43 Replies to “Just how fucked in a US under Obama?”

1. Lost My Cookies says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:09 pm

   Iran with pyramids.

2. Bob Reed says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm

   Well and truly…

3. Bob Reed says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm

   Obama’s not worried about US interests, only that he isn’t in the Carter-esque fashion as the President that lost Egypt; and penalized at the ballot box in the same way that Carter was.

4. Ernst Schreiber says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm

   Relax Islam means peace and jihad is just the internal personal struggle to better one’s self.

   Or so we keep telling them.

5. bh says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm

   I’m having problems getting my head around this. Just unbelievable.

6. Bob Reed says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:19 pm

   The only question is are Clapper’s remarks more a case of incompetence, or something closer to propaganda directed from on high?

7. dicentra says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm

   More inane assertions from Clapper here and here.

8. bh says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm

   That was my initial reaction as well, Bob. I have to think it comes from Obama.

   Regardless, he appointed the guy so it’s his responsibility. Fire him or we’ll know the situation clear as day.

9. MC says:

   February 10, 2011 at 1:27 pm

   Clapper’s just repeating what he’s hearing out of the policy and state people. Call us a State of Irony. We are the recipients of a worldwide supremacy in military power unparalleled in all of history and 44 and his minions are intent on driving the Executive Branch into irrelevancy.

   Which could get us all killed.

10. Bob Reed says:

    February 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Well bh,
    I’m pretty sure that when his remarks get played far and wide, as they most certainly will, Obama will feel the pressure to, as you say, “Fire him, or we’ll know the situation…”

    I can’t see the vast majority of Americans countencing such a fantasy version of reality; especially when the views of the MB, their stated goal of establishing a world-wide Caliphate, come out in the open.

    Even the most mushiest of the low information types will have to see shadows of Iran’s mullahs in the MB’s ideals.

11. sdferr says:

    February 10, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Peter Berkowitz writes in praise of excellence among individual men as a concomitant prerequisite to constitutional conservatism, and of these together as the means to extricate the polity from its growing corruptions.

    The rise over the last three generations of conservative thinkers determined to restore America’s constitutional tradition, moreover, reflects the importance the constitutional tradition itself attaches to intellectual excellence. Educated to a degree that is today difficult to comprehend, America’s founders believed — and demonstrated through their remarkable political handiwork — that a proper understanding of the principles of self-government and the ability to meet the challenges of the day rested on intimate knowledge of the classics and of the moderns as well as first hand experience of governing and commerce.

    This notion, too, fits well with the current rejection of the multiculturalist programs long rampant in education.

12. sdferr says:

    February 10, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Hudson Institute forum on Egyptian democratic possibility, with a critical view of the Ikhwan in particular. Panel includes Sam Tadros (who wrote that letter circulated last week?), Lee Smith, Paul Marshall and Douglas Feith. h/t Marshall at the Corner.

13. Shaitan says:

    February 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Today, the DNI also released a report that Israel was pretty much “non-Jewish” and the Vatican was responsible for amorality.

14. Joe says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper called Egypt’s branch of the Muslim Brotherhood movement “largely secular.”

    Translation: Well at least they are not the Knights of Columbus. Because they are anti choice.

15. Joe says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    If you believe the restoration of a Caliphate Pan-Islamic State under Sharia law is “largely scecular,” then perhaps James Clapper is correct.

16. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    So if the Muslim Brotherhood has a seat at the table of the next Egyptian government, what should the US response be?

17. McGehee says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    A very deep bow.

18. Mike LaRoche says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Yep, nothing says “secular” like the name Muslim Brotherhood.

19. bh says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    So if the Muslim Brotherhood has a seat at the table of the next Egyptian government, what should the US response be?

    Sorta hard to have a sensible response as we’ve actively encouraged their invitation to the table.

    Let me ask you: Do you think that was a good idea?

20. Ernst Schreiber says:

    February 10, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    This reminds of the time some well-placed useful idiot called the Khmer Rouge “agrarian reformers.”

    Although I don’t think particular misplaced pantload did so in front of a House subcommittee.

21. bh says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Via AoSHQ, Tapper:

    Jamie Smith, director of the office of public affairs for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence later said in a statement to ABC News: “To clarify Director Clapper’s point – in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under Mubarak’s rule, one that is largely secular in its orientation – he is well aware that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization.”

    Got that? Not secular but secular in orientation.

    In related news, Liberace wasn’t gay. No, he was just super fabulous in orientation.

    Fire him. And, for this further insult to our intelligence, see if we can take away his pension.

22. sdferr says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    That Hudson Inst. forum was very good. Noted especially the Lee Smith presentation citing the historical questions still prominent in Islamists’s minds, namely, if Islam is the answer, how come Allah hadn’t led us to be better able to protect ourselves from the relatively easy conquest of Napoleon (and later other European powers)?

    Answer?: Since it can’t be Allah’s fault (by definition), it must be due to the insufficiency of our devotion to our faith. We must renew ourselves in that faith.

    So for the faithful, there is simply no possibility that the faith itself (or Allah himself, since he establishes the faith) can be at fault for their human insufficiencies. This is a difficulty we might think that any theocratic regime will find troublesome. Which is to say, not merely Muslim theocracies.

23. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Let me ask you: Do you think that was a good idea?

    I think it would have been a worse idea not to invite them.

    Meanwhile we probably should double down on bribes to the military.

24. Jeff G. says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I think for freedom would should just ignore what the muslim brotherhood is. after all, who are we to decide the direction egypt goes?

    Well, except when we call for the President to step down immediately, I mean.

    But other than that —

25. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    and maybe quadruple down on food supplies.

26. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Well, except when we call for the President to step down immediately, I mean.

    Yeah but would Biden be any better?

27. Jeff G. says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    and maybe quadruple down on food supplies.

    i bought some palestinian wheat the other day. It was little mealy frankly.

28. JD says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Usually, people with initials AR really really devastatingly cool.

29. JD says:

    February 10, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    AR is are. Fuck this spell check.

30. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    i bought some palestinian wheat the other day. It was little mealy frankly.

    I think the Palestinians get their supplies from Big Lots.

31. Joe says:

    February 10, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    BT posted on 2/10 @ 2:24 pm
    So if the Muslim Brotherhood has a seat at the table of the next Egyptian government, what should the US response be?

    McGehee posted on 2/10 @ 2:40 pm
    A very deep bow.

    Now that is funny.

32. Joe says:

    February 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    The feed store has a sale on galvanized garbage cans. Good for storing a few sack of rice and keeping the rats out.

33. Jeff G. says:

    February 10, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    I think the Palestinians get their supplies from Big Lots.

    I heard the jews controlled that. It was a throw-in in the deal where they took over world banking and hollywood. So there’s some irony there.

34. BT says:

    February 10, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Learn something new everyday. Banking huh?

35. Jeff G. says:

    February 10, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Learn something new everyday. Banking huh?

    that’s what their last newsletter said.

    of course, they’re shifty people, so, you know, grain of salt and all that…

36. Ernst Schreiber says:

    February 10, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    A newsletter? Is that something you’re automatically signed up for at the moment of birth?

37. Mikey NTH says:

    February 10, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    “Yep, nothing says “secular” like the name Muslim Brotherhood.”

    At least they aren’t fanatical extremists like those Episcopalians.

38. Pablo says:

    February 10, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Let’s not forget that we’re talking about this idiot. Completely, utterly and unforgivably. Tommorow’s Friday. Let’s bury his firing there. Because of the news cycle!

39. Mueller says:

    February 11, 2011 at 5:46 am

    #35
    Well they need to update the fucking Protocols, then. Because nowhere in my copy does it mention ,’Big Lots’.

    Since when have we had a newsletter?

40. LTC John says:

    February 11, 2011 at 7:08 am

    T.E. Lawrence wept…

    Is anyone in the current Intel structure of the US Gov’ment have ANY knowledge of who is who in the Arab world? Could they please call their supervisor STAT, and give them a little update?

    I suppose we may replace the DNI and CIA heads, but I shudder to think with whom!

41. Mueller says:

    February 11, 2011 at 7:14 am

    Where’d they find this Clapper guy anyway? I think before he got this WH gig he was smoking crack in some alley somewhere.

42. happyfeet says:

    February 11, 2011 at 7:17 am

    at the end of the day it’s nice that in these dark times failshit America could give the world a good chuckle

    freedom lol

43. McGehee says:

    February 11, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Is anyone in the current Intel structure of the US Gov’ment have ANY knowledge of who is who in the Arab world?

    Well, let’s see. There’s Achmed, and Abdul, and Mohammed (mustn’t leave him out — best cabbie in New York), and…

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