Laura Ingraham vs. Gloria Feldt.
When feminist orthodoxy begins supporting gay men who savage women for having the wrong political opinion, it has, as Ingraham implies, become nothing more than another advocacy arm of a particular political ideology.
To be an authentic woman — or at least, a women who isn’t suffering from false consciousness — one must support the political aims of those women who have established and who now control the feminist orthodoxy. Or, to put it more forcefully, to be an authentic woman, one must give themselves over to a narrative with which they might not agree or else face the kinds of attacks Carrie Prejean is facing. Individualism is subsumed by group identity, and those individuals who refuse to adopt certain core political truisms (as defined by the orthodoxy) are to be treated as pariahs and traitors.
We’ve seen similar machinations at work within the black, hispanic, and gay communities, to name only a few — with the common thread throughout being that each of these identity groups has adopted the identity politics model favored by the left and animated by the political ideology of totalitarianism.
What Ingraham manages to do here — from a refusal to let lies pass unchecked to a refusal to let her debate opponent filibuster and put her on the defensive — is perfect: her opponent, disarmed of her arsenal of cheap progressive debate tricks, is left trying to defend arguments that have been laid thoroughly bare; and when you are trying to make the case for “tolerance,” as was Ms Feldt, you come off looking transparently disingenuous when your attempts to malign anyone who doesn’t accept your point of view is all that remains once the rhetorical flourishes have been countered.
Ingraham managed to show that “tolerance,” to progressives like Ms Feldt, is antithetical to the kind of tolerance one traditionally associates with free speech.
She won the argument on the merits by not allowing Ms Feldt to frame the debate nor to put her on the defensive. And yes, Ingraham’s exasperation, in this instance, worked quite well, highlighting, as it did, the stunning movement away from principles to political allegiance that Ms Feldt, as part of the establishment feminist orthodoxy, represents.
(h/t Phil)
Feminism isn’t about women. Its about tearing down civilized society.
BTW: Ever notice how leftists always sport a big, stupid fucking smile whenever they appear on any confrontational/debate type political television show? The more vile their message, the bigger the grin.
Fucking snakes. I want’m offa my muthafuckin’ plane.
Ms Feldt left me with the impression that breast implants are inherently unjust and anti-egalitarian. Somehow.
Feminist hate women.
I’ve been trying to figure out what combination of licit and/or illicit pharmaceuticals Feldt has going on there.
I’m positive it’s more than one.
Greetings:
Now, girls; a little sisterhood, please. Remember you’re both victims of the same oppression.
“Feminism is about justice and equality.”
She needs a Webster’s.
“She needs a Webster’s.”
She needs a cockslapping.
Could someone please link the Ingraham/Feldt thingy? For some reason, what Jeff embeds won’t work on my browser.
O.k., so she STARTS with, “I have been the butt of that same kind of attack.” O.k., that could be promising. But no! “. . . [that same kind of attack] from the right so many times . . . and I think even perhaps from the likes of you.”
From the right?! From the likes of you?! Can we polarize a little more, please?
Them’s fightin’ words!
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Comment by Taste the chain on 5/2
oh my, what little Leftcult troll is this one? A new drooler or just a sockpuppet.
Gloria didn’t come for a debate, she just plowed through her talking points like Obama with a functioning teleprompter.
“If she had had a heart transplant instead of breast implants paid for by the Pageant”
I bet Gloria giggled and stroked herself while she practiced that bit in front of a mirror.
#8 N. O’Brain.
“She needs a Webster’s.â€
“She needs a cockslapping.”
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O.k., so she STARTS with, “I have been the butt of that same kind of attack.†O.k., that could be promising. But no! “. . . [that same kind of attack] from the right so many times . . . and I think even perhaps from the likes of you.â€
From the right?! From the likes of you?!”
But notice that Laura calls her out for the liar she is.
well, see, apparently Laura thinks that because she’s perceived as an idiot. or something.
“All it did was help cement the perception of Laura Ingraham as an idiot.”
If you thinks she’s an idiot, that proves you’re an idiot.
To you, perhaps. Though I doubt it. Of course, this is what you need people to pretend to believe, so keep pushing it.
Unlike you, I don’t equate individualism with divisiveness, so I don’t buy your characterization.
Perez is a stupid cunt.
Thanks Darleen!! I don’t often delurk, but I know I can count on y’all…and as long as I’m delurked?
Fuck off Thor
It’s rather telling that feminists choose Perez Hilton over actual women. I guess non-feminist female types just aren’t authentic.
I have no idea what Ms Prejean’s beliefs are w/regard to feminism. Is she in fact a non-feminist or does she profess to be a non-feminist?
The Emperor’s New Clothes, over and over and over again. Only without the Enlightenment ending.
Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. Establish truth by repeating the lie and making the consequences of correcting the lie dire and personal. Control the narrative and its dissemination. Escalate as necessary.
We have to marginalize the media. We simply must.
Sdferr
The minute Prejean admitted she was a Christian and questioned the wisdom of same-sex marriage, she was no longer a Vagina Warrior or an authentic woman.
why are gay men judging a female beauty pageant? isn’t that queer?
I would say that any female is a “non-feminist” if she doesn’t conform to the ideology of the likes of Pandagon, Feministing, etc.
Given that feminist orthodoxy eschews beauty pageants, I would say it would hard for Carrie to have any feminist street cred.
We have to marginalize the media. We simply must.
Then we all have to be prepared to challenge the media whenever the opportunity arises. Always challenge their questions, never be on the defensive, never be distracted or diverted and always be ready to state calmly and firmly “That is a lie. You are a liar.”
#16 N. O’Brain
“But notice that Laura calls her out for the liar she is.”
Oh, absolutely. I’m just stunned that the invited guest we-presume-has-prepared-for-the-interview “feminist” started out citing credentials that promised empathy (“I have been the butt of that same kind of attack”) before immediately breaking into a raging attack-the-b**** diatribe. I’m stunned that she did not see the inconsistency.
Straight men can’t be trusted to judge according to the approved standard of beauty.
We need more journalists and hosts like Laura who STOP THE BUS when a leftist starts their whole rant with a complete lie. Laura wouldn’t stand for it and that’s the way it should be.
The idea that a feminist would make a joke about a womans breast implants would seem laughable on its face, until, well, this feminist decided to make a joke about her breast implants.
Full circle indeed.
That sounds to me like an interpretive act on your part Darleen, of an opponent observer of Ms Prejean, which for all I know, you may be right, that, that is the way in which some of those opponents of Ms Prejean may look upon her. However, it gets me no closer to an understanding of Ms Prejean’s beliefs, I’m afraid.
And that goes to you too Carin. What those others may believe can be interesting to be sure, but can we give Ms Prejean any credit for thoughts of her own here?
I’m stunned you think she would have cared if she had seen it.
Liz Cheney does the same thing, only as the interviewee who doesn’t allow the interviewer to frame the debate.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Interestingly, she uses the filibuster against the alleged reporter.
We have to marginalize the media. We simply must.
We have to overwhelm them. Go around them. Stun them into silence and irrelevance. Shock and awe.
Leftists are practising a form of religion and Carrie Prejean by her statement made it clear she is not one of the faithful. They will marginalize anyone from the designated victim classes who don’t assume the mantle of martyrdom. They see no conflict with their actions because their dogma requires a victim to hold certain viewpoints. If they do not make this ‘confession of faith’ they are heretics, and savaged with full justification.
I’m stunned that she did not see the inconsistency.
The inconsistency is a feature, not a bug. It allows you to appear to be virtuous while being totally not.
I actually have no idea. And whether she is, or isn’t a feminist, really is beside the point.
The POINT is that feminsts are largely anti-women. They only support a fragment of women, and gay men, who think exactly as they do. All the while wearing the mantle that they are “pro-women.” It is just to laugh that they take Perez’s side. A gay man, more authentically feminist.
Who would I trust more to look out for the interests of me, as a woman? What possible interest does a gay man have in women? We are, basically, irrelevant. I’m ranting.
The only thing missing from this is someone yammering about “false consciousness.”
Mario Lavandeira?
part of the lavendar mafia?
Prejean isn’t a feminist. You have to be a leftist to be a feminist because, in the end, feminism isn’t about women.
I think I understood that [POINT] Carin, without any difficulty at all. But I make the mistake of supposing it isn’t enough to assume that Ms Prejean fits the derogations of her, I guess?
Ms Feldt might have been asked how she would receive the conversation of K. Olbermann and M Musto had the two been, hypothetically, co-workers of Ms Prejean, and additionally, in the workplace while they had their conversation verbatim.
I am a feminist. But I’m not (as Dan pointed out, and as many of the long-time readers of this site knew already) recognized as such by the establishment feminists. In fact, they’ve called me (and Cathy Young, among others) “anti-feminists”. Because we believe in equality before the law and the protection of individual freedoms, regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation, etc.
Today, these beliefs mark one as a racist, anti-feminist, and homophobe.
Because we live in Orwell’s America.
OK.
Start with something simple sounding which, in practice, is anything but. For the true Left, all relationships are about the power differences between the entities involved. Power is the relationship. Every relationship.
All these “things” we throw into the various arguments with the Left, the Constitution, the Law, contracts, tradition, ethics, morality, family, love, friendship, religion, they are seen masks we throw over the “true” relationship. A veneer we have applied to keep all, even ourselves, from “the truth”, their truth. We are thus always lying, to ourselves, to each other, and, most importantly, to them. This is what is known as “false consciousness”. What we see as real, is what they view as ghosts, phantoms, evil spirits. In their world we, that is most of humanity, are insane.
Obama is, in their world, the one saying the truth openly, clearly. He speaks the language of power, his power, “I won”. He makes his relationships about power. This is seen as a courageous act in a world filled with our form of insanity. He speaks their truth, not to, but about power.
#34 McGehee
“I’m stunned that she did not see the inconsistency.”
“I’m stunned you think she would have cared if she had seen it.”
Wasn’t it Laura’s point that the guest’s inconsistency was stunning? That a self-styled feminist backed the trashing of a woman who answered a question honestly?
Me, I’m hoping that Laura gave her pause for thought. But I can be naive.
#37 dicentra
“The inconsistency is a feature, not a bug. It allows you to appear to be virtuous while being totally not.”
In NewSpeak.
Carin @ 38: A gay man, more authentically feminist.
I consider myself a moderate feminist, and understand the affiliation with the gay movement to be about solidarity between groups struggling for legitimacy. However, the attacks against Prejean over her opinion about gay marriage and her boob jobs are pure crass. Sets the cause back, in fact.
As attributed by proggs, was a long-dead president’s great alleged misdeed siring children by a black mother or siring children by a slave? Depending on the answer, Obama’s claims to ascendancy and virtue by being black may be contradicted. Unless in progg valuations, both are rendered consistent.
So goes “feminism”. If it’s conservative, kill it and declare it bigoted. If it’s progressive and bigoted, declare it wholesome.
#44 geoffb
If that’s true–and it’s scary–then what’s the proper response?
Sets the cause back, in fact.
If the cause is women’s equality, then you’re barking up the wrong tree. Mostly because we’re already legally equal and we don’t have any artificial barriers to our dreams or aspirations.
“The Cause” that Feldt is behind is now Leftism, and those kinds of attacks are de rigeur. For every person that is put off by the nastiness, there are ten more who are eager to avoid being the target thereof.
Nastiness works when enough popular/famous people get behind it. We’re at that point.
If that’s true–and it’s scary–then what’s the proper response?
Just what you see Laura do here: DON’T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. Call it out. Stop the bus, as Tman said. Resist, resist, resist. And be willing to take the backlash from it, because they won’t go down easy. Watch Bill Whittle’s presentation on the choice to drop the bomb. Imagine that the Japanese are the feminists and we’re the Allied forces. After we dropped the first bomb on Japan, they doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down. The Left will do the same as we ramp up the resistance.
This is war; no squirt guns allowed.
Don’t let them argue from the premises of their reality. When they get pressed to defend their own quite different view of what constitutes reality they either, can’t and go into the ad hominum attacks, or make the attempt and come off as insane to those not of their persuasion.
Or you can snark too. I like it personally.
geoffb @44
Take it the next step. The left will then hide behind the law, and twist in their halls of power to punish the individual or change the status to fit their own wants.
See ACLU, Congress, et. al.
because giving gov’t money is cool like giving money to the homeless
for the 1% that would prefer not to pay 3% more.
This kills me. You lefties believe that the Tea Parties were all about protecting tax cut for the rich, as shown here. The fact that it goes WAAAAAAAY deeper than that totally eludes you.
This is an epic clash of visions, chin-man: the constrained vision versus the unconstrained vision. They’re mutually exclusive, and the country is not big enough for both of us.
But go ahead and misrepresent, misunderstand, and “misunderestimate” to your heart’s content. We’ll go on without you.
Feminism makes you insist that a disturbed fellow who insists that he is a woman, is, in fact, a woman:
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/04/20/trans-panic-defense-underway-in-trial-for-angie-zapatas-murder/
My post got disappeared, and I later was banned, for stating that “[l]ike it or not, most people don’t consider someone with a penis a woman . . . ”
Check out Jill @ 20, wherein she figures that the problem is that the Defendant should have been prepared to accept that his new girlfriend was sporting a penis. “[T]here’s a pretty popular social narrative that ‘finding out’ someone’s genitals don’t look how you expected them to look justifies an anger . . .” Once they force ghey marriage down your throat, bullying you into calling what is biologically a man a “woman” as a pure act of raw political power won’t be far behind. Parts of the same whole.
1% that would prefer not to pay 3% more.
That is a lie. You are a liar.
You should see the other prevailing theory. It’s even less charitable.
Imagine my shock.
I thought it was bad to refer to a political opponent and woman as “Fair Game”. Ask Karl Rove.
You should see the other prevailing theory.
It is a lie, just as you are a liar.
“She knows . . . now that she can’t look to feminists to support her as a woman speaking her mind in public. She’s not allowed to have those thoughts. I appreciate it.”
Laura’s good.
Taste the chain, why don’t you tell us what we think the Tea Parties were about? From our point of view, that is. See if you can articulate our PoV in such a way that we would recognize it as our own.
Betcha can’t.
Topsecret
It is really Prejean’s fault. She forgot to read the fine print of the pageant that non-leftists need not apply.
because giving gov’t money is cool like giving money to the homeless
‘Cept the homeless buy MD20/20 or Night Train with it, not wagyu beef.
I suppose if I ran the balance up on Taste the Chain’s Discover Card, he couldn’t complain until next month, when he got the statement, right?
Once again an argument that proceeds from the assumption that power is all. That the granting or withholding of “favors” by the powerful, by Government is what the world is about. Power and money, money which is both to buy power and a perk of those who have already.
Has anyone asked The Donald whether it was wise to have as one of his judges a guy who spends his day writing shitty gossip about people, including cartoon spurting penises over the photos of whose whom he disapproves? Would he tolerate such a misstep on The Apprentice?
went out w a feminist once/ til she found out i listened to limbaugh…
she slammed the phone down on me/ refused my calls..eh
so i waited a week and had my 6 year old niece call her
number and leave a message..
“dear blah blah- i am an afghan girl in desperate need of
shin-guards for my girls soccer team”
stop sucking that lemon
like revs wright, jesse and al: down for the “struggle”
So I wandered over to Gloria Feldt’s website and while looking at this post about Bristol Palin (by Gloria) was directed to this Nov. 1, 2008 post (by guest blogger Robin Morgan) about Sarah Palin and the “faux ‘feminists’ backing the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket.” The comments section is, for a time at least (until Gloria and friends could get back in control of the messaging), quite a howling brawl between older women who fancy themselves to be feminists and the self-styled authentic feminists linking arms with Gloria, Robin and passer-by Katha Pollit. There’s more than a little “lookism” going on back and forth from both sides in the tussle.
I’m just saying and I don’t care, but Gloria has definitely had some eye work done. Her eyebrows look like dang horse shoes.
Hah. THIS is a hoot.
Watch out, Topsecretk9. Taste the chain will any minute now make some oblique reference to some rightwinger somewhere who has engaged in some sort of hypocrisy.
And THAT’LL SHOW YOU!
snake oil sales person
I dunno, Jeff. Every time a troll shows up here and posts something devastatingly clever, I feel myself wavering.
Especially the ironic pseudonyms. A few more of those and I’ll be bathing in the Kool-Aid.
Feminism, of the sort obeyed by Ms. Feldt, is a Leninist front.
Real feminism embraces the natural roles that women play in society as it explains positively the differences between men and women. To the naturalistic female the idea that men are dispensable is abject nonsense: no thinking woman would utter that she needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. But unfortunately, just like Miss California, these true feminists, the Naturalist ones, have been excommunicated from the discipline by their ideological bullies, the Marxist/Leninist feminists.
The factions that won rely on foundations that lay outside of science, reason and nature. The rest, as they say, is history.
mario lavender guess what?
Without the barest hint of braggadocio or conceit, and with what I would describe as deep humility, he said quietly: ‘I have a gift, Harry.'”
“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism.” – Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10
“A world where men and women would be equal is easy to visualize, for that precisely is what the Soviet Revolution promised.” – Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex (New York, Random House, 1952),
Feldt believes women’s ideas should be weighed and measured by their appearance, and ridiculed for cosmetic enhancements or lack of them, if they say something controversial. That’s the opposite of feminism. She stole the word.
My take? An epic, protracted hissy fit.
One wonders what the psychological damage will be after four years, let alone three months.
Yup.
TtC, you even copied and pasted, and still responded inappropriately. Which was to be expected, I guess.
Yeah, front end of the daisy chain; like anyone here really cares what you and your bois think about the motives of tea parties. Are you the teabagging recipient or the one in the barrel? Just wondering.
thanks to Sdferr I just waded my way through a yawning article about woman won’t have human rights until they can have free abortions on demand filled with the usual boiler-plate Vagina Warrior tripe that couldn’t stand the first bit of logic.
lots of misogyny on the proggs side of the fence
TtC seems to have reading comp problems.
Oh, such a surprise.
the problem with women is that they create humans. i like it; some notsomuch.
HereSee, I thought the Tea Parties were about “The Highest Form of Patriotism TM.”
Danger: vast excluded middle.
waste of chain reminds me of lamb cannon.
How are things working out there in Tucscon, Fudge-O?
(Tucson, I mean).
TtC are you channeling PeeWee Herman now?
I’ve developed very thick skin
Lifts’ll do that, Gloria.
Lifts’ll do that, Gloria.
And just so’s ya know…that ain’t her belly button.
See, if it ain’t about money or power, it’s just noise in the system. Ghosts.
There should never ever be a thread on this subject matter which fails to note – early and often – that Teleprompter Jesus’s position on gay marriage is the same as Prejean’s. Stll awaiting the left’s attacks on his big dopey ears, his sasquatchian wife and the arguments that he has coasted on affirmative action and race-based coddling his whole life and that turning his back on teh gays is a betrayal!!!
But we know how this works. Few said it better than journalist/twatwaffle Nina Burleigh when in commenting about Lewinsky she noted that she’d have blown Clinton herself to keep abortion legal. We learn so much from feminists. Among their platitudes have been that women don’t lie about sexual harassment, and they NEVER lie about rape. And evil men compound the abuse of these women by employing the “nuts and sluts” defense rather than taking the consequences of their invariably obvious guilt.
That’s why Clinton signed a law enabling women to establish a pattern of behavior in sexual harassment suits so as to protect the nuts and sluts from being labelled as such by a cruel phallocentric world. That is, until the nuts and sluts turned out to be women surrounding him at which point women lie about sexual harassment all the time! Just drag a dollar through a trailer park, bucko! And when a woman actually summoned the fortitude to claim she was raped by Bill Clinton on the NBC … LOOK! BUNNIES!! Women lie about being raped all the time, especially when there are roving bands of God-botherers in the woods looking to take down a Democrat.
The left is all kinds of exhausting. All those contortions culminating in the “first black president” being called a racist and “bro’s before ho’s” becoming common expressions once they fixed their child-like gaze on anutha. A brutha. A true lightworker. Who, I feel compelled to mention – once again – has the same position on gay marriage as the Jesusy pseudo-woman with teh fake boobies in California.
Darleen:
It was a dark and stormy night…
How are things going there in Tucson, Fudge-o? Daddy’s hospitality working out for you and the “Mrs.”?
It was a dark and stormy night…
Now Snoopy.
Do you actually have anything original to say?
daisy in your gun
we did have such barefoot fun
i’ll grow up…u first!
My take? An epic, protracted hissy fit.
You couldn’t. I win.
Teleprompter Jesus’s position on gay marriage is the same as Prejean’s
Except that they know Opromta doesn’t really mean it whereas Prejean does. That’s her sin.
How many teleprompter gaffes has Obama had in the 1st 100 days? Anyone know? More than Biden’s general gaffes?
special helmet worn
for my spork/to shovel corn
into my gore car
do not trouble/ soon i will not make
cent’s
u know it!
abe, the 90s seem so long ago that I had almost forgotten that the left really had killed feminism, or at least devoid it of any seriousness.
Seems like the “tolerance” and “diversity” movement is the next to go.
“sure we believe in tolerance and diversity, so long as you agree with every fucking thing we say!”
The southpark episode on this issue is classic. The left sets up intolerance re-education camps where a Hitler like figure insists that “intolerance will not be tolerated!”
You don’t win if you misunderstand the question, TtC. I asked you to explain the reasoning behind the “epic, protracted hissy fit” from OUR point of view, not yours.
But you couldn’t help yourself and gave us yours instead. I was asking you to exercise your obvious intellectual gift, but you failed.
Making me the winner.
That’s not a joke, Phil.
Well, I mean, it is — just not intentionally.
And just so’s ya know…that ain’t her belly button.
What is “But Gloria sure does have Pelosi’s thousand-mile smile, doesn’t she?”
…
“Twintwaffles” for $400 please, Alex.
I was asking you to exercise your obvious intellectual gift, but you failed.
Hahahahahahaha! You funny!
Snark, it’s good.
That requires a number of intellectual and emotional gifts that “Taste the Chain” simply does not have. Real tolerance, true empathy, honest intellectual curiosity…
It’s amazing to me how loudly the left demands we understand the point of view of every beastial human on the planet, while they steadfastly refuse to understand the views of people who literally live next door.
Pam Spaulding aptly demonstrates Feminist creds:
the proggs like deviants like themselves. shut up breeder.
I was trying to be nice.
And you failed miserably. You’re a miserable failure.
And you’re right, it wouldn’t make much sense for people whose taxes had just gone down
That’s a lie. You are a liar.
Next you’ll be claiming Obama created 150,000 new jobs.
See — utterly incapable of thinking outside of its own bubble.
Apparently incapable of thinking in any terms except lefty talking points, too.
Let’s get to some facts here, Obama hates capitalism.
“Pam Spaulding aptly demonstrates Feminist creds”
Pam Spaulding really should not be commenting upon someone else’s appearance.
please the O! man created 150,000 gov’t jobs
#122: Beat me to it, Darleen.
Saved, Darleen. Its saved. The Brakabama has saved jobs here, there and on other planets. The number of jobs our proud little chipmunk in chief has saved is approaching infinity.
Actually four lies, one per paragraph.
It’s like bread and butter.
Umm…no. He’s just trying to get us the hell out of a recession. If tax cuts were the answer, we wouldn’t be in a recession, would we?
“And you’re right, it wouldn’t make much sense for people whose taxes had just gone down”
Then why do so many non-Sodomite Americans go crazy for teh Ghey Marriage?
The Rich whom Obama proposes that we eat are Americans, and I respect their liberty. I object to the perverse principle that one person’s alleged need justifies the confiscation of another’s property, whether or not it is my need or my property. I see that more people will be in that next 1% that needs to be punished for being productive, and that those little politically impotent 1% slices have a way of adding up. I also see that Brakabama’s purposely inflationary policies are a hidden, retroactive tax on existing wealth/property, and I don’t like that, because he’s cutting my shit in half, and no body voted for that.
Speaking of propaganda: Barack Obama dot com on Barack Obama.
In other news, manufacturing has been down for almost two years. Industrial utilization is off a cliff. And most amusingly, a scant hundred days in, the Another Adolescent Democrat President and his unfortunate Treasury pick are already out of favor with a couple boys whose opinions the left favors.
Woops; reality.
tax cuts aren’t the cause of the barney faggot recession.
Umm…no. He’s just trying to get us the hell out of a recession.
Really? Then why is he extending it.
If tax cuts were the answer, we wouldn’t be in a recession, would we?
They are. Obama should try some.
It’s not a recession. It’s the result of bad monetary policy and the resultant global collapse of the monetary system. It’s at best half over, chain, and all the Democrat Keynesianism in the world is only going to make it worse. Which is ironic because all the foot-on-the-gas Keynesianism in the world is just what these fools are applying to our futures.
i like how the “faggots” have an interest in ms. ca. yo dude mr. ca arnold
perez hilton is a faggot
He’s just trying to get us the hell out of a recession
No he’s not. He’s into “redistributing wealth” to make things “more fair”.
He doesn’t care if that means reduced revenues.
good to see traditionally minded people fighting back. Enough is enough. Precisely what dog the former head of planned parenthood had in this fight wasnt made clear.
In better days, Shanna Moakler’s were third wives and Perez Hilton’s got towels or worked in PR for hotels in Palm Springs. that they have achieved status is unflattering for us as a people.
Ah, three, one per sentence. Now hitting a fair pace.
This,
already copyrighted by thor.
It’s not a recession. It’s the result of bad monetary policy and the resultant global collapse of the monetary system. It’s at best half over, chain, and all the Democrat Keynesianism in the world is only going to make it worse. Which is ironic because all the foot-on-the-gas Keynesianism in the world is just what these fools are applying to our futures.
I highly recommend a multi-part economics documentary called “Commanding Heights.” It chronicles the progression in economic thought from Keynes to Hayek and what is most amusing – now – is to behold people like Larry Summers, Jeffrey Sachs and various Clinton acolytes conceding on camera that Keynesian economics are a disaster and that Hayek, Friedman et al. were right all along. It’s spooky how quickly they’ve apparently thrown that view under the bus.
He’s just trying to get us the hell out of a recession.
Liar.
faggot = militant taliban homosexual
oh sorry O! speaks:
faggot = militant teleban homosexual. O! bye the way i “support” your position ms. fake boobs.
Darleen – where is the innovative GOP counter-proposal?
If it exists, where has it been?
(hint – tax cuts do not count as innovation)
“What is clearly needed is a Sodomy tax.”
Y’all can dump your bubble tea into that there San Francisco Bhey and I won’t say one word about it.
where is the innovative….(hint – tax cuts do not count as innovation)
Nice deck-stacking there, crapweasel.
“Darleen – where is the innovative GOP counter-proposal?”
I believe it had something to do with building roads and bridges and such, and less to do with Planned Parenthood funding.
This, of course, assumes that doing something is better than doing nothing, or that doing something can’t fuck it up more than it otherwise might have been.
New is the new black.
It’s the only thing that gives hope’n’changers that high.
Comment by Taste the chain on 5/2 @ 8:25 pm #
Darleen – where is the innovative GOP counter-proposal?
If it exists, where has it been?
You do know that capitalism works given half a chance don’t you?
yea b/c big gov’t must be fed
the dept of education sure did the job. maybe a bj for the statist.
do dem proggs suck rep proggs dick?
or vicaversa
TtC
I guess if Keith Olbermann doesn’t cover it it doesn’t exist, eh?
But I know, for collectivists like you and Barry, the people who actually earn their money are the last ones who should be allowed to decide what to do with it.
for teh FAIRNESS!!1!1
Taste The Stuff On Your Chin.
New is the new good.
It’s the only thing that gives hope’n’changers that high.
But just as nobody wants to contemplate the infiniteness of space, few of the saner lefties want to come to terms with the inevitable trajectory of their mindset. Ever less freedom. Ever more control. But at each step of the way pointing out the next inevitable step is “ridiculous” until such time as we’ve reached the next step at which point pointing out the inevitable next step is ridiculous. There is no utopia for the child-like and chronically miserable.
What’s worked for years, will continue to work if the leftists would just stand back and let it be. We’ve led the world for 200 years; now is not the time to try reinventing failed socialisms.
We are here, now, because of Capitalism, not in spite of Capitalism.
Darleen – where is the innovative GOP counter-proposal?
If it exists, where has it been?
“I won.”
Snark, it’s good.
Hey, Gloria started it.
I should send her a box of candy.
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Kat Parker, two.
Darleen – where is the innovative GOP counter-proposal?
Proposal…for what??
Sean M. is a typical bullshit vendor. The question is what is your better offer? The answer is typical ass. You got nothin.
Where do these idiots keep coming from? Do tax increases count as innovation?
The DLC crowd could at least talk econ without making people stroke out.
While they’re apparently just window dressing, I’d love to force Obama’s economic team to listen to some of our trolls.
maggie sanger liked killing black babies. you go progg.
not letting dumbshit politician take our money
Sean M. is a typical bullshit vendor. The question is what is your better offer? The answer is typical ass. You got nothin.
Fuck you, cynn. The GOP wanted to offer an alternative to the Porkulus, but Barack told them “I won” and Specter, Snowe, and Collins sold out and voted for Nancy and Harry’s bloated bill.
Money, Money, Money, always Money. To hide that it is really about Power always talk about money. Those nutty reichwingers are all about the money and scared about that old devil sex.
thor holds the patent around here. Dazzle them with the “genius” econ. Blind them with the sexual Mondo cane.
Sean M. is a typical bullshit vendor. The question is what is your better offer? The answer is typical ass. You got nothin.
Uh, teh lightworker is he who stated “I won” as Unicorns and Skittles were raining down on his constituencies, sweetcheeks in lieu of any seriousness. But nobody here counts on you to bring the smartness.
Yawn.
this isn’t the same country that gave Reagan a pass
Reagan didn’t “get a pass”, liebot. He beat Carter by almost 10%, and Mondale by almost 20%.
It is the same country. That’s why Teleprompter Jesus and his team of liebots have to keep lying about what he’s planning to do.
Shoulda read:
Uh, teh lightworker is he who stated “I won†as Unicorns and Skittles were raining down on his constituencies in lieu of any seriousness, sweetcheeks. But nobody here counts on you to bring the smartness.
By the way, Pudge-o Whacker, you never answered my question.
How’s Tucson?
Comment by cynn on 5/2 @ 8:48 pm
You are a mean, incoherent drunk, cynn. Please turn off your computer before picking up that brown-bagged bottle.
Just because Pelosi locked Republicans out of any negotiations and Obama dismissed any discussion with them with an arrogant “I won” and his pet-poodle press corp refuse to report on any Repub proposal doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Bitch all you want, but this isn’t the same country that gave Reagan a pass for being an amiable dunce thirty years ago.
Oh good lord, yet more boiler-plate Leftcultism. Non-left = stooopid.
TtC hasn’t an original thought in his/her wooden little head.
I don’t see how having a President Kerry would have forced you to grow up anymore than having a President Obama has.
It does sound like Gordo, doesn’t it. Show us those muscles, Gordo!
Demographic trends say otherwise.
It is the same country.
I dunno, Spies. A lot of the tougher, older generation has died off and left us with the Boomers as the main constituency. And Boomers are nothing if not spoiled and determined to live off the product of others.
I see what this is. It’s payback for our despisal of Bush et.al. Obama’s been in office only 100 or so days. So let’s pile on the fucker while he’s trying to dig himself out of years of shit and months of moronity.
Demographic trends say otherwise.
Yes, but not in the way you think, liebot.
Actually, what it is, cynn, is Laura Ingraham schooling a woman who pretends to be a feminist.
Concentrate.
The Boomers are on their way out, too, Jeffersonian.
That demographic bulge that Fudge-o was going on about is going to be dying off soon.
AT LEAST LET HIM FINISH NATIONALIZING SHIT BEFORE YOU ALL START COMPLAINING!
So, we’ve got to teach history based not on what’s in fashion but what’s important: Why the Pilgrims came here, who Jimmy Doolittle was, and what those thirty seconds over Tokyo meant. You know, four years ago on the fortieth anniversary of D day, I read a letter from a young woman writing of her late father, who’d fought on Omaha Beach. Her name was Lisa Zanatta Henn, and she said, “we will always remember, we will never forget what the boys of Normandy did.” Well, let’s help her keep her word. If we forget what we did, we won’t know who we are. I’m warning of an eradication of the American memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the American spirit. Let’s start with some basics: more attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual. And let me offer lesson number one about America: All great change in America begins at the dinner table. So, tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins. And children, if your parents haven’t been teaching you what it means to be an American, let ’em know and nail ’em on it. That would be a very American thing to do.
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OT: it sounds like Jack Kemp just died.
How much are your smokes, cynn?
You were right when you thought Obama was going to steal money from rich people.
What you didn’t realize was that to him, you count as “rich”.
The Boomers are on their way out, too, Jeffersonian.
Yeah, but before they go they’re going to bankrupt the country with their Medicare, Social Security and porkulus packages. There won’t be shit left but a pile of bills to pay.
“Bitch all you want, but this isn’t the same country that gave Reagan a pass for being an amiable dunce thirty years ago.”
He does have a point. Thirty years ago, the Country hadn’t been softened up enough to go along with an incessant racial guilt trip in place of a Presidential Campaign.
Sorry to say, I don’t see any real way out other than default or hyperinflation, Jeffersonian.
We can’t be blamed for his having dug himself into a pit of shit all those years in Chicago and the morons he brought to town with him. Elevated them so that he could shine, like a beacon of brilliant mediocrity, amongst his cabinet.
Jack Kemp, RIP.
“Comment by Taste the chain on 5/2 @ 8:52 pm #
Bitch all you want, but this isn’t the same country that gave Reagan a pass for being an amiable dunce thirty years ago.”
That “amiable dunce” led our country out of the Carter malaise, destroyed the Soviet Empire and set the country on a, what, 25, 30, 35 year economic expansion that has never been matched.
So take your idiotic reactionary leftist talking points, fold them until they are all corners and shove them up your ass.
Now go Taste the Stuff On Your Chin.
Sorry to say, I don’t see any real way out other than default or hyperinflation, Jeffersonian.
It didn’t end well for Argentina or Brazil, either.
But yeah, Jeff, I agree that the feminista blew her hoof off.
cynn
let’s pile on the fucker while he’s trying to dig himself out of years of shit and months of moronity
No, he’s not, cynn. He doesn’t care about anything but Chavezing the Presidency — where Barry not only is POTUS but gets to run every large business – auto/health/finance – while strangling small businesses.
With no sense of alarm
Fascism… it’s the New Democrat.
ronald reagan the anti bill ayers:
Fascism…the other white meat.
Jake Tapper followed up on the story Lauria put out the other day (naming Rattner as the offical who made the threat), says the White House denies all, of course.
oh heck bill ayers is trumping rr. all your kids belong to us.
rhetorical: how is the AF1 ny thing going?
Chicken, Pork, and fascism. An Atkins plan? For America?
Ooo, this is fun:
“Iraq prime minister ties Saddam regime to captured Al Qaida commander
Officials said leading members of the Al Qaida network have coordinated operations with Saddam aides since 2003. They said Al Qaida and Saddam forces attacked Shi’ites in an effort to spark a civil war in Iraq.
This terrorist had deep ties with the former regime and created with its followers a devil’s pact reflected in bloody scenes of carnage involving innocent children and women and the elderly,” Al Maliki said.”
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2009/me_terror0344_04_30.asp
via Flopping Aces.
So the Iraq War was always was a part of the War on Terror, and not a “diversion”?
It could prove to be something of a stretch N. O’Brain, at least based on this guy, since it’s pretty highly likely that this newly captured asshole, the pretend “Al Baghdadi”, is a johnny-come-lately to the AQI stable (circa 2005/6).
What’s your point, Knob?
I see what this is. It’s payback for our despisal of Bush et.al.
That’s the twisted genius at work. They shrieked hysterically for eight years over nothing and something and everything, going as far over the top as their imaginations could take them, making every accusation under the sun.
So that when their guy got in and started knocking down walls, tearing up the foundation, and feeding the Tenth Amendment (et al.) to the chipper-shredder, they could accuse us of engaging in mere payback.
Brilliant but evil.
are proggs evil? yes they are. satanic evil.
I think something like fatal conceit might become a bit more literal in the coming years.
It’s all just proof that when you cross feminism with the left, what do you get?
The left.
Which, come to think about it, is what you get when you cross anything with the left. It’s really kind of scary to think that leftism did to feminism what the patriarchy could never begin to do: utterly obliterate it, without leaving so much as an oily spot where feminism once stood.
without leaving so much as an oily spot where feminism once stood.
Amanda and Pam have no idea how much of their squeeling about the value of women’s lives is just shouting to the wind since they embrace the collectivism of the left … the Left doesn’t give a fig about women’s lives and is happy to whore out Amanda, et al, to achieve its ends.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 5/2 @ 5:20 pm #
Prejean isn’t a feminist. You have to be a leftist to be a feminist because, in the end, feminism isn’t about women.
BINGO.
Comment by dicentra on 5/2 @ 5:44 pm #
If that’s true–and it’s scary–then what’s the proper response?
Just what you see Laura do here: DON’T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. Call it out. Stop the bus, as Tman said. Resist, resist, resist. And be willing to take the backlash from it, because they won’t go down easy. Watch Bill Whittle’s presentation on the choice to drop the bomb. Imagine that the Japanese are the feminists and we’re the Allied forces. After we dropped the first bomb on Japan, they doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down. The Left will do the same as we ramp up the resistance.
This is war; no squirt guns allowed.
Could not agree more, dicentra.
Bitch all you want, but this isn’t the same country that gave Reagan a pass for being an amiable dunce thirty years ago.
No one even remotely familiar with the things the proggies and the media were saying about Reagan in his time could ever describe him as getting “a pass.”
Tell you what, cynn. How about since you can’t see your hand in front of your face, you stop voting for awhile.
Sometimes I think that one of the major driving forces for modern Feminism is the desire that Lesbian-Americans become equal, not just women.
In other words, Lesbian-Americans are more equal than Feminine-Americans. That would explain that Feldt woman’s throwing overboard the up-to-now entire feminist agenda in order to promote SSM.
But that’s just MY thinking.
Vlad, I think that one of the major driving forces for modern feminism is the desire of some women to be men. Like Perez so deeply wants to be, well, Carrie Prejean. Oh, but to be so pretty.
N. O’Brian @206
RE Saddam’s Ties to Terror: US intelligence showed these connections as early as the late nineties, too. Which makes every briefed Democrat(ic) congress critter who went on to parrot foreign 527’s’ “Bush Lied, No ties to Terror” slogans in a bid to prevent Saddam’s removal by our Marines traitors.
I say, fluff up the sofa pillows, fire up the pop-corn popper and get me my fuzzy slippers. “Torture” memos, Saddam’s known Al Qaida ties, piracy-on-the-seas, hostage-taking and now, nuclear blackmail, are all coming to a town near you. AIG, Napolitano’s DHS memo, and CM were just the warm-up acts…the real show is about to begin.
On topic: Remember Hans Blix? Bush I and Clinton trusted his UN agency to stop proliferation in Saddam’s regime during the nineties and early ‘oughts. Well, he’s on record recently saying he thinks a nuclear Iran could serve as a “useful counterweight” to a nuclear Israel in the region. And yet the UN SC majority, Blix’s boss, has had Iran on its terror and proliferation watch-list for years. Quel horreur, Hans Blix is publicly countermanding his agency’s directives, and he is signaling that his subjective biases disqualify him from what should be a dispassionate, objective inspectorship.
Pondering this Manchurian twist, one wonders whether the UN/US Democrats have been faithful to their committee votes when it comes to post-9/11 foreign affairs, and whether their so-called global consensus’ on everything from global “warming” to “Zionism=Racism” aren’t just so many fronts for evermore lucrative “Whitewater-style” energy deals, Oil-for-food scams, and other nation-busting machinations?
Seems whenever I look into America’s agency problems and moral hazard’s, the same old faces are there gleaming back at me: Kenyan General Secretaries, despotic UN caucuses, lecturing “human rights” groups, GE’s media subsidiaries, Marc Rich and Hillary Clinton, although, these last two may be hallucinations.
I’m stayin’ tuned…and my beer stein’s are chilling in anticipation.
-Steve
And for the real assholes, KICK THEM OFF THE BUS:
FELDT: BLAH BLAH (AD HOMINEM) BLAH (AD HOMINEM) (TU QUOQUE) (BLAH HOMINEM) (AD HOMINEM)…
INGRAHAM: That’s it. Gloria, get out.
FELDT: BLAH (AD HOMINEM) BLAH BLAH…
IINGRAHAM: Walter, cut her mic.
FELDT: BLAH BLAH! BLAH (AD HOMIN—
FELDT:
INGRAHAM: See ya Gloria.
FELDT:
INGRAHAM: Gloria…leave. Get the fuck up, take my fucking microphone off, and don’t let the studio door hit you on the ass on the way out.
INGRAHAM: Sorry folks, I had to ask her to leave when it became clear that, being insusceptible to reason and evidence, she was only here to spew bad faith. Apparently Gloria Feldt isn’t what she says she is and I’m sorry for wasting your time…
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“happy to whore out Amanda”
How ’bout I pay them not to have to have relations with Mizz Marcotte? Ughh. I feel so dirty.
Monday morning/Sunday evening links…
Go shopping to save your soul.
Why students don’t like school. Hmm. I liked school. Maggie’s is my school, for now.
Jack Kemp’s enduring legacy
How to bake a trencher. I like the idea. No dishes.
Habits and vocation. Anchoress
Is exhaustion onl…
Repeating what was said in the third comment. I guess breast implants are anti-equality and justice, according to Feldt.
And obviously an eye and face lift that’s so fucking high and tight you can’t blink is pure feminism.
Ugh.
Oh, my. If it hadn’t been for Reagan, Wiedervereinigung would still be a German fantasy, Poland would still be under USSR’s heel, and…oh, USSR would still exist. Granted, Reagan deteriorated quite a bit his last couple of years in office, but without him having taken the hard line, there would still be a Berlin Wall.
I’m guessing that TtC thinks that’s a bad thing, though.
If Reagan had listened to me about stem cell research he would still be alive, you know.
They didn’t have stem cells back then.
“It’s all just proof that when you cross feminism with the left, what do you get?
The left.
Which, come to think about it, is what you get when you cross anything with the left. It’s really kind of scary to think that leftism did to feminism what the patriarchy could never begin to do: utterly obliterate it, without leaving so much as an oily spot where feminism once stood.”
The whole philosophy of Hell rests on recognition of the axiom that one thing is not another thing, and specially, that one self is not another self. My good is my good and your good is yours. What one gains another loses. Even an inanimate object is what it is by excluding all other objects from the space it occupies; if it expands, it does so by thrusting other objects aside or by absorbing them. A self does the same. With beasts the absorption takes the form of eating; for us, it means the sucking of will and freedom out of a weaker self into a stronger.
-The Screwtape Letters
They didn’t have stem cells back then.
That’s right. I hadn’t invented them yet.
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