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This has nothing to do with you people, but I have to say it

Humans, for the most part, are untrustworthy, disloyal, lying, self-interested assfuckers. And that includes the ones you’ve had in your house.

Don’t trust a one of them.

143 Replies to “This has nothing to do with you people, but I have to say it”

  1. Joe says:

    You are just finding this out now?

  2. Schwag-grabbin' Steve says:

    Hey, I’m not an assfucker!

  3. Ric Locke says:

    It may not be an absolute truth, but it’s definitely the way to bet.

    Regards,
    Ric

  4. Darleen says:

    Trust but verify

  5. Darleen says:

    People are not basically good.

  6. VitriolicCynic says:

    Human nature is an overlooked factor in how you evaluate things in this world. I came to Jeff’s conclusion quite a while ago.

  7. proudvastrightwingconspirator says:

    Sadly, it’s those closest to us that disappoint us the most.
    We build up our expectations for those we allow into our inner circle, and, too often, we are left disappointed and feeling betrayed.
    Such is human nature in most cases.

    That said, whomever wronged you must have committed a pretty heinous act to garner the label “assfucker”.

  8. T+T says:

    You’ve become a Calvinist?

  9. VitriolicCynic says:

    I had the same thing come to mind, T+T.

  10. Carin says:

    In my house? Oh, but they’re relatives.

    But, I must say, the dogs never liked ’em. I should trust their judgment always.

  11. JD says:

    Mean people suck

  12. Carin says:

    Now, chickens. I don’t trust them anymore. I used to think they’d just hang around the garden. Nope. Apparently some will make straight for the woods.

  13. newrouter says:

    oh my

    t is my opinion that LTC Lakin’s request for discovery relating to the President’s birth records in Hawaii is absolutely essential to determining not merely his guilt or innocence but to reassuring all military personnel once and for all for this President whether his service as Commander in Chief is Constitutionally proper. He is the one single person in the Chain of Command that the Constitution demands proof of natural born citizenship. This determination is fundamental to our Republic, where civilian control over the military is the rule. According to our Constitution, the Commander in Chief must now, in the face of serious– and widely held– concerns that he is ineligible, either voluntarily establish his eligibility by authorizing release of his birth records or this court must authorize their discovery. The invasion of his privacy in these records is utterly trivial compared to the issues at stake here.

    Invasion of privacy? There is no “invasion of privacy” concern, just the same as there is no invasion of privacy when I take a job and must show my Social Security card to Human Resources on day one.

    I’m getting sort of tired of telling other people they’re crazy to want to see this.

    They’re not crazy. They want to cross the t’s and dot the i’s.

    Why the hell is Obama playing games? You wanted the job, dickhead, so go down to Human Resources and put your friggin’ Social Security card on the copying machine like every other person.

    And frankly — why is the MFM carrying the water on him? Precisely when did it become “outrageous” for people to ask for a friggin’ birth certificate?

    What exactly is the hold-up here, Champ? You’re starting to make me worry a little here. I vouched for you on this, Sporto, you know? You gonna embarrass me in front of my friends, or are you going to make a ten minute trip to Kinko’s?

    http://minx.cc/?post=305274

  14. bh says:

    Given the available hints I’m thinking a gay cable guy and a DVR rental fee hidden in the small print.

    More seriously, you have your wife and kid. That’s an awful lot.

  15. VitriolicCynic says:

    Newrouter, my take on the birth certificate is that Obama has one, it proves his natural citizenship is valid, but until he absolutely has to produce it, he won’t. He has no incentive to otherwise, and it gives his opponents something to fight over amongst themselves.

    The only problem with this view, is that it presupposes that Obama is a smart politician….

  16. Abe Froman says:

    Everyone hates assfuckers. Even assfuckers. It’s a veritable cycle of assfucking out there.

  17. dicentra says:

    People, people, people:

    It was the ‘dillo what done him wrong.

    Not that he was ever the least bit trustworthy, but everyone has a line, and he musta crossed Jeff’s.

  18. dicentra says:

    The only problem with this view, is that it presupposes that Obama is a smart politician….

    He’s a crafty politician, having come of age in the Chicago Machine. If he hadn’t been entirely venal and entirely cunning, he’d never have gotten where he is.

  19. dicentra says:

    It took me four break rooms and two floors to find a vending machine with a pink-frosting sugar cookie in it, and when I opened the bin to retrieve my lovely treat, there was also a bag of white-cheddar popcorn lying there that someone had forgotten.

    THOSE OF YOU WHO DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD NEED TO CONSIDER THIS BIT OF EVIDENCE IS ALL I’M SAYING.

  20. Makewi says:

    A modern interpretation of water from a rock?

    Amen.

  21. bh says:

    When I’m facing basic doubts about mankind, I sometimes like to listen to Turkish pop songs about Facebook.

  22. Joe says:

    Carin, Did that chiocken ever come back?

    Why did the chicken leave Carin’s yard?

  23. VitriolicCynic says:

    I’m skeptical of his craft at this point dicentra. Even someone with basic political skills could have read the past few election cycles, and navigated accordingly. He just took a brute force, tone deaf approach.

    Insty linked to this illustration of how inept he is for a Chicago pol.

  24. All this talk about @$$f!ng…Wonkette’s ears must be burning by now.

  25. JHo says:

    I done fear most folk ain’t even brought themselves to consider why politicians get theirselfs elected. Trusting Obarky is simply unforgivable.

  26. Carin says:

    Joe, yes. I didn’t want to put it in the current thread, but I just updated the status a few hours ago. I made paths through the brush, so she couldn’t get too deep into the forest, and we FINALLY caught her a few hours ago. My legs have scratches all over ’em, as do my kids, but we’ve got the chicken back.

    I’m gonna post a picture of the bird, as well as the area she was in, tomorrow on my blog, for those interested/bored tomorrow ;)

  27. happyfeet says:

    when I got home my sister had sent me like a ton and a half of brownies and chocolate covered macadamia nuts… ever since we became orphans she’s the most awesome sister ever

  28. newrouter says:

    oh no

    he nonsense about President Obama being a Muslim has got to stop. I rise to defend him from this absurd accusation by pointing out that he is obviously an atheist.

    Leave aside Obama’s fanatical opposition to allowing Illinois hospitals to save the lives of babies with God-given souls inadvertently born alive during abortions. Also leave aside the fact that neither of his parents were Christians. And leave aside his current crop of “spiritual advisers,” which is a collection of Mother Earth worshippers, polytheists and other nonbelievers.

    Now rest from all that “leaving aside.”

    The only evidence for Obama’s Christianity is that he faithfully attended the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years.

    Yes, the guy bellowing “God damn America!” is the one vouching for Obama’s Christianity. That’s like saying you got sober with the help of your A.A. sponsor Lindsay Lohan.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2010/09/01/obama_is_not_a_muslim/page/full/

  29. Joe says:

    Abraham argued and got God to agree that if he could find just 10 good persons, God would spare Sodom.

    But they were all assfuckers, so they got fucked.

  30. happyfeet says:

    yay chicken retrieval win!

  31. JHo says:

    I hadn’t considered that, Joe.

  32. CSM BigBird says:

    I have not and Andy Sullivan in my HOUSE….

  33. happyfeet says:

    cause of Andrew Sullivan – I just noticed this – when I see someone walking a beagle I’m like oh you must be gay… but when you think about it that may not be 100% true… even in Studio City

  34. alppuccino says:

    At Rancho alppuccino, we keep the last a-focker’s corpse (pronounced corp + sss there FROTUS) hanging from a tree at the end of the long lane. Deterrence.

  35. alppuccino says:

    We put a sign on him, of course. We’re not monsters.

  36. alppuccino says:

    Let me be clear. He’s already dead before we hang him.

  37. MarkJ says:

    Ouch. Jeff, you had better get that absinthe analyzed. There IS good in you. I can sense it. Search your feelings…

  38. Seth says:

    While I generally agree that that is probably true Jeff, I find I still have a lot of affection for the human race. If only for what it can be.

  39. Jeff G. says:

    I wasn’t talking about me. I can be an asshole, but I’m loyal and trustworthy.

    Sadly, the truth hasn’t set me free. Because nobody gives a fuck about truth anymore.

  40. cranky-d says:

    Let me add a late to the party, just got back from flying to Minneapolis from San Diego, “Here, frelling here.”

    People basically suck, though with effort you can filter out the few that don’t.

  41. steph says:

    imsgine being the poor mf who created them in his own image — and then they pissed on the new oriental? – Romans 13:8-10
    And now, I go and hide under the nearest rock.

  42. Blake says:

    Jeff G.,

    Well, you couldn’t trust me in your house. I’d want a souvenir of my visit. So, that stash of sporks you’ve been saving for disaster preparedness would probably come up missing.

    I’d be the envy of all my friends, showing off my case of Jeff G. sporks.

  43. ThomasD says:

    It always boils down to a choice between deal with it, or head up a water tower with plenty of ammo.

    Some days that ladder looks mighty tempting.

    Glad to hear Carin chicken has finally come home to roost. Although, I suggest some heavy deprogramming prior to releasing her back into genpop, no telling what kind of ideas she’ll spread having been out in the shit.

  44. Joe says:

    I could think of a few blog sites where you cannot find 10 righteous persons and most of them are assfuckers.

    And not the obvious ones like the Daily Dish.

  45. steph says:

    after all, the persian really tied the room together.

  46. Carin says:

    Jeff, you couldn’t trust me in your house. I’d go straight for the liquor cabinet. And I wouldn’t drink the cheap stuff to be polite.

  47. Carin says:

    Then I’d check the couch cushions for the good pills. You’ve let us in on all of your secrets.

  48. MrBurglarMan says:

    I’d go straight for the liquor cabinet.

    Those are the ones I do trust.

  49. Joe says:

    Glad to hear about your chicken coming back Carin.

    And I agree, don’t insult someone by drinking the cheap stuff, show you care!

  50. serr8d says:

    Friends who are also trained in the special forces have termed my home a ‘safe house’. That’s a good thing I think.

  51. dicentra says:

    Sadly, the truth hasn’t set me free.

    The TRVTH will set you free, but it will make you miserable first. — Teddy Roosevelt or one of them gize

    Because nobody gives a fuck about truth anymore.

    PERHAPS IT’S TIME WE RESTORED A LITTLE HONOR IN THE NATION AND I’M NOT REFERRING TO ANY RECENT EVENTS AT ALL.

  52. TaiChiWawa says:

    I knew all that talk about Thomas Hobbes the other day would come to no good.

  53. SDN says:

    Guys, I got in touch with my inner misanthrope about the time I got to High School… and he’s been absolutely trustworthy.

  54. RyanBacon says:

    truer words were never spoken. we’re street grease, honey, each and everyone of us so don’t kid yourself. everyone is violent and the only question is – can my violence overcome your violence. within each of us lurks the heart of a thief, rapist, murderer. if you were all that was standing between me and my next meal what would you do? the only way to salvation is thru christ.

  55. Joe says:

    Jeff, I am sorry you had to deal with whoever you had to deal with.

  56. Misanthropy is a worthy ideal to strive for. He who expects nothing won’t be deceived.

  57. Greg says:

    Is this a new revelation for you, Jeff? If so, perhaps I’ve overestimated your perspicacity…

  58. Jeff, if I told you once, I’ve told you a million times. Do not invite over for dinner music faculty from Tennessee. Just sayin’…

  59. happyfeet says:

    truth is my favorite

  60. sdferr says:

    C-47 spraying mosquito kill juice is my favorite

  61. JD says:

    Is that Deet?

  62. Ric Locke says:

    But verily I say unto you, love your enemies,
    Be good to them that spitefully use you, and abuse you,
    That you may lull them into a false sense of security
    And whack off their ‘nads with a butcher knife, then leave them out
    Where the sun shines on the evil and the good alike
    But mostly on the anthill.

    (From “The Sermon in the Bar”, the Gospel according to Edward G “Butch” Osander, Jr.)

    Regards,
    Ric

  63. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    Humans, for the most part, are untrustworthy, disloyal, lying, self-interested assfuckers. And that includes the ones you’ve had in your house.

    Your studious avoidance of calling their children “filthy” does not fool me one bit!

  64. serr8d says:

    I pulled out one of my ‘shelved’ books, “Dumbth: The Lost Art of Thinking” by Steve Allen (1998) and found this (Rule # 12 of 101 ways to think better)…

    Do not make an exclusive commitment to either optimism or pessimism. It is absurd to be consistently either an optimist or a pessimist. We may – indeed, we usually will – oscillate between moods at one extreme or the other, in an ongoing process that is often determined by factors having no direct connection with the main questions at issue. A lack of sleep, a missed meal, a throbbing headache, the puzzling loss of some valued object, thousands of such happenstances may incline us toward a gloomy view at any given moment. A sunny day after a storm, the return of spring after a painful winter, hearing good news, a raise in salary, the warmth of a friendly hand, a smile from a stranger – such pleasant experiences can lift our mood and make everything we consider seem more likely to turn out well.

    There is a degree of reasonableness to this. But to adopt a consistently optimistic or pessimistic policy is unreasonable. The wiser course is to do what, fortunately, most of do by nature, which is to constantly assess our prospects and, on the basis of available evidence, however haphazardly perceived, make a loose calculation of the chances of our predicament getting better or worse within a limited amount of time.

    Of course, that was written in 1998. There were still raises in salary then, obviously.

  65. LTC John says:

    I dunno… I have had people literally put themselves between me and other nastier specimens of our species that were trying to kill me. So I can’t get too down on everyone. But I will concede that there sure are plenty of SOBs out there.

  66. Pablo says:

    Because nobody gives a fuck about truth anymore.

    That truth right there, properly considered, ought to be very liberating.

    “The more one gets to know of men, the more one values dogs.”

  67. Since lately I seem to be an assfuckee instead of an assfucker, I’m inclined to agree with you. Another week like the last two and I’m off to the History Channel.

  68. Joe says:

    Serr8d, thanks for reminding me of Steve Allen.

  69. Slartibartfast says:

    I’m torn between the desire to know more, along with the obligatory descent into the depths of human depravity, and the niggling suspicion that it has something to do with me.

    Even though, as far as I can recall, I’ve never been in your house.

    But you’re going to share more, or not, regardless.

    In all seriousness, I’ve had an experience recently where people that I’d known for a couple of decades (well, ONE of them) just exhibited the most baffling behavior. We’d had them as houseguests while their house was being gutted, and because my wife insisted that her daughter (I know this is unreasonable, but still) actually clean up after herself, we are now PNG.

    Hopefully this will all blow over someday; I have a short grudge-memory, but that of my wife and her (possibly former) friend are very, very long.

    So now, this guy (who is one of my best friends in the whole world) and I pretty much have to hang out away from our respective spouses, and constantly wonder aloud when sanity will be restored.

    Shit abounds. I think that’s one of the pithiest expressions of natural law, ever.

  70. Roy Jacobsen says:

    Scrub the language a bit, and Jeff’s take is a remarkably accurate summary of a core tenet of Christianity.

  71. Mikey NTH says:

    And without that there would be no great literature or drama. And no poor literature or drama for that matter.

  72. serr8d says:

    Joe, Steve Allen led a worthy life, mostly. But what he did to dawg on Elvis was borderline cruelty.

  73. DarthRove says:

    Been there, Jeff, and recently. Couple months ago I was bitching about my asshole BIL (3 years out of work, not looking, living with Mom n’ Dad) who altered checks my wife, his sister, gave him for mowing the lawn. The inlaws now hate me because I filed a police report and turned him over to the bank’s fraud department. The bank kindly made me whole and is now coming after him. It is now, in the fam’s considered opinion, my fault that he can’t get a job because of all the baggage I’ve heaped upon him. So I think I can understand something of what you’re going through (whatever that is).

  74. serr8d says:

    The care of the wise must guard against the snare of the wicked. Great judgment is needed to test that of another. It is more important to know the characteristics and properties of persons than those of vegetables and minerals. It is indeed one of the shrewdest things in life. You can tell metals by their ring and men by their voice. Words are proof of integrity, deeds still more. Here one requires extraordinary care, deep observation, subtle discernment, and judicious decision. *

  75. Jeff G. says:

    Let’s put it this way: even the most rule-fetishing cop will lie lie lie if it comes down to him or you. I’m tired of pretending every single one of these guys is a hero who’d run into a burning building to save your cat. Some are just fat dicks who hand out speeding tickets or pull you over for having a dim tail light, then get drunk and use their badges to save themselves from a well-deserved ass kicking.

  76. happyfeet says:

    oh but they’re “first responders” don’tcha know … that’s right hand of God shit

  77. Pablo says:

    Oh God, yes. 80% of cops give the rest of them a bad name.

  78. Jeff G. says:

    The worst part is, how can you sell your fucking house in this economy?

    Answer: you can’t. I see an arrest in my near future.

  79. Jeff G. says:

    I need to relax. I just bought the final season of Lost. I think I’ll watch that today.

  80. jwest says:

    I realize you may have been upset, but to lump all assfuckers together as you did was inexcusable.

    By equating upstanding, All-American, heterosexual, man-on-woman assfucking with the type of assfucking that occurs between men and boys in Afghanistan or in the offices of the “Atlantic” is just plain wrong.

  81. serr8d says:

    Oh, it’s a police thing. I posted something on that a while back; to save you the clicking, I’ll redo some of it…

    Salient points: How to act around the police.

    1. Always be calm and cool. Don’t ever talk back. Being hostile with police is stupid and dangerous. Control your words, the tone of your voice, your demeanor. Check your ego at the door.

    2. You always have the right to remain silent. Keep your mouth shut.

    3. You have the right to refuse searches. Magic words: “I don’t consent to searches”. Assert your rights calmly.

    4. Don’t get tricked: the police can legally lie to you. Refusal to submit to search is not admission to any guilt. Best to never consent to a search.

    5. Determine if you’re free to go. Magic words: “Officer, are you detaining me, or am I free to go?”

    6. Don’t expose yourself. Police need reasonable suspicion; but reasonable suspicion is an easy threshold to meet if you are cocky and careless. If you wonder if the police have reasonable suspicion, ask if you’re free to go.

    7. Don’t run. Ever.

    8. Never touch a cop. Ever. Magic words: “I’m going to remain silent. I’d like to see a lawyer.” Then shut your mouth. You can’t talk your way out of a police interrogation without a lawyer.

    9. Report police misconduct: be a good witness. Never ask for an officer’s badge number; that’s throwing napalm on a fire. Remember the details, the words spoken. Gather witnesses if any. If you were beaten, have a photo taken as soon as possible.

    10. You don’t have to let police in your home. Unless there’s a serious emergency, they can’t come in unless you invite them in. Don’t. Talk to them outside your home. Magic words: “I can’t let you in without a warrant.” You don’t even have to answer the door unless you have an emergency.

    Provided as a public service. Now, go keep your nose clean.

  82. DarthRove says:

    I need to relax. I just bought the final season of Lost. I think I’ll watch that today.

    Oh, no. That will NOT help you relax. Unless you’re just planning pause the DVD on the first Evangeline Lilly shot and leave it for 2 hours.

    Seriously, I watched that whole thing to end up going, “What the FUCK! just happened???”

  83. Silver Whistle says:

    Some are just fat dicks who hand out speeding tickets or pull you over for having a dim tail light, then get drunk and use their badges to save themselves from a well-deserved ass kicking.

    On behalf of fat dicks everywhere, I’d like to say …… where can I get a badge?

  84. Slartibartfast says:

    6. Don’t expose yourself.

    I think that’s a rule to live by, outside of the bedroom.

  85. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh. Never mind.

  86. Wait, I thought the economy was going gangbusters?

  87. Jeff G. says:

    None of that applies, Serr8d. This is about the lives-in-your-neighborhood, drinks off-duty, is upset you beat him at dominos-type trooper who issues veiled threats of arrest, talks shit about you to the neighbors, then lies lies lies about it, and uses his badge as a shield against repercussion.

    As for witnesses, it turns out that people don’t like to get involved when it means having to report a cop who lives a few houses down from them — and will even lie lie lie about what happened, leaving you hanging if you dare speak up.

    That some of these witnesses claim they are “martial artists” leads me to believe that all their talk about honor and such in the martial arts is bullshit — and that they are “martial artists” because they are chubby and not much good at softball, basketball, tennis, or golf.

    Avoiding confrontation? Yeah. That they learned. The dishonorable lying unprincipled cowardly fat fat fat fucks.

  88. geoffb says:

    Some humans when in your home come to resemble other guests, cockroaches and bedbugs. All pests tend to increase in activity and number when the human variety get power.

  89. Jeff G. says:

    I hate.

  90. serr8d says:

    Most cops are not ‘bad guys’, but all are inherently suspicious sorts who tend to socialize amongst themselves. If you’ve a cop neighbor, a pleasant ‘Hi!’ should be the extent of it. Believe me, he’s on permanent ‘Neighborhood Watch’, and like a very large dog, needs to be given a wide berth.

    That said…

  91. geoffb says:

    Nevermind, should have refreshed first.

  92. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Can I get a “fuck ya” for Brother, Goldstein. Preach on.

    I’m feeling you in regards to the po po. I have to restrain myself of editorial comments when in the car with the wife and family and seeing johhny law breaking, well, a law inhis vehicle. Obviously not all cops are dicks, but like Pablo so astutely said, the 80% are really fucking the other 20% in terms of PR. On the macro level, my take is I hate humanity, but there are quite a few people that I really do love.

  93. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh. That’s kind of fucked, Jeff.

    I think it’s best to just expect the worst possible behavior from people, so as not to be disappointed quite so often.

    Still: you’ll get disappointed a lot. Because sometimes people don’t even surpass your lowest expectations, and the people who you are sure know better are the ones who are going to disappoint you the most often.

  94. Mike F. says:

    An optimist when shafted by his best friend says, “et tu, Brute?”. A realist says, “Ah, yes, it figures.”

  95. Slartibartfast says:

    Well, maybe not so much “expect” as “be braced for”.

    Still, people will always surprise you. Sometimes pleasantly.

  96. Jeff G. says:

    I really don’t need you defending the idea of cops, serr8d. And I particularly don’t like the suggestion that if I have a beef with a certain dick with a badge, I should call a hippie next time I’m in trouble.

    I don’t let anyone bully me. Having a badge just means you’ve got a government job. It doesn’t mean I need to give you a wide berth, or walk on eggshells around you when I paid the same for my house as you did.

  97. Jeff G. says:

    And now I’m sick of people in a thread about how I’m sick of people.

    I think it best if I just get the fuck out of here.

  98. serr8d says:

    Oh.

    Well, carry on, then. I’ve offered only what’s considered common knowledge amongst the badged and the bads alike.

  99. Jeff G. says:

    Common knowledge? Keep your head down and don’t make waves, because cops are more equal than you? And if you don’t like it, call a hippie next time you’re in trouble, because you’ll get what you deserve for not bowing down to a fat ticket writer with a tin star?

    Fuck that. Not in my world.

  100. Jeff G. says:

    And fuck the fat neighbors who go along rather than risk rocking the boat. Because after all, it ain’t them who’s getting the business. And besides, they might not know any hippies.

    Better safe, etc.

  101. Jeff G. says:

    YOU WILL TAKE IT! OR IT’S HIPPIES FOR YOU, SWEETHEART!

  102. Pablo says:

    I really don’t need you defending the idea of cops, serr8d. And I particularly don’t like the suggestion that if I have a beef with a certain dick with a badge, I should call a hippie next time in trouble.

    “Be armed” is better advice. When seconds count, even the very best cop is only minutes away.

  103. serr8d says:

    Here’s a nice CATO video that might help, source for the “10 Points” above.

  104. Jeff G. says:

    Not only have I gotten armed; I’ve gotten my vision fixed. I prefer taking care of myself. Handing that responsibility exclusively over to state employees who grow fat on chips and steak subs and potato salad and Heinekin, and who couldn’t run a mile were they strapped to a jet pack, doesn’t seem the best idea.

    But hey. Give them a wide berth and keep your heads down. It’s their world. You’re just a squirrel looking for a nut.

  105. Jeff G. says:

    OUTLAW!

  106. Jeff G. says:

    My answer is to play “fat bottomed girls” on an endless loop from my porch.

  107. Wow. I sold a house at a loss about six years ago because of almost exactly the same situation. Only this cop was on “stress retirement” read “alcoholic wife-beater”. The lying? Epic. Intimidation? Let’s just say I got a friendly visit from Child Services at work. Unofficially, you know, just looking in to things.

    I figured I’d move and let the neighbors who never saw anything deal with him until he either beat his wife to death or ate his gun. Last time my wife spoke to our next-door neighbors (“good friends” who “could never understand the tension”), the houses on either side of him were empty, the people who bought my house were in default and the guy’s tough, blue collar, pickup drivin, hoops-shootin’, Pop Warner coachin’, Keystone drinkin’, obese volunteer fireman buddy had had a heart attack during a screaming match with the guy in the middle of the cul-de-sac because he “suspected” the guy was sleeping with his wife. I also suspected it, but mainly because our deck overlooked his hot tub and when the wife worked nights we had to keep our kids inside or else they’d witness some really nasty whale porn.

    This is also the reason I post semi-anonymously since he started emailing my blog posts to other people in the neighborhood.

    Nice to get that off my chest. And nice to know that I wasn’t alone in the thinking everyone is an asshole dept.

  108. sdferr says:

    This is starting to look like it maps to the problems in Xenophon’s Heiro.

  109. serr8d says:

    There’s no way to have an equal close-proximity relationship with a cop, Jeff, whether or not (s)he’s on or off duty. Unless you are also a cop, or are his wife or brother or immediate family. It’s a different worldview for them; trust me on this.

  110. Pablo says:

    My opinion of cops is largely based on having been one, therefore having been very familiar with them. Military Police, sure but cops nonetheless. Lots of them, by no means all, but lots of them wanted to be cops because they wanted the badge and the gun. Some of those were outright sadists, others more common bullies. While they might be great to have around if your getting mugged, you don’t want to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when they feel like rolling somebody. Because they can, and the blue wall protects to the end.

    A prime example was this one clown I worked under, a pudgy Southern Baptist E-4 sort, who loved loved loved playing the badass. One day the call comes out that we’ve got a hostage situation in a hangar, and we happened to be mighty close putting Pudgy in the initial on scene commander role. His response was to start blubbering about how he’s a got a wife and kids that need him, and he can’t just go charging up there.

    Needless to say, we soon found out that they’d left a crucial detail out of the call, which was that it was an exercise and not an actual event.

  111. RyanBacon says:

    [removed because I suspect, after reading the first sentence, that it contains spoilers, and I just dropped $60 on the Blu-Ray set]

  112. Jeff G. says:

    There’s no way to have an equal close-proximity relationship with a cop, Jeff, whether or not (s)he’s on or off duty.

    I’m not striving for equal. It’s clear I’m a far better man.

    I don’t settle.

  113. RyanBacon says:

    Hey okay jeez sorry.

  114. Jeff G. says:

    Don’t sweat it.

  115. Silver Whistle says:

    There’s no way to have an equal close-proximity relationship with a cop, Jeff, whether or not (s)he’s on or off duty.

    I used to have sex with one. She was pretty cool.

  116. And I gotta say it, I spent a shitload on that house, lost a shitload too. Then had to buy this house at the top of the market, so I automatically lost a shitload on this one. I did make sure that I didn’t move into the “Police and Firefighter” neighborhood this time. It was a selling point for my last neighborhood. Riiiight.

    And I have four sons, so I’m intimately acquainted with almost every policeman in my little town, and I can tell you that there are only three I would trust in court.

  117. Ric Locke says:

    I feel for you, Jeff, not least because one of the largest pushes that precipitated me from a relatively comfortable existence to my present state was just such an incident.

    However, it isn’t possible for me to have much in the way of strong feelings about it, because I agree with Eric at Classical Values that the POV of many of the folks I consider allies is seriously skewed. Serr8d, above, is an example — he’s a good guy and we’re largely on the same side, but the attitude he expresses in his comment is frustrating to the point of tooth-grinding and high blood pressure.

    Not everybody is a goon, but proto-goons are not in short supply, and if you set up a goon squad they will be irresistably attracted to it. What’s more, the existence of the goon squad is equally irresistably attractive to people with an agenda, so they will move Heaven and Earth to get its services. The goons don’t care; the subject they are intended to address is irrelevant; they are looking for opportunities to express their goonish qualities, and since that is their only motivation they are easily able to crowd out those who do care what they are “enforcing”.

    The original “hippies” were complaining about the same thing. Of course that complaint was immediately co-opted by leftoids as a means of gaining control of the goon squads, but that doesn’t make the complaint invalid, then or now.

    Regards,
    Ric

  118. Jeff G. says:

    Yeah, I live in “Copland.”

    I’ll take the hippies next time.

  119. geoffb says:

    Sorry about your troubles. Assholes are bad. Those that do not fear any consequences for their actions, whether due to having power or just crafty insanity are the worst. No advice here, just sympathy.

  120. Lost My Cookies says:

    Screw the hippies. I’m moving to homowood. They keep their houses nice, your wife always has someone to talk to, they throw great parties and don’t by cheap booze.

  121. Jeff G. says:

    Yeah. But I like to lift weights in my driveway. People might get the wrong idea.

  122. Slartibartfast says:

    LMC makes a compelling case.

    Some people in my neighborhood got concerned when we had a pair of homes purchased by gay couples, and I had a similar response. It was actually more like: so, they’re unlikely to have cars parked in their yard on blocks, or paint their houses an odd color. They’ll likely also do a bangup job redecorating, and sell their houses at a tidy profit. What’s not to like?

  123. SarahW says:

    Here’s what – CCTV in your yard, and a friendly sign at the entrance warning that the house is surveilled with video AND AUDIO if the law in your state doesn’t find one-party permission for recording sufficient.

    PS. Carin, fried chicken is slow chicken.

  124. sdferr says:

    Time was the trick was to figure out where homowood was going to be before it became homowood. Many a tidy profit was made thereby.

  125. hmmm. Come to think of it, I did start getting those party invites after mowing the lawn in the jockstrap, cape and cowboy hat.

    Maybe there’s some kind of code I don’t know about?

  126. I’ve got it. Rollerblades. Gays hate the Rollerblades. When you’re finished lifting Rollerblade around.

  127. happyfeet says:

    SarahW hi how are you? It has been many many moons I am glad to see you.

  128. bh says:

    Sounds like a messed up situation, Jeff. Sucks.

    Playing “Fat Bottomed Girls” on a continuous loop sounds like an excellent idea.

  129. Joe says:

    I am sorry you are going through that Jeff. There is something very disturbing to be abused by people abusing you from a position of authority. It is the most pussy form of abuse. What is frustrating is you need to be independently wealthy to protect yourself from crap like this. This petty form of bullying are small enough $ wise not to be worth pursuing as a civil case (unless you can afford to drop $50,000 to $100,000 funding it on your own), and the department and government will do nothing if you complain.

    But it can be far worse. Radley Balko may be overtly critical of the police in general and too far to the left for my libertarian tastes, but anyone who can piss off a certain prosecutor blogger on a regular basis cannot be too bad. Here are two examples this week from The Agitator. Man falls, wife calls paramedics, cops show up and taze the victim 3 times, despite wife warning he has a heart condition. Man in Seattle whittling in public with a legal 3″ knife (he was apparently a homeless guy who has been selling his carvings in the public market for years) is shot five times and dies for failing to obey police orders (death for failure to respect shooter’s authori-tay).

  130. Joe says:

    Too bad you do not have the money to turn your back on Copland and let the wrath of God decend (in the form of SWAT teams of Constitutional and civil liberty lawyers making their lives a living hell). Because I see why you describe them all as assfuckers. And from what you said, it does not sound like you have 10 righteous people in your neighborhood.

  131. JHo says:

    Yeah, I live in “Copland.”

    Three w/i a three-quarter mile radius of my place…which is otherwise secluded, quiet, w/i a half mile of a very large body of water, and is lit only by nature after sundown. Also has about a 10% residence to 90% open land ratio.

    So it’s nice. And these three give me the freekin creeps.

    The other day, out on the two-lane state road, speed limit 55, traffic moving at ten over as a matter of course, no shoulder and immediate 6′ water-filled ditches on both sides, a LEO rockets out from behind an oncoming car, barrels directly down the center line at 75 with lights on, and puts me nearly in the water.

    Fucking reckless prick — red lights make traffic disappear, don’t you know, him in 4,000 lbs of four-door with a brushbar the size of a Hummer and me in a 3,000 lb sport coupe with a nose 18″ off the pavement.

    So, not easy to put it in perspective, but from what I’ve seen in life, I don’t trust em an inch. Something changed about 25 years ago; really changed.

    Jeff’s right: As servants they owe society the protect and serve part yet we do what serr8d says in order to coexist with these hired underlings.

  132. Joe says:

    25 year ago. Hmmm. I blame it in part on NYPD Blue (granted more like 17 years ago, but whatev). Fucking Steven Boscho and David Chase made being a cop thug cool. Now I like Dennis Franz, but many of these cops are acting like Franz’s character when he was drunk all the time and screwing hookers for free during the day (when he wasn’t tuning up a suspect in lock up). And they have the morals of David Caruso, who has even less morals, in real life and as a character, than Chase’s other creation, Tony Soprano.

    Jesus, even Rockford was friends with the cops (although there was tension even back then). What gives?

  133. agile_dog says:

    Well, Jeff, I think you have two choices. You can take Paul Newman’s route in “Absence of Malice” (I think that was the title), and make him look corrupt to those that have the power to act on him, or you can wait until he is all alone, and give him the beating he deserves – just have an alibi handy.

  134. Rusty says:

    “Humans, for the most part, are untrustworthy, disloyal, lying, self-interested assfuckers. And that includes the ones you’ve had in your house.

    Don’t trust a one of them.”

    We’re a bad lot alright.

    But when you consider the alternative might have been monkeys……………….well. It could be a whole lot worse.

  135. Joe says:

    Rusty, Jungle Book’s chapter Kaa’s Hunting, with that abandoned temple with the monkeys holding Mowgli hostage seems more and more like symbolism for Congress every time I read it.

  136. LBascom says:

    That’s just shitty Jeff.

    I learned cops lie while still in High school. It was over a minor traffic ticket, I thought I could talk my way out of it, and the miserable Cocker Spainial preemptively gave a lying answer to my strategically key question. I was so dumbfounded, the lawyer for the next case had to shoulder me out of the way, jaw still dragging on the ground.

    The other relevant part was: at the bank I went to(after school gas station job, $400-500 there tops)immediately after, the teller asked how my day was, so I told her about the lying cop that’s a big lying liar, and she told me that cop is her husband. In a decidedly un-bankteller kind of way.

    Small towns, gotta lov’em.

    Well, the upshot was, I withdrew all my money with a general proclamation about the other banks in town, learned some powerful lessons, and was highly alert while driving around for awhile. Happily it ended there, and I had no more problem. I wish for the same with you, good luck.

  137. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Yeah, I live in “Copland.”

    It could be worse. You could live in Cleveland.

  138. LBascom says:

    Oh, and the part about the lawyer in #138…pure artistic licence.

    I liked Sarah W’s comment at #124. Good advice for everyone.

    Oh, and RyanLiver* of #54(and #112), “the only way to salvation is thru christ.”, are you a poser?

    *Ryan was told by JD that Bacon was too good for him after he left a terse comment about Muslims suck and must be killed, whereupon I re-Christened him(if you’ll pardon the expression).

  139. Danger says:

    Nice shootin Lee!

  140. Joe says:

    LBascom, I have seen similar things myself. My wife could have written that post of yours about a cop in the next town over. Except instead of pulling our money out of the bank, we just never shop there. Screw them. They are economically depressed and need the business, but there are alternate places to go.

  141. Two incidents, pulled over by the Texas DPS for speeding, cops decided I had stolen the car and threw me onto the trunk and roughly handcuffed me, before deciding that I HADN’T stolen my on car and released me, no apology and a nice fat ticket.

    Second (well actually a series of incidents), after I moved down to the Rio Grande Valley area of south Texas, I’m wearing my hair long and driving an older work van (because, you know, I WORKED), and had to pass thru some rather rough neighborhoods, I got stopped by the local PD (all Mexican officers), searched, my van searched, the K-9 unit called on me to sniff my van, and hassled on a regular basis before I decided that the hair, which my GF at the time liked, had to go, and I needed to find an alternate route to the jobsite…

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