…into non-journalistic plainspeak. Asks Stephanopoulakakis:
Finally one—one final question. I think one of the most impressive things that people find in your background is the fact that you and your husband have helped raise 23 foster children and I know you want to shield them but are they prepared and are you prepared for the loss of privacy that comes with the president campaign? And is that something you are concerned about for them?
Non-journalistic plainspeak translation:
We’re going to stick a magnifying glass up your cooter, lady — sideways — and that means we’re going to dig into every last detail of your life, the life of your foster kids, of your neutered hubby, and on and on and on.
Now, as a woman and a mother, are you ready for us to do that to you and your right-wing brood? Shouldn’t you just back off and stay at home like a real conservative woman, one who doesn’t want any trouble? For the sake of your family and all? I mean, what kind of chick — and supposedly a conservative one, too, who believes in ‘family values’! — thinks about taking on a job that requires so much time and energy, at the necessary expense of being able to pretend she’s still a caring mother?
Seriously. Can you really be such a heartless, selfish bitch?
Honest to God. How contemporary, self-styled feminists — who are nothing more than special pleaders for the identity politics of a particular idea of womanhood (and one that has very little if anything to do with the aims of first wave feminism) — are able to hold their noses and support the political party whose underlying assumptions about woman are so brazenly misogynistic, is beyond me.
But then, were these self-styled “feminists” at all honest with themselves, I suppose they would long ago have given up being contemporary, self-styled feminists.
So. Asked and answered.
(h/t Darleen)
Bachmann missed an opportunity there
whose underlying assumptions about woman are so brazenly misogynistic
What, you think they actually believed that bilgewater they were spouting? About women’s equality and rights and junk?
Geez louise, Jeff. It was never about THAT: it was about using identity politics to shove increasing amounts of statism down our throats while they became the New Aristocracy.
Over the mangled, raped, violated bodies of the entire female population, if need be.
And is that something you are concerned about for them?
Translation: “You know we caught one masturbating in public with a crack vial? And not the good, New York Times approved crack, the bad kind, from Kansas?”
I have to kind of agree with happyfeet here,
She missed an opportunity to shove this right back in Snuffelupegas’ and the entire media’s face. She should have said something along the lines of, “George, seriously, you guys have never bothered to produce the Presidents college records or writings, his notes from the Illinois leislature, or even be the least bit skeptical about with his time at the Annenberg challenge with Bill Ayers or from before as a “community organizer” for ACORN; you will barely ever speak of any of his controversial associations, people like Rashid Kahlili, but you’ll subject my foster children, some who were only with us a short time, to a feeding frenzy of media badgering in order to uncover the slightest bit of embarrassing personal information about me? No wonder the American people are tired of, and turning away from, the double standard and biases of the mainstream media…”
(That last part said while shaking her head an affecting a look of pity)
Dude, something like that would be so “checkmate”. But I never got asked to be one of her media advisors. Maybe you should write her and offer to be a media coach JeffG. You’ve got the OUTLAW! cred. :)
Unless you are a high information voter you may not know that Little Boy George
wasis a Democrat operative and not a scrupulously objective journalist, like Dan Rather or Sam Donaldson.I’ve dropped all of my technical work and I’m going full bore political for a while. Pushing electrons really seems like a waste of time when they are working ceaselessly on putting my daughter on the road to serfdom. I’ve gone back through Kurtz and I’m currently reading Breitbart. Can someone refresh me on the financial crisis book jg recommended? And any other recommendations?
I second that Bob Reed. Who is advising these candidates? Are they being advised to be “nice” to their interviewers or the press will turn against them? Do they not understand that the MBM is a wing of the United Progressive Front?
Reckless Endangerment.
The campaign is still in its embryonic stages, guys, and I think — or rather, I hope — Bachmann will learn from these interviews. She seems right now to be reacting to the questions more forcefully in retrospect than she does at the moment they’re asked. But she’ll adapt, I’d venture.
Bob is right, however: though both the left and the establishment GOP would have tut-tutted such an answer as the one Bob suggested as being “defensive” and “whiny,” it nevertheless would have resonated with the American people. Palin’s “blood libel” comment was a fake controversy — and it harmed her in no way, despite what some on our own side told you.
More, please.
I for one fail to see how an answer like I suggested could be categorized as defensive; but I’d trust the timorous Rockefeller moderate-hunters to find a way to characterize it as being such.
I’m personally disgusted with the “establicans” as they are often characterized today for floating that asinine trial balloon that they’d be willing to cut defense spending in order to cajole Democrats into not demanding so large a tax increase in the who debt ceiling kabuki.
I mean, friggin’ Gates just recently cautioned Obama and the Dems that he’d cut defense spending to the bone already, and to not look to go to that well anytime soon. But here you have the clown parade going before the media talking about being willing to work with them on such reduction; all while China is striving to realize their near-peer adverary force on the back of our deficit financing and trade imbalances. All to prove to the mushy middlers their willingness to compromise, in the name of comity and civility now.
It makes me effin’ sick…
Bob,
Your reaction is very similar to my own, both here and when she got the “Are you a flake?” question. Though I’d have been happier if her reply to Steffie’s “…are you prepared for the loss of privacy that comes with the president campaign? And is that something you are concerned about for them?” were something along the lines of:
“Not really, George. I’m more concerned for those who would do the digging into my family’s private life and threatening their privacy and their dignity. If the Chicago Machine scared them enough to ignore Obama’s background, then the likely consequences of going after my children should scare them silly.”
* * * * *
Apart from election-related activities, my sincere hope is that we’ll see a handful of candidates (and I still hope that Bachmann will be one of them) who will take on the secondary task of revealing the networks and their talking heads for the shallow, self-serving statist sympathizers they are.
Here’s a hint, Tea Partiers, in case you missed the last dozen times we reminded you: Big Media doesn’t like you. They are not going to like you, unless you sell out your principles and adopt Big Media’s preferences. And if you do that, you are not longer Tea Party material, and you will lose, McCain-style. Accept that Big Media does not like you, and will not be made to like you, and stop trying! They are the willing tools of your enemies; they are weapons pointed at your throat, and you cannot win the war until you start treating them thusly.
They are shallow, ridiculous buffoons. Worse than that, they’re continuing to misinform the American people, leading us closer and closer to our self-destruction. They do not deserve respect, nor deference, nor cordiality. They should be challenged, and smacked down, and revealed for what they really are. Participating in the charade only reinforces the charade. Cut their legs out from under them, and show their audiences just how badly they’ve been lied to all these years.
Succeed in this, and it won’t matter if you win the nomination — you’ll already have performed an important service to the country, and you can take pride in the accomplishment.
Bob Reed @10:38 am,
I have taken the liberty of copying your suggestion for Michele Bachmann, with attribution, and emailing it to her campaign. If you hear your words verbatim, please know it was for a good cause. I sent the link to this post and copied your comment directly into the email, in case no one bothers to click the link.
Perhaps everyone here could follow suit?
http://www.michelebachmann.com/contact/
Troll dolls are hilarious looking. It can’t be simple thing to concentrate when face to face with one, especially one that pretends to journalism.
Thanks MathMom, I’m flattered. I hope that it gets to her communications people; I’d have been honored to be of service in any way.
My Regards.
When Palin defended herself against suggestions she was responsible for the murder of several people and the attempted murder of Gabrielle Giffords, we were told she was “being defensive”.
“Our” side doesn’t much like those who question the makeup of the ruling class, either, Bob.
I would have answered it with I believe my children, all of them, are deserving of the same respect and circumspection given to [the Obama girls–Malia and whatsherface] and Chelsea Clinton before them. Having said that, I fully expect that they’ll recieve the same discourteous and unprofessional treatment you people seem to reserve exclusively for the children of Republicans like myself.
Easy for us to say. We’re not sitting there with a camera shoved in our face.
there remains such a thing as not dignifying certain charges with a response
15 and 16 seem about right.
Happy – don’t get me started on “Coke or Pepsi” and “thin crust or deep dish”. No response would be great, but some measured indignation would have been better. Instead, they ALL played along.
Yeah, I’m not too happy with “our” side today JeffG.
I would have preferred dead air, a stare, and “Is that a threat George?”.
Well happyfeet, he didn’t “charge” anything, per se, although Steffie’s words are freighted with suggestion.
I’d have let him have it with both barrells
oh. I was talking there more about the Palin Giffords contretemps
I get it.
This seems appropriate in this thread http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44511
“Palinizing Bachmann” is the title. It’s mostly a rant, but has some good snark.
We hate hate hate the cowardly Boehnerfags what won’t fight back but the cumslut hootchies what do might mind that they don’t come off sounding like wounded tarts is what I’m really saying.
bob Reed,
Debt ceiling? Never heard of it!
You might find it on —.gov under: “Eat me. I’M set for life now, and you are paying for my endless vacation, you stupid, stupid proles! AND I AM NOT DONE WITH YOU YET! YOU THINK THE LAST POOP STAB HURT? HAH! THAT WAS JUST PRACTICE!”
the charge that Palin was responsible for poor pithed Gabby was too stupid to countenance – and it was less a charge than it was a provocation designed for to bait Palin into … doing pretty much exactly what she did I think
#24: Snap!
MathMom –
I did exactly that.
Thank you.
There comes a time when being sold directly down the familiar historical road into totalitarian serfdom turns to vigorous reaction against the fucking fourth estate doing it, too. Since when is it acceptable for a freak like Stephanopoulos to publicly threaten a woman sworn to preventing such a thing occurring because it’s become clear she’s done just that?
Priorities. Which, as it turns out, don’t so much as include letting these suckerfish ride until they kill us.
The correct response: “Well Mr. Stephanopouluphagus, you must be so proud of your profession.”
Mr. Howard see #22
Palin’s damned if she does and damned is she doesn’t. Because someone is always going to be ready to damn her.
Ain’t that so, happyfeet?
Conservatives need to challenge these media muffin mavens more.
I think you might be thinking of Lady Gaga
Have you ever seen Little Georgie Snuffelupegas and Lady Gaga together at the same time?
“What, you think they actually believed that bilgewater they were spouting? About women’s equality and rights and junk?”
Sure. Quite a few of us believed it.
And it wasn’t bilgewater when we were talking about the basics, what Jeff has referred to as first-wave feminism (if I read you correctly, Jeff).
Nor is it bilgewater when people like Sarah Palin live those values.
It became bilgewater when left-wing academics and know-nothing-know-it-alls in the chattering classes turned it into nothing more than identity politics.
Jeff, you will appreciate Surber’s headline on this story:
ABC anchor threatens Bachmann’s kids
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/36778
National Soros Radio weighs in on Bachmann’s candidacy today:
Shove a razorwire encrusted baseball bat up your cunt sidewise, you pig-ignorant piece of pikachu shit.
oh. Even MORE today from National Soros Radio…
Michele Bachmann Misstatement Streak Continues
sample:
Designed? No, that was all reflex.
So Ed Rollins has NPR on his payroll or do they just channel each other?
All to prove to the mushy middlers their willingness to compromise, in the name of comity and civility now.
Is that their actual motive or is it just the façade they use to explain why they did what they wanted to do anyway (or were paid off to do)?
there remains such a thing as not dignifying certain charges with a response
That’s what Palin did when that viper Couric asked her about her reading habits and look what they did with that.
I am still completely fucking traumatized by watching Wolf Blitzer crawl up Bristol Palin’s 17-year-old uterus in 2008 on the nightly news.
Ever since then I am scared for any conservative woman trying to enter politics. They are braver than me — me and my kids couldn’t withstand that kind of colonoscopy.
I would vote for her, but I don’t see how she can make it throught the primaries alive.
…I don’t see how she can make it throught the primaries alive.
Anticipate. Prepare. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
Headshots and groinshots.
“Levin: Stephanopoulos Is Foolish in Lecturing Bachmann”
MissFixit via Rule 4 you should be suing CNN for traumatizing you.
I’m all for going “outlaw,” and I yield to no one in general weariness of HappyFeet’s linguistic act, but old Bobby Crawford’s responses to posts lately are more Travis Bickel than the traffic usually bears around here.
Crawford – re: your instruction to Him What Don’t Like The Pretty Ladies Because They Make His PeePee Feel All Funny, I loosely quote Sam Kinison’s charcater in Back to School, “Good answer . . . good answer. I’m going to be keeping my eye on you.”
whatsa matta wit da way I tawk?
On first read, my parser had that as “Reckless Engenderment”. Maybe that’ll be funny in some future context.
I thought it was kinda poetic, Roddy. It was certainly a refreshing change from the usual “swordfish” suggestions.
Well here’s some folks who are not practicing Reckless Engenderment, or any other kind for that matter.
motionview
::::sigh::::
Roddy has delicate sensibilities. You guys better clean it up!
“charlesaustin posted on6/28 @ 11:51 am
The correct response: “Well Mr. Stephanopouluphagus, you must be so proud of your profession.”
No, I think he is proud of his tiny little penis!
Oh, my Gawd, go to bed, TLD!
Luke’s Song.
Wanna hear it?
Didn’t think so…
TLD in a pissed off mood (for a change).,…
Nah LB, tighten up old boy.
Hard language doesn’t put me off my feed. Lots of people around here tell each other to shove rusty wire up each other’s cunts… it’s how Outlaw!’s say hello.
I’m just saying RC’s posts sound like they’ve been written by someone who really hasn’t managed to win at all that much in this world….and knows it. Like Travis Bickle.
Have a good one.
Sorry Darleen, that should have been my link.
I mean, I should have linked to that.
Yo! Darleen! Zowie! Good translation. One thing you missed: the Stephster worked for and defended a guy whose New Employee Orientation Program consisted of whipping it out and saying Here – suck this.
A real respecter of women.