How many BOP’s not failing from this manufacturer — there are others, of course — 22,000 plus? And one failed, along with any number of other system failures and poor decisions taken, that one in the hands of BP, which is coming to light as a poorly managed operation? But we’re to pretend that nothing out there in the Gulf is safe. Bollocks.
U.S. judge on Tuesday overturned the Obama administration’s six-month ban on deepwater drilling, complicating its efforts to improve oil industry safety after the worst oil spill in U.S. history.*
this part from that same article is sort of what you need to knwo I guess:
A co-chairman of the commission, William Reilly, told the New York Times that the panel would not hold its first formal meeting until mid-July at the earliest, likely delaying delivery of its final report into next year.
Reilly said it was unlikely that the panel would recommend lifting the moratorium before it completed its report.
I don’t know that we know the BOP failed per se unless we take BP’s point of view that a BOP is a “failsafe mechanism” … it may not have been designed to contend with the abuse BP’s shoddy well design inflicted on it.
Per se can count for something, sure, but the bottom line is that the valves didn’t shut and still haven’t, whatever the cause of the ‘not shutting’ may finally be determined to be. The point however, is that none of that is presumptively attributable to other drillers with other rigs in other places.
you are absolutely correct… and I don’t really even think it’s BP’s fault necessarily either… or the MMS people. I think there’s a very particular loser what called the shots on this. He has a very particular name I think.
so the market is saying they think there’s a chance that president bumblefuck might win his appeal… for the case decide today thugmerica’s primary strategy was to get the decision delayed.
But I imagine they’ll not want the appeals court to be particularly dilatory. Or not. We’ll see but it seems likely we’ll have a line drawn under this really very soon.
The administration’s appeal of the ruling seems likely to ensure that the moratorium will stay in place for the time being – at least until the 5th Circuit determines whether they will hear the case and/or uphold or change the ruling. Indeed, it is not beyond the realm of reason that the appeals process could be dragged out at least until the administration is satisfied that the 33 wells where drilling has been put on halt, are sufficiently safe.
but remember – the environmental activists president bumblefuck appointed to decide the fate of offshore drilling and the thousands and thousands of people that it employs have no intention of meeting anytime soon to decide if drilling is “sufficiently safe” and that they have said they don’t expect to have an answer this year.
I hear ya, I’d like to see the decision too, though not so much that I’m going to spend a heck of a lot of time digging for it. I’ll keep my eyes peeled though.
Something is tugging at me that this is a political issue, as opposed to a legal issue, no matter how much I disagree with it. Nothing to keep them from being honest in their politics, nor arbitrary or capricious. Hence, my wonder as to what the actual legal issue is. And fuck you, Joe.
In his ruling, Judge Feldman said the moratorium “does not seem to be fact-specific” and did not account for the safety records of the many companies that operate in the Gulf.
“Are all airplanes a danger because one was?” the judge wrote. “All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines? That sort of thinking seems heavy-handed, and rather overbearing.”*
Facts? A perception based reality requires no facts.
Heavy handed and overbearing? Well, as The Won is fond of telling us, “We won.”
JD, does a political decision that impacts people’s livelihoods become a legal decision? It sounds as though the decision by the WH kept people from operating businesses that had nothing to do with the broken rig. As the suit was brought by the injured parties trying to get their lives on track, that sounds like it turns a political decision into a legal one.
Much to the government’s discomfort and this Court’s uneasiness, the Summary also states that “the recommendations contained in this report have been peer-reviewed by seven experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering.” As the plaintiffs, and the experts themselves, pointedly observe, this statement was misleading. The experts charge it was a “misrepresentation.” It was factually incorrect. Although the experts agreed with the safety recommendations contained in the body of the main Report, five of the National Academy experts and three of the other experts have publicly stated that they “do not agree with the six month blanket moratorium” on floating drilling.
Clint – imagine if the MFM reported on his golf and concerts and the rest the way they did Bush, or if Bush’s spokesliar said it was good for the country if he golfed during a crisis.
Ernst – meya has no point. She is just spewing nonsense.
Your service to the glorious collective has been most gratifying for the central committee to see.
However, the Politburo would like to remind you that during your march towards the shining collectivist future, it is important to keep some small number of the proletariat working in order to keep the lights on in party members homes, and to keep the Socialist plantation Slaves idle yet angry.
In other words: open the drilling back up, dumbass.
Its been argued that MMS was allowing unsafe shit to go on in this well. I don’t see why other wells would not also have that same problem with that same MMS.
Of course she’s spewing nonsense. I just thought that it was hella funny nonsense that her case for stopping the drilling is that the government fucked up.
Fortunately, as a government drone with no measured responsibilities, meya is able to maintain her fantastic delusions without ze harsh intrusion of realty zat would ensue should she haf ze misfortune to get a real job.
Und she hates he father who never loved her… blah, blah…etc…etc…
What could MMS have done to prevent what happened? Nothing. Some loser at BP screwed up and lost control of a well what was all but put to bed. You can’t regulate stupid.
You can regulate stupid. It seems to me the left has proven that time and time again. Of course they have also proven it doesn’t mean what they think it means and that the attempt has unintended consequences for the stupid and smart alike.
The federal judge who overturned Barack Obama’s offshore drilling moratorium reported owning stock in numerous companies involved in the offshore oil industry — including Transocean http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100622/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2771
The judge owned stock in Transocean, as well as five other companies that are either directly or indirectly involved in the offshore drilling business. Judge Feldman also owned between $15,000 and $50,000 in notes offered by Ocean Energy, Inc., a company that offers “concept design and manufacturing design of submersible drilling rigs,”
Judge Feldman did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
The untold story of the spill is that BP chose to focus on politics instead of their core business. They bought lots of DC access and painted themselves GREEN in preparation for the biggest grift since Marx wrote that awful term paper: Cap & Trade.
The executives at BP did the math and ascertained that they should forget that dirty oil that just powered everything when the really big money was going to be in trading phony credits on an invisible gas that plants eat.
The rest was tragic and predictable; employees at BP did what employees always do and read the signals coming from headquarters. The signals all told them that BP was ‘going government’ and that they should became more concerned with bureaucratic timetables and rig per diems than yucky old drilling safety.
In the harsh world of puching holes in the earth, the loss of focus is one of the 5 deadly sins, and true to form people died.
But this is one of those murders where the guys that set it up will never do a day in jail and are probably sitting in a four star restaurant calculating the odds that this crisis will move Cap & Scam forward over an impetuous Chablis.
That is when they’re not debating color selections on their bespoke Maserati coupe. I mean, it’s not like THEY won’t be able to afford the gas, suckers.
It’s really evil and cowardly I think for British Pussies to let president bumblefuck coerce a $100 million dollar fig leaf what won’t even begin to cover the economic damage wrought by his destruction of the offshore drilling industry in America.
All I can say is that it sure is a good thing that no congressmen or senators own stock in companies they regulate, and that spouses of congressmen and senators are banned from employment with same because that could lead to corruption of our noble public servants!
It’s not surprising that Feldman, who is a judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, has invested in the offshore drilling business — an Associated Press investigation found earlier this month that more than half the federal judges in the districts affected by the BP spill have financial ties to the oil and gas industry.
If I didn’t know better, I’d be tempted to say that judges save money for their retirement.
The White House immediately promised to appeal the ruling, the process of which could take longer than the moratorium itself. And even if that ruling were to come within the six-month period, Uhlmer notes that the Minerals Management Service could effectively maintain the moratorium by not providing approval for new drilling, or by simply canceling permits.*
president bumblefuck is determined to throw tens of thousands out of work and there’s not shit anyone can do about it
Here’s an investment that congress has decided thatyou should invest in… Fannie and Freddie tab is $146B and rising.
You and your children’s children will be penniless at retirement, but you will have exactly the amount of health that Obamacare bureaucrats decide you need based on your usefulness to the collective.
And as an addendum, the funny thing is, BP IS the villain, just not for the reasons the press is telling the public. Maybe the press is afraid the BP/Green connection is going to come to light. Imagine when it turns out this polluting monstrosity of a BRITISH company was actually going to scam the american people. Next thing you know, it will come out Al Gore is full of shit about global warming and was cheating on his wife.
#17 JD: While the moratarium decision may have been political, administrative agencies cannot act arbitrally and capriciously. No – I am not kidding. I am not at work right now that I can cite all of the state and federal court decisions regarding review of administrative agency decisions, but phrases such as ‘just and reasonable’, ‘supported by competent, substantive, and material evidence’, and ‘not being arbritrary and capricious’ (with the various Courts explaining and citing to what that all means) are well known with lawyers (like me!) who work with administrative agencies.
I have not done much research into this Gulf Drilling Shut-Down, but if it was done for a safety review and there is no sign of any safety review being conducted, and there are leases to drill that have lease-fees being paid without any indication when the lease-holder can exercise that property right then the Federal Government has a problem. Administratively (the easiest apple any court will grab at) they are acting arbritarily and capriciously – there is no system or order to what they are doing, it is just an exercise in whim. Legally, (the part that no court wants to address), there is a property right that the Federal Government is preventing the lessees’ from exercising. And that goes right to the Constitutional question of seizing property with out due process of law. Which is where no court wants to go because that just calls for Circuit Court, and Supreme Court review. (And that usually means the lower Court is told to re-run the trial again with this upper court instruction in mind, and those are the big, long cases that take up a lot of room on the docket. And it isn’t if you don’t have a lot to do without that!) And then it all goes back up the Appellate chain before anyone gets a good night’s sleep.
Yes, yes, yes. I know everyone should be honored to get all of this done in a constitutionally correct manner. And I also know everyone involved is a human, and gets the utter deep soul near homicidal mania hatred for certain cases, and certain issues that keep coming up or being sent back again and again and agian, and you have seen this appellant bring the same claim before twice and argued it all out and this time you pray that the Appellate Court will actually issue a published opinion so that there is a definitive answer on this level.
Pardon me…I was ranting again.
BTW – the pub is playing ‘Fox on the Run’. I now am tossed back to age ten. Which isn’t so bad, now that I consider it.
Also as an addendum to my addendum, I’m fairly certain there are investment programs into which a judge can safely invest, as the actual investments are part of a package and if not disclosed individually, the judge is not considered bias. Ie if he doesn’t know the stock will tank, he’s off the hook on recusal.
I am advocating going heavy into Euros. That is a currency with a future. Between that and some Chrysler Bonds you will sleep soundly knowing that governments and the wise men that run them are in charge of your future.
What I do? : I have my money in canned goods, Smith & Wesson, and bottled water.
Haven’t read all the way throught the thread yet, but Happy? BP. while in a way IS at fault for the blowout? There are MANY other companies involved in this shit.
Since y’all are a new convert to the left, (Pussy or drugs, inquiring minds want to know) Some of your faves are there!! Halliburton amongst them. Look it up dude!!
“How could a judge on the government payroll rule fairly on a case in which the government is involved?”
Ever hear of this? It helps with that.
Article III, Sec 1:
“The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.”
General Electric made their bones stealing Tesla’s alternating current. One of those fun facts that you can only find via the late night fare on the History Channel. That’s how your Apple laptops get charged, trolls, in case you thought it was magic flowers that made them able to download porn.
And now Mr. Immelt, the amoral President of GE, has decided to carry the corporate graft banner forward in the service of Obama’s ‘Brave New World’, one that looks suspiciously like the ‘Afraid Old World’ that Maggie and Ronnie drove a stake through in the 80’s, by backing healthcare, Cap and Trade, and anything else that will fatten the coffers of the multi-nationals.
And the trolls all applaud the multi-nationals that have their hearts in the right places and their morals far, far away.
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar says he will issue a new order imposing a moratorium on deepwater drilling after a federal judge struck down the existing one.
Salazar said in a statement Tuesday evening that the new order will contain additional information making clear why the six-month drilling pause was necessary in the wake of the Gulf oil spill. The judge in New Orleans who struck down the moratorium earlier in the day complained there wasn’t enough justification for it.
Salazar pointed to indications of inadequate safety precautions by industry on deepwater wells. He said he would issue a new order in the coming days showing that a moratorium is needed.
The White House also is appealing the judge’s ruling.*
wow. When the bumblefuck president of thugmerica wants to throw people out of work he doesn’t fuck around does he?
What amuses me about all this is what Mr. Immelt (among others) must be thinking about now.
R. A. Heinlein described what he called the “business” politician, the most outstanding characteristic of whom is predictability. Business politicians may be honest or not, but if bought they stay that way.
What Obama is demonstrating is that all the people who thought they’d bought something got nothing. The way BP and other interested parties thought it was going to work is that, having strongly supported Obama and the Democrats, they’d be able to go ahead with their business so long as they provided a fig-leaf of allegiance to the declared Doctrine. What they’re finding out is that their “campaign contributions” bought them nothing. Some of them are redoubling their efforts to stay on message, in the hope that business politics will continue as usual. Others, like the oil companies now busily uprooting pipes from the Gulf sea bed and updating their charts of the southwestern Atlantic, have decided to cut their losses. The United States is just a bad bet for almost anything. The laws and regulations have metastasized and infiltrated all the organs; the cancer is inoperable; prognosis: poor.
This ruling will be lots of fun (and billable hours) for the lawyers involved. Its total impact on the actual situation, from the oil spilling out of the pipe (and, soon, from the seabed around) to sales at the stop&rob in downtown Opelousas, LA, will be negligible to nonexistent.
Regards,
Ric
(who occasionally goes to Burger King for Internet access)
So speaking of what judges can or cannot do evidently this judge decided that Gerald Walpin wasn’t really fired when he thought he was. Or something like that.
Which one, bh? They have three. Tonight I had the salad with grilled chicken on top. If you add grilled chicken, cheese, and a goodish glop of ranch dressing to a little lettuce, you can get the cholesterol count up to that of something like real food.
Regards,
Ric
(who has a car, again. ever changed the turn signal bulbs on a Buick Reatta?)
The classic, Ric. Chicken, mayo, lettuce. Though that one with marinara and cheese sounds pretty good.
The options might be regional, I’m not sure. My real favorite has sliced up bratwurst and brown mustard instead of lettuce. It’s served with a side of Schlitz in a tiny plastic replica of a grain elevator.
Was there something in the law that said the suit couldn’t be brought until 60 days had passed from the issuance of the order? If so, it’s another 60 days before the new one can be challenged? And so on, and so on, time out of time.
You aren’t far off, happyfeet. To make a Reatta, take the back seats out of a Riviera, then shrink the car to half size while keeping all the gadgets. It’s the first car I’ve ever owned where changing the turn signal bulbs started out with a floor jack.
No Klein bottles. Klein bottles would be useful.
That’s OK. It goes down the road, it has an air conditioner which will work better once I jack up Virgil to do it right, and the turn signals now work. Most of the controls are on a green-on-black CRT in the center, and you have to slap Pac-Man upside the haid oncet in a while to keep him working; the headliner and sun visors are missing, and if you brush your head against the wires in the roof they short and blow the “BODY” fuse. It cost $500, cash. It’ll cost another $100 or so to get out of the courthouse with the title and tags once I get the insurance ID card. Oh, and it came with four new Toyo Spectrum tires, and still has the original custom wheels and covers. I reckon I need to get myself a pair of green-plaid golf shorts, a hawaiian shirt, and a white straw fedora to complete the image.
I know the country is going to Hell, happy. I’m helping. The process being unstoppable at this point, the thing to do is extort everything I can while there’s still something to extort. I may register Democratic.
Funny you should say that, as I just bought into a pig and met her this afternoon. She’s the cutest little thing and God willing, she’ll make a delightful Christmas ham.
Stronger safety measures should be put in place immediately. If all offshore drilling ceased, the local government would suffer dearly. Hope the area makes a swift recovery and that BP pays out to EVERYONE who has lost money, work or both. I fear that this whole mess will just raise gas prices for us consumers, we’ll see.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes that until investigations can determine why the spill happened, continued deepwater drilling exposes workers and the environment to “a danger that the president does not believe we can afford.”
How long do we have to keep pretending there was some mysterious cause? It’s really gay.
Feldman’s financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or funds that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that blew up. The report shows that most of his holdings were valued at less than $15,000; it did not provide specific amounts.
It was not clear whether Feldman still has any of the energy industry stocks. Recent court filings indicate he may no longer have Transocean stock. The 2008 report showed that he did not own any individual shares in big companies such as BP, which leased the rig that exploded, or ExxonMobil.
Feldman did not immediately respond to a request for more information about his current holdings.
Josh Reichert, managing director of the Pew Environment Group, said the ruling should be rescinded if the judge still has investments in companies that could benefit. “If Judge Feldman has any investments in oil and gas operators in the Gulf, it represents a flagrant conflict of interest,” Reichert said.
but the cocksucker in chief gets a pass on all the dirty sexy money BP gave to elect his trashy ass.
.There are literally 3600 oil rigs in the Gulf, this would have affected 30…30.. And all it says was until you can promise the American People that this will never happen again, and if it does, that you have a way to fix it, then you cant drill. I hope it happens 3 more times…then you all might get it… People are sheeple, Ignorant and blind…
unny you should say that, as I just bought into a pig and met her this afternoon. She’s the cutest little thing and God willing, she’ll make a delightful Christmas ham.
Did I tell you guys I got a dozen chickens? Egg layers. They’re kinda fun. Chickens are the gateway drug. Pigs or goats are next.
The way BP and other interested parties thought it was going to work is that, having strongly supported Obama and the Democrats, they’d be able to go ahead with their business so long as they provided a fig-leaf of allegiance to the declared Doctrine. What they’re finding out is that their “campaign contributions” bought them nothing. Some of them are redoubling their efforts to sta
I think a bit of Winston Churchill is called for here:
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
– Prime Minister Winston Churchill
BP was an appeaser. Feeding the crocodile the Dems. The crocodile decided it was simply expedient to eat them now. BP will bend over and say “Thank you sir, may I have another” most likely.
Don’t fret Carin, Joe should be along any minute with another inconsequential link that doesn’t address the extraconstitutional deal of zero regarding BP. Or maybe he can start another blog war through his usual shit-stirring™.
*I am advocating going heavy into Euros. That is a currency with a future. Between that and some Chrysler Bonds you will sleep soundly knowing that governments and the wise men that run them are in charge of your future.*]
Ok I have now official unsubscribed to your newsletter. =) I hope you didn’t take my comment as sarcasm – I was genuinely agreeing with you.
Personally, I’d like to see Repub (not blanton) find a way to explain to the American people that we need oil, we have to continue to produce oil and the idea solution to the problem of the future underwater spills is to drill in places above ground that are much easier to deal with, since you’re not dealing with a hostile working environment. Personally, I’d take Caribou covered in oil in Anwar over commercial fisherman in the Gulf states losing their livelihood and probably everything, just so the enviro wackos can save the planet.
The inevitable.
I like it though. Let them keep loudly arguing why this imbecilic moratorium is a good idea.
Why does Obama hate jobs?
rig and diamond are both down
Whole sector is, pretty much.
I say, “Hope”.
How many BOP’s not failing from this manufacturer — there are others, of course — 22,000 plus? And one failed, along with any number of other system failures and poor decisions taken, that one in the hands of BP, which is coming to light as a poorly managed operation? But we’re to pretend that nothing out there in the Gulf is safe. Bollocks.
U.S. judge on Tuesday overturned the Obama administration’s six-month ban on deepwater drilling, complicating its efforts to improve oil industry safety after the worst oil spill in U.S. history.*
this part from that same article is sort of what you need to knwo I guess:
Leadership.
Wait, does this help or “defend” BP? Then fuck the courts, man! BP must PAY!!
I don’t know that we know the BOP failed per se unless we take BP’s point of view that a BOP is a “failsafe mechanism” … it may not have been designed to contend with the abuse BP’s shoddy well design inflicted on it.
Per se can count for something, sure, but the bottom line is that the valves didn’t shut and still haven’t, whatever the cause of the ‘not shutting’ may finally be determined to be. The point however, is that none of that is presumptively attributable to other drillers with other rigs in other places.
you are absolutely correct… and I don’t really even think it’s BP’s fault necessarily either… or the MMS people. I think there’s a very particular loser what called the shots on this. He has a very particular name I think.
He’s going to be famous.
will thugmerica give BP the $100 million back what it ganked to pay moratorium salaries?
I always liked Marty Feldman. Now I have a new favorite judge.
so the market is saying they think there’s a chance that president bumblefuck might win his appeal… for the case decide today thugmerica’s primary strategy was to get the decision delayed.
But I imagine they’ll not want the appeals court to be particularly dilatory. Or not. We’ll see but it seems likely we’ll have a line drawn under this really very soon.
*decided* today I mean
Mr. bh’s link says this though…
but remember – the environmental activists president bumblefuck appointed to decide the fate of offshore drilling and the thousands and thousands of people that it employs have no intention of meeting anytime soon to decide if drilling is “sufficiently safe” and that they have said they don’t expect to have an answer this year.
Could someone explain how the court was able to overturn an essentially political decision?
The administration “acted” [LAT] “arbitrarily and capriciously in issuing the moratorium” [Feldman decision] works for me JD.
Arbitrarily and capriciously works for me, I was just trying to figure out what the legal issue was, from an honest person.
I hear ya, I’d like to see the decision too, though not so much that I’m going to spend a heck of a lot of time digging for it. I’ll keep my eyes peeled though.
Something is tugging at me that this is a political issue, as opposed to a legal issue, no matter how much I disagree with it. Nothing to keep them from being honest in their politics, nor arbitrary or capricious. Hence, my wonder as to what the actual legal issue is. And fuck you, Joe.
Here’s a link to a place to see the decision itself entire.
Judge: “You’re busted.”
The Black Knight: “But I’m invincible…it’s only a flesh wound…come back here and I’ll bite your legs off…let’s call it a draw.”
In his ruling, Judge Feldman said the moratorium “does not seem to be fact-specific” and did not account for the safety records of the many companies that operate in the Gulf.
“Are all airplanes a danger because one was?” the judge wrote. “All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines? That sort of thinking seems heavy-handed, and rather overbearing.” *
Facts? A perception based reality requires no facts.
Heavy handed and overbearing? Well, as The Won is fond of telling us, “We won.”
Welcome to the post-racial, post-partisan POTUS.
I cannot wait to hear the statement from Teh One about how bad this ruling is. Maybe a quote from Axelrod or Gibbs would top it all off.
Great ruling.
And J.D., fuck you too. But I like the ruling.
JD, does a political decision that impacts people’s livelihoods become a legal decision? It sounds as though the decision by the WH kept people from operating businesses that had nothing to do with the broken rig. As the suit was brought by the injured parties trying to get their lives on track, that sounds like it turns a political decision into a legal one.
But then, I’m just guessing.
The Marty Feldman joke flew right over my head at first.
I get that, Clint. I do. I was just trying to figure out the threshold legal issue.
That is a polite way to say not true.
JD, I don’t doubt you do. I’ve been reading long enough to know that much. It was more of a question for myself as well. I really was just guessing.
I’m enjoying seeing teh won face legal battles to his political decisions and losing. I look forward to more.
Meya – when we want your lies, we will … Never mind. Ain’t never gonna need your lies.
But it’s not the same MMS – the now-former head resigned. Or maybe she was fired. We’ll get back to you on that question.
Now, who wants to check out my sweet swing? I’ve been practicing just for this occasion.
Meya, your argument is that the Government was negligent?
Clint – imagine if the MFM reported on his golf and concerts and the rest the way they did Bush, or if Bush’s spokesliar said it was good for the country if he golfed during a crisis.
Ernst – meya has no point. She is just spewing nonsense.
Comrade Obama,
Your service to the glorious collective has been most gratifying for the central committee to see.
However, the Politburo would like to remind you that during your march towards the shining collectivist future, it is important to keep some small number of the proletariat working in order to keep the lights on in party members homes, and to keep the Socialist plantation Slaves idle yet angry.
In other words: open the drilling back up, dumbass.
Comrade Lenin
Its been argued that MMS was allowing unsafe shit to go on in this well. I don’t see why other wells would not also have that same problem with that same MMS.
PWNED
Send in the next bunch.
Of course she’s spewing nonsense. I just thought that it was hella funny nonsense that her case for stopping the drilling is that the government fucked up.
I can imagine that, but then, there’s that thing about two realities occupying the same space and time.
the Court is unable to divine or fathom a relationship between the findings and the immense scope of the moratorium
divine or fathom no less
If they’d wanted a divination, he should have gone to Bourbon St. and asked one of the Voodoo priests there.
Your world seems to consist primarily of illusions, meya.
Fortunately, as a government drone with no measured responsibilities, meya is able to maintain her fantastic delusions without ze harsh intrusion of realty zat would ensue should she haf ze misfortune to get a real job.
Und she hates he father who never loved her… blah, blah…etc…etc…
Zat vill be 100 Deutchmarks, meya, for ze analysis. Do not try to schtick me with some worthless ‘Ein-World’ Euros either!
Try to pay me vith some of that ‘Greek toilet paper’ und I vill show you zat some times a cigar is not just a cigar, liebchen!
What could MMS have done to prevent what happened? Nothing. Some loser at BP screwed up and lost control of a well what was all but put to bed. You can’t regulate stupid.
You can regulate stupid. It seems to me the left has proven that time and time again. Of course they have also proven it doesn’t mean what they think it means and that the attempt has unintended consequences for the stupid and smart alike.
The federal judge who overturned Barack Obama’s offshore drilling moratorium reported owning stock in numerous companies involved in the offshore oil industry — including Transocean
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100622/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2771
What a surprise!
Do you have some sort of a point, Jeff?
WTF do YOU think, genius?
The judge owned stock in Transocean, as well as five other companies that are either directly or indirectly involved in the offshore drilling business. Judge Feldman also owned between $15,000 and $50,000 in notes offered by Ocean Energy, Inc., a company that offers “concept design and manufacturing design of submersible drilling rigs,”
Judge Feldman did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
I think it’s up to the appeals court to hand president bumblefuck his ass now.
Why does Barry hate science and engineering hf? Do you reckon it’s the math?
if you look at that pdf that judge has a really kick-ass portfolio…
I think president bumblefuck hates science and engineering cause of these are pursuits what can be measured by results.
He’s very uncomfortable with that idea I think.
Jeff is saying that all judges who own stock should never be involved in a case in which they may have some kind of connection. No matter what.
The possibilities here are endless.
baracky flies mccrystal dies
Also it shouldn’t escape anyone’s notice that the stock of those companies fell today.
Judges invest in publicly traded companies? Madness!
I think they should only be able to invest in nail clippings and those little toys you get in cereal.
I think that if you have a point to make you should elucidate it, particularly if it pertains to the professional conduct of a federal judge.
That’s not the first steaming pile of shit a fly has landed on.
From the revolving bar at the Marriot Marquis. Times square USA.
The untold story of the spill is that BP chose to focus on politics instead of their core business. They bought lots of DC access and painted themselves GREEN in preparation for the biggest grift since Marx wrote that awful term paper: Cap & Trade.
The executives at BP did the math and ascertained that they should forget that dirty oil that just powered everything when the really big money was going to be in trading phony credits on an invisible gas that plants eat.
The rest was tragic and predictable; employees at BP did what employees always do and read the signals coming from headquarters. The signals all told them that BP was ‘going government’ and that they should became more concerned with bureaucratic timetables and rig per diems than yucky old drilling safety.
In the harsh world of puching holes in the earth, the loss of focus is one of the 5 deadly sins, and true to form people died.
But this is one of those murders where the guys that set it up will never do a day in jail and are probably sitting in a four star restaurant calculating the odds that this crisis will move Cap & Scam forward over an impetuous Chablis.
That is when they’re not debating color selections on their bespoke Maserati coupe. I mean, it’s not like THEY won’t be able to afford the gas, suckers.
How could a judge on the government payroll rule fairly on a case in which the government is involved?
The inability to use blockquotes or quotation marks reminds me of someone.
Do I smell paella?
It’s really evil and cowardly I think for British Pussies to let president bumblefuck coerce a $100 million dollar fig leaf what won’t even begin to cover the economic damage wrought by his destruction of the offshore drilling industry in America.
Jeff,
All I can say is that it sure is a good thing that no congressmen or senators own stock in companies they regulate, and that spouses of congressmen and senators are banned from employment with same because that could lead to corruption of our noble public servants!
What?
They DO?
Their spouses ARE?
Well, color me shocked!
No wonder they all retire rich…
From the suspected cat serenader’s link:
If I didn’t know better, I’d be tempted to say that judges save money for their retirement.
In the Eastern District of La? A professional with investments in oil and gas?
(pssst) (Jeff) (I bet he has some relatives that work in the oilfield) (check it out)
gov’t people are holy
president bumblefuck is determined to throw tens of thousands out of work and there’s not shit anyone can do about it
#60 – great, fine, thanks for that. I am not jealous at all… From a BOQ room at Camp Lincoln.
Dear Jeff,
Here’s an investment that congress has decided thatyou should invest in… Fannie and Freddie tab is $146B and rising.
You and your children’s children will be penniless at retirement, but you will have exactly the amount of health that Obamacare bureaucrats decide you need based on your usefulness to the collective.
So you got that going for you…
I agree with Mr. W and have subscribed to his newsletter.
#41: Poor SFAG. She can’t understand it when the serfs don’t shut up and put on their chains willingly.
OT: Obama’s signature.
And as an addendum, the funny thing is, BP IS the villain, just not for the reasons the press is telling the public. Maybe the press is afraid the BP/Green connection is going to come to light. Imagine when it turns out this polluting monstrosity of a BRITISH company was actually going to scam the american people. Next thing you know, it will come out Al Gore is full of shit about global warming and was cheating on his wife.
#17 JD: While the moratarium decision may have been political, administrative agencies cannot act arbitrally and capriciously. No – I am not kidding. I am not at work right now that I can cite all of the state and federal court decisions regarding review of administrative agency decisions, but phrases such as ‘just and reasonable’, ‘supported by competent, substantive, and material evidence’, and ‘not being arbritrary and capricious’ (with the various Courts explaining and citing to what that all means) are well known with lawyers (like me!) who work with administrative agencies.
I have not done much research into this Gulf Drilling Shut-Down, but if it was done for a safety review and there is no sign of any safety review being conducted, and there are leases to drill that have lease-fees being paid without any indication when the lease-holder can exercise that property right then the Federal Government has a problem. Administratively (the easiest apple any court will grab at) they are acting arbritarily and capriciously – there is no system or order to what they are doing, it is just an exercise in whim. Legally, (the part that no court wants to address), there is a property right that the Federal Government is preventing the lessees’ from exercising. And that goes right to the Constitutional question of seizing property with out due process of law. Which is where no court wants to go because that just calls for Circuit Court, and Supreme Court review. (And that usually means the lower Court is told to re-run the trial again with this upper court instruction in mind, and those are the big, long cases that take up a lot of room on the docket. And it isn’t if you don’t have a lot to do without that!) And then it all goes back up the Appellate chain before anyone gets a good night’s sleep.
Yes, yes, yes. I know everyone should be honored to get all of this done in a constitutionally correct manner. And I also know everyone involved is a human, and gets the utter deep soul near homicidal mania hatred for certain cases, and certain issues that keep coming up or being sent back again and again and agian, and you have seen this appellant bring the same claim before twice and argued it all out and this time you pray that the Appellate Court will actually issue a published opinion so that there is a definitive answer on this level.
Pardon me…I was ranting again.
BTW – the pub is playing ‘Fox on the Run’. I now am tossed back to age ten. Which isn’t so bad, now that I consider it.
link
Also as an addendum to my addendum, I’m fairly certain there are investment programs into which a judge can safely invest, as the actual investments are part of a package and if not disclosed individually, the judge is not considered bias. Ie if he doesn’t know the stock will tank, he’s off the hook on recusal.
Sweet’s “Fox On The Run”, youtube link.
baracky has bp conflicts no
Why thank you, bh.
The 1970’s were a very silly decade, weren’t they?
The visual evidence certainly argues that way, Mikey.
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Mr. Locke been gone a long time.
Dear Matt,
I am advocating going heavy into Euros. That is a currency with a future. Between that and some Chrysler Bonds you will sleep soundly knowing that governments and the wise men that run them are in charge of your future.
What I do? : I have my money in canned goods, Smith & Wesson, and bottled water.
I for one, welcome my new day-labor overlords, newrouter.
Haven’t read all the way throught the thread yet, but Happy? BP. while in a way IS at fault for the blowout? There are MANY other companies involved in this shit.
Since y’all are a new convert to the left, (Pussy or drugs, inquiring minds want to know) Some of your faves are there!! Halliburton amongst them. Look it up dude!!
“How could a judge on the government payroll rule fairly on a case in which the government is involved?”
Ever hear of this? It helps with that.
Article III, Sec 1:
“The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.”
How could a congressman legislate fairly when the government has taken control of…um…everything.
probably best not to think about it too hard.
Because I promise you congress doesn’t.
There are MANY other companies involved in this shit.
I don’t think that’s the case… the only evidence we have of negligence so far points squarely at BP.
BP is not an oil company, they are a CO2 trader and are thus not responsible for any petrochemical based issues.
This is sworn to in an affadavit by the Democrats who once bought, stay bought.
nice misdirection
Ever hear of this? It helps with that.
Hoohaw the wise shall decide what is enough thankyouverymuch. The idea that anyone, let alone judges should want to have investments is just not done.
but the point is I guess more that BP is the only company giving thugmerica political cover
i like ge they push windmills. bird criminals
General Electric made their bones stealing Tesla’s alternating current. One of those fun facts that you can only find via the late night fare on the History Channel. That’s how your Apple laptops get charged, trolls, in case you thought it was magic flowers that made them able to download porn.
And now Mr. Immelt, the amoral President of GE, has decided to carry the corporate graft banner forward in the service of Obama’s ‘Brave New World’, one that looks suspiciously like the ‘Afraid Old World’ that Maggie and Ronnie drove a stake through in the 80’s, by backing healthcare, Cap and Trade, and anything else that will fatten the coffers of the multi-nationals.
And the trolls all applaud the multi-nationals that have their hearts in the right places and their morals far, far away.
wow. When the bumblefuck president of thugmerica wants to throw people out of work he doesn’t fuck around does he?
Ah, so the first one was arbitrary and capricious. Wonder what engineers and experts have been bought off to go along with the new orders?
The man simply can’t stand employed people.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/06/22/obamas-energy-secretary-in-2007-bp-is-going-to-help-save-the-world-or-something/
What amuses me about all this is what Mr. Immelt (among others) must be thinking about now.
R. A. Heinlein described what he called the “business” politician, the most outstanding characteristic of whom is predictability. Business politicians may be honest or not, but if bought they stay that way.
What Obama is demonstrating is that all the people who thought they’d bought something got nothing. The way BP and other interested parties thought it was going to work is that, having strongly supported Obama and the Democrats, they’d be able to go ahead with their business so long as they provided a fig-leaf of allegiance to the declared Doctrine. What they’re finding out is that their “campaign contributions” bought them nothing. Some of them are redoubling their efforts to stay on message, in the hope that business politics will continue as usual. Others, like the oil companies now busily uprooting pipes from the Gulf sea bed and updating their charts of the southwestern Atlantic, have decided to cut their losses. The United States is just a bad bet for almost anything. The laws and regulations have metastasized and infiltrated all the organs; the cancer is inoperable; prognosis: poor.
This ruling will be lots of fun (and billable hours) for the lawyers involved. Its total impact on the actual situation, from the oil spilling out of the pipe (and, soon, from the seabed around) to sales at the stop&rob in downtown Opelousas, LA, will be negligible to nonexistent.
Regards,
Ric
(who occasionally goes to Burger King for Internet access)
You’ve earned a chicken sandwich.
So speaking of what judges can or cannot do evidently this judge decided that Gerald Walpin wasn’t really fired when he thought he was. Or something like that.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/walpin-defeat-means-president-can-fire-igs-at-will-96714994.html
Which one, bh? They have three. Tonight I had the salad with grilled chicken on top. If you add grilled chicken, cheese, and a goodish glop of ranch dressing to a little lettuce, you can get the cholesterol count up to that of something like real food.
Regards,
Ric
(who has a car, again. ever changed the turn signal bulbs on a Buick Reatta?)
Nope. Does it involve a Klein bottle Ric?
bigbooner – Yet another example of Barcky shitting on the law.
The classic, Ric. Chicken, mayo, lettuce. Though that one with marinara and cheese sounds pretty good.
The options might be regional, I’m not sure. My real favorite has sliced up bratwurst and brown mustard instead of lettuce. It’s served with a side of Schlitz in a tiny plastic replica of a grain elevator.
hi Ric you were missed everything is terrible in America
I think i had one of those cars for awhile it was large… nevermind it was a Riviera long story
Wait, so Ken Salazar just decided he was going to sign an order to overrule the court’s order?
SCOTUS FIGHT!!!*
Was there something in the law that said the suit couldn’t be brought until 60 days had passed from the issuance of the order? If so, it’s another 60 days before the new one can be challenged? And so on, and so on, time out of time.
I have my money in canned goods, Smith & Wesson, and bottled water.
Please forgive me for being gross, but if you want to stock up on some good barterable goods, you prolly can’t go wrong with boxes of tampons.
No really. Them’ll be like gold bullion after we disappear over the event horizon.
Are you new, Hoohaw? Because I like the cut of your jib. Yessiree, I do like the cut of your jib.
Also, this Matt fellow has potential. As what, I don’t know, but potential indeedee do.
And newsrouter, I thought you were kidding about the walking-on-water thing. Thought I was gonna see me a rockin’ ‘shop or summat.
That’ll teach me to underestimate the Narcissist in Chief.
You aren’t far off, happyfeet. To make a Reatta, take the back seats out of a Riviera, then shrink the car to half size while keeping all the gadgets. It’s the first car I’ve ever owned where changing the turn signal bulbs started out with a floor jack.
No Klein bottles. Klein bottles would be useful.
That’s OK. It goes down the road, it has an air conditioner which will work better once I jack up Virgil to do it right, and the turn signals now work. Most of the controls are on a green-on-black CRT in the center, and you have to slap Pac-Man upside the haid oncet in a while to keep him working; the headliner and sun visors are missing, and if you brush your head against the wires in the roof they short and blow the “BODY” fuse. It cost $500, cash. It’ll cost another $100 or so to get out of the courthouse with the title and tags once I get the insurance ID card. Oh, and it came with four new Toyo Spectrum tires, and still has the original custom wheels and covers. I reckon I need to get myself a pair of green-plaid golf shorts, a hawaiian shirt, and a white straw fedora to complete the image.
I know the country is going to Hell, happy. I’m helping. The process being unstoppable at this point, the thing to do is extort everything I can while there’s still something to extort. I may register Democratic.
Regards,
Ric
Good God. Why is Michael Jackson on the TV?
Regards,
Ric
Good God.
Michael Jackson on the TV
Please, don’t EVAR juxtapose those two entities again. My lightning rod is in for repairs.
OT: I enjoyed the ducks, di. They’re cute. And then they’re tasty. Circle of life.
OT is a silly tag past a certain time. I am silly.
Funny you should say that, as I just bought into a pig and met her this afternoon. She’s the cutest little thing and God willing, she’ll make a delightful Christmas ham.
G’night, all.
Regards,
Ric
‘Night, Ric.
That sounds perfect, Pablo. Take a few pictures of her now. Put them all around the table at Christmas. Guaranteed doubling of the leftovers.
goodnight ric extort like the dickens mister
Stronger safety measures should be put in place immediately. If all offshore drilling ceased, the local government would suffer dearly. Hope the area makes a swift recovery and that BP pays out to EVERYONE who has lost money, work or both. I fear that this whole mess will just raise gas prices for us consumers, we’ll see.
How long do we have to keep pretending there was some mysterious cause? It’s really gay.
but the cocksucker in chief gets a pass on all the dirty sexy money BP gave to elect his trashy ass.
Nice.
Pew Environment Group… would that be a lefty Soros entity? Why, yes it would.
.There are literally 3600 oil rigs in the Gulf, this would have affected 30…30.. And all it says was until you can promise the American People that this will never happen again, and if it does, that you have a way to fix it, then you cant drill. I hope it happens 3 more times…then you all might get it… People are sheeple, Ignorant and blind…
“Hoohaw the wise shall decide what is enough thankyouverymuch. ”
The founders put that in Article III to try to help make judges independent of the other 2 branches. Wise? I’d say so.
. I hope it happens 3 more times…then you all might get it…
I bet you cheered-on those Iraqi death counts too.
unny you should say that, as I just bought into a pig and met her this afternoon. She’s the cutest little thing and God willing, she’ll make a delightful Christmas ham.
Did I tell you guys I got a dozen chickens? Egg layers. They’re kinda fun. Chickens are the gateway drug. Pigs or goats are next.
The way BP and other interested parties thought it was going to work is that, having strongly supported Obama and the Democrats, they’d be able to go ahead with their business so long as they provided a fig-leaf of allegiance to the declared Doctrine. What they’re finding out is that their “campaign contributions” bought them nothing. Some of them are redoubling their efforts to sta
I think a bit of Winston Churchill is called for here:
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
– Prime Minister Winston Churchill
BP was an appeaser. Feeding the crocodile the Dems. The crocodile decided it was simply expedient to eat them now. BP will bend over and say “Thank you sir, may I have another” most likely.
I hate it when I’m at PW all by myself.
Don’t fret Carin, Joe should be along any minute with another inconsequential link that doesn’t address the extraconstitutional deal of zero regarding BP. Or maybe he can start another blog war through his usual shit-stirring™.
*I am advocating going heavy into Euros. That is a currency with a future. Between that and some Chrysler Bonds you will sleep soundly knowing that governments and the wise men that run them are in charge of your future.*]
Ok I have now official unsubscribed to your newsletter. =) I hope you didn’t take my comment as sarcasm – I was genuinely agreeing with you.
Personally, I’d like to see Repub (not blanton) find a way to explain to the American people that we need oil, we have to continue to produce oil and the idea solution to the problem of the future underwater spills is to drill in places above ground that are much easier to deal with, since you’re not dealing with a hostile working environment. Personally, I’d take Caribou covered in oil in Anwar over commercial fisherman in the Gulf states losing their livelihood and probably everything, just so the enviro wackos can save the planet.
Excellent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gP3OG8oPmE