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"Worse Than Carter"

R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., American Spectator:

It is becoming apparent for all to see, that a man who made his name as a community organizer does not have the skills to be President of these United States. Maybe he could develop the requisite skills as a governor. Possibly, he could develop such skills were he to sit in the Senate for a couple of terms. Yet there are delicate sensitivities, the ability to listen, to stick by your guns, occasionally to remain reticent. These are the fundamentals of a leader, and President Barack Obama has demonstrated that he lacks all of them, most notably reticence. I now think it is clear even to Official Washington that President Obama is the worst president of modern times. President Jimmy Carter is redeemed.

[…]

[President Obama] cannot resist showing the world how smart he is, but at what cost? Every Democrat battling a tight race will be called to answer questions about the mosque. It will become an issue even in remote places such as Nevada. There the Senate leader, Harry Reid, fighting for his seat against a Tea Partyer, Sharron Angle, has come out against the President. He announced that it is not a question of right but a question of prudence. He says the mosque should be built elsewhere. How many other Democrats will join him? This could develop into a major rebellion against President Obama’s leadership. It could be the beginning of the end of his presidency.

President Obama represents the leadership of a sterile elite. His weird lectures play at the University of Chicago or in the communities he has organized in Chicago, but not among the mainstream of the American electorate. He has brought it together and it is against this idiocy. As I said in this space two weeks ago, he represents the leadership of the Ruling Class. It is not the leadership of the consensus of the American people. Only the most extreme voices in this debate are speaking intolerantly about Islam and its right to build a mosque. Most of the American people are siding with the dread Sarah Palin who was quick to say, “Mr. President, should they or should they not build a mosque steps away from where the radicals killed 3,000 people? Please tell us your position. We all know that they have a right to do it, but should they? And no, this isn’t above your pay grade.”

Yet it is. It is above the pay grade of a community organizer. That is what our president is. Increasingly, it is clear that the Democrats brought down on the country a community organizer as president. Maybe in the future they will consider experience a qualification for the presidency. Possibly the age of charisma is behind us. Possibly Mr. Obama even lacks that dubious quality.

I hate to do it, but allow me to offer a defense of the Democrats here: they won.

In the short term, their electoral chances might suffer as a result both of Obama’s presidency and the various overreaches of the Democrat-controlled Congress; but if the pendulum swingback doesn’t include a number of repeals and reversals of many of the policies social Democrats have foisted upon us — or if “conservative” judicial rulings continue to give undue weight to stare decisis rather than providing a kind of “activism” against established (but demonstrably bad) law — then seating an egotistical Organizer in Chief, one who seems not to worry much about how the rabble rank him, will have been a net win for liberal fascism as a long-term plan.

It isn’t enough to win back power. Conservatives and classical liberals need to do with that power what needs doing. Our very liberties are at stake — and it will no longer do to attribute to our ideological opponents the benefit of the doubt that they are good men with whom we merely disagree. They aren’t: they are the architects of our country’s demise who hope to rebuild in its stead a new society wherein they take their rightful place as our ruling betters.

Screw that, and screw them.

Spit.

301 Replies to “"Worse Than Carter"”

  1. Jeff G. says:

    And yes, my Alexa rankings have fallen even more. Still, it seems that OUTLAWISM is beginning to gain wider purchase on the right, so I’m content to be buried in an unmarked grave, so long as my son doesn’t grow up in a country that treats him as a slave to the state.

  2. sdferr says:

    How to learn them – the statists – to become useful to themselves? By pounding them to dust, so’s they get the idea how un-useful to themselves they have been lo these many years. They’re in an awful need of feedback tied tightly to their behavior. That pounding won’t be effective in every case of course, but surely in enough to prove to have been worth the effort.

  3. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I now think it is clear even to Official Washington that President Obama is the worst president of modern times. President Jimmy Carter is redeemed.

    I’ve been annoying people (mostly in-laws already annoyed with me) for almost two years now saying that, unless Carter happens to be the guest of honor at the occassion, at a future state funeral, Jimmuh is going to lean over to Barak Obama, look him straight in the eye, and say, “putz.”

  4. Squid says:

    When your son buys his first home, it will be a second mortgage. His first mortgage is held by the Chinese, and he never had a choice about signing it.

    Yours may be the voice in the wilderness, Jeff, but the message is no less important than it ever was. We owe it to our children to undo the damage done to them by the ruling class. Even if we can’t undo it completely, we need to reverse the trend and at least start filling in the hole that our moral superiors have dug them in to.

    And Jimmy Carter will never be redeemed. That’s just crazy talk.

  5. Ric Locke says:

    …I’m content to be buried in an unmarked grave…

    “There is no limit to what you can accomplish if you don’t insist on getting credit for it.”

    Regards,
    Ric

  6. Adriane says:

    Old age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill; but reality is all that is needed to overcome youth and hubris.

  7. happyfeet says:

    remember that the Team R what might could be regaining power is the same fag-ass one what didn’t see fit to change congressional leadership after they got handed their ass in an almost unprecedented rout…. our little country has declined far far past anything what cowardly Boehnerfag Rs can possibly be expected to do to help

  8. Jeff G. says:

    Watching Pajamas Media move around to the OUTLAW message has been particularly galling. It just doesn’t sound right coming from the mouths of button-up country clubbers, if you ask me.

  9. sdferr says:

    I’d change “might could” to will mostly hf, as being closer to the probability. How to undo that?

    Back to my current hobby horse: we rework our criteria of choice in candidates, learning ourselves to not sit passively accepting their choice of themselves, choosing instead to pick our own damn candidates, with one of the first criteria being that the person must not want the job and we must want to force it on them. Other, follow-on criteria await proper development.

  10. Carin says:

    Jeff, stop looking at that stupid score. Just keep up with stuff like this:

    It isn’t enough to win back power. Conservatives and classical liberals need to do with that power what needs doing. Our very liberties are at stake — and it will no longer do to attribute to our ideological opponents the benefit of the doubt that they are good men with whom we merely disagree. They aren’t: they are the architects of our country’s demise who hope to rebuild in its stead a new society wherein they take their rightful place as our ruling betters.

    Yes, and yes.

    Also Tyrrell knocks it out of the park with this:
    . Increasingly, it is clear that the Democrats brought down on the country a community organizer as president. Maybe in the future they will consider experience a qualification for the presidency. Possibly the age of charisma is behind us. Possibly Mr. Obama even lacks that dubious quality.

    The far-left has flown on bullshit ideology for years. Now, voters are getting a glimpse of how horribly wrong their ideas are. Let’s hope people are paying attention. It’s “our” job to constantly remind them. Inform them.

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Here’s the extent to which Carter has been redeemed:

    The 39th president has moved up into the 42nd spot in the overall rankings. The 44th president currently occuppies the 43rd spot previously occuppied by the 39th; and if were lucky, he’ll stop there instead of replacing the 15th president as the overall worst president ever.

  12. scooter says:

    Jimmuh is going to lean over to Barak Obama, look him straight in the eye, and say, “putz.”

    I rather imagine Carter leaning over and saying “Thanks, man.”

  13. AJB says:

    Someone explain to me that “ruling betters” meme.

    Are they the elitist bureaucrats who infringe upon Our Freedom by banning child labor in coal mines?

  14. Carin says:

    AJB, if you can’t keep up with the reading required to debate current events like and educated person, perhaps you should sit out and watch a bit?

  15. Jeff G. says:

    If you could have things explained to you, AJB, you wouldn’t be an Obama supporter.

    Q.E.D.

  16. Joe says:

    I do not expect much from Republican politicans. If they could manage to deal with the deficit, that would be a start. But Jeff is right, merely winning back power is not enough. Canada is all ready in the socialistic shitter. The U.S. is not far behind.

  17. bh says:

    Don’t forget the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, idiot. For the relevancy and timeliness and stuff.

  18. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I rather imagine Carter leaning over and saying “Thanks, man.”

    One would think. But the sad fact is that James Earl Carter has even less humility and self awareness than Barack Hussein Obama.

  19. sdferr says:

    The powers that be are going to be forcing child-laborers to go to work at tearing the plastic packaging off delivered computer gizmos any day now. And they said salt-mines were awful.

  20. geoffb says:

    I’m content to be buried in an unmarked grave, so long as my son doesn’t grow up in a country that treats him as a slave to the state.

    Reminds me of why I read you and liked Delenn. Unstoppable.

  21. bh says:

    Btw, it does still bug me when the U of C takes such unthinking abuse. Obama lectured there. That’s it. He didn’t transform its academic culture. Not even a little.

  22. sdferr says:

    It isn’t clear he even got his toes wet bh.

  23. bh says:

    The more you speak of this nasty Alexa person, Jeff, the less I like the Russian bitch.

  24. sdferr says:

    But then he does walk on water, so…

  25. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “….Are they the elitist bureaucrats who infringe upon Our Freedom by banning child labor in coal mines?”

    – No. They’re the head-up-their-feckless=asses who think it’s the “kewlies” to let the thugs of a cult we’re at war with take a dump where we eat you jackwagon.

  26. cranky-d says:

    Most of them will turn OUTLAW! and they’ll act like it was their idea. That’s how it is when you preach to the remnant; the ideas you put in their heads percolate, and when they come out, the people think they thought of it themselves.

  27. bh says:

    Other things that Obama wasn’t able to ruin by his presence: Chicago style hot dogs, the Korean areas BBQ joints, the ’85 Bears and Buddy Guy.

  28. motionview says:

    AJB banning child labor in coal mines?

    Democrats – boldly leading into the 20th century

  29. Frontman says:

    Is AJB really Grampa Simpson? Wearing onions on your belt is no longer the style, you know.

  30. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – All you’re likely to start hearing from the putz’s who were swayed into voting for him, the so-called “moderate” Dems, is “Well I didn’t really vote for him, I voted against the McCain/}Palin ticket.”

    – That will be the universal get out of jail excuse, instead of the truth of why they actually did it, “I voted for him because he promised a lot of free stuff.”

  31. ak4mc says:

    I’m starting a betting pool on when Bill Clinton does resume being the first black President.

    I think the smart money has been on November 3, 2010, but lately there’s been a run on Labor Day.

  32. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – That is the people who will even admit they voted for him. After another two years of this insanity a Russmusen poll will show that McCain won by a 25% margin.

  33. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – You know, like the 4 million hippies that were at Woodstock.

  34. irongrampa says:

    I endured the Carter presidency–until now, there’s never been a remotely serious challenger for worst president. Carter, after all, set a very high bar.

  35. george smiley says:

    Speaking of which from that corner link, I saw that Amanda Marcotte is ‘spilling her guts out at Slate’ lying about Sharon Angle, I don’t know what “cunning plan” that’s a part of

  36. mcgruder says:

    AJB,
    Your point was well made.
    In 2005, when the GOP held the Oval Office, child labor was rampant in coal mines.
    The next meme should be a pastiche of the following: Night-riders (the KKK) rampaging and lynching across the Deep South, women dying from back-alley abortions and the role of the US in pressing forward on the League of Nations idea.

  37. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – “….And by the way. We also expect you infidels to paypay for it, you American fools, Peace be onto him…”

  38. ThomasD says:

    In my mind football is half of a team sport. The offensive squad is a team, and everyone on offense needs to be focused on working within the team. There is but one goal, and everyone is subordinate to that goal. Fail to work within the team and the chances of achieving that goal wither.

    Defense is something else entirely. Defense is all about being disruptive. Sure they form a squad, but in many ways it is a squad of decidedly non-team players. They don’t have to concern themselves with whatever everyone else is doing, they just need to focus on blowing up whatever it is the other team is trying to achieve. One lone defender in the backfield can negate the entire efforts of eleven other people.

    That is a beautiful thing. It allows non-team players to not only play a team sport, but play a deciding role in a team sport. Because nobody wins without solid defense.

    (And if you think this is a Team R or Team D thing you’d be wrong.)

  39. dicentra says:

    How to learn them – the statists – to become useful to themselves? By pounding them to dust, so’s they get the idea how un-useful to themselves they have been lo these many years. They’re in an awful need of feedback tied tightly to their behavior. That pounding won’t be effective in every case of course, but surely in enough to prove to have been worth the effort.

    I’m afraid that we’re not the first freedom-loving people who have had to beat back statists, and you can’t merely vote them out of office to prevent them from doing terrible damage.

    Those who have ears, let them hear. They’re worse than Wack-a-Mole.

  40. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It isn’t enough to win back power. Conservatives and classical liberals need to do with that power what needs doing.

    If the GOP doesn’t spell out what it is that they’re going to do about what needs doing, then when it comes to this:

    I do not expect much from Republican politicans. If they could manage to deal with the deficit, that would be a start.

    What they end up doing (probably some combo of tax hikes now for future cuts in the rate of spending growth) is going to be more beneficial to Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign than it is to any kind of conservative or classical liberal vision of what the country should be.

  41. dicentra says:

    In other news, we’ve got a splendid gully-washer going on in SLC right now.

    Lovely stuff.

  42. DarthRove says:

    Never mind with AJB, he’s still campaigning against the Whigs.

  43. bh says:

    I truly wish I didn’t think you were correct here, Ernst.

    Right now, when they could be creating a mandate with a strong wind at their back, they’re studiously ignoring the most serious proposals for spending cuts.

  44. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Schreiber’s in html formatting purgatory again. “If the GOP … when it comes to this:” is me Juxtaposing Jeff w/ Joe’s comment 16.

    And irongrampa, in fairness to Carter, half the country didn’t take up arms and try to leave, like it did under Buchanan; and like it might again*, although with considerably more justification this time.

    *Yeah, that’s hyperbole. But William Yelverton, polynymic polymath extraordinaire just creamed himself, reading that wingnut seditious talk. You know he did.

  45. dicentra says:

    It isn’t enough to win back power. Conservatives and classical liberals need to do with that power what needs doing.

    It will be too little, too late. The shenanigans of the last 80 years with the world financial system, the Fed, and entitlement spending are about to come to fruition. We will be doing the Weimar Wheelbarrow Shuffle in the near future, and only locals with guns will be able to keep the peace.

    Even the Zombie Founders won’t be able to fix the mess from the halls of Congress when it all goes down. We’ll have to rebuild community by community, state by state. We might not end up with a whole country again. That Russian guy who predicted our breakup might have been half right.

  46. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Ah, but there’s 5 other guys on the field who can fuck up both sides at will. (If you think this is a Leftist judges legislating from the bench thing you’d be spot on.)

  47. Pablo says:

    Watching Pajamas Media move around to the OUTLAW message has been particularly galling. It just doesn’t sound right coming from the mouths of button-up country clubbers, if you ask me.

    Better late than never. Here’s to many, many more seeing the light.

  48. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Can you blame them bh? If they, you know, took and stand for something and other such shit, they might only win 40 or 50 seats, when they can keep their mouths shut and win 45 or 55 seats sitting on their thumbs.

    Or they might win 70 or 80 with a mandate going forward. But that’s taking a risk. Better to keep their collective thumb up their ass. It’s more pragmatic.

  49. Matty O says:

    Amen Brother. I pray daily for wise leadership to be empowered in this country to repel the lawless ones who rule over us now.

  50. Ernst Schreiber says:

    That Russian guy who predicted our breakup might have been half right.

    You know, it purely scares the hell out me when I see other people thinking along the same lines as me. I need to get me acquainted with some Hutterites.

  51. sdferr says:

    Are people beginning to catch on? Even when I think I see it, I’m not at all sure I see it. In fact, I’d say not yet, and not by a long shot.

  52. doubled says:

    from AJB (of course) : “Someone explain to me that “ruling betters” meme.

    Are they the elitist bureaucrats who infringe upon Our Freedom by banning child labor in coal mines?”

    No , more like coming up with the ‘correct’ amount of salt intake, without taking into account anything pertinent like age of said person , or their health, and then putting one number on it as if it will ‘fit’ all people. Or mandating that their be a like number of college sports teams for both men and women, leading to the elimination of some men’s sports to make it ‘fair’. Or telling car manufacturers what MPG they HAVE to meet to be compliant with nanny-state desires. Or if the legislature won’t outlaw carbon emmissions the EPA will do it themselves out of the goodness of their hearts, just for us. This is the type of nanny-state statist bullcrap that some of us hate from our ‘betters’.

    Your straw man of century old legislation was indeed humorous though , thanks for that.

  53. happyfeet says:

    I don’t see it at all. Obama and his pet Coast Guard fag are raping the gulf and destroying jobs like veteran job-killing gulf-rapers and the pussy Boehnerfags don’t have dick to say about it.

    It’s pathetic.

  54. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – It’s just fucking amazing watching HuffPo change ledes to hit whore their anti-conservative bias pieces for their hive following.

    – This morning they reacted to one of Palin’s latest twitters, (they go absolutely batshit crazy every time she does her nails), with the headline “Palin uses N-word in Dr. Laura support twitter.”

    – 5 minutes later they change uses to “drops”.

    – If you read the article it turns out she didn’t, several of the HuffPo commentators that reacted to her did. They just can’t help themselves.

    – BTW, HuffPo is apparently getting a lead on sidling toward the exits, trying to appear to shed the rep of total Lefturd bias. Headlines and articles are more and more going openly anti-Obama.

    – Like rats leaving a drowning rat.

  55. happyfeet says:

    yeah but you know Sarah Palin was thinking it

  56. happyfeet says:

    i kid

  57. Joe says:

    Well if Obama is going to back this POS, here is a proposed art work for the Cordoba House museum: I love the classics!.

  58. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I’d love her even if she wasn’t a hell-fire politician and decent good person, just for the reason she makes Lefturds heads explode by simply smiling into the camera.

    – If she didn’t exist we’d need to invent her. You betcha!

  59. Squid says:

    I appreciate that the labor unions led us to stuff like 40-hour work weeks and workplace safety. I appreciate that the Muslims gave us stuff like algebra and the concept of zero. I appreciate that feminists won the right to be treated equally. I appreciate that civil rights leads extended that right to all Americans. I appreciate that the federal government won a couple of world wars and created the Interstate highway system.

    Here’s the thing: those events all happened in the past, and those movements and bureaucracies have all been degraded to the point where they’re unrecognizable. If AJB were a decent person, he’d join with us in decrying the takeover of once-great organizations by those who have used their good reputations in the service of very bad ends, to the point where those reputations have been lost forever.

    Instead, AJB and his ilk join with the users in continuing to flog these hard-earned but long-lost reputations in hopes that low-information readers will continue to grant them respect that they do not deserve. Unfortunately for AJB and his fellow travelers, the masses are waking up to their schemes, and have started to notice the damage that these vermin cause wherever they’re allowed to take hold.

    Little wonder that they lash out with so much venom and so little substance, when they see that rather than garnering respect because of their affiliate organizations’ historical reputation, they are losing respect for squandering that reputation in the service of mean political ends.

    We’re on to you, AJB. We know the game you’re playing, and we know exactly what kind of people you are and how low you’re capable of stooping. You really should find another playground, one where people still buy in to your fraud.

  60. bh says:

    Can you blame them bh? If they, you know, took and stand for something and other such shit, they might only win 40 or 50 seats, when they can keep their mouths shut and win 45 or 55 seats sitting on their thumbs.

    Or they might win 70 or 80 with a mandate going forward. But that’s taking a risk. Better to keep their collective thumb up their ass. It’s more pragmatic.

    That’s exactly what I find so infuriating, Ernst. They could take a couple fewer seats but then be in a stronger position with the public once Obama begins his “They want to make your grandmother eat dog food if not actual orphans!” It’s coming, it’s so obvious that we can’t even rightfully call it a prediction.

    And, they’re fully rejecting the possibility that conservatism/classical liberalism might actually sell. That what we believe in might be something that others could believe in.

  61. Jeff G. says:

    Squid —

    It’s like the 60s hippies who somehow still remain on the left — going from anti-establishment, “we want to be free!” proto-libertarians to defending the Federal government’s right to regulate our salt intake and shower heads in the span of 40 years.

    What was “the Man won’t keep us down” is now “you proles won’t keep the Man down!” And not a trace of self-awareness in them to trigger the irony.

  62. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “We’re on to you, AJB. We know the game you’re playing, and we know exactly what kind of people you are and how low you’re capable of stooping.”

    – If you direct the “We” to people like Jeff’s PW readership, and sites like it, you’re absolutely right Squid. Unfortunately that does not include the majority of the Electorate, not in any knowledgeable political sense.

    – The only real common denominator, the one thing even a trailer lurking hilljack can understand, is his/her paystub, if they even has one.

    – The strongest tool we have going for us is the inescapable fact that:

    “Progressive/Democrat = high taxes/recession/less beer and parties.”

    – You know, tho things that really count in life.

  63. Ric Locke says:

    I don’t think the current system is sustainable. But I could be wrong. We need to get some nukes in orbit, just in case.

    Regards,
    Ric

  64. doubled says:

    Hey AJB, here is another good example of elite ‘betters’ out of control.

    http://reason.com/blog/2010/08/19/epidemiologist-fired-for-faili

    Which side is it that constantly lectures us about the need to NOT politicize science? Which side is it that constanly brays on about ‘the truth will set you free’ , and speak truth to power.

    Hypocrits to the core.

  65. Ernst Schreiber says:

    [T]hey’re fully rejecting the possibility that conservatism/classical liberalism might actually sell. That what we believe in might be something that others could believe in.

    Kinda implies then that conservatism/classical liberalism is something that They don’t believe in, nicht Warhr?

    Either because they stopped believing in it, (Frum) are embarrassed to believe in it, (Brooks) or never believed in it in the first place. (David Brock of Anita Hill fame). Just to pick on journalists/columnists with the first name David, for example.

  66. sdferr says:

    “Breaking out” points back to changing the one thing which we can be reasonably certain it is possible to change Ric, namely, our own minds.

  67. mojo says:

    “Once the Plebians discovered that they could vote themselves bread and circuses, the Republic was doomed.”

  68. Big Bang Hunter says:

    ““Once the Plebians discovered that they could vote themselves bread and circuses, the Republic was doomed.””

    – Small town officials with $300,000 yearly salaries and multi-million dollar pensions for instance….

    – The echo’s of the Ghosts of Rome are hauntingly accurate…

  69. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Except that’s not exactly what happened mojo, to either the Roman Republic or ours.

  70. doubled says:

    Outlaw Jeff G :”It’s like the 60s hippies who somehow still remain on the left — going from anti-establishment, “we want to be free!” proto-libertarians to defending the Federal government’s right to regulate our salt intake and shower heads in the span of 40 years.

    What was “the Man won’t keep us down” is now “you proles won’t keep the Man down!” And not a trace of self-awareness in them to trigger the irony.”

    Exactly. Remember ‘don’t trust anyone over 30’ from the sixties? Now that the ‘love’ generation is 50ish, and desiring to be ‘in charge’, not such a popular meme on the left anymore huh? Became don’t trust anyone except us progressives, because , well, we are PROGRESSIVE.

    Classical liberalism , I weep for thee.

  71. sdferr says:

    Not weeping. Classical liberalism ought to look to itself first, if it’s looking for somewhere to cast the blame.

  72. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The new meme is don’t trust anyone under 60. And they’re closer to 60ish than 50ish (the ones who aren’t lying about the “summer of love” are, anyway).

  73. Squid says:

    I don’t think the current system is sustainable. But I could be wrong.

    Ric, wrong? Never! Not on this, at least. Somebody around here said the Proggs were the political/economic equivalent of the perpetual motion machine. They seem to believe that the productive sector of society will react to ever-greater beatings and theft by redoubling their productivity. Common sense and empirical evidence suggest otherwise.

  74. I have a great uncle who sold candy and magazines and swept the train station during the Depression because his father was traveling the country looking for work and could only send money home at very irregular intervals. My great uncle was 11 when he started and didn’t go back to school until he was 15, he told me there were months when his income was the only reason his family saved their house. He told me that story when I was 14 and he found me working under the table for the company cleaning his beach house between rentals. His grandson was my age and had to get working papers and couldn’t work more than a set number of hours so he didn’t even bother. The upshot was that these days he would have been taken away from his mother and his family would’ve been in public housing. I always remember that story when people talk about how great child labor laws are, because some of them aren’t, not every kid back then was a slave.

  75. sdferr says:

    heh, maybe we should go with anyone younger than Machiavelli (just as an exercise!) and probably not him either.

  76. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – You know, sometimes in quieter moments I wonder to myself how much money the Soros’s of the world have made off this massive scam. They must just sit in their hot tubs and sip their mint Julips, and shake their heads at the stupidity of the American people.

  77. mcgruder says:

    Per Ernst’s thought, I have no idea why people are terribly optimistic about these elections in November.
    Politics is sort of “Defining deviancy” down writ very large; Once a policy of funding formerly private actions (bailouts, mortgages, Bush $400 we love you payments) there is very little momentum to end them. There is a good chance that a sizable number of Republicans will be elected in November with a concurrent amount of Democratic defeats. There is no chance that the GOP people newly installed in office will make any serious effort to take the massive pain–and let’s none of it mistake it for anything other than massive pain for a whole lot of our countrymen–to reduce (not curtail) spending on Medicare, Social Security, Pension and Corporate Guarantees (Im thinking Fannie/Freddie), The Pentagon as well as reducing taxes to stimulate growth. This, of course, is only a partial list.

    It will hurt. In Democracy’s, politicians dont do hurt.

  78. I made $4 an hour at that job, BTW. Minimum wage was $3.35. Most fun summer I ever had, we got to keep all the booze left behind by the renters and we had killer “hairy buffalo” parties on the beach at night.

  79. Squid says:

    Jeff,

    I think those “hippies” who espouse the nanny state are the same ones that always managed to become the petty tyrants of their communes. (Even in their carefree youth, these idiots couldn’t keep a commune from descending into dictatorship.) The main thing they learned from those days was that with a little sweet talk, some peer pressure, and perhaps a little mood-altering substance, you can get anything to let you fuck it.

    And people wonder why I bristle when Yelvie and AJB start sweet-talking me…

  80. dicentra says:

    What was “the Man won’t keep us down” is now “you proles won’t keep the Man down!” And not a trace of self-awareness in them to trigger the irony.

    That’s becausee there’s no irony to begin with. “The Man won’t keep us down” had nothing to do with a principled opposition to authority but rather was an effort to take down The Man so that they could be The Man instead.

    It’s the same with Zinnian anti-Americanism: it’s not that they hate America per se, it’s that they aren’t in charge, so they talk down America and American history to persuade us to put the “right people” in charge.

    Because when you’re running against an incumbent, you tell people how bad it is with the incumbent in charge, in the hopes that you can take his place and make it “better.”

    “Better” meaning “me in charge” rather than “improved society,” that is.

    Alinsky didn’t give a rat’s anatomy about justice or morality or whatnot; he was fascinated only by the gamesmanship involved in overturning an established power system. He knew damn well that the new boss would be exactly the same as the old boss.

    Protesting against The Man was just a tactic to put themselves on the throne. Anyone who thought principles were involved is just a useful idiot.

  81. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Everyone remembers the standing joke during the high flying days of the Military Industrial complex (well everyone over 50).

    New management policy: The beatings, paycuts, and layoffs will continue until morale and productivity improve.”

  82. Ernst Schreiber says:

    In Democracy’s, politicians dont do hurt.

    Oh, they do plenty of hurt alright, just not to themselves. Which is kind of why I don’t like the vote themselves the public treasury schtick. Nobody votes to rip themselves off. Instead politicians offer to buy your vote with your money, and tell you not to worry about it because your neighbor is going to pay more than you are.

    The better analogy is to view government programs as narcotics and politicians as drug dealers. But then again I’m a member of the inaugural class of D.A.R.E. Like Nancy said, “Just Say No!” (to big government).

    (And to demonstrate how well that Drug Abuse Resistance Education stuck, I’m going to go have a cigar now.)

  83. Squid says:

    Per Ernst’s thought, I have no idea why people are terribly optimistic about these elections in November.

    I think it’s naive to think that the momentum will be reversed in one election, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that it could be the beginning. The money is gone. The jobs are gone. The government has granted itself great power over every facet of our lives, yet it remains powerless against economic stagnancy and unemployment.

    Fiscal conservatism is coming back into vogue. We can help it by hammering home again and again that all the “free” goodies being promised aren’t free, but are in fact being stolen from our grandkids. Too many people still believe that the money comes from “the corporations” or “the fatcats,” and we need to fix this misunderstanding.

    I really think that a candidate running on a platform of freeing our grandchildren from Chinese slavery could have a decent shot. In the meantime, I notice that a lot of incumbents are sweating bullets, and that simply cannot be bad.

  84. guinsPen says:

    In Democracy’s what?

    In its where?

  85. bh says:

    Quick note: your notion of changing the game by changing how the players are chosen is worthy of discussion I think, sdferr. Shortest version, correct me if I’m wrong: We must actively recruit talent rather than allow continually choose between the most often disappointing crop of self-selectors.

    Don’t think I have anything particularly wise or insightful to say in this regard but I’d probably gain from some of the others around here batting the idea around.

  86. mcgruder says:

    84–good catch.
    Poor punctuation=Mea Culpa.

  87. bh says:

    Please mentally drop the “allow” above. Thanks.

  88. BuddyPC says:

    32. Comment by Big Bang Hunter on 8/19 @ 11:10 am #
    – That is the people who will even admit they voted for him. After another two years of this insanity a Russmusen poll will show that McCain won by a 25% margin.
    – You know, like the 4 million hippies that were at Woodstock.

    You don’t know how true is that. In MA, JV Obama and Hopeychange forerunner Deval Patrick won by 20 points in 2006, with almost 59% of the vote in a three way race; mostly on the strength of “property tax relief.”
    It’s been nearly impossible to get anybody to admit voting for him, even by waterboarding, since about late 2007.

  89. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Through all the insane noise comes a voice of sanity. What a perfect time for “America’s mayor” to show up on the scene of Leftturd meltdown.

    More signs the Left is losing its media monopoly.

  90. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – You’ll have to click on the fourth wind over with the picture of Guiliani to get to the article. The link they used is not hot.

  91. Silver Whistle says:

    It isn’t enough to win back power.

    No, it isn’t. Let’s say that snakes have licked my ears clean, and I have heard the future. Both House and Senate fall to the right in November, and in ’12 we elect a strong, fiscal conservative. All well and good, and the Republic is back on track. Well, almost. Humans being what they are, Washington being what it is, and politics being, well, politics, I can guarantee that any moves made in cleaning out the stable are not permanent. They never are. The statists are always on the march, and the never ending tendency is towards larger and larger government. Ask yourselves, what of Reagan’s revolution exists? Whose influence on political reality has been more long-lived, his or FDR’s? We forget all too easily, as soon as life becomes sweet again, what we have worked so hard for, and end up letting off the pressure and watchfulness on the critters we send to represent us.

    We had a leader here, a Hayekian, and her influence has all but vanished. We need vigilance, because we forget, and our opposition doesn’t.

  92. The extent to which the federal government no longer sees the citizens of this nation as the source of it’s authority and as a self governing people is appalling. It was bad when the Republicans controlled the Congress and the White House and the GOP paid an electoral price for their arrogance and statism. But it is ten times worse under the current regime. To them we seem to not be a self-governing nation of free people but a nation of subjects that it is their right to rule.

  93. happyfeet says:

    you can’t boycott Target in NY LA Chicago cause the depraved union whores won’t let them build Wal-marts

  94. happyfeet says:

    here is for Mr. JD I’m listening right now it’s kinda like a cross between whale noises and the theme from that show where the computer wouldn’t let the guy back in the spaceship

  95. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Even worse is the extent to which the citizens of this nation no longer see themselves as a free and sovereign people, but as the dependents of a Federal Government which is the source of their largesse.

  96. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Even as the latest labor figures are showing another loss of 500,000 jobs this past quarter, and Twinkle toes completes his whirlwind tour, hoping to convince a cash strapped struggling electorate that “Things are fine, not as good as we’d like, but fine, and heading in the right direction because I said so”, what is his brownliness and the WH busy doing?

    – Well the White House is involved in a politically serious effort to talk-down all this silliness about Bumbblefucks being a Muslim. Of course the grumbling voices of Muslim leaders, something about “once a a Muslim always a Muslim”, doesn’t rxactly help the cause. 23% of a polled electorate (probably a skewed downward figure) believe he really is Muslim, and just panders the Christian line for political expediency.

    – And Bumbblefuck. Well he’s about to go on vacation jaunt six for the year.

    – Be happy. At least as long as he’s on vacation the debt can’t get much more worse.

  97. bh says:

    Via Cafe Hayek, a bit of video synchronicity to this thread.

  98. Ernst Schreiber says:

    maybe we should go with anyone younger than Machiavelli (just as an exercise!)

    Don’t trust anyone younger than Machiavelli? You’ve just purged all the classical liberals, sdferr. I don’t think Jeff is going to be happy about that. But, just as an exercise, what does that make us? neo-scholastics? neo-neo platonists? neo-aristotleans? neo-paleo-platonists? neo-pre-socratics?

    My vote is for neo-Atenists. Just for the sake of returning to the source.

  99. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Well, in my case I’m neo-Jurassic, so I get to be really nasty to Lefturds.

  100. guinsPen says:

    You’re welcome, mcgruder.

    Now, regarding democracy, arithmetic and spelling.

  101. mojo says:

    #Comment by Ernst Schreiber on 8/19 @ 12:51 pm #

    Except that’s not exactly what happened mojo, to either the Roman Republic or ours.

    Well, mea fucking culpa for using an historically-incorrect quip.

  102. cranky-d says:

    As long as you realize the severe error of your ways, and whip yourself bloody over it, all is well.

  103. Mr. W says:

    Barack Obama has ended the Democrat Party as a force in American politics.

    Calendar for November 2010:

    Now until November 2nd, the Dems in Congress and the Senate are dead men walking.

    November 2nd they sit in the chair.

    November 3rd we will get the eulogy talking about their many great works.

    (spit)

    November 4th they will be forgotten.

    From November 4th on there will be an fierce cascade of bile in the form of awful legislation directed at the American people by the spirits of the departed Democrats as they head collectively (how else?) towards a well-deserved historical oblivion.

    Their actions will insure that every Democrat in state and local elections changes their party affiliation to ‘Whig’.

    100 bucks at 5 to 1 that over 100 Democrats lose their jobs in the House and Senate.

    My winnings (and trust me, they will be ‘my winnings’) go to the Jeff G. Relief Fund. Any takers?

    C’mon! You’ve read the expert analysis! 20 seats, MAX! That Benjamin is as good as in your hot little hand right now!

  104. Squid says:

    Just bear in mind that “flagellation” and “flatulation” are not the same thing.

  105. ThomasD says:

    #50 – I used to hunt on a colony north of Great Falls.

    Hutterites are good people but I’m not sure how desperate I’d have to be to live that lifestyle.

    As pacifists I’m not sure how well they’d fare in an SHTF world either.

  106. LTC John says:

    mcgruder – I beg to differ – what did the GOP Congress pass, and Clinton sign….welfare reform. Remember how the “Iron Triangle” [welfare recipients who voted, Dem Congress critters who voted them the programs and the “advocates” who agitated for them] would never be broken? It can happen. I am going to do all I can to make it happen. Again.

  107. guinsPen says:

    Your use of “an historically” bodes well for you at the trial, though.

  108. happyfeet says:

    “invisible mist of oil

    “The water samples when we were right in the plume look like spring water,” study chief author Richard Camilli said. “You certainly didn’t see any oil droplets and you certainly didn’t smell it.”

    it’s like Science and America are having a gay off

  109. JD says:

    Worse than Carter is certainly a challenge. Other than destroying jobs, this appears to be the only challenge that Barcky has been able to rise up to.

  110. happyfeet says:

    it’s like there’s an invisible mist of job-killingness

  111. newrouter says:

    it’s like there’s an invisible mist of job-killingness

    eau de baracky

  112. Mr. W says:

    100 bucks at 5 to 1 that over 100 Democrats lose their jobs in the House and Senate.

    My winnings (and trust me, they will be ‘my winnings’) go to the Jeff G. Relief Fund. Any takers?

    C’mon! You’ve read the expert analysis! 20 seats, MAX! That Benjamin is as good as in your hot little hand right now!

  113. geoffb says:

    That Benjamin is as good as in your hot little hand right now!

    I prefer my Jeff G. contributions straight up, no chaser. Plus you are going to win that going away.

  114. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Well,mea fucking culpa for using an historically-incorrect quip.

    And excuuuse me for that shameless, onanistic display of pedantry. Didn’t mean to splooge all over your quip.

  115. sdferr says:

    Don’t trust anyone younger than Machiavelli? You’ve just purged all the classical liberals, sdferr. I don’t think Jeff is going to be happy about that. But, just as an exercise, what does that make us? neo-scholastics? neo-neo platonists? neo-aristotleans? neo-paleo-platonists? neo-pre-socratics?

    My vote is for neo-Atenists. Just for the sake of returning to the source.

    To take seriously the thing what I believe to be predominately in jest, by all means, let us look to the Egyptians or whoever else we might choose for that matter, working our way through what is after all our past as a species, or more particularly as political animals, in order to understand what we have been, what we may have overlooked, what there is of use that we may have forgotten, and so on. This doesn’t seem to me to lead us to the question “what does that make us” in the sense of committing us to a school of thought, at least not from the get-go it wouldn’t, though it might not prevent that actual outcome in some either, but be that as it may.

    So going along, looking at them as they looked at themselves, passing from one notable instance of the political on to the next, we put them back into our accounts, one after another, even unto Niccolo and beyond, each into their place with due regard to their antecedents, even to the Classical liberals and beyond! On to the stars, so to speak. And only finally coming back to our narrow obsessions with ourselves, who have in one sense never lacked for attention, and in another, have never properly had it.

  116. Ernst Schreiber says:

    A question for Mr. W:

    On what date does the lame duck temper tantrum/trashing the place before moving out session begin?

  117. Rusty says:

    110
    A miasma of “outhouse” wafting from the oval office.

  118. newrouter says:

    nov.3 2010

  119. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It was asked tongue in cheek, which isn’t quite the same thing as in jest.

    So you’re looking for an excuse to read Eric Voegelin too?

  120. sdferr says:

    Heh. Damn, do I need an excuse?

    “Papers please. Where’s your Voegelin stamp? Alright, turn around and put your hands on top of your head. *click – click* Now come with me.”

  121. bh says:

    Well, the tongue in cheek question got me to look up the ol’ Atenists. Some interesting stuff.

  122. sdferr says:

    The irony I’ve been seeing most the past week or so, turning on the mosque controversy, is how often people seem to have lost sight of the extent of the term “politics”, narrowing it right down to a bloody nub delimited to partisan electoral politics of the sort they are accustomed to here in the States (and I’m not so much speaking of people here, as elsewhere, though the usage has appeared here too). It’s both fascinating and sickening all at once.

  123. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Those damnable Austrian Wunderkinder. Almost makes you think the Habsburgs were on to something.

  124. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Well, the tongue in cheek question got me to look up the ol’ Atenists. Some interesting stuff.

    That was the first time in history (that we know of) where somebody tried to start the world over.

    Oh spunk! There I go again. Just like that stupid bear on Conan O’Brien, I can’t stop myself.

  125. sdferr says:

    “…where somebody tried to start the world over.”

    Which reminded me of the fellow in Memento, which reminded me of brain lesions, which, wait, what were we talking about again?

  126. sdferr says:

    “..but I’d probably gain from some of the others around here batting the idea around.”

    On that, this: me too.

  127. dicentra says:

    We forget all too easily, as soon as life becomes sweet again, what we have worked so hard for, and end up letting off the pressure and watchfulness on the critters we send to represent us.

    In null gravity, no matter how much you exercise or how many calcium pills you take, you will inevitably lose bone and muscle mass. Your body doesn’t want to invest the energy in resisting a non-existent force.

    And no matter how well you sweep the floor, you’ll never sweep it so well that it never needs sweeping again.

  128. newrouter says:

    entropy

  129. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Yeah I saw that on the 6:00 news. Why do I get the feeling he’s out for the season?

  130. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Kinda recontextualises “worse than Carter.”

  131. bh says:

    That other Carter I really disliked.

  132. bh says:

    It was a popular theory in my area that Randy Moss would have become a fine young man if he hadn’t met Chris Carter as an impressionable youth.

    Personally, I buy it.

  133. guinsPen says:

    Only a fool would try to crack the quip on this crowd.

  134. mcgruder says:

    Guinspen? Right, then. Whatever you say.

    LtC. John. I’m going to disagree. How many people on welfare did you know in the ’94 era? Moreover, if you knew any (and I don’t think I knew any myself,) how many did you know that voted? And, a dirty little secret is that the Dems rich urban and suburban bases knew less on welfare–and saw how damaging it was just as clearly as anyone else–as did you. They just tolerated it as a by-product of their political choice, just like we tolerate screechy libertarians or bible-thumping social conservatives.

    What needs to be done will 100% effect people you and I know. Means test the bejeesus out of Social Security, deep cuts in discretionary spending, some cuts in DoD budget, massive cuts and shifts in Medicare, run-off and then shutter Fannie and Freddie, putting in meaningful restrictions on what Wall Street can do….this is going to effect everyone and it will be hard.

    The fellow who runs on that plank will get my vote but not terribly many others.

    So you will get some ’12 version of McCain, who is not so terribly different to Obama, save for being more palatable to “our” side in some views and some rhetoric, but come budget time I’m guessing He’d find it within him to give the GSE’s more credit and “study” Medicare reform, maybe nick an orphaned program or two in each Cabinet level “Department of________”

    The amusing thing will be to watch the Left rip this money-orgasming stooge to ribbons for being Jesse Helms v 2.0.

  135. mcgruder says:

    Correction: knew less on welfare–and saw how damaging it was just as clearly as anyone else–as did you

    To: knew less on welfare–and saw how damaging it was just as clearly as anyone else–than did you

    apologies.

  136. ak4mc says:

    What needs to be done will 100% effect people you and I know. Means test the bejeesus out of Social Security, deep cuts in discretionary spending, some cuts in DoD budget, massive cuts and shifts in Medicare, run-off and then shutter Fannie and Freddie, putting in meaningful restrictions on what Wall Street can do….this is going to effect everyone and it will be hard.

    Whereas doing nothing, and letting the train wreck happen? Easy peasy!

  137. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It was a popular theory in my area that Randy Moss would have become a fine young man if he hadn’t met Chris Carter as an impressionable youth.

    I hadn’t heard that. Did your area have any theories on why Culpepper needed so much hand holding?

  138. mcgruder says:

    Yup.
    Correct.

    You wanna be the one to tell the VFW National confab on Tuesday, “I’m looking at about $150-billion off the Pentagon budget in the next 5 years, maybe fold the Air Force back into the Army and cut it in half, staying on our shores as much as possible….” and then on Wednesday, break it to the NEA, “Well, I’m proposing a one-third reduction in Federal spending on education….” The next week, you announce that if you have over $500,000 in assets, or under 80, you’re really not going to get Social Security….

    Yeah. I just don’t see that from my laptop as I survey the 50 governors and 100 Senators that will comprise the cohort of geniuses who run for POTUS.
    Do you?

    (Bonus points if you mention Palin or Romney)

  139. bh says:

    I think that was because he never truly made the transition from circus giant to quarterback.

  140. guinsPen says:

    Democracy plus democracy spells democracies in my old country numbers book.

  141. Ernst Schreiber says:

    *laughing* Good one bh!

  142. JHo says:

    it’s like Science and America are having a gay off

    Oh, that’s a keeper, ‘feets.

    Cupcakes all around.

  143. JHo says:

    Still chuckling…

  144. newrouter says:

    The next week, you announce that if you have over $500,000 in assets, or under 80, you’re really not going to get Social Security….

    old age welfare got to go

  145. JD says:

    If I could quit paying into SS today, and forfeit all I have paid in to date, I would.

  146. bh says:

    Same here. As a matter of fact, I’d be okay with continuing to pay in for a very long transition period for the boomers if they’d just finally take the necessary steps to reform it.

  147. guinsPen says:

    I promise I will.

    So in the name of shrinking bureaucracies just send your continuings straight to me.

  148. bh says:

    You’re a crafty one, guins.

  149. Elf Radio says:

    Oh, neat, and Obama hate thread. I bet those happen quite often around here.

    You know what i don’t see? A single thread about the “completion of withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq” thread. You’re not alone — very few conservative blogs are paying any attention at all to this story. That’s so strange. I get the feeling that if Bush was still president, he’d be riding on a tank through D.C. with a big banner that read “We done got them guys what attacked us on 9-11, yeah!”

    Come on, righties, whatever happened to your war fervor? Freedom fries? Mission accomplished? Boot in the butt from Uncle Sam? Remember how the first year or two of the war made you feel? You’ve lost that lovin’ feeling. I theorize that there are three possible explanations for this…

    1. You secretly want to cheer, but are paralyzed by the fear that the Dem president might get some credit in the process, no matter how peripheral.

    2. You actually became sickened by the war about the same time that most people did, somewhere around 2004, but you had to pretend to support it for the next four years, because there was no goddamn way you were gonna admit to them damn libruls that they were right all along.

    3. Mosque! Mosque at ground zero! Raaargh, angry! No like mosque!!! War? What war? Mosque now!

  150. bh says:

    Shorter Elf Radio:

  151. happyfeet says:

    falling on my head like a new emotion*

  152. happyfeet says:

    Dave Stewart married a bananarama and you didn’t

  153. guinsPen says:

    Roust me when it gets to…

    Four !!!

  154. sdferr says:

    You know who doesn’t talk about the war much bh? Yeah, Barack Obama. Dude hardly has a word to say about it, nevermind a cogent word.

  155. happyfeet says:

    here is a delightful story about feces for Mr. Radio

  156. Abe Froman says:

    Don’t you have a floor to mop, Elfie?

  157. guinsPen says:

    Reason number five, no poofters.

  158. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I don’t know what the hell it is you think you’re gloating about when the occupation continues

    Pax Americana Bitch!

    …get back to us when Obama closes Gitmo.

  159. bh says:

    You’re right, sdferr. Never hear much about any war from Obama. Which is odd. Because he certainly does like standing up and talking about shit he knows nothing about.

    Wonder why that is?

    Duck, pie!

  160. bh says:

    What, Ernst? Gitmo is closed. He said he’d do it real quick-like to all the suckers. So, I assume he did it. Or that they’re suckers.

  161. Elf Radio says:

    “Don’t you have a floor to mop, Elfie?”

    Nope. Ain’t my job. But i will be monitoring the clearwells that hold approximately 4.5 million gallons of water each. Unless things have changed by tonight, the Cumberland will be cresting at 38.5 feet. Want me to release some storage and raise it a bit more?

    Nah, i’m just playing. I couldn’t do that. I’m not sure if anyone could…. darned federal safety procedures!

  162. JD says:

    Remember when he was a candidate how Barcky would go on and on and on and on about how he had the unique ability and judgment to properly prosecute the just war in Afghanistan?

    Elfie awoke from yet another drunken stupor and spit out a literal cornucopia of leftist BS

  163. JD says:

    Good Allah, this one is beyond stupid. There must be something about being a liberal around Murfreesboro that makes people insane.

  164. Abe Froman says:

    My bad, you do a different kind of monkey work.

  165. happyfeet says:

    that’s a big whole lot of water

  166. sdferr says:

    I remember Obama lecturing Dave Petraeus about the surge. He could hardly shut his yap back then, in fact ran out of question time before anyone could give him an answer. The Chairman was nice enough to let Ryan Crocker have a brief crack at undoing the confusion Barry had wrought though.

  167. Elf Radio says:

    Damn right. So, what do you do for a paycheck, Abe? Let me guess, you [I AIN’T GOT NUTHIN’ TO PROVE TO A LIBTURD!!!]

  168. Big Bang Hunter says:

    “…Yeah. I just don’t see that from my laptop”

    – If nothing is done it will be a self-healing problem, which will only be even worse for all concerned.

    – SS should be privatized in a safe form like 401K’s, but mandated, If I would have had the same sort of plan as Congressmen I would have retired a millionaire. Bubble or no bubble.

    – Did someone leave the radio on tuned to that Radio Moscow station again?

  169. BJTex says:

    Well Obama is completely responsible for the withdrawal from Iraq even though that withdrawal schedule was prosecuted and set by … Buuuuuuuuush! Whoopdie diddly do! Now we get to watch him flounder in Afghanistan the way we got to watch Bush gag before 2007. We can hope that Obama will have one of those strategic incites that will change the face of tactics in that part of the world.

    You’ll pardon me if I don’t hold my breath.

  170. JD says:

    sdferr – His unique ability and superior judgment were supposed to make him be able to lead us to the promised land in Afghanistan. Bush won long ago in Iraq, but Barcky/Biden will try to claim credit. And elfie will remain an idiot.

  171. Pablo says:

    Oh, neat, and Obama hate thread. I bet those happen quite often around here.

    Do you remember Bush hate threads? I’m sure you do. Intimately. Flip the script and there you go. Capicse?

  172. BJTex says:

    insights … damn drugs …

  173. JD says:

    BJ – Elfie is a new idiot that joined us while you were under the weather. His level of idiocy is only exceeded by William the plagiarist Yelverton.

  174. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Oh and since it would all be money YOU earned, and beyond administering and distribution, it wouldn’t cost the treasury a fucking dime.

    – Even there if they needed to charge a 5% admin fee you would still be about 10 to 15 times better off than SS, and not just another rock on the back of the economy.

  175. sdferr says:

    I dunno BJT, Obama’s little speech at the iftard dinner had a bit of the strategic incite to it.

  176. JD says:

    By a show of hands, who hates Barcky O’Bambi?
    By a show of hands, who just wants him to go away?

  177. Pablo says:

    So, what do you do for a paycheck, Abe?

    I dunno about Abe, but I entice people to give me their money. It’s good work if you can get it. If you can’t, well, you stay right there. I’m gonna go send you, or one of your counterparts something.

  178. BJTex says:

    I’d like to see some incite tempwered by some well considered insight. You know, in between the drugs and all.

  179. bh says:

    One thing I really enjoy about Elf Radio is his uncanny ability to pick out the very people who least fit his insults.

  180. JD says:

    bh – Bagged an elephant today. Big one.

  181. Abe Froman says:

    Damn right. So, what do you do for a paycheck, Abe? Let me guess, you [I AIN’T GOT NUTHIN’ TO PROVE TO A LIBTURD!!!]

    That’s so true. Mindless work has made you rather quippy.

  182. bh says:

    I’ve already made the offer to take a picture of a room in my house without sexy cartoon posters and duct-taped chairs if you’d agree to go someplace more fitting.

  183. bh says:

    Prove it, JD. Prove it!

  184. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – My mom taught me its not nice to make fun of politically brainwashed people. After all, she said, they’re no different than you, just that they’re stupid, which they can’t help, and aren’t to blame for, so it would be cruel.

    – On the other hand, nothing wrong with making sure they get back home to Chicago safely, just as long as they leave.

  185. JD says:

    Major league baseball, spring training 8 practice fields at one location, 4 at another, and resurfacing their awesome MLB field in 2 years.

  186. Elf Radio says:

    Well, i’m in the right place then, bh — you guys with all your talk of floor-mopping and commode-cleaning — you’re all so cute!

    “Well Obama is completely responsible for the withdrawal from Iraq even though that withdrawal schedule was prosecuted and set by … Buuuuuuuuush! Whoopdie diddly do!”

    Er, no. I don’t think that Obama deserves much credit for this, actually. You know who i give the credit to? The fucking military. It took them seven years, but they were able to scrape out some sense of victory from Bush’s long string of incredible fuck-ups.

  187. bh says:

    Holy shit. That’s like a pregnant elephant.

  188. BJTex says:

    It was a midget elephant, bh. JD isn’t as wiggly about them compared to tiny clowns.

  189. JD says:

    I can only aspire to draw cartoons and jerk off to homemade anime while I live in a room smaller than a utility closet with a bedsheet over the window.

  190. Elf Radio says:

    That’s so true.

    Then, Abe, i’m just going to go ahead and assume that you have a job that you hate, and are ashamed of. Don’t worry, if you just remain silent, the other wingnuts will just assume that you do something really cool.

  191. happyfeet says:

    congratulations Mr. JD

  192. bh says:

    A crazy mental image involving [redacted] came to mind just then, BJ. But if I typed it JD would never come back again.

  193. BJTex says:

    Bush signed off on the surge despite plenty of Democrats (including Reid, Obama and Pelosi as the finger pointing triad.) Bush was also smart enough to let Patreaus prosecute the successful strategy. Obama has proven to not have clue one about military operations.

  194. JD says:

    You could not even ruin today with teeming hordes of demonic midget clowns, bh.

  195. Pablo says:

    Er, no. I don’t think that Obama deserves much credit for this, actually. You know who i give the credit to? The fucking military. It took them seven years, but they were able to scrape out some sense of victory from Bush’s long string of incredible fuck-ups.

    Very, very true about the military. General Betrayus did an outstanding job, as did the brave men and women that served under him, and Bush. Thing is, the military only does what it’s told to do. In this case, the plan they were handed was this Status of Forces Agreement. Are you familiar with it, Elfie?

  196. JD says:

    Pablo – Are you trying to make its pointy little smegma covered head assplode?

  197. happyfeet says:

    the whole thing could still go very south we shouldn’t be leaving we should have bases with airplanes on the way home from bombing the shit out of the cocksucking Iranian’s nuclear facilities

  198. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Ah nuts! Here I thought JD had gotten bored and, on a whim, hopped on his Gulfstream withs 2 suitcases full of krugerands and flew off to Zimbabwe to pot Dumbo’s mama with that H & H .700 nitro express! And it’s just a contract.

  199. JD says:

    Ernst – That ain’t me. I wish, though.

    happyfeet – Fucker will probably sell them the materials they need to finish everything off. And then try to blame Bush.

  200. guinsPen says:

    [h]is level of idiocy

    Why, he’s our very own living, breathing Cumberland Gap.

  201. sdferr says:

    Eliot Abrams sayin’ he thinks Barry’s going to get on Iran had me confuzzled no small confuzzling.

  202. JD says:

    sdferr – I don’t know if that would make me cry or laugh.

  203. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Obama’s whole approach in Afghanistan has been such a total stalemate he was finally forced to adapt the only thing he had not up to that time from Bush/Chaney, namely Patreaus. He finished Iraq with Bush’s plan, and he’s going to try to continue that way now. (You remember “Be-tray-us” don’t you Elf-brains?)

    – So the only thing I’d give him credit for is knowing how little he knows.

    – In the mean time where is the moment to moment screeching at the top of your lungs against the War tinyweenee Radio?

    – Funny how you were not ashamed to be anti- American when Booooosh was in office, but once Bumbblefuck owned it *poof* it disapeared like magic from your “narrative”.

  204. bh says:

    Elf, let me try this one more time.

    I’ve had (far) worse jobs and I’ve lived in (far) worse places. This isn’t why people are making fun of you.

    Consider the fact that you’re becoming known for a certain preening superiority (“librul”, “Raaargh, angry! No like mosque!!!”) and try to connect some dots here.

  205. Ernst Schreiber says:

    We all need something to aspire to JD.

    Except our Alfie. He’s the Bhudda of wastewater management, he’s so content.

  206. bh says:

    Here I thought JD had gotten bored and, on a whim, hopped on his Gulfstream withs 2 suitcases full of krugerands and flew off to Zimbabwe to pot Dumbo’s mama with that H & H .700 nitro express!

    Ernst, I now very much want you to meet a certain senior partner.

  207. Pablo says:

    Bush signed off on the surge despite plenty of Democrats (including Reid, Obama and Pelosi as the finger pointing triad.) Bush was also smart enough to let Patreaus prosecute the successful strategy. Obama has proven to not have clue one about military operations.

    Yes. Let’s remember Barack Obama circa January 2007.

    That is why I plan to introduce legislation which I believe will stop the escalation of this war by placing a cap on the number of soldiers in Iraq.

    Have you ever seen anyone more wrong than Jimmy Carter? You have now. But, hey. Hope! Change!

  208. Big Bang Hunter says:

    we shouldn’t be leaving

    – We’re not feets. Just moving the majority to Kuwait. You can bet your ass we’ll maintain a battle ready Airforce and ground assault presence there while Twinkles toes waits for the Iranians to achieve nuclear capability.

  209. Pablo says:

    Pablo – Are you trying to make its pointy little smegma covered head assplode?

    That’s a really big part of why I come here, JD. Nothing tastier than fresh troll.

  210. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I don’t need to bh. I grew up reading Peter Hathaway Capstick. Capstick was my father’s vacation planning guide. Three of the Big Five and god only knows how much plains game.

  211. Abe Froman says:

    Then, Abe, i’m just going to go ahead and assume that you have a job that you hate, and are ashamed of. Don’t worry, if you just remain silent, the other wingnuts will just assume that you do something really cool.

    You really don’t understand that you’re the entertainment here, do you? Everyone here already knows I’m a costume designer for Belgian midget porn. Why wouldn’t I love my work?

  212. bh says:

    Ernst, I’m convinced he has a secret room full of trophy humans, the most dangerous prey.

  213. Pablo says:

    the whole thing could still go very south we shouldn’t be leaving we should have bases with airplanes on the way home from bombing the shit out of the cocksucking Iranian’s nuclear facilities

    50K still there, ‘feets, and not going anywhere, God Bless ’em. Really, the Iraqis need to run their own shit. It’s time. If shit gets ugly, we’re still there and could be there a lot more pretty quickly. But it’s time we took our hand off the bicycle seat and let the kid go, lest we be enablers.

  214. happyfeet says:

    we will see… I don’t trust this Obama feller

    The Associated Press is reporting that he’s a muslim you know.

  215. bh says:

    An award winning costume designer for Belgian midget porn, Abe.

    Don’t sell yourself short.

  216. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I’m still waiting for one single Progg Lefturd to admit they were wrong about even just the surge.






    *crickets*

  217. bh says:

    That terrible pun wasn’t intended. Really, it wasn’t.

  218. bh says:

    Isn’t even a pun, I suppose. That sort of juxtaposition-type joke thingy wasn’t intended.

  219. happyfeet says:

    oh. because he’s so short is why you said that.

  220. DarthRove says:

    Abe, I particularly enjoyed your contribution to 2007’s Le petit pénis aspirateur. How did you ever come up with using glowsticks and taffeta that way? Brilliant!

  221. Ernst Schreiber says:

    the most dangerous prey

    Well in that case. I’d be interested in meeting him. Just so long as I’m not invited to his private island.

  222. Elf Radio says:

    “You really don’t understand that you’re the entertainment here, do you?”

    Of course, Abe. Likewise, you guys are the entertainment for me. It goes both ways.

    You think you hate me, but without guys like me, this place would just be an endless circlejerk of conservatives agreeing with each other. Nothing’s more boring than that.

    ( “Durr, Obama is worse than Stalin! Yeah, no wait, he’s worse than Hitler! Hurr, i love what you guys is sayin’, but he’s worse than Boris and Natasha put together! Hurr hurr, good one, man!” )

    I don’t hate you guys, though. You guys are totally rad! I mean that.

    Sigh, off to work again. Am i the only one here with a job?

  223. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Like the President, I don’t speak Belgian, so I don’t think I can fully appreciate that particular work, Darth. But if it comes sub-titled in Austrian, that’d be okay. I read Austrian fairly well.

  224. Pablo says:

    we will see… I don’t trust this Obama feller

    I don’t either. But he doesn’t give a fuck about Iraq, so it could turn out OK.

  225. JD says:

    Why do leftists like elfie feel compelled to claim some type of faux superiority?

  226. bh says:

    You’re a bad man, ‘feets.

  227. Darleen says:

    why does elfie remind me of Eddie Haskell? Without the charm? And on crack?

  228. Pablo says:

    Of course, Abe. Likewise, you guys are the entertainment for me. It goes both ways.

    Not like you think.

  229. Big Bang Hunter says:

    …But he doesn’t give a fuck about Iraq…

    – Which it always seems to come back to with Bumbblefuck. As long as he doesm’t do anything, it seems to work out ok. He knew he’d had no idea of how to proceed in the war, and didn’t even trust his own cabinet not to totally fucks things up by following the brain dead idea’s of his own party. so he let the military handle it, and you see the results. at least in Iraq. The he got involved in Afdghan and all crap all the time, so he turned that over to the military too. there’s a definate pattern here.

    – Maybe we could find lots of other things for him not to do and not give a fuck about. Sort of an “Orbits” Prez.

    Because he can’t!

  230. mcgruder says:

    Endless circle jerk? here?
    man, Elf radio, man.
    Work harder…then you can work smarter.

    PS–I dislike you, even though I totally agree with you on the Iraq war (FUBAR to some bezerk degree. Youre a fan boy, I can smell it. Give us some sport, control panel man–name three policies you dissent from the DNC-Pelosi-Obama axis on.

  231. sdferr says:

    Bush is fun to watch. Check out his slipping the coins one at a time from the fistfull in his left hand.

  232. JD says:

    Mcgruder – this is an echo chamber. We never disagree.

  233. guinsPen says:

    Reason number six, mambo number five.

  234. Abe Froman says:

    Of course, Abe. Likewise, you guys are the entertainment for me. It goes both ways.

    I imagine that any attention is entertainment when you’re a social retard on the overnight.

  235. mcgruder says:

    Thats correct JD. I agree with you.

  236. JD says:

    McG – palin. Duck.

  237. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Elfie, there’s a concept you need to get clear on.

    – People don’t hate things that are insignificant.

  238. bh says:

    I agree with both mcgruder and JD. And also with guins when he then makes fun of us.

  239. JD says:

    I disagree with bh, he has cheese for brains. Plus, Palin will be the next pressydent ;-)

  240. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – If I was Prez I’d sure want her on my staff.

  241. bh says:

    Oh yeah? By all that is holy I jinx Jeff Saturday’s knees.

    Don’t fuck with me, hoosier.

  242. sdferr says:

    Don’t be letting on to ZombieBJT that bh has cheese for brains. Jeez.

  243. dicentra says:

    You know what i don’t see? A single thread about the “completion of withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq” thread.

    You know what this isn’t? Your blog.

    Also, my BIL is being deployed to Iraq this month. He’s in the Cavalry. Tanks and stuff. So “withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq” doesn’t exactly resonate.

    1. You secretly want to cheer, but are paralyzed by the fear that the Dem president might get some credit in the process, no matter how peripheral.

    2. You actually became sickened by the war about the same time that most people did, somewhere around 2004, but you had to pretend to support it for the next four years, because there was no goddamn way you were gonna admit to them damn libruls that they were right all along.

    Typical Lefty troll: confusing his own motives with ours in his simple-minded Manicheism. They always figure that because they viscerally despise our peeps, we must also viscerally despise theirs. Or that because they only care about scoring points for their team that we must, too.

    Or that if they support something out of compassion, that we must oppose it out of a lack of same.

    It never occurs to them that our thought processes are orthogonal to theirs, not inverted.
    Never occurs to them that the reason we talked about the war so much during the Bush years is that we had to keep defending it from the relentless, mindless, bad-faith criticism from the Left. That we couldn’t sit still while lies were repeated and repeated until they were accepted as truth.

    And that we have stopped talking about the war because the Left has stopped shrieking about it, now that their Messiah is in office.

    Why only just yesterday, some skirt over at Feministing admitted that her support for the GZ mosque had more to do with who supported it than with any kind of general principle.

    You’d never catch any of us at pw doing something like that, and by “something like that” I don’t mean admitting to being more partisan than principled, I mean actually being more partisan than principled.

    But the light shineth in the darkness and the darkenss comprehendeth it not. It’s like trying to explain the difference between orange and green to the congenitally blind.

  244. JD says:

    That was like Dante’s 56th Ring of evil, bh.

  245. bh says:

    Shorter dicentra: The Cowboys suck.

    Yeah, that’s right, sdferr.

  246. happyfeet says:

    the darkness probably has a dim idea

  247. bh says:

    These circle-jerks can get a bit contentious, huh?

  248. sdferr says:

    My favorite fullback was standing just 8 ft. behind Pres. Bush there. Cowboys appreciate troops is what Cowboys do.

  249. Danger says:

    “I agree with both mcgruder and JD. And also with guins when he then makes fun of us.”

    Now this is how we follow an OPORDER;)
    Keep Firing!

  250. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – dicentra, must you always kick down the doors, and sweep all the testosterone aside and speak truth to lip twanging, slobber mouthed idiots.

    – Damn womens are just kill joys.

  251. JD says:

    Some of you Cowgirls fans should come to Indy for the game this year.

  252. sdferr says:

    “Keep Firing!”

    Oh right, push us around flyboy! Who dialed up and made you hall monitor?

  253. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – and yes, the Cowboys sucketh

  254. Jeff G. says:

    Oh, neat, and Obama hate thread. I bet those happen quite often around here.

    A good thing about my not being Christian? I don’t have to love my fucking enemy.

    You know what i don’t see? A single thread about the “completion of withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq” thread. You’re not alone — very few conservative blogs are paying any attention at all to this story. That’s so strange. I get the feeling that if Bush was still president, he’d be riding on a tank through D.C. with a big banner that read “We done got them guys what attacked us on 9-11, yeah!”

    You know what else you don’t see? Posts about thousands of other things that I didn’t feel like posting about today.

    Allow me to point you to Daryl Zero, who spoke eloquently on why this might be: "Now, a few words on looking for things. When you go looking for something specific, your chances of finding it are very bad. Because of all the things in the world, you're only looking for one of them. When you go looking for anything at all, your chances of finding it are very good. Because of all the things in the world, you're sure to find some of them."

    Come on, righties, whatever happened to your war fervor? Freedom fries? Mission accomplished? Boot in the butt from Uncle Sam? Remember how the first year or two of the war made you feel? You’ve lost that lovin’ feeling. I theorize that there are three possible explanations for this…

    Plenty of good-faith engagement there. Gee, why don’t we all go about explaining ourselves to a puny douche who draws third-rate background art for Heavy Metal knockoffs! After all, he’s certainly earned our respect, what with his trenchant, “War Pigs”-like analyses. And poorly shaded, outsized space-chick tits.

    1. You secretly want to cheer, but are paralyzed by the fear that the Dem president might get some credit in the process, no matter how peripheral.

    Credit for what? Cheer about what?

    2. You actually became sickened by the war about the same time that most people did, somewhere around 2004, but you had to pretend to support it for the next four years, because there was no goddamn way you were gonna admit to them damn libruls that they were right all along.

    We were sick of the war the moment the planes hit the Towers. But unlike space-tit drawing, pseudo-intellectual elf lords, we realize that it takes more than a bunch of hairy-footed throbbers and a magic ring to defend the country against what is, in fact, a clash of civilizations.

    You might at least say thank you, you hairless pixy, because if it wasn’t for people willing to defend this country, you’d be serving as a pinwheel on the cock of some repressed Islamic warrior. Until he decided to stone you to death.

    3. Mosque! Mosque at ground zero! Raaargh, angry! No like mosque!!! War? What war? Mosque now!

    And here I thought it was the “wingnuts” who weren’t nuanced enough to care about more than one thing at a time…

    You don’t know a thing about the people here. You show up, start sniping at the cartoon conservatives in your own head, and pretend that you’ve scored points with some clever little quip.

    But in reality, we all feel sorry for you. You’re a clueless fuck — part of an army of entitled dullards who are so busy pretending you’re smarter than you are that you don’t realize what a useful idiot you’ve become.

    Thing is, it’s my liberties you and your ilk are helping to hand over to a growing centralized government. And I don’t like that.

    Were you here, I’d spit on you without giving it a second thought.

  255. Pablo says:

    A good thing about my not being Christian? I don’t have to love my fucking enemy.

    This is the rest of why I come here. Other than the pie.

  256. JD says:

    A-fuckin-men

  257. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – There will be pie? The Lefturd protesters have arrived then I take it.

  258. bh says:

    And poorly shaded, outsized space-chick tits.

    Band name?

  259. Jeff G. says:

    Too much?

  260. JD says:

    I thought you showed admirable restraint.

  261. sdferr says:

    “Too much?”

    Only maybe insofar as it caused the image to be dragged up from wherever my careful memory had hidden it for unkeeping.

  262. Pablo says:

    I was about to link Bill Whittle’s “Tribes” and here’s all you can find anymore.

    We’re fucked, aren’t we?

  263. bh says:

    The part about his grandma feeling the extreme vigor of your present day skull-fucking way back in 1938?

    Maybe a bit much.

  264. Danger says:

    “Who dialed up and made you hall monitor?”

    Hall Monitors Rock!

  265. Pablo says:

    Too much?

    Not enough. Faster, please. We’ve got a wave to mount.

  266. Pablo says:

    The Wayback Machine is the best thing ever. Tribes. We’re gonna be OK!

  267. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – You mean a troll to stuff and mount. Speed is of essence, cranial rigor mortise has long since set in.

  268. Danger says:

    Pablo:

    Try this link:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/ejectejecteject/2009/10/07/tribes-2/

    An essay well worth the time required to read!

  269. bh says:

    I might have broken the hall monitor code with #266. In my defense, I didn’t yet know we had a seriously kick ass song.

  270. Abe Froman says:

    How was the DC leg of your trip, Danger?

  271. dicentra says:

    Shorter dicentra: The Cowboys suck.

    But I didn’t want to just come out and say it, in so many words.

    dicentra, must you always kick down the doors, and sweep all the testosterone aside and speak truth to lip twanging, slobber mouthed idiots.

    You just figgerd out my chronic spinsterhood. Give this man a cheroot.

    There will be pie? The Lefturd protesters have arrived then I take it.

    It’s always key lime and Jeff always inhales most of it before we’re in the door.

  272. Danger says:

    Pablo’s google-fu fighting is “fast as lightning”

  273. dicentra says:

    This elfie guy? Definitely a pink’un.

  274. Danger says:

    “How was the DC leg of your trip”

    Abe,

    DC was good but I missed having a seasoned tour guide to find the more interesting parts;)

    Next leg: Colorado at Christmas, Who’s in?

  275. dicentra says:

    Remember that part where I said that you always lose bone and muscle mass in null grav?

    Well

  276. Danger says:

    “I didn’t yet know we had a seriously kick ass song”

    bh,

    There is much to learn about the hall-monitoring my young Padawan.

  277. Random B. Frank says:

    A good thing about my being a Congressman?

    I adore the free enemas.

  278. sdferr says:

    “…much to learn…”

    Like flipping books out of dweebs hands without their knowing whodunnit. Schmoozing with the cute girls while on duty without getting caught. Taking a pull on a flask of vodka, ditto. Catching a quick cig out back but having plenty of tic-tacs to cover the smell.

  279. bh says:

    True, Danger. For instance, pants. At all times apparently.

  280. sdferr says:

    “pants”

    Most important when deepfrying bh.

  281. Danger says:

    I’d say that sounds like the voice of experience.
    It seems sdferr has been holding out on us bh.

  282. guinsPen says:

    “Trousers,” with a freshly pressed crease we can all admire.

  283. bh says:

    So sdferr has a fancy pair of pants he likes to deepfry. Well, la tee da!

    I’m not impressed.

  284. bh says:

    That’s just weird, btw.

  285. sdferr says:

    First we dip the pants in a vat of cheesecurd, then into flour-egg-milk-salt-bakingpowder batter, only then into the hot fat. Careful with the spattering oil though, it burns burny awful where the pants aren’t.

  286. bh says:

    It’d be cool if Jeff deleted all of the comments leading up to #288 and then left it there by its lonesome.

  287. Abe Froman says:

    The guy deep fries pants, how easily embarrassed do you think he is?

  288. sdferr says:

    ‘Bareassed? While frying pants? Are you nuts kwazy?

  289. geoffb says:

    Trousers? I have no trousers.

  290. Danger says:

    Ok thats a night for me but just to recap what we learned today.

    Outlawism is spreading
    President Bush is (still) a class act.
    Baracky mostly skipped class to smoke weed.
    Our lefty visitors are more than a tad disengenuous
    Space travel is tough on muscle mass but good for chick’s tits.
    The Cowboys suck
    Free key lime pie at Jeff’s (if you can beat him through the door)
    Oh and
    Pants when you deep fry!

  291. geoffb says:

    Bareassed? No prob. Just wear a shop apron and always face the oil.

  292. bh says:

    Outlawism is spreading
    President Bush is (still) a class act.
    Baracky mostly skipped class to smoke weed.
    Our lefty visitors are more than a tad disengenuous
    Space travel is tough on muscle mass but good for chick’s tits.

    The Cowboys suck
    Free key lime pie at Jeff’s (if you can beat him through the door)
    Oh and
    Pants when you deep fry!

    Yep, that’s a pretty good summary, Danger.

  293. sdferr says:

    Damn federalists.

  294. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I just hope dicentra isn’t going to start in on the shrinkage jokes again.

  295. BJTex says:

    So, yes, I had to go to bed early to deal with the therapeutic issues. That’s why I didn’t see Jeff’s #256 until this morning.

    Which means why I postponed the standing (somewhat whobbly) up and clapping and cheering and (thankfully to my wife) whispering damn, yea! It’s been a while but that was one of the best moments of inspired writing and pointed troll pounding I can remember.

    Bravo!

  296. LTC John says:

    You” actually became sickened by the war about the same time that most people did, somewhere around 2004, but you had to pretend to support it for the next four years, because there was no goddamn way you were gonna admit to them damn libruls that they were right all along.”

    Wrong, twice wrong, actually. “libruls” were not right all along (ie. see Harry Reid “we lost”, Obama’s rant against the surge, the generalized lEftist “we are just making more terrorists”, etc.) And sickened? If anyone had reason to be “sickened” it would have been me – I spent more than two years away from my family fighting “the war” 2004-2005 and 2007-2008… but no worries, you will always have mcgruder here to tell you how it was a thousand Kasserine Passes bad.

  297. guinsPen says:

    How was the DC leg… ?

    Gammy.

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