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"How environmentalists do it when Congress fails them"

Hint: it involves an increasingly powerful unelected portion of government that the left consistently seeks to expand.

Hint the second: it rhymes with “mederal poorocrisy”.

Any guesses?

0 Replies to “"How environmentalists do it when Congress fails them"”

  1. happyfeet says:

    is there any reason to think this would be different if we had elected Meghan’s regulation-loving coward daddy?

  2. Spiny Norman says:

    This thread is now about John McCain and his unworthy chillbilly attention-whore VP selection…

    Sorry Jeff. I know you tried.

  3. LTC John says:

    hf craps in another thread… AJB meet hf.

    The only to stop this to remove the very ability to do this – of course this would require a Congress that gave a crap about its responsibilities and an Executive that kept its own agencies in control. This could take a while.

  4. happyfeet says:

    this is a problem what both parties heartily contribute to

  5. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Are we all sufficiently dismayed at the present situation to finally believe the founders had it right with their “list of the three greatest threats to personal liberties”?

    – I’m convinced.

  6. Pablo says:

    This is why we need to sunset the entire US Code and make Congress work from home when they start over.

  7. Rob Crawford says:

    The only to stop this to remove the very ability to do this – of course this would require a Congress that gave a crap about its responsibilities and an Executive that kept its own agencies in control. This could take a while.

    Would even a Constitutional amendment forbidding Congress from delegating regulatory authority work?

  8. Rob Crawford says:

    This is why we need to sunset the entire US Code and make Congress work from home when they start over.

    Work from home?! Too comfortable for them. Move them to Detroit.

  9. happyfeet says:

    I think maybe getting the ABA out of the administrative law judge selection process might could be a healthy step in the right direction.

    The Administrative Procedure Act of 1946 (APA) requires that federal ALJs be appointed based on scores achieved in a comprehensive testing procedure, including a four-hour written examination and an oral examination before a panel that includes an OPM representative, American Bar Association representative, and a sitting federal ALJ. Federal ALJs are the only merit-based judicial corps in the United States.*

  10. Pablo says:

    Work from home?! Too comfortable for them. Move them to Detroit.

    These fuckers would turn all of Detroit into the Taj Mahal for their own edification and on our dime in a hot minute. Moving expenses, of course. No, we need to keep them away from each other as much as possible, so we can keep an eye on them and minimize the opportunity for conspirin’.

  11. Squid says:

    Easiest solution to bureaucratic overreach? Just ignore ’em. Civil disobedience did wonders for the civil rights movement; it’s past time we put it to work for individual liberty.

  12. Ric Locke says:

    Every order, command, rule, regulation, edict, or other ukase of Government, however named or styled, for which any person found in violation may be deprived of life, liberty, or property to any degree, is a Law; and every Law of the United States shall be placed before the Congress and the President as described in Article 1, section 7 of this Constitution; but no Bill shall be placed before the President, except after it has been read aloud, in its entirety, before a quorum of each Chamber of the Congress, or one-half plus one of the Members of such Chamber, whichever is the greater number. Every Law of the United States which was made before adoption of this Article shall remain in force for five (5) years after adoption of this Article, and shall be utterly expunged after that period has passed.

    It would slow them down a bit, at least.

    Regards,
    Ric

  13. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Slow them down, hell the Bumbblefucks healthcare bill is 2200 pages, and the first draft of “regulations” is another 4300+ pages. That’s a single bill.

    – Talk about a grandfather clause.

  14. David R. Block says:

    Grandfather clause?? At that size it’s a King Kong clause!!

  15. cranky-d says:

    I like that proposal, Ric. I was thinking about limiting the page count on every bill, but your way is better.

    Of course, one of the big problems with most of those gigantic bills is how they spell out the unequal treatment people will receive, depending on which identity group and/or union to which they belong, and how the government will set prices. I’m pretty sure that my take on the Constitution makes both of those things illegal.

  16. How environmentalists do it when Congress fails them

    I thought they just used sheep.

  17. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – How are they going to enforce a bill, let alone it’s regulations, that everyone admits no one has even read?

  18. Pablo says:

    – How are they going to enforce a bill, let alone it’s regulations, that everyone admits no one has even read?

    That’s what bureaucrats are for. And I wouldn’t say that ho one has read them. The people who write them read them, though they’re never listed as authors.

  19. cranky-d says:

    They will expect us to obey, and we usually do. Won’t they be surprised when that stops happening?

    Outlaw!

  20. ak4mc says:

    Ric, just because they’re present won’t mean they’re paying attention. I want them fully conscious and unable to think of anything else but the bill being read to them.

    So, once elected to Congress, no iPod/BlackBerry/xBox/GameBoy for you!

    …is what I’m thinkin’. At least in the chamber.

    Texting while legislating should be a capital offense.

  21. Ric Locke says:

    I don’t care whether they listen or not, to tell you the truth. What I want to do is slow them down and keep them from doing anything else — that’s why the size restriction; it means there aren’t enough left to do a parallel session.

    Maximum speaking speed even for a professional announcer is well under 200 words per minute, and most people come in at 80-100. As long as it takes a while I’m happy. I did think of requiring the reader to be a randomly-selected member of the Chamber, which would mean that every time one of those stuffed portmanteaus came up, the members would have to face the possibility that they’d be the one reading it to a gang of sleepers.

    Criticizing the grandfather clause is just silly, although I’d be open to suggestions as to the best wording. Facing the prospect of waking up one morning with no laws at all would make passage of this amendment literally impossible. There aren’t nearly enough pollyannaish libertarians.

    Regards,
    Ric

  22. cranky-d says:

    Make it so they each have to read a paragraph, like reading aloud in grade school, and call their names out randomly. If they don’t know where they are in the text when called upon to read, they lose their seat.

    Also, they should have to stand the whole time.

  23. SDN says:

    This is why I keep saying that elections aren’t going to matter much until we give the President broader powers to fire bureaucrats. The Federal Civil Service is owned in fee simple by the Democratic Party. Exhibit A: the DOJ that Bush supposedly politicized gave to O!s campaign by 2-1.

    We also need to start making the ecofreaks worried that having their names on these ridiculous lawsuits will have unfortunate consequences.

  24. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I wasn’t referring to “the grandfathering clause” in the normal sense Ric. Twas a play on words, wherein a system such as you propose would consume so much time just to introduce and pronounce bills on the chamber floor, (add in amendments to the mix), a legislator would start the morass of bills and it would be his grandson that finished, if they ever could.

  25. Met Life Snoopy says:

    The EPA had its budget increased by 29% from 8 billion to 10.5 billion which gives one a very good indication of how Barry planned to get Cap and Trade implemented.

    Dismantle the entire government and America would prosper.

  26. Ernst Schreiber says:

    You could amend the Civil Service Act(s?) so as to strip Federal Employees of their protection for partisan activity (other than voting or contributing minimally –under $500 to campaigns). Maybe require them to list D.C. as their permanent residence for registration purposes, regardless of where they live or are employed by the Gubmint.

    Yeah, right.

  27. Jim in KC says:

    We’ve seen this before, of course. (Well, not “we,” specifically, unless any fellow PW commenters are true Methuselahs):

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

  28. happyfeet says:

    mail fail

    The commission also warned that the Postal Service may not be able to meet a statutory 10-year payment schedule, averaging around $5.5 billion a year, to create a fund to pay for future retiree health premiums.

    “It has been unable to fund this obligation from operations and has instead used up all of its retained earnings and drawn down from its $15 billion borrowing authority,” the commission statement said.

    “Even with the requested increase, the Postal Service would be unable to meet this annual obligation either in 2011 or in succeeding years.”*

  29. cranky-d says:

    I smell another bailout coming.

  30. newrouter says:

    get rid of civil service. go back to the spoils system. every 4-8 years huge fed work force turnover.

  31. newrouter says:

    nasty environment

    The newly unveiled “official” architectural renderings of the Ground Zero Mosque, now being rebranded and sanitized as the “Park 51 Community Center” reveal a disturbing, insidious message.

    link

  32. happyfeet says:

    Geller isn’t just kooky she’s Lifetime movie of the week kooky

  33. newrouter says:

    Geller isn’t just kooky she’s Lifetime movie of the week kooky

    nice shot but what about the building

  34. happyfeet says:

    the building is fucking victory mosque with no place to hang a planter

  35. happyfeet says:

    which means no caladiums

  36. bh says:

    If I had to guess they’re probably intentional but actually an attempt to appear multi-culti and tolerant. Think coexist bumper sticker rather than Kristallnacht.

  37. newrouter says:

    the pigeons will like it

  38. Andrew the Noisy says:

    get rid of civil service. go back to the spoils system. every 4-8 years huge fed work force turnover.

    Let’s not get crazy. The spoils systems was retired for a reason.

    There’s nothing wrong with having a professional civil service. There is something wrong with having public employees who can’t be fired.

    Fixing this should be a matter of will. If it isn’t, then we have many many other problems.

  39. Ric Locke says:

    The spoils system was retired because favoritism put unqualified people in positions of authority.

    The Civil Service system allows unqualified people to reach positions of authority, whereupon they remain for the rest of their lives.

    Returning to the spoils system would at least give us some NEW unqualified assholes from time to time.

    Regards,
    Ric

  40. newrouter says:

    The Civil Service system allows unqualified people to reach positions of authority

    oh no they’re well “qualified” it is they are idiots too

  41. newrouter says:

    the spoils system would keep the bureaucracy in constant churn mode. too busy trying not to offend the electorate so they can keep their phony jobs

  42. ak4mc says:

    – I wasn’t referring to “the grandfathering clause” in the normal sense Ric. Twas a play on words, wherein a system such as you propose would consume so much time just to introduce and pronounce bills on the chamber floor, (add in amendments to the mix), a legislator would start the morass of bills and it would be his grandson that finished, if they ever could.

    ‘Twas how I read it, BBH. FWIW

  43. ‘Course the real solution to this problem would be simply to start sunsetting unecessary federal bureacracies.

    Let the beasties fight for the remaining jobs.

  44. ak4mc says:

    nice shot but what about the building

    Those are not Stars of David. They have eight points while the Mogen has six.

  45. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – While all of the rest of the country is immersed in this perfect storm of governmental meltdown and financial misery, the Golden Urkel’s Utopian legions are busy trying to come up with erudite solutions to all of the issues at hand.

    – What? You say no they’re not?

    – Then whatever are they doing instead?

    – Energetically focusing all their energies on something else?

    Oh. Of course, silly me.

  46. Thank you for that reductio ad absurdum fail.

    You are the funniest troll on the internet.

  47. newrouter says:

    We should dismantle the US military as well

    like the border defense is in the constitution unlike obamacare

  48. newrouter says:

    meg’s nanny’s lawyer

    HH: But Gloria, do you know the law? Did you talk to your immigration lawyer?

    GA: And I’m going to tell you this. Since you’re not interested in hearing the facts, I’m going to have to terminate this conversation, but I thank you so much for inviting me, and I wish you the very best…

    HH: Gloria, please don’t hang up. The people have a right to know when you bring a stunt like this…

    GA: I wish you the very best of luck, and since you only…

    HH: The people have a right to know, when you try to sabotage the political process, you’ve got to stand up and take the heat, Gloria, or you should leave the kitchen.

    GA: All right, you know something? I understand, I understand that you, you have no interest in helping housekeepers or the people who have no money. I do.

    HH: I have an interest in the truth, Gloria. You can’t handle the truth. I’ve always wanted to say that.

    GA: Well, you can’t handle letting me finish a sentence, because you’re afraid of the truth.

    HH: Oh…

    GA: Thank you, and goodbye.

    HH: Gloria, please don’t go.

    link

  49. like the border defense is in the constitution unlike obamacare

    The constitution says what we say it says, jesuslanders.

    It’s called reading. Try it sometime.

  50. dicentra says:

    My proposal would be to

    1) Require that all budgeting and allocations be packaged in bundles of $xxx million. They can wheel and deal all they want as to what goes into which bundle and they can split allocations between or among bundles, but they have to vote on each bundle separately.

    2) Recast the commerce clause to specify “insterstate tarrifs” or some such.

    3) Require congresscritters to live in their own districts and telecommute. They can convene at the Capitol for the SotU and maybe a kickoff meeting, but that’s all.

    4) Abolish all regulatory bodies. What do I care if planes fall from the sky for want of the FAA? I don’t live in an airport flight path.

    5) Floor pie Thursdays!

  51. dicentra says:

    which means no caladiums

    Caladiums take forever to sprout when you plant the bulbs yourself. Three, four months before they nose out.

    I’m serious.

  52. dicentra says:

    Buncha whiny socialists sucking at the federal teat, I tells ya.

    Socialism: When the state controls all means of production.

    Military: Not a means of production.

  53. newrouter says:

    I was simply channeling an earlier version of Rand Paul

    link it liar

  54. Oh, I get it. Because criticizing the use of force overseas is exactly the same as desire the end of our armed services.

    Lefties do hate the military! Definitive PROOF!!1!!

  55. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Gloria “I never met an ambulance I wouldn’t chase” should have been disbarred decades ago.

    – This is a flash-bang granade in political parlance of dirty tricks. You stir up a shit storm with totally miscast suspects and skewed testimonials against your opponent, and hope the cloud doesn’t disperse and your perfidious unsupported claims aren’t discovered until after the vote.

    – Brown is showing his desperation with this.

  56. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I also predict, given the political atmosphere and expected voter turnout, this ploy will backfire on him badly. As the truth dribbles out over the next couple of weeks him and his buds in SF will have managed to turn her into a sympathetic character. Meggan I mean.

  57. Ah, hell, just lost a good sock.

  58. newrouter says:

    i think that alot of pigeon shit on the new gzm will add value symbolically.

  59. newrouter says:

    levin is tearing up gloria

  60. newrouter says:

    Ask the Krupp family.

    they were in the military?

  61. ak4mc says:

    Herr Krump’s daughter Big Bertha was in the artillery.

    Oh, sorry. She was the artillery.

  62. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – You can get away with a lot in politics, but good ole Gloria jumped the shark on this one. Watching the instability of her star witness today I give her a week or less before she comes apart at the seems and rolls over on Gloria and the Dem political machine with “They said they’d help me and I’m so desperate, but now they’re not doing anything so its just not fair”, or something along those lines.

    – Brown may have just agreed to his own political execution by trying this stunt. But it’s understandable. He was never any good at reading the political atmosphere, forever basking in moonbeams.

  63. Andrew the Noisy says:

    Ends of production/motives of production are exactly the same as means of production.

    Oh, come in, equivocator.

  64. happyfeet says:

    caladiums are shy

  65. newrouter says:

    levin put gloria away

  66. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Where be that newrouter?

  67. newrouter says:

    is pigeon shit shy?

  68. newrouter says:

    wabc mark levin had gloria on from 730-800 pm est fun

  69. newrouter says:

    looking at the picture of the new gzm i see alot of pigeon shit streaks in moe’s future.

  70. newrouter says:

    gloria’s problem: you can do her drive-by once these days

  71. happyfeet says:

    in a just world Anderson Cooper’s shoes would a lot help pigeon shit overcome shyness I think

  72. Stephanie says:

    Info on the Andy McCarthy speech at Emory next Wednesday for those interested

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/247460/upcoming-andrew-mccarthy-lecture-nr-staff

    Will email with details on the meetup…

  73. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    Why stop with the postal service? We should dismantle the US military as well.

    No, because we all agreeing to do it would be “Socialism”, too. Hey, just like agreeing to operate Constitutionally!

  74. The Deputy Assistant Undersecratary for Non-Discriminatory Applications to Form AASD-413 G-MASS Interconnectivity Regimens for the Northwestern CGT Sector Subset says:

    Give civil servants 10 percent of every dollar they do NOT spend based on their last year’s budget, and watch the fun as the federal government evaporates.

    Once they get to a number statistically indistinguishable from ZERO outside of salaries, pay the GS-15’s 5% of every salary they can do without and the federal workforce will evaporate.

  75. The Deputy Assistant Undersecratary for Non-Discriminatory Applications to Form AASD-413 G-MASS Interconnectivity Regimens for the Northwestern CGT Sector Subset says:

    …workforce will evaporate [too].

  76. The Deputy Assistant Undersecratary for Non-Discriminatory Applications to Form AASD-413 G-MASS Interconnectivity Regimens for the Northwestern CGT Sector Subset says:

    My job pays me 150,000 dollars a year plus benefits that you cannot possibly imagine.

    I come and go as I please.

    I get every possible holiday off.

    When I am in my office I don’t actually do anything but shop on line for hookers and shoes.

    I have flex-time so I’m really only supposed to be here three days a week.

    No one, including me, has any idea what I am supposed to be doing.

    I do the DC three L’s…Login…lunch…leave.

    You guys are suckers for paying me this much.

  77. Jeff, my guess is “Incredible Whoreocracy”.

    Because, if it has to do with Washington, there’s ALWAYS whores involved…

  78. Ultima, you’re STILL a moron. The Military is a means of DESTRUCTION, not production.

    As well as being one of the few CONSTTUTIONAL mandates of the Federal government. So, failbot all the way around, and you lose at teh intarwebz today…

  79. newrouter says:

    I do the DC three L’s…Login…lunch…leave.

    the pelosi cockus

  80. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    But, logically to Progg/Commies, the Military is the only means of production – how else to control the Slaves?

  81. LTC John says:

    I do believe there is omethinng about standing Armies and all that in ye olde Constitution. Fair lot of olde thought on militias too (National Guard, thanks very much). Government ordering people, upon pain of penalty, to purchase contracts for “insurance’, not so much.

  82. LTC John says:

    I do remember that the US Army rather forcefully ended slavery within our borders. Can go to the local cemetary and see plenty of their headstones still.

  83. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    Then how else is Progg Communism going to “create wealth”? That is, without a valid profit incentive, and when Marxist Socialism/Communism has never done it yet?

  84. Rob Crawford says:

    The newly unveiled “official” architectural renderings of the Ground Zero Mosque, now being rebranded and sanitized as the “Park 51 Community Center” reveal a disturbing, insidious message.

    I don’t buy the Star of David idea, but I do think it odd that with the inset on the roofline and the pattern on the facade, it looks like the building was hit with something and has shattered.

    Of course, I could be the only person in the world who would see it that way. I doubt it, though.

  85. newrouter says:

    , it looks like the building was hit with something and has shattered.

    yes that’s a nice thing for a moe building to show 2 blocks away. me i like the crescent in shankesville. keep the moe theme alive

  86. newrouter says:

    i like moe and his loser followers and proggs. stupid and dumber and idiots

  87. LTC John says:

    8 point star is a symbol of Islam. Actually I thought it looked like a legion of drunk spiders had spun cement webs over the building’s sides.

  88. newrouter says:

    spun cement webs over the building’s sides.

    the moe people don’t like the feces. some good pigeon shit on their temple of doom is funny.

  89. SDN says:

    LTC John, which of the Founders considered the militia limited to the National Guard? I’ve never found one. Oh, and the US Code doesn’t either; see Sec 10.

  90. LTC John says:

    SDN, the National Guard is the militia, mostly, not exclusively – we just happen to be the most direct successor to most states’ organized militias.

  91. LTC John says:

    Title 32 is the part of the USC to look at. Title 10 is the Active folks.

  92. SDN says:

    Nope, Title 10:

    (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
    (b) The classes of the militia are—
    (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
    (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

  93. LTC John says:

    SDN – right, and when National Guard are called to active duty, they fall under Title 10. The section you cite is definitions. When do the state miltias/National Guard belong to the feds? When they are “federalized”. If not, they belong to the states.
    Federal militia being called up…hmmm. Been a while.

  94. LTC John says:

    I am not sure the point you are trying to make SDN?

  95. Kevin says:

    I’m going to guess “ethereal smackoscopy”. Did I win?

  96. SDN says:

    My point is that the Founders would have considered the militia NOT to be the National Guard (which, especially today, is a de facto extension of the Federal Military) but “The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States” and “(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.”

    Your original comment seemed to indicate that only the National Guard was the militia.