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Obama: 69% of Americans, or "the public at large," are too stupid to have any input in how to govern

No wonder this guy thinks the Constitution a “flawed document”: it gives voice to those who aren’t “professional politicians” — and such people really need to keep their bitter clinger mouths shut and let the super smart people (who can be identified by their having never done much besides tell others what they should be doing) do the heavy lifting.

— Which, if the President wants to take this tack, I say we emulate, and tell him that those nearly 50% of the voting public who don’t pay taxes are not engaged enough in the economic system to merit any say whatever in policy, and should probably not get to vote.

Sound good?

50 Replies to “Obama: 69% of Americans, or "the public at large," are too stupid to have any input in how to govern”

  1. cause no one ever cares about what they are paying for. doofus.

  2. Carin says:

    Obama’s such a doufus.

  3. Carin says:

    Ha. Maggie used the same word.

  4. great minds, Carin. ;D

  5. Carin says:

    Either that, or because he defines the term so well.

  6. Squid says:

    No representation without taxation!

  7. JHoward says:

    “we’re paid to worry about it.” Straight-faced.

    I want to curse.

  8. motionview says:

    More press conferences! The mask is slipping.

  9. gahrie says:

    I have long advocated that:

    1) Every adult 18 and older be required to pay 5% of their income in taxes, no matter how little income they had. The money collected would be trivial, but it would give everyone a stake in the game, instead of the current system when 50% pay no taxes at all (shared sacrifice?) and approaching 50% actually get a transfer payment (called a “refund”).

    2) Anyone receiving more money or goods and services from the government than they pay in taxes should have their right to vote temporarily suspended.

    3) Tax day is moved from April 15 to the day before the federal election, or the first Tuesday of November in non-election years.

    4) Withholding is ended, and everyone has to submit a check or an electronic funds transfer on tax day.

    (OK..I know the last two are probably unworkable..but a man can dream…)

  10. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The negative ads just write themselves with this guy.

  11. JHoward says:

    And had this been a Republican instead of the resident Marxist?

    Forget about it.

  12. Carin says:

    Shorter Obama: Shut up and pay. Ordinary Americans don’t pay attention to unemployment numbers. Ordinary Americans don’t understand the debit limit. And Obama makes hundreds of thousands of dollars he doesn’t need.

    How did this man every get elected?

  13. JHoward says:

    You would be mistaken, gahrie. Only a national sales tax is both fair and self-adjusting.

    Personal income tax is crowd control.

  14. Carin says:

    It doesn’t make sense, to me, that businesses are taxed AND sales are taxed AND work is taxed.

    But then I’m a simple person.

    I’m sure if I was a union gal all this would be a lot simpler. But as a business owner (our stores are in my name) … it makes my head hurt.

  15. Ernst Schreiber says:

    3) Tax day is moved from April 15 to the day before the federal election, or the first Tuesday of November in non-election years.

    4) Withholding is ended, and everyone has to submit a check or an electronic funds transfer on tax day.

    October 15 is close enough to the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Gives us all two weeks to decide if we’re getting on money’s worth out of the current batch of incumbents.

  16. Carin says:

    Does the government have to pay taxes on it’s “income??” I mean, if they get X to run their bullshit department, do they have to hand over 25 or 30% to the taxman?

  17. Ernst Schreiber says:

    How did this man every get elected?

    A combination of mass-hysteria and white guilt?

  18. cranky-d says:

    OT: I just read an article about our government shutdown here in MN and its almost funny that most of the inconveniences due to the shutdown are directly related to the government intruding into our lives. I’m thinking vehicle registration, fishing licenses, stuff like that. I don’t mind those things in principle (if the money collected were used directly for what it should be, like roads, conservation activities, etc), but it’s still amusing.

    They should really be afraid of a shutdown lasting too long because people will start realizing that they don’t need that behemoth bearing down on them as much as those in government would like to believe.

  19. sdferr says:

    At a guess, I’d say that nearing 69% of Americans know, either with conviction or with some modicum of surety, that this Obama fellow doesn’t know how to do anything but lie with his every breath. He has taught them well with repeated examples a lesson they won’t soon forget.

  20. geoffb says:

    If we don’t raise the debt ceiling and we see a crisis of confidence in the markets, and suddenly interest rates are going up significantly, and everybody is paying higher interest rates on their car loans, on their mortgages, on their credit cards, and that’s sucking up a whole bunch of additional money out of the pockets of the American people, I promise you they won’t like that.

    Now, I will say that some of the professional politicians know better. And for them to say that we shouldn’t be raising the debt ceiling is irresponsible. They know better.

    And this is not something that I am making up. This is not something that Tim Geithner is making up. We’re not out here trying to use this as a means of doing all these really tough political things.

    …[T]he technical default occurs after a failure to pay interests on our debt, not all of our bills. However, I am not sure why Treasury should consider this option (though it wouldn’t be unprecedented). We know now that Treasury has the ability to prioritize its payments and pay that particular $30 billion out of $172 billion in tax revenue. The Bipartisan Policy Center calculated that after paying its $30 billion in interest payments in August, it could also pay for Social Security, Medicare, unemployment benefits, and payments to defense contractors, if it ceased all other functions (page 13 of this document). So technically, there shouldn’t be a default on our debt payments.

    Harvard vs Sorbonne. Radical leftist lawyer/politician vs real economist.

    Let’s get real.”

  21. geoffb says:

    this Obama fellow doesn’t know how to do anything but lie with his every breath

    Even about Mama.

  22. Spiny Norman says:

    Personal income tax is crowd control.

    Bingo!

  23. sdferr says:

    Parse this for lies, for instance:

    THE PRESIDENT: I do not see a path to a deal if they don’t budge, period. I mean, if the basic proposition is “it’s my way or the highway,” then we’re probably not going to get something done because we’ve got divided government. We’ve got Democrats controlling the Senate; we probably are going to need Democratic votes in the House for any package that could possibly pass. And so if, in fact, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner are sincere — and I believe they are — that they don’t want to see the U.S. government default, then they’re going to have to compromise just like Democrats are going to have to compromise; just like I have shown myself willing to compromise.

    Well, what if the “basic proposition” is instead “what would be best to do for American governance, public order and economic well-being?” Why would anyone believe the “basic” proposition is “my way or the highway”? Unless perhaps this man himself believes such a proposition and only such a proposition — therefore can offer only that proposition for lack of any other. Seems a plausible enough reading to me.

  24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    “And this is not something that I am making up. This is not something that Tim Geithner is making up. We’re not out here trying to use this as a means of doing all these really tough political things.

    I think I see a tell.

  25. dicentra says:

    All your political maneuverings are too little, too late.

    Glenn Beck addressed the Knesset yesterday, by invitation.

    Thus opens the seventh seal, and the world collapses into a black hole tomorrow.

  26. Squid says:

    I keep waiting for the bodies to pile up outside the Capitol, cranky. I was led to believe that the shutdown would cause the sky to fall, and puppies would be left out in the rain. Puppies!

    So far, I’ve seen the crowds of homeless dudes sitting around in the shade outside the Dorothy Day center (like they always do), and crowds of state workers sitting around complaining about their bosses (like they always do). No corpses piling up, as people starve or die of starvation or dysentery or whatever was supposed to happen.

    It’s enough to make one think the Strib might have been exaggerating…

  27. SGT Ted says:

    I seem to recall lots of “my way or the highway” from him and his fellow Democrats when his Party controlled Congress.

  28. SGT Ted says:

    Squid: given the size of the giant asses most government civilian desk jockeys sport, it will take months before any of them expire.

  29. A fine scotch says:

    Sgt Ted,

    Funny how, “I won” was explanation enough in 2009 but not so much when it’s being chucked back in his face…

  30. mojo says:

    This guy is starting to seriously annoy me.

    “Eat your peas”? “Pull the band-aid off”?

    Infantalize much, pal? Or are you trying to come off as a dick?

  31. geoffb says:

    August 2009

    Todd: Let me jump to another topic, Scott Ferguson, he’s upset about taxes, he says: “Explain how raising taxes on anyone during a deep recession is going to help with the economy.” And he actually wants to you look at historical markers where this has been — you say, you know, where this has been a helpful thing coming out of a recession.

    Obama: Well, first of all, he is right. Normally, you don’t raise taxes in a recession, which is why we haven’t and why we have instead cut taxes. So I guess what I would say to Scott is his economics are right, you don’t raise taxes in a recession. We haven’t raised taxes in a recession. We don’t have a…

    Todd: But you might for health care. You might for the highest — for some of the wealthiest.

    Obama: The — we have not proposed a tax hike for the wealthy that would take effect in the middle of a recession. Even the proposals that have come out of Congress, which, by the way, were different from the proposals I put forward, still wouldn’t kick in until after the recession was over.

  32. Squid says:

    SGT Ted: Given the amount of work most of these drones do when they’re supposedly working, it’s going to be a long time before anyone realizes they’re not doing anything. Or it would be, if they didn’t unplug all the automated systems we’ve paid for over the last decade.

    Yes, that’s right. The last thing these jokers did before they turned off the lights was to unplug their web servers. I tried to look up a town’s population trend at the State Demographer’s office last week, and was greeted by a static page that said “Tough luck, taxpayer!” I guess they must’ve stopped paying the electric bill for the server room.

  33. JD says:

    Geoffb – he lies as effortlessly as he breathes.

  34. Squid says:

    Maybe he should stop, JD.

    Lying, that is. (I’d hate for the Secret Service to think I was wishing ill of the Lightworker.)

  35. sdferr says:

    You’d be amazed how much government you’ll never miss.

  36. geoffb says:

    Limbaugh is probably right that Obama figures he will win if he gets the Republican leadership to sign on for tax increases (even if they don’t pass) and also win if there is not debt ceiling increase and we have a “default” during which he and Timmuh get to decide what gets paid and what doesn’t. In that case he will opt to fund his political buddies and stop payments wherever he can maximize blaming the pain on Republicans.

    He is the one “playing politics” with the debt ceiling to get himself re-elected. Republicans need to hammer home the point that what stops being paid after August 2nd is decided by Obama. He is the decider and it is his political calculations which decide what bills get paid.

    Witness Talking Points Memo founder Josh Marshall, who admits, under the header “Dumbfounded,” that “there are many things I do not understand about the progress of this so-called debt negotiation.” Marshall continues, “There’s enough money coming into the Treasury to service the payments on the current debt. But if you don’t borrow more money you have to shut down vast amounts of federal outlays.”

    This is all true. But then Marshall continues: “And the most logical places to start are with Social Security payments and Medicare reimbursements. Stuff like cutting Social Security checks in half starting the following week. … So why the adamant refusal to put this in front of the public? It seems quite clear to me that if what was coming in early August was an immediate 50% cut in Social Security payments and/or a similar cut in salaries to members of the military and a lot else that the tenor of this whole conversation would be quite different.”

    Calculated, optimized misery imposed for the purpose of getting re-elected.

  37. serr8d says:

    We don’t have an Obama problem. We have an ‘American’ problem: a majority of voters polled want the socialisms BHO offers and promises, at the expense of the demonized Capitalists.

    Democrats are now Socialists, Republicans are now Democrats, and those of us left bewildered and staunchly opposed to CHANGE are dangerous whack jobs.

    Whatever. I’m as comfortable as bedrock pillows will allow, really.

  38. TaiChiWawa says:

    Let me be clear, now that the recession is over, we need to cut spending in the tax code.

    (heh, heh, heh…)

  39. Jeff G. says:

    I said it weeks ago, geoffb. We need to be out there asking why social security and military pay are being cut, yet the government is still funding the EPA to harass businesses and shut down coal-powered energy plants; still funding Planned Parenthood; still funding NPR; still funding cowboy poetry festivals; still funding any number of redundant programs as reported by the GAO; still providing subsidies; still moving to put ObamaCare in place; and so on. I’m quite certain we can find a litany of things the government continues to fund that would point up the absurdity of what they decided to cut, and show clearly who is playing politics with misery, and who is really blackmailing the American people.

    It’s a slam dunk, in fact.

  40. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m quite certain we can find a litany of things the government continues to fund that would point up the absurdity of what they decided to cut, and show clearly who is playing politics with misery, and who is really blackmailing the American people.

    Telling the truth about Democrats just clouds the issue, Jeff; which is that the American people expect politicians to compromise, pragmatically, to get things done for the greater good of us all. We need to do our part in keeping up appearances.

    No wonder you can’t earn your way back into the good graces of your betters. [/sarc]

  41. dicentra says:

    We need to be out there asking why social security and military pay are being cut, yet the government is still funding [idiot things]

    Ok, that cuts it. Time to fit Jeff with a strait-jacket. That’s such crazy talk even crazy people think it’s crazy.

  42. geoffb says:

    He is looking for a new jacket so…

  43. mojo says:

    No we don’t.

  44. BuddyPC says:

    This guy and his suck-ups get pissy every time someone points out his life’s lack of accomplishment, empty resume, and that he’s done little but live off the public tit; but now he insists on underling that?

    Triangulation!

  45. mojo says:

    The Blue Bus is calling us…
    Driver, where you takin’ us?
    — The Doors, “The End”

  46. the wolf says:

    I’m quite certain we can find a litany of things the government continues to fund that would point up the absurdity of what they decided to cut, and show clearly who is playing politics with misery, and who is really blackmailing the American people.

    Obama knows that too, except it’s difficult to make an emotional appeal for higher taxes based on cancellation of the cowboy poetry festival. It’s always about starving children and dying kittens and grandma not getting her meds. I’m hopeful most people see through the BS though.

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    Have I been stepping on someone else’s handle?

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    Changed mine to make us a little more distinguishable.

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