to give Media Matters the hits, here.
It’s not a bathrobe, but more like Mrs. Claus’s furry version of Santa’s overcoat.
She’s being coy, Ernst. Like usual.
Good for Palin. Nobody respects a woman who seems too eager.
The robe said Christmas to me along with the tree in the background.
I’ve got no problem with what I heard.
We shall see in the next week what’s what.
Three fairly prominent Republican politicians (at least) have already declaimed that they won’t be endorsing anyone this campaign season. Perhaps Palin is simply thinking to join them.
The bathrobe kind of undercuts the message, no?
Maybe she has a cold. It’s four hours earlier in Alaska than NY.
Does anyone else wonder whether Putin’s plastic surgeon has already been taken out into the woods and shot?
I’m betting Putin hunted him down himself.
Depends on the message leigh. I take as saying she can’t be bothered with this shit.
Which, come to think of it, is just what you advised Cain to say.
Thank you. I knew you’d ome around. (insert smiley icon here)
no ms.palin is an idiot that is all
clever girl
“I take as saying she can’t be bothered with this shit.”
real fighter there. she fights like a grrl.
nah sarah palin: todd palin’s whore to make money. take that you lisa murkowski types. go big gov’t.
Explain to me again why she’s supposed to fight for Herman Cain?
Congratulations. You’ve now reached happyfeet level jackassery.
“Explain to me again why she’s supposed to fight for Herman Cain?”
the idiot from ak should fight stupid stuff for all the gop cand. to defeat the mbm. it ain’t hard.
where the effi’ is Todd Palin? Mrs. Cain seems front and center? we be talking what? oh yea “family values”. santorum!!!
Behind the camera, duh.
Fuck this. Like reading thor/nishi blend that’s hit the box wine.
full dis-closer: i’ve purchased Vanuatu shares.
the idiot from ak should fight stupid stuff for all the gop cand.
Because the GOP did such an outstanding job of standing up for her, eh?
“Like reading thor/nishi blend that’s hit the box wine.”
nah more like finding the status quo is falling apart. viva che!
newrouter’s just spittin’ out words to see where they splatter geoff.
“Becaause the GOP did such an outstanding job of standing up for her, eh?”
you know a effin’ person from the unpolitical class might take on these bastards
viva che!
That’s appropriate. He was another guy who was mad at the world and didn’t know why.
I think she did take them on newrouter, as best she could. And the political class was happy to let her take the slings and arrows.
box wine.
after you slime folks what do you do?
It ain’t capitalization, that’s for sure.
“I think she did take them on newrouter, ”
yes that was a nice robe she was wearing. maybe victoria secrets next time. she’s a dumb scrunt.
ms. sarah can’t defend a conservative man. she sux todd palin’s dick.
If Todd’s lucky…
Is somebody holding auditions for a Thor sequel?
WTF? WTF difference does it make that her damn sweater is a little too fuzzy for TV. What the hell is wrong with you that you think this matters?
What you said, McGehee.
Amazing what sets some people off.
Go give your new best buds hf a bj, nr.
that’s not very christmassy
He can alternate with a candy cane.
Make the broad give a description of his willie.
What? Evidence?
Nah, I’m just interested.
Ed Driscoll, Moral Equivalence at its Zenith:
See also Driscoll’s followup post, Obama, #Occupyfail accelerates ‘the Great Relearning’, as it too ties to the running theme.
OK, at the risk of being yelled at, I’m disappointed in What Palin had to say also.
I mean first she said(I’ll be paraphrasing of course) double standard, unfair, blah, blah, but if he did have an affair, he shouldn’t be president, blah, blah, blah. OK, fair enough.
What got me was when Hannity said it should be easy to find out if it’s true or not, Palin said yes, and unfortunately in todays climate, he has to prove his innocence.
I found that troubling, and kinda hypocritical.
Not only did she not immediatly start paternity tests to prove Trig was her baby for Sullivans silliness, she pretty much acted to the accusations as Cain is doing now, but now she wants Cain to PROVE his dick was unwetted by Ginger. Play the lefts game by their rules. Dance to the liars tune.
I’m not where newrouter is, but Palins stock has dropped in my eyes.
Oh, and she was wearing a fuzzy sweater, so what? What are we, Joan Rivers now?
I’d guess that what she meant is, he has to prove his innocence to silence the media attack dogs. Not that he has to prove his innocence to be voteworthy.
How do you prove you didn’t fuck somebody?
Hannity tried to help her even, by saying shouldn’t she have hotel receipts or something before we take the charge seriously, and she insisted he had to prove he was innocent.
Again, how do you do that, and why should he have to? She of all people should know better.
I think I could state authoritatively that I did not fuck Marilyn Monroe, and there’d be no end of people ready to believe me. Until I became a somewhat-credible candidate for public office, that is.
The fact that she died shortly after I turned 1 may or may not be relevant.