Top tier candidate. Serious. Sober. Pragmatic. And just what we need to draw in “moderates.” Because unlike the conservatives in the field, Huntsman wouldn’t let the US “default” by way of, well, not defaulting — and insisting that any increase in our debt limit be counterbalanced by commensurate cuts in spending. And unlike the conservatives in the field, Huntsman believes the “rich” aren’t sacrificing enough already by paying the majority of all federal income tax, and driving what’s left of the private sector economy — and so he would definitely call on them to sacrifice more, to give their fair share back to the common weal.
Which is why he’s going to be my write-in candidate. For the Democrat primaries.
Remember: it was the Rove / Will / Krauthammer establishment branch of the GOP intelligentsia who told us that the only serious candidates were Romney, Jeb Bush, Pawlenty, Daniels, and Huntsman — and that, say, Palin or Bachmann couldn’t be trusted with nuclear codes, were not “experienced” enough to be President, and wouldn’t appeal to the very independent voters who swung in throngs toward the TEA Party platform in the 2010 midterm elections.
For those of you keeping score at home.
Huntsman’s job is to give the Democrats a “good” Republican to put on talking head shows and slam us. He’s doing it well. I don’t think he has a prayer of winning the nomination.
As for the pundits, they are stuck in the 90s and the beltway. The mood of the country has turned and I don’t think it will turn back. They can either get a clue or sink further into irrelevance. In the mean time, while I will listen to Krauthammer, I make my own decisions.
Huntsman is performing flawlessly per his contractual arrangement with the DNC. Next the Democrats will make it worth Donald Trump’s while to run as a third party candidate. Sounds expensive — but remember that even if the untraceable credit card donations to Team Obama dry up this time around, laundered “stimulus funds” are now available to trickle out of the wordwork here and there, tiny rivulets combining once again into a mighty torrent just like in ’08.
Tricks and schemes — they got a million of them.
Well, he’s got Warren Buffett’s vote.
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What’s that? Buffett’s supporting Obama?
Ohhhhhhhhhhh.
Never mind.
I have no trouble at all with the government asking rich Americans to sacrifice. It’s the commanding part (which is done while pretending that you asked) that I have some trouble with.
Because nothing is sure to revive the economy like transfering more wealth from the productive and redistributing it among the non-productive.
Please remember that this Mormon claims to be “not overly religious,” i.e., he ain’t one of us. No True Mormon would parrot socialism’s talking points.
Well wait, Ernst. Non productive people are not productive enough to try and be productive with other non productive people in order to … in order to …
Um … I’ll get back to you on that … or dump my head several tomes in a large toilet.
No, seriously.
Pay no attention to RomneyCare.
Um … Slart? Is it commanding part that revives or a revival part that commands?
Hmmmm.
Romney care? Who that?!
Look! Bunnies!
I know who’s not sharing in the sacrifice.
Don’t be surprised when the Krugster starts telling us about all the awesome policy examples Huntsman saw first-hand while serving as the Obassador to China.
baracky working hard on job creation
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Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick! I saw a headline and thought, “INS,” and you’re telling me it’s about fucking wood?!?!
What’s sick about the Gibson raid is that Gibson already pays its protection money! See that stuff above about the company working with Greenpeace and Rainforest Alliance and Forest Stewardship Council? That’s the protection racket that U.S. companies (and Western companies in general) have to buy into if they want to remain unmolested.
I seriously hope the guys at Gibson revisit their policy on this one. If you pay protection, and your business gets busted up anyway, then you’re not paying the right crime family.
i like the enforcement of other countries laws
Apparently Gibson is a non-union shop.
Gibson needs to pay its fair share.
Gibson just needs to hire 40 or 50 undocumented-people-with-really-good-tans (I think that’s what they’re called now). Then the feds wouldn’t come anywhere near the place, for fear of seeing something unhelpful.
Shared sacrifce?
Eat me, Huntsman!
I am noticing that Huntsman is the overwhelming favorite of concern trolls.
I guess Huntsman is this election’s McCain.
More likely Gibson will move its “exotic woods” guitar plant overseas … and then the Dummiecrats will complain about the Loss Of American Jobs….
that dog won’t huntsman
so when is huntsman going to give his family’s fortune to the gov’t?
The phrase “made in America” is still a draw when buying a guitar for some people. I doubt they’ll move the plant.
Didn’t someone, whether Darleen or Dan, but someone, cover these absurd exotic wood regulations back about a year and a half or two ago when they were promulgated? My memory stinks, but it seems to me they did, and the stupidity of the regs was no lesser then than it is now, i.e. get caught with a stick of unlicensed rosewood, go to jail.
eric at classical values had a post
Where were you when wood became a felony?
Good job newrouter: that was indeed the stuff, or “hule”, as Aristotle would have put it.
I swear, I had never even heard of Huntsman, until he was suddenly popping up everywhere as the Great Establishment Hope of the GOP and inside-the-Beltway pundits everywhere. Yeah, another GOP, go-along-to-get-along, polite and neutered establishment career pol … just what we needed!
“I’m not going to say ‘higher taxes’.”
This Huntsman feller won’t make a stand on anything, so I think a debate between this airy-fairy dude & the Obfuscatin’ O would make for great, polite, and very very confuzzling, teevee.
According to this ‘Select Smart‘ quiz, my ideal presidential candidate is “1. Ideal Theoretical Candidate”. No one exists who’ll fit my requirements.
But, 2. Gingrich; 3. Santorum; 4. Cantor; 5. Pence; and finally, 6. Palin.
Huntsman comes in at 26, just above Trump. Surprisingly, Cain was 25.
Oh. And Barack Obama, 24. Something is amiss here methinks.
Wow. Joe Biden at 20, beats out Rick Perry at 21. I blew the damned thing’s gasket.
Put them both in the baskets of identical hot air balloons with no propane (carbon free the way to be) for the debate. The winner is the one who gets the most altitude.
Except for, you know, not having a chance in hell of getting the nomination.
I was thinking that Huntsman, like McCain, is the Democrat choice for the Republican nominee.
he’s a fucking south park character
he’s daddy’s little boy
The something that is wrong with that quiz may be how they decide what the positions of the candidates are. Speeches, position papers, statements are one thing, positions that have changed over time or that bob and weave on subjects can be taken for support when they don’t actually do so. What they have actually done is more accurate.
Mine had Lindsey Graham (79%), Boehner (81%) and Mitt (80%), beating Palin (77%),Bachmann (68%), and Perry (53%) with Santorum (92%) at the top.
Screwy.
Science!
I’d like to talk with a Huntsman supporter so they could explain his appeal.
Never met one though. In person or online.
Strange that, he has a reasonably large family.
>>Except for, you know, not having a chance in hell of getting the nomination.
Nonsense! This here is America. The land where any boy [or girl] can grow up to become President!
Except for you dirty dirty teabaggers
Does wood come under the FDA somehow? Perhaps they can figure a way, after all the Norks eat bark, that’s pretty near India, right? Holder logic will be involved, no work need be shown or done.
mr. ace is proud of his SCOAMF campaign
perhaps mr. huntsman needs a pw version?
“Does wood come under the FDA somehow”
nah another pos pelosi bill that mr. sellout conservative signed. stay out of the bushes.
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True. I was pointing out a difference, not attempting to refute. I probably should have added, “…thank God.”
and i don’t miss him at all
I’m dense at times, McGehee. Most of the time, really.
I got 4 questions deep and found two that didn’t have an acceptable answer. #3, ferinstance, should have a “both”. It doesn’t.
Re: #48 Hole Fuck! And yet, I’m not really the least bit surprised.
We really need to reboot.
No, Pablo. “Holy fuck!” is how you spell it. Dumbass.
Technically, there’s never really been a non-hole fuck, Pablo.
Too much?
i’m wondering why gwb is held in any esteem? after ’06 he pretty much sold out conservatism to keep his self induced iraq clusterf**k going. bush,rove,krautloser,kristol,will the cheerleaders of neo wilson sucked big time. eff the proggs and their rinosaur brothers.
Too much?
Not at all. Besides, you forgot about the rather pointless art of titty-fucking.
Now it’s too much.
Esteem newrouter? Really?
Right, but that’s why the Holy ones are special, bh. I know it worked, it just wasn’t what I was after.
I don’t blame GWB for not being a conservative, because he never claimed he was one, and he proved that time and time again, even before 06. The only people who think he was/is conservative are progressives, to whom anyone to the right of Marx is a moderate at best.
nr, have you noticed how iraq and SA are the only countries in the neighborhood that aren’t on fire?
Bush won Iraq. People should say that more than they do.
i despise karltherover because after ’04 he could have push the cons’ agenda but he pushed the karltherover agenda.
timid bald headed gimp
“because he never claimed he was one,”
someone mentioned “compassionate conservative”
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Compassionate conservatism, in the way executed by Bush, was not conservatism. I never believed it was either.
However, you have evidence he (mistakenly) called himself conservative, and I cannot refute that. I’m not sure anyone who is conservative bought it, though.
“nr, have you noticed how iraq and SA are the only countries in the neighborhood that aren’t on fire? ”
iraq is on fire. because the mbm doesn’t showcase it doesn’t mean it ain’t in meltdown. google iraq kurds or iraq christians? the “stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure” is on display.
All I mean is that he couldn’t “betray” conservatism because he never really believed in it.
Iraq now isn’t attributable to Bush though is it newrouter? A fellow named Obama has been in charge since Jan 2009.
“I’m not sure anyone who is conservative bought it, though.”
yes they did and that’s the problem. the bushes are a bs clan. they are kennedys of the rethuglican clan. i say eff you to the lot of them. rove,krautloser et al are clowns. we gotta flush the ruling class from at least 1 of these parties.
“Iraq now isn’t attributable to Bush though is it newrouter?”
no. but at the time iraq was gwb no.1 priority. that’s why we have expanded medicare benies. ted kennedy’s price.
I can see this is a fruitless question, so will leave it at that.
We have two important questions before us. Is a titty-fuck possible? Was Bush a conservative?
To the first, we have the chimera of an artificial hole. Much like a handjob. Delightful, yet it is not a true hole. To wit, hands and tits can perform a task extremely well but still not become a different thing. Much like a male actor skillfully playing a female role on Shakespeare’s stage. (That’s a killer analogy, I think.)
What’s so awesome about this framing, bh?
Answers the second question, too. That’s what’s so awesome.
“All I mean is that he couldn’t “betray” conservatism because he never really believed in it.”
no gwb is a beltway boy like fred, marisa, baracky et al. “ruling” class losers. this is the battle going forward to defeat this entrenched special self interest.
“I can see this is a fruitless question, so will leave it at that.”
“yes” would work closer to my intention @70. binary questions with nuance are hard to answer for dunderheads.
Harriett Miers.
mr.sdferr the aforementioned dunderhead is me to avoid confusion.
i also like mr. “miss me yet” through his lack of convictions or principles through total refusal to defend his cause forced the conservatives into the role of spokes person for the 1st “stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure”. hey give me another.
Any chance the SEC will investigate this rich guy?Obama calls Buffett, Buffett buys $5B of BoA, that buy signal makes Buffett $280M in one day.
Any chance in the world Buffett makes that investment without Obama letting him know that the Fed or someone will backstop BoA?
Is that an “on paper” sort of “make” motionview? Buffet is hardly the buy and flip out of it kind of guy, I mean, so I suspect he hasn’t “made” anything until he sells, which, again, he is very slow to do. Not that I’m sticking up for the insideryness of the deal, just that paper gains are no gains at all.
It’s the Middle East, Jake. As things go these days, that’s fairly low level shit. These people like killing each other over stupid shit. It’s what they do. It could be worse. They could be Afghans.
It could be better too, Pablo. Obama could have supported the Green revolt, rather than side with the Mullahs.
Bush was a Compassionate Conservative. Which is bullshit. I’m more of a Go Fuck Yourself conservative.
There’s probably less there than you’d guess, motionview. People were talking about that possibility as soon as BAC tanked and then stayed tanked.
Uncle Warren gets his terms because he comes to the table with billions and billions. Any of us could do the same if we had that sort of juice.
Yeah, but that was a touchy situation, sdferr. Unlike hiding behind Sarkozy.
mr. pablo i’ve become a good eff yourself bush tea party person. man stay out of the bushes or rommneys or huntsman.
Then too, since the notion that trouble at home would restrict the Iranian regime’s ability to play abroad, I suppose I should apply the same strictures to Obama himself, eh? Any tyrant worth his salt knows better than to over-extend when there’s revolt in the capital air.
I’d suggest that you consider that we really don’t have a President, sdferr. We have but a campaign. And a virus.
This POTUS won’t go into Tehran any more than he’ll disturb Damascus. Unless France likes the idea. Also, China.
This avatar seems familiar.
You guys and your reality-based commenting. I was practicing my union grapevine innuendo attacks.
Huntsman can suck my dick.
I mean that in a non-homosexual bashing way. Which should be evident, since I don’t have the aforementioned dick. It’s a figurative dick.
Thank you, Carin.
Early morning belly laughs are a very good thing.
Speaking of plant felonies, I heard this morning that the EPA is filing a racial-discrimination suit against…someone. The state of California? Some agribusiness? Doesn’t matter.
Here’s the basis: their contention is that methyl bromide, which is evidently used to kill bugs in the soil prior to planting, is used in higher amounts near schools that tilt highly hispanic, because of the fact that said schools are situated closer to growing areas than normal.
Although the concern is not misplaced, the racial aspect of it has got some high WTF quotient.
NPR of course wants to play this stuff on the radio today and thus doesn’t have it on their website yet. I’ll throw out a link when I can find it.
EPA’s version of things seems to be at disagreement with what I heard on NPR.
My extremely liberal co-worker thinks Huntsman is the only republican candidate who is not an “extremist” and “teabagger” and thusly, the only viable republican candidate.
Speaking of government over-reach, (hey if slart can go OT, can’t I?) has anyone discussed why the SEC is investigating Fracking?
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I agree with the trackback from DailyPundit: Spongejoe needs to watch his back.
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It’s almost as if someone went and erased all notion of jurisdiction from every government agency while we weren’t looking.
I mean, I can see that the EPA might get involved. But the SEC? Having the Securities and Exchange Commission insert itself into the fracking debate makes about the same amount of sense as if it were e.g. the South East Conference doing that.
It’s really just unbelievable.
Slart,
I’d rather it was the SEC looking at it, than the SEC…
Just looking at this jerk’s face puts me in a homophobic mood.
Shared sacrifice? Does that mean that I have to drop trou and stick my butt in the air for him to do what he will? I think so. Where the hell did this idiot come from?
There are some morons who just DON’T GET IT!
Mars is my best guess as to his origin.
I think the economy would do better if we sacrificed politicians and government bureaucrats.