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Don’t accept the premise

Rumsfeld, who takes craps bigger than Andrea Mitchell.

Of course, I’ve long counseled that the way to push back against the dishonest debate tactics of the left is to refuse to accept their framing premises — and to call them out on their attempts to finesse the conversation or decontextualize / recontextualize a sound bite to rob it of its originary meaning. But when Rummy does it, it smells like single malt scotch. And freedom.

30 Replies to “Don’t accept the premise”

  1. Joe says:

    I disagreed with things Rummy did, but damn if his return is not a rolled down window of cool fresh air in a car full of farts.

  2. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – The reality based community finally gets to actually experience some reality…

  3. Old Texas Turkey says:

    Mitchell is a talking points spewing automaton. Hilarious was, she would talk over to finish her question as Rummy was demolishing her premise.

    Kinda like those cartoon characters trying to outrun a disintegrating bridge. It never ends well.

    This cat ran back into the Pentagon on 9/11 to stretcher people out of the carnage and had to be physically restrained by his body guards and helicoptered out. Andrea, like many of her shit stained journo colleagues has no game in this tussle.

  4. cranky-d says:

    I just got through the first video. I had no idea how adept Rumsfeld is at handling MBM “facts.”

    His stock is going up.

  5. cranky-d says:

    I could never hold my temper that long. I would make a poor spokesman.

  6. JHoward says:

    That’s a beautiful thing, not least of which is that it exposes Mitchell’s shallowness and lack of integrity, and with it, the dinosaur media’s. It’s remarkable that they kept the ruse of serious journalism up as long as they did. They’re all facelifts and glass-topped Global Nerve Centers.

    A lie is always a lie. These people are yellow.

  7. Abe Froman says:

    This is THE most important skill for anyone dealing with the left. And since the babbling cupcake queen is no longer here, I’ll stick my neck out and say that this is part of what sends a chill up my spine when people take Sarah Palin seriously as a presidential contender.

  8. B. Moe says:

    Been reading Rumsfelds book. Good stuff.

  9. narciso says:

    Please when pressed, the ‘clean toga’ crowd, throw more people, off the plank, then Jack Sparrow.

  10. LBascom says:

    “I’ll stick my neck out and say that this is part of what sends a chill up my spine when people take Sarah Palin seriously as a presidential contender.”

    Palin/Cain 2012

  11. Bob Reed says:

    Rummy makes mincemeat of Angrea.

  12. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I take it then Abe, that, based upon previous performances with Couric and Gibson, you don’t think Sarah Palin could handle Andrea Mitchell?

  13. Pablo says:

    I take it then Abe, that, based upon previous performances with Couric and Gibson, you don’t think Sarah Palin could handle Andrea Mitchell?

    She has demonstrated scant little of that ability.

  14. Pablo says:

    Palin can certainly be sharp, but she’s not terribly quick on her feet in an adversarial situation.

  15. Jeff G. says:

    She has demonstrated scant little of that ability.

    She’s been improving.

    And in fact, learning to go around the mainstream press — and to get them to cover what she says and thinks, anyway, while simultaneously exposing their clear bias and hatred — has shown that she’s getting pretty media savvy.

  16. Carin says:

    I wasn’t impressed with her appearance on Chris Wallace’s show a few months ago.

    And, I’m a fan.

  17. narciso says:

    What in particular, Carin, I’m curious.

  18. mojo says:

    I’m not looking for media savvy, Jeff. I’m looking for effective and doesn’t scare well

  19. Pablo says:

    And in fact, learning to go around the mainstream press — and to get them to cover what she says and thinks, anyway, while simultaneously exposing their clear bias and hatred — has shown that she’s getting pretty media savvy.

    Media savvy, yes. Good at going toe to toe a la Rumsfeld? That I have not seen. I hope she’s working on it.

  20. Squid says:

    And in fact, learning to go around the mainstream press…

    An important distinction. I think Palin and her advisers understand that toe-to-toe dueling isn’t her strong suit, and so they’ve devised ways to spread her message and keep her in the media while avoiding any more ambush interviews.

    It’s a masterful tactic, and I admire the cleverness and the skill shown in making it work so well. But it doesn’t alter my impression that Team Palin is working around what they consider a weaker skill.

    She’s a pugilist, living in a world that expects fencers.

  21. Abe Froman says:

    Hopefully it’s something she’s working on under the cover of darkness. I’m not hung up on the Gibson and Couric interviews, because, frankly, it has to be somewhat horrifying to enter the national political stage and be charged with presenting yourself forcefully while also being hamstrung by your role as a surrogate for a pandering geriatric gimp. I just don’t have enough from Facebook posts and (very)friendly interviews to inspire much confidence in her ability to take the next step.

  22. Jeff G. says:

    I’m looking for effective and doesn’t scare well…

    I think she’s proven she can take a punch and doesn’t frighten easily.

  23. alppuccino says:

    You know who’s media savvy? Hair Reed. The Senate Majority Leader. Very media savvy. Never says anything that sounds stupid or nonsensical.

    There is no media savvy on the Republican side. There’s no reason to be media savvy unless you’re trying to impress idiots. “Ooh! Notice how Obama pauses and gives the soothing umms and ahhs! It shows he’s a thinker. So nice to have someone who thinks before he talks in the office after George W. Dolt.”

    Media savvy is another word for smartest retard on the hockey helmet circuit.

  24. alppuccino says:

    I admit I’ve taken liberties with the definition of media savvy.

  25. alppuccino says:

    It’s close to my nap time.

  26. Blake says:

    Sarah Palin is one of the few in the GOP that gets “it.”

    Palin has learned the MBM will only like a GOP “moderate” until a true leftist Democrat comes along. Palin has also learned that someone who is a staunch conservative advocate will be mercilessly hounded by the MBM.

    Having learned the above mentioned lessons, Palin understands that MBM will never be her friend and cannot be trusted.

    The rest of the GOP falls continuously into the trap of worrying what the MBM will say about them. The beltway GOP, AKA “The Stupid Party” is taught the lesson about MBM animosity daily, yet doesn’t learn anything from the experience.

  27. Blake says:

    Another great interview here: http://tinyurl.com/48auu8a

    Liz Cheney destroys Norah O’Donnell. Liz has O’Donnell so upset, O’Donnell loses composure and shows that O’Donnell is a partisan hack masquerading as an objective reporter. First time I’ve ever seen a woman become almost hysterical while conducting an interview.

  28. mojo says:

    Take a punch? Not really. A girly-slap, maybe.

    That’s why Colonel Colt invented his equalizer, anyway.

    Oh, and I HAVE THE ANSWER!:
    http://www.boingboing.net/2011/02/23/attack-of-the-pink-a.html

  29. Patrick S says:

    Fucking brilliant. I’d love to see him sit down with either POTUS or VPOTUS for a little debate. He’s forgotten more than their combined knowledge of the world.

  30. dicentra says:

    Where’s Liz been lately? We could use her muscle somethin’ fierce!

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