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from the “Heretics must be punished” files, 2: “Liberals gin up their engines for kamikaze missions”

Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

Chris Stirewalt, Washington Examiner:

Pundits on the Left are suggesting that the reason Massachusetts voters rejected Martha Coakley — aside from her personal failings as a candidate – is that Democrats in Washington failed to pursue a sufficiently liberal agenda.

As Sen. John Kerry and the other leaders of the Massachusetts Democratic Party were still standing on stage, jaws slack and eyes vacant, commentators Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC said that the vote was proof that President Obama and his team had to act urgently to jam his health care bill through Congress by any parliamentary means necessary. Maddow, astonishingly, said it had to be done in 30 days.

Over at the Boston Globe, which was the only organization to have a worse showing in the election than the Coakley campaign, editorial writers pretended that Republican Scott Brown’s election had been a certainty for some time. If they thought so, they certainly hadn’t shared it with their readers.

If you relied only on the Globe for your news, the last poll you read about before Election Day was the one from Jan. 6 from the paper and the University of New Hampshire that showed Coakley winning in a 17-point walk over Republican Scott Brown.

The Globe editorial, having dismissed Brown’s win as an event as common as the start of the maple syrup harvest, then picked up the argument that now was the moment for a kamikaze mission to pass the Democrats’ health plan.

“Both houses of Congress have already passed credible reform bills. At this point, President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should bring the legislative process to a close by pushing House members to pass the Senate version,” counseled the Globe. “Any necessary amendments can be addressed in the budget bill, which isn’t subject to the filibuster.”

Well, sure, except that the revolt many have been predicted for weeks in the Democratic caucus is alive. Having seen the roof cave in on Coakley, House and Senate Democrats are not eager to run into the same building.

Plus, as the Massachusetts vote showed, there is plenty for both liberals and conservatives to dislike in the legislation currently hanging in the limbo of a secret House-Senate conference.

The process was crummy and yielded a product that is a monument to the dangers of crafting legislation like a fire sale auction for unions and lobbyists.

[…]

The president’s promise that he can bail out Democrats who take political risks on behalf of his agenda is as void as his pledge to hold the health-care negotiations on C-SPAN – a relic of an earlier, very brief era in American politics.

In the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the president had a 48 percent job approval rating and only 30 percent of voters gave Obama good marks for changing Washington. This explains why a scant 52 percent of voters still have favorable view of the president personally. A year ago it was 66 percent.

While the Boston Globe’s hilariously out-of-touch editorial and Chris Matthew’s dribbling about the need to “get results” may not be good arguments for Democrats blowing themselves up to pass a health bill, there is something of value in their positions.

Americans expect their leaders to have some core positions that are inviolate and then work around the edges on everything else. They want pragmatic idealists. What else would you expect from a nation that buys low-carb bread and low-fat ice cream?

By fighting for a win on health care instead of a good bill, Obama favored expedience, not pragmatism. Now that the win will not materialize, he looks cynical and ineffective at the same time.

If he wants to rehabilitate himself with voters this year, Obama will need to figure out what he stands for other than his own political victories.

Well, to borrow from the venerable Wayne Campbell, as if.

— though that whole “pragmatic idealist” thing sounds vaguely useful, if not a mite familiar

169 Replies to “from the “Heretics must be punished” files, 2: “Liberals gin up their engines for kamikaze missions””

  1. JHo says:

    Once I saw Maddow utterly contradict herself in the space of twenty seconds on late nite teevee. To the host’s nodding approval.

    At times like these, failure can’t help but reveal itself. Pathological dishonesty is the tires on the big yellow leftist bus.

  2. The Lost Dog says:

    Hardy-Har-Har.

    How cool was it to see Obummah blame FRICKIN’ BUSH for Scott Browns win?

    Jeebus. I used to think that Obummah was fairly intelligent. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

    He is a now revealed flaming asshole who STILL doesn’t give a shit about the electorate.

    Go, O!

    If he keeps this up, there will be 100 Republican Senators and 435 Republican House members.

    He is quite the moron, in spite of being “so intelligent”. Obummah’s motto is: “Fuck you, you stupid assholes”.

    Don’t stop now, O! Everybody in this country loves it when you drop a steamer on their dinner table….

  3. EJ D says:

    You can’t cure stupid.

  4. McGehee says:

    The next time I apply for a job, I want Obama campaigning for the other guy. I’ll be running the company in a week.

  5. BJTex says:

    Listening to these neo-fascists contort themselves trying to justify a spanking reminds me of the making of pretzels.

    Twisty!

    Keep it up, Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Matthews, Maddow, Olberdouch! The chasm awaits in 2010. There are no parachutes.

  6. newrouter says:

    If you can’t impress them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit

  7. Be fair, Darleen, the Globe was in front of this story all the way…

  8. newrouter says:

    the baraky is going to help harry like he helped martha:

    Obama Will Travel to Nevada for Reid Next Month

  9. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    The fire sale is going to be for the computers and furniture at the Boston Globe in about 3 months.

    Liberal progressives now either expect Americans to believe they all have some type of collective Alzheimers (what? what’d we do? I don’t remember saying that), or they have all officially become Python’s Black Night.

    I think it’s the latter.

    Hey Maddow.

    Your arms’ off.

  10. Lazarus Long says:

    The NYT editorial was a repeat of the “this was not a referendum on the Obama administration”

    The comment I left:

    Nice editorial.

    Have you ever seen a cat trying to cover up on linoleum?

    It hasn’t been approved for publication.

  11. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    @ #8

    newrouter,

    I think Barry & Harry are actually just going to Vegas to smack down that new $1.9trillion in credit on red or black.

    Then dinner and a show.

    I hear there’s a theatrical version of Atlas Shrugged playing at the Bellagio.

  12. Lazarus Long says:

    I just ran across the poerfect quote to summarize the Democrat reaction to their stunning defeat in Mass.:

    “The people have spoken, the bastards.”

    -Dick Tuck

  13. Spiny Norman says:

    Lazarus Long

    The NYT editorial was a repeat of the “this was not a referendum on the Obama administration”

    Someone should tell the Slimes that the “Jedi mind trick” is not real.

  14. Lazarus Long says:

    poerfect

    That’s the Old English spelling.

  15. McGehee says:

    Someone should tell the Slimes that the “Jedi mind trick” is not real.

    OT, but this morning I woke up from a dream in which a D&D player was telling a Roman centurion, “These aren’t the druids you’re looking for.”

    I believe the DM was about to roll against the Jedi mind trick when I woke up.

  16. Lazarus Long says:

    I kinda like Steve Green’s idea.

    Since the reactionaries have dubbed the Right “Teabaggers”, we should call them “Handjobs”.

  17. Spiny Norman says:

    Kamakazi missions? Figures they’d double down on the stupid.

    What’s remarkable about the Dems’ blinkered pig-ignorance (or how how brain-dead they think the electorate is) is that they’re claiming that the spanking they got in 1994 was because they failed to pass HillaryCare.

  18. newrouter says:

    change you can believe in

    “I don’t think it’s possible to pass the Senate bill in the House,” Pelosi told reporters after a morning meeting with her caucus. “I don’t see the votes for it at this time.”

    link

  19. Slartibartfast says:

    Oh, that’s just perfect logic. Likewise, Obama was elected because conservatives thought that McCain wasn’t conservative enough.

    No, Obama and Brown were both elected because of mass defection of the moderates/Independents. I rather doubt you saw a whole lot of the far Right vote for Obama, and if you checked you’d see the far Left handing out illegal absentee ballots so that more people would vote for Coakley, rather than busily punching the Brown ticket at polling places.

  20. sdferr says:

    Dick Morris et al scored a win in USSC today. McCain-Feingold begins to crumble.

  21. JD says:

    This is how the leftists always respond. Marxism hasn’t failed, it has just not been tried hard enough.

  22. LBascom says:

    George Will:

    The 2008 elections gave liberals the curse of opportunity, and they have used it to reveal themselves ruinously. The protracted health-care debacle has highlighted this fact: Some liberals consider the legislation’s unpopularity a reason to redouble their efforts to inflict it on Americans who, such liberals think, are too benighted to understand that their betters know best. The essence of contemporary liberalism is the illiberal conviction that Americans, in their comprehensive incompetence, need minute supervision by government, which liberals believe exists to spare citizens the torture of thinking and choosing.

  23. JD says:

    Axelrod’s interviews were jaw-dropping. Brown did not win because of healthcare, it wasn’t even an issue because Brown did not run ads about it, and didja know Brown supported RomneyCare? Plus, Axelrod reminds me of a mole.

  24. sdferr says:

    More on the Citizens United v. FEC ruling.

  25. newrouter says:

    that’s a cruel thing to say about a mole

  26. Squid says:

    The dissenters said allowing corporate money to flood the political marketplace will corrupt democracy.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA! ‘Cuz things are so squeaky-clean right now!

    “We gotta keep the corporate money outta elections! Soros gets pissed when the playing field starts to level out…”

  27. sdferr says:

    For a narrower view of the looney left, see this Katarina van den Heuvel piece in the Wall Street Journal. It’s short, but packs a lot of crazy into it’s small space. The title gives a flavor: “Give Up On Post Partisanship“.

    Good idea Kats, drop the fakeyfake mask and show yourselves in your “New Clothes”.

  28. JHo says:

    From Will:

    Some liberals consider the legislation’s unpopularity a reason to redouble their efforts to inflict it on Americans who, such liberals think, are too benighted to understand that their betters know best.

    The backwards leap from liberty and self-actualization to tyranny and misery includes a decision to stop seeing government as the problem and start seeing it as the solution. Such idiocy springs from the notion that there’s nothing government can’t ruin that it and it alone can’t repair.

    This isn’t thought, this is psychosis. Among other places, it’s seen in all this shit about Republican responsibility to cede to creative Democrat problem-solving. Because the natural state of man is horrible failure and the only solution is statism. Because government, standing unique among free men, restorative market forces, and choice, is the only way to manage each of them. Because being by nature an intractable negative force, surely government can be trained to provide goods and services at rates and costs and outcomes that defy natural law itself.

    What kind of sheep believe this crap? This isn’t thought, this is psychosis, slathered over with all the loose moralese you’d expect it would take to conceal the inherent moral turpitude of State. No wonder Darleen’s outraged.

  29. Spiny Norman says:

    JHo,

    In the immortal words of then-House Speaker Jim Wright:

    W-w-we jus’ wanna heeelllp you.

    RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!!!
    .

    *from the Democratic Response™ to a Reagan speech (may have been a SOTU).

  30. LBascom says:

    Frank has on his thinking cap:

    what if in 2008 there was another party to vote for and teach the fat cat Republicans a lesson? Like what if there was a Libertarian Party — not just one full of crazies. They’d be like, “The Republicans are a bunch of fat cats ruining the country with special interests. Elect us and we’ll cut everything back!” Then America could vote for them to teach the GOP a lesson without getting a big dose of liberalism no one wants. And then when the Libertarian are being stupid and unrealistic, it’s back to the Republicans. That’s where the debate should be in America; the fact is the Democratic is stupid and anachronistic. We’ve long decided we absolutely despise socialism and big government, so why do we even have the Democrats around? Because they’re just there and always have been for so long, but they’re just too far left to be a real part of the debate anymore.

  31. Mr. W says:

    The liberals are not Kamikaze pilots. Being a kamikaze indicates that you are willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good. The only thing liberals want to sacrifice is someone else’s job.

    Democrat behavior reminds me more of those Japanese ‘bitter clingers’ that staggered out of the Philippine jungle in 1962 having just realized the war was over. Pelosi and Reid will one day walk out of the Capitol and wonder where their party went.

  32. JD says:

    There is no end to the sacrifice that Dems are willing to make, so long as it is my money they are sacrificing.

  33. LBascom says:

    VDH has a piece that ends with words familiar to the PW regulars:

    But what is taking Obama down below 50% approval is mostly a public awareness that they elected a deeply cynical man, who either cannot or will not speak the truth or keep his promises (note the Nixonian resonance in “perfectly clear about…”). In fact, it is worse than that — in the postmodern world of Barack Obama there is no truth per se, just competing narratives privileged by the relative degree of power behind them and the relative perceived moral intent involved.

    So when the advocates of hope and change, of non-traditional America, of the poor and the needy and the more noble, say something, it must be true because, you see, it should be true

  34. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    Some liberals consider the legislation’s unpopularity a reason to redouble their efforts to inflict it on Americans

    Ha, it would seem that Rush Limbaugh has taken over the Progressive Party! Not that they needed much help.

  35. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    So when the advocates of hope and change, of non-traditional America, of the poor and the needy and the more noble, say something, it must be true because, you see, it should be true.

    And who really wants to be popular anyway?

  36. LBascom says:

    Ann Coulter:

    when Republicans win political power, they hold onto it long enough to govern. The Democrats keep being smacked down by the voters immediately after being elected and revealing their heinous agenda.

    As a result, for the past four decades, American politics has consisted of Republicans controlling Washington for eight to 14 years — either from the White House or Capitol Hill — thus allowing Americans to forget what it was they didn’t like about Democrats, whom they then carelessly vote back in. The Democrats immediately remind Americans what they didn’t like about Democrats, and their power is revoked at the voters’ first possible opportunity.

    Obama has cut the remembering-what-we-don’t-like-about-Democrats stage of this process down from two to four years to about 10 months. Folks, I’m convinced that if we all work really hard, we can get it down to three months.

  37. Ira says:

    slightly off-topic but probably relevant: from Yahoo/AP news:
    “Obama steps up campaign against Wall Street banks”
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul
    Say… isn’t “wall street banker” another name for… JOOO..? Gee: full circle at last. Maybe we can start by rehabilitating Rev Wright.

  38. sdferr says:

    The counter to Obama’s class warfare attack on the Banks and business generally may be to start moving to outlaw public employee unions as anathema to American political philosophy.

  39. LBascom says:

    start moving to outlaw public employee unions as anathema to American political philosophy.

    Hell ya!

  40. LBascom says:

    The next time I apply for a job, I want Obama campaigning for the other guy. I’ll be running the company in a week

    Not so fast McGehee…

  41. LBascom says:

    start moving to outlaw public employee unions as anathema to American political philosophy.

    Sdferr, I don’t know if this is what prompted your comment, but here is a history lesson i never heard about Camelot before today:

    The central battle in our time is over political primacy. It is a competition between the public sector and the private sector over who defines the work and the institutions that make a nation thrive and grow.

    In 1962, President John F. Kennedy planted the seeds that grew the modern Democratic Party. That year, JFK signed executive order 10988 allowing the unionization of the federal work force. This changed everything in the American political system. Kennedy’s order swung open the door for the inexorable rise of a unionized public work force in many states and cities.

    This in turn led to the fantastic growth in membership of the public employee unions—The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the teachers’ National Education Association.

    They broke the public’s bank. More than that, they entrenched a system of taking money from members’ dues and spending it on political campaigns. Over time, this transformed the Democratic Party into a public-sector dependency.

  42. sdferr says:

    I hadn’t seen that LBascom but it is interesting to be sure. I’ve considered public employee unions contrary to the public interest for three decades or so now, simply because they are. Seemed pretty plain to me anyhow.

  43. LBascom says:

    Yeah, I’ve only climbed on the band wagon in last couple of years, brought about by California’s economic problems and some talking head (don’t remember who) saying that government employee unions are just wrong because, when they are negotiating for their contract, they are essentially negotiating against the citizens, rather than a company that employs them.

    Before California went into the crapper, they weren’t on my radar, now I see them as a major cause of the states (and countries, after reading the above link) economic problems.

  44. sdferr says:

    Ratchet and pawl mechanisms are great for winding up tension in steel rope, say for lifting heavy objects off the ground, suspending them in air.

    Not so great when they wind up tension in the public purse, placing a Damocles’ sword over the head of the polity.

  45. dicentra says:

    Because being by nature an intractable negative force, surely government can be trained to provide goods and services at rates and costs and outcomes that defy natural law itself.

    You know what the perfect energy source would be? One that produces zero pollution, zero by-products, and provides energy from now until the sun burns out?

    A perpetual-motion machine!

    Just think of it: all you have to do is build the thing — ONE TIME — and presto! you have all the energy you could possibly desire, forever and ever.

    What’s that?

    It’s not possible?!?!?!?!?

    PLANET HATER!

    How could you possibly be against clean energy! You must be in the employ of Big Oil or Big Wind!

    You defeatist! You cold-hearted, copper-bottomed #(%*@!

    You just want people to die from cold, ya hater!

  46. dicentra says:

    government employee unions are just wrong because, when they are negotiating for their contract, they are essentially negotiating against the citizens, rather than a company that employs them.

    Oh, that is some good stuff right there.

    Not to mention the fact that gubmint workers pretty much can’t lose their jobs, which means they attract lots of lazy morons, whose laziness and moronicity drives out the good workers who would rather risk the private sector than have to endure the inanity one minute more.

  47. LBascom says:

    Karl Rove crunches the numbers…

  48. donald says:

    I would so love to mount and teabag katrina vandenhuval.

  49. Blake says:

    My take away from this post is that lefties are engaging in their typical thinking:

    “Things aren’t working because we don’t have enough government.”

  50. newrouter says:

    i’d want a a medical test 1st. have you seen how bs comes out that thing

  51. Squid says:

    donald,

    You wouldn’t happen to be a relatively light-skinned negro with articulate speech and an ability to be a blank screen onto which people can project their hopes and dreams? ‘Cuz if you are, I’d say you have a pretty good shot.

    Meantime, I’m thinking it’s past time I gin up my own engines. Hendrick’s, anybody?

  52. Silver Whistle says:

    Are you really sure of that, donald?

  53. Mr. W says:

    And when the government is all (See:North Korea) and all is the government (See:USSR) leftists will look down from their comfortable offices and wonder why there are bread lines for the peasants.

    They won’t actually do anything, but they will wonder, and then blame the capitalism that no longer exists.

  54. Squid says:

    I dedemn and connounce myself.

  55. sdferr says:

    Obama (to Stephanopoulos):

    …we lost some of that sense of speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are and why we have to make sure those institutions are matching up with those values

    He will tell you, he says. Values talk is cheap (and empty).

  56. sdferr says:

    “…this Scott Brown fellow, who seems to enjoy killing innocent babies for sport.”

    Fuck off asshole.

  57. Pellegri says:

    What the hell is wrong with these people.

    I just don’t even anymore. So much that I can’t verb.

  58. BJTex says:

    “…this Scott Brown fellow, who seems to enjoy killing innocent babies for sport.”

    Mary Jo could not be reached for comment.

  59. Makewi says:

    I don’t understand the “killing innocent babies for sport” comment, can someone fill me in?

  60. sdferr says:

    You mean besides it being a contemptible lie Makewi, like what motivated the asshole to write it? Don’t know, don’t care.

  61. newrouter says:

    i think it was mocking oberdude

  62. BJTex says:

    Brown supported the idea that those medical professionals who worked in hospitals who carried religious/moral convictions with regards to abortions would not be forced to participate. That morphed into the vile narrative that Scott Brown doesn’t want rape victims to be treated. Nay, he wants them turned away from emergency rooms!!!

    Coakley’s response was that “Maybe devout Catholics shouldn’t be working in emergency rooms.” I’m sure that sentiment was well received by the several Catholic Hospitals that operate in Mass. After all, what is a deeply held religious conviction compared to the all powerful and transcendent right for a woman to have an abortion? How dare one even engages in a conversation about it!

    sdferr was 100% right at #57 and I echo his sentiments.

  63. Labatouche says:

    “Fuck off asshole”

    That’s not very Christian of you.

    Heretics must be punished.

  64. Makewi says:

    Thanks. I guess I still don’t understand how stating that one has the right to follow their moral convictions a health care professional on the issue of abortion (which is actually an interesting debate, IMO) morphs to “killing babies for sport”, seeing as how pro-life positions generally are found to be against killing babies.

    It just seems a really stupid thing to say, I guess is my point.

  65. sdferr says:

    Come punish me Labatouche, I’ll give you my address and you can do it in person.

  66. Makewi says:

    Oh, now it makes more sense. I’m pro-life, but don’t dismiss the pro-choice argument outright because the arguments it makes for liberty are compelling. I think there just isn’t such a thing as a “winning” argument in that debate.

  67. Squid says:

    Heretics must be punished.

    It thinks Jeff used the term approvingly. Isn’t that just adorable?

  68. LBascom says:

    That’s not very Christian of you.

    As if you would know.

    Hint: Bearing false witness isn’t very Christian either.

  69. Makewi says:

    Scott Brown is saving the United States of America from a horrible bill masquerading as health care reform. For that we should all give a little bit of thanks.

  70. Squid says:

    Oh, come now, Makewi. Surely you understand that we can never let the adequate get in the way of the perfect? That way lies madness!

  71. happyfeet says:

    I agree with #72. That’s just how it be.

  72. BJTex says:

    *sigh*

    From Brown’s website:

    Abortion
    While this decision should ultimately be made by the woman in consultation with her doctor, I believe we need to reduce the number of abortions in America. I believe government has the responsibility to regulate in this area and I support parental consent and notification requirements and I oppose partial birth abortion. I also believe there are people of good will on both sides of the issue and we ought to work together to support and promote adoption as an alternative to abortion.

    Not exactly “killing babies for sport” now, is it?

  73. happyfeet says:

    I like what he says about abortions.

  74. sdferr says:

    Once again Labatouche, should you have failed to understand initially, fuck off leftist asshole.

  75. LBascom says:

    I also think that is a very acceptable position for a politician to take.

    I also think that is a very reasonable position that sdferr adopted.

    Hah! adopted. I crack myself up…

  76. newrouter says:

    It is with the greatest regret, on behalf of our Board, that we must announce that Air America Media is ceasing its live programming operations as of this afternoon, and that the Company will file soon under Chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code to carry out an orderly winding-down of the business.

  77. If you relied only on the Globe for your news, the last poll you read about before Election Day was the one from Jan. 6 from the paper and the University of New Hampshire that showed Coakley winning in a 17-point walk over Republican Scott Brown.

    That soft sussuration you hear is the sound of The Narrative slipping out of the sweaty hands of a certain obsolescent information industry.

  78. Makewi says:

    Which is more or less what Obama

    As per many things Obama, there is a world of difference between what the man say and what the man do. He’s also just fine with late terms, which would be another notable difference.

  79. sdferr says:

    Obama on Citizens United v. FEC :

    With its ruling today, the Supreme Court has given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics. It is a major victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and the other powerful interests that marshal their power every day in Washington to drown out the voices of everyday Americans. This ruling gives the special interests and their lobbyists even more power in Washington–while undermining the influence of average Americans who make small contributions to support their preferred candidates. That’s why I am instructing my Administration to get to work immediately with Congress on this issue. We are going to talk with bipartisan Congressional leaders to develop a forceful response to this decision. The public interest requires nothing less.

  80. Slartibartfast says:

    There are a lot of Christians who kind of need a slap to the face. Ditto atheists, Muslims, even the odd Hindoo or two.

    It’s all part of being human.

    Likewise, there are tons of people who will take some opinion or other as a personal affront, even calling said opinion “a slap in the face”. That, too, is part of being human. Me, I try to stay away from both kinds; the people who should be slapped and aren’t, and the people who think they’ve been slapped and haven’t.

  81. JD says:

    Labadouchenozzle has trolled here under a variety of names. Go fuck yourself, swordfish-style.

  82. geoffb says:

    Labatouche attempts to imitate a right wing religious conservative, but comes across as a parody instead. My guess would be that he/she/it is a member of the “religious left”, perhaps form the religious Community Organizer group The Gamaliel Foundation or one of it’s many sub-organizations.

    His job seems to be similar to an “agent provocateur”. Dropping in views, that are to be seen as representative of those crazy evangelical right wing nuts, complete with biblical quotes to add the proper flavoring.

  83. Slartibartfast says:

    “It is a major victory for big oil”

    Which is, for identity politics reasons, always a bad thing by definition.

  84. sdferr says:

    That’s slick Slart. Why not put names to it?

  85. RD says:

    That soft sussuration

    I, for one, welcome our new 41/59 overlords.

    Funny how the The Sanity Inspector acts kinda different on LGF.

  86. Slartibartfast says:

    Methinks Labatouche isn’t aware that Brown has already been elected. I can’t think of another reason why it would be saying those things, here and now.

  87. Squid says:

    Labatouche,

    We get it. You’re the biggest, bestest pro-life warrior in the history of the abortion debate. You’re not cartoony or two-dimensional at all. And so we should all listen to you and denounce the hero of the day because he is insufficiently committed to your righteous cause. One might even say he’s a heretic who must be punished, if one were so completely oblivious to the fact that such absolutism is exactly what’s being mocked in the original post.

    Here’s a hint for you, my friend: we’ve seen your script. You’re not the first to come into this office with it, and you’re far from the best we’ve seen deliver the lines. So do us all a favor, and roll the script up as tight as you can, and cram it up your ass as far as it will go.

  88. Slartibartfast says:

    Pat Robertson badly needs to be slapped. Lots and lots of times.

    Labatouche thinks he’s been slapped, but hasn’t.

    That aside, I’d have to sit and think for a while before I wrote down any other names.

  89. LBascom says:

    @#84-

    So, the Dim Congress must rush to squelch the 1st amendment to protect the “everyday American”?

    By “doing something” about that whole checks and balances thing presumably.

    Understandable why certain cretins want to change the conversation to abortion…

  90. sdferr says:

    It’s hard to tell what Labatouche thinks, at least to the extent that it lies so easily and often.

  91. Slartibartfast says:

    It’s for the Frequent Liar miles, I think.

  92. JD says:

    Darleen should be able to point out the multitude of aliases labafucker has used.

    As if on cue, RD shows up with the MSNBC talking points.

  93. Squid says:

    BobDon’s right. Now that Reid has lost a crucial vote, twenty points of popular opinion, all the momentum, and any chance at being re-elected, why, there’s NOTHING he can’t do!

  94. geoffb says:

    at least to the extent that it lies so easily and often.

    Which is a tell that he/she/it is no Christian in reality. Working the side of the “Father of lies” isn’t conducive to entry into heaven.

  95. LBascom says:

    I’m thinking Labatouche is some sorta moby, trying to get the people happy about Browns election to start second guessing, fighting amongst ourselves, and turning off the independents by working up the pro-lifers.

    I again suggest that the wise sdferrs position be adopted.

    Fuck off Labatouche.

  96. Makewi says:

    RD just doesn’t understand what the “41/59 overlord” comment means. He throws around the talking points that he finds funny, but doesn’t understand the truth behind them. I think this is because RD has a real hard time understanding the country in which he lives.

  97. happyfeet says:

    Obama says he is a Christian.

  98. JD says:

    Christians are bad, happyfeet. Unless they are leftists. At which point they become holy.

  99. Makewi says:

    A good chunk of America calls itself Christian. Since there is thankfully no current verification system to ensure accurate self reporting, this is likely to mean different things to different people.

    It also probably means you’re all going to hell. Sorry.

  100. newrouter says:

    i thought baraky was an Obamist

  101. LBascom says:

    Obama says he is a Christian.

    Oh, you haven’t heard? Obama was promoted

  102. Kresh says:

    An intelligent Troll! My (admittedly small and not worth much on the current market) Kingdom for an intelligent Troll!

    Holy mother of Pearl! What a caricature!

  103. Squid says:

    Roll up the script, Labia. You’re not getting cast in this production.

  104. happyfeet says:

    oh. I was just trying to help Slart with his slapping list.

  105. LBascom says:

    That’s what Satan wants you to think

    Really? Satan is concerned about what little old me thinks about you? You must be really, really special!

  106. dicentra says:

    Darleen should be able to point out the multitude of aliases.

    Jeff’s post, though, but Jeff has already retired for the day. So no go on that.

  107. dicentra says:

    It also probably means you’re all going to hell. Sorry.

    According to no less an authority as South Park, the Mormons are the only ones who have guessed right.

    Neener neener.

  108. newrouter says:

    ‘rats at the precipice still may jump

    “They’re meeting with each other this weekend to pursue it,” says Ryan. “I’ve spoken with many Democrats and the message is this: They’re not ready to give up. They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny. They’ll look at every option and spend the next four or five days figuring it out.”

    link

  109. Spiny Norman says:

    Kresh,

    Holy mother of Pearl! What a caricature!

    The leftist/atheist’s strawman come to life. O frabjous joy!

  110. geoffb says:

    That’s what Satan wants you to think.

    You really need to up your game. There are a whole host of ways and materials available for you to do so. Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and many hours worth of fine reading to pump up your dedication and abilities in aid of your God. For the sake of all human souls just do it, soon.

  111. Spiny Norman says:

    They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny.

    A permanent political majority is (was?) within their grasp – *this close* – and letting that get away would be a disaster.

  112. David R. Block says:

    Labatouche, if you want Roe v Wade overturned, that’s not the Godsend that you think it is. It merely puts things back in the hands of the states. Washington, Oregon, California, and, yes, probably Massachusetts are likely to go “All In” if they are given the opportunity.

    It won’t irradicate abortion. It will make some states havens for any and all forms of it, and the Constitution kind of frowns on individual states putting up travelling restrictions to other states.

    So as much as I dislike abortion (I’m an adoptee, and pro-life Christian), the infamous “unintended consequences” of overturning Roe v Wade are not all sunshine and happiness.

  113. bh says:

    Some interesting back and forth on Obama’s banking proposals.

    Question: Do we have any bankers (or relevant expertise) around here? If so, what kind of practical business consequences would you predict if we instead simply raised the capital requirement significantly above 6%? Like 10% say?

  114. Mr. W says:

    Since the Liberal educrats are the ones pushing the AGW fraud on the tykes, are we then saying that they are Satan’s minions?

    For the record, if we are, I agree completely.

  115. sdferr says:

    Don’t be fooled Mr. Block. You mistake an entirely dishonest interlocutor for someone else not dishonest.

  116. LBascom says:

    Really? I don’t believe you understand the “grammer”, Makewi.

    I don’t understand either. Please explain.

  117. Makewi says:

    You got me RD, sometimes I don’t spell so good.

  118. Labatouche says:

    “So as much as I dislike abortion (I’m an adoptee, and pro-life Christian), the infamous “unintended consequences” of overturning Roe v Wade are not all sunshine and happiness”

    In other words you’re an “independent” that depends on “traditional news sources” to stay informed.

    I pity you.

  119. Mr. W says:

    Leopards do not change their spots. Ever. The best they can do is cover them up a bit.

    Obama will cover his little socialist spots up for a while, but that becomes tiring after a while, and he will drop the pretense as soon as Mass. fades in the mind of the body politic.

    I promise you that next year at this time we will be marveling once again at even more spectacular damage that Obama has done to both our country and his party.

  120. SBP says:

    Hi, Rilly.

    Yes, you’re quite right. A Republican winning Ted Kennedy’s seat is completely meaningless. Not a sign of serious trouble for the Democrats. All will be well. Nothing to see there. Move along.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    Bye, Rilly. See you in a week.

    P.S. it’s now what we call “night” in my “time zone”. I don’t work at night. Just thought I’d point that out since you’ve been so confused by those concepts in the past.

  121. SBP says:

    Oh, and LabradorDouche got ‘hammered instantly.

  122. sdferr says:

    bh, do you have the sense that Obama’s proposed banking regulations are undertaken for the sake of an efficient and smoothly functioning economy? Or do you take Mara Liasson’s analysis to heart and see a purely (cynical) populist political move designed to stir up passions against bonuses, put the Republicans on the defensive and thus attempt to repair his fading hope and change prestidigitation?

    I tend to lean toward the latter myself. In this regard, Labatouche may be instructive of the type, a liar through and through; as such, a suggestion that would militate against taking up any part of Obama’s bait.

  123. LBascom says:

    I also favor the latter sdferr, some people just want to watch the world burn.

  124. happyfeet says:

    I kinda wonder if leopards even know they have spots.

  125. newrouter says:

    is there spot removers for leopards

  126. dicentra says:

    Commercial Break, Jonah Goldberg

    The Revolutionary Holocaust

    So I got to watch the first fifteen minutes of the documentary (it airs tomorrow on Fox). It is very, very hard hitting. It’s the sort of thing that would never, ever, have been allowed on TV 20 years ago. I don’t know what happens after the first block that I’m in, so there might be something I disagree with. But I thought what I saw was great.

    That’s the Glenn Beck documentary, BTW, where they show you what the Left has been hiding, whitewashing, minimalizing, and lying about for all these years.

    I don’t know if it’s airing during Glenn’s show or another time. Check your local cable listings.

    And now back to our daily troll ensquishment.

  127. LBascom says:

    I kinda wonder if leopards even know they have spots.

    I imagine so, I mean they can see their own legs and stuff.

    I think they also know if they hang out in dappled light, they are hard to pick out.

  128. geoffb says:

    Any good eats in Buffet-ville?

  129. Lisa says:

    I love Purity Purges. Okay no I don’t. It is only funny when the opponent is doing it.

    I now believe that the party leadership (including O-Smoove)doesn’t actually believe even a tenth of their own platform. Which is why with a 59 seat senate majority they are curling up into a ball and sucking their thumbs. We can post “yeah!” to all of Jane Hamsher and Glennzilla’s rants and purge Blue Dogs all we want. But what has become glaringly apparent is that our party leadership does not believe in the party platform. Coakley’s lazy, entitled behavior reflects the entire party leadership.

    Republicans have been governing on the slimmest of senate majorities for years. But they made it work because they really believe in the Republican platform, take their constituents wishes seriously, and are willing to work really hard until the job is done. In contrast, Democrats are curling into a ball and sucking their thumbs at the prospect of governing with a 59 seat majority. A 59 SEAT MAJORITY. What. The. Fuck. Bitch, please. But we are supposed to get excited about a platform that the people we elected think is just too hard to accomplish if it takes work and maybe the opposition might(ZOMG) oppose it.

    Ugh. I know you told me so, so don’t even fucking say it, PWers.

    I am fucking done. DONE. I am glad I will be a semi-expat in a couple of months. Because I can’t even stand the idea of dealing with these twats for another election cycle. I go where the Marxists walk tall and proud, lol.

    Comrade S.T.

  130. bh says:

    Well, as you might guess, sdferr, I have no faith in Obama. I assume he’s a thoroughly bad actor.

    Other people though, seem to genuinely believe that going back to Glass-Steagall is a good idea. I’m not one of them. Unfortunately, the alternate approach (here’s a versionversion) I’ve been hearing about falls into an area I’m totally ignorant of. It seems reasonable to me yet I’m no banker. They’d obviously have a better feel for the unintended consequences.

  131. bh says:

    I lucked out, Geoff, didn’t have to fly, just a conference call instead.

  132. LBascom says:

    Hey Lisa, long time no see.

  133. Lisa says:

    Hey LBascom ;-)

  134. LBascom says:

    JD starts yelling SUGARTITS!!! in 3, 2, 1…

  135. geoffb says:

    dicentra,

    Glenn’s facebook page says 5pm ans has a short trailer.

  136. LBascom says:

    Oh yeah, if you remember me, it would be as lee.

    I’ve become respectable lately. ;-P

  137. sdferr says:

    bh, I wonder, are you familiar, generally speaking, with the Copenhagen Consensus approach Bjørn Lomborg took at achieving an ordered hierarchy of “global” human problems (and what I take was an underlying cost-benefit analysis in that ordering)?

    I wonder whether some similar effort might yield a sensible (though not necessarily perfect) ordering of the pressing regulatory needs of the US economy, laid out in an easily digested bang-for-the-buck map? Or would it be too contentious from the get-go, with no stable set of initial assumptions possible due to too wide a variance in the underlying economic theories?

  138. LBascom says:

    By the way Lisa, what is the Dem party platform these days?

    ‘Cuz I’m pretty sure it’s still tax, spend, and hate America.

  139. happyfeet says:

    leopards are smart but they’re not Batman smart

  140. LBascom says:

    Which, I forgot to add, the dems are still working hard at…

  141. bh says:

    Or would it be too contentious from the get-go, with no stable set of initial assumptions possible due to too wide a variance in the underlying economic theories?

    That would be my guess. Politically, even the general aim of financial regulation is disputed.

  142. RD says:

    I don’t know what happens after the first block that I’m in, so there might be something I disagree with. But I thought what I saw was great.

    Thanks for the link Dicentra. I caught some of Jonah on CSPAN during his book tour.

    He was sweating so much I thought he was having a heart attack.

  143. Mikey NTH says:

    Congress is run on seniority. Those who stay the longest are the most senior. Usually this means:

    the most senior are from safe districts
    the safe districts are most skewed to one party/ideology
    that member can support the most partisan/ideological positions
    without fear
    and becoming senior
    they can try to enact those partisan/ideological positions
    if they do not have any concern for any other party members, who are not in such skewed p/i districts
    which takes us to Nancy Pelosi
    who is personally wealthy
    and from a very skewed p/i district
    hence the ‘Icebergs dead ahead? Full speed right at them!’
    of the current Congress

  144. newrouter says:

    other animals that are not batman smart dept:

    “Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska is leading the charge to block the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse gasses, and today she got some support from across the aisle: Three Democratic senators signed onto Murkowski resolution to bar such regulation …The Democrats, the Associated Press reports, are Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas.”

    +

  145. Mr. W says:

    Lisa, I have long said that the empty suit in the Oval office will be the death of the Democrat party, a prediction that I am strangely sad to see come true.

    What is especially cold is that we on the right, who saw this all coming, were treated to the spectacle of Obama practically making them beg for what we knew was going to be their doom.

    The true believers like yourself are the ones that will suffer the most from his lack of conviction as you watch your party self-destruct. You will miss Bush before Barry is finished with you and your party.

  146. Makewi says:

    Hi Lisa, hope you are going somewhere fun or at least warm. I think the test for O-smoove will be whether he learns the lessons that the people are teaching. He’s horribly inexperienced and he has completely insulated himself with partisan yes men who don’t seem to have a clue that big government and big spending are not generally viewed favorably in this country, especially when unemployment is at 10%.

    Contrast Obama with the hated Bush who sought out Kennedy to forge a deal on education. One talks a good game and the other actually delivered.

  147. ThomasD says:

    I go where the Marxists walk tall and proud, lol.

    Paris? Valencia? Athens?

    Cause in Pyongyang they walk stooped and fearful, just like everyone else.

  148. dicentra says:

    Lisa? You a Marxist? How come? You wanna be in power or you want peeps to be in power over you?

  149. cyn says:

    lisa, I don’t have the luxury of going abroad. And I wouldn’t do it if I could. I am angry at my party for getting all twee over everything. I would have voted for Scott Brown, because Martha Coakley was a slap in the face. I am that vindictive, and Obama better get the memo soon. Hell yes, I am willing to hold Democrats liable for their snowglobe of stupid. I do not belong to a party of emos that reflexively cut themselves and cry in the corner.

  150. happyfeet says:

    plus you just redid your floors

  151. Mr. W says:

    I’m a proud Marxist farmer, outstanding in my killing field.

  152. McGehee says:

    I know you told me so, so don’t even fucking say it

    You won’t hear it from me Lisa, mainly because I’ll be holding up a sign behind your back that says it. It’s the best I can do, sorry.

    I am angry at my party for getting all twee over everything.

    And that’s a reason why I can’t help but like you most of the time, Cynn.

  153. cyn says:

    Yes, I redid my floors, and I donated the proceeds to the Haitian Phantom Limb Fund. Is there a point?

  154. happyfeet says:

    Just that you probably wouldn’t want to expatriate after doing your floors. Who would?

  155. Mr. W says:

    Hey! Be grateful. At least this time the Marxists just slaughtered a few million peasants JOBS.

  156. cynn says:

    What exactly are you referring to Mr. W?

  157. sdferr says:

    knuble, fehr, ovechkin, fleishman, backstrom, ovechkin

    vs

    crosby, johnson, letang

    Giggity.

  158. cynn says:

    OK, either this is the latest Marxist dance, or it’s, well, a Marxist dance. I vote polka.

  159. Lisa says:

    Cyn, LOL!

    I am so with you there. Total party of emos. Even when we had a supermajority, the conservative Democrats were slapping “Steve Urkel” Obama around and stuffing him in the locker. So why are we crying about losing the super majority? We weren’t doing shit but indiscriminately handing out money (cuz that is easy and real math is hard). I am, as a devout leftist, not opposed to big spending. But can you even try to have some sort of plan and endgame in mind as you cut that rubber fucking check, my good man? When the People’s Republic of China crafts a better and more effective stimulus package than you, you KNOW that you are FUCKED with no Astroglide.

    I hope this was a wake up call. If not, then the midterms will make short work of them and they will deserve it.

  160. Lisa says:

    McGehee, LOL

    Great to see you buddy.

  161. McGehee says:

    the Haitian Phantom Limb Fund.

    I saw him lately on a recent “Venture Brothers” episode, but he doesn’t call himself “Phantom Limb” anymore.

    Also, I think I prefer the mazurka. No accordions.

  162. Lisa says:

    Coakley was an embarassment. But she was the boil that is indicative of the deeper, fundamental problem with us: We have become the joke-caricature “leebrull” that we pooh poohed the wingnuts about for decades. The lazy, entitled, “if-you-don’t-understand-how-right-and-awesome-I-am-why-should-I-waste-my-beautiful-mind-on-you” elitist. The idea that you can run a campaign that scorns connecting with the voter because “you know people who know people”…..and no one was sent up to choke-a-bitch and get that campaign crackin’ until three days before election day? Meanwhile the other guy is actually showed up for the job interview with a resume and was happy to shake hands and chit-chat with his prospective employers…..

    Yeah, that was embarrassing.

  163. Lisa says:

    BTW: Hi Perfesser G. great to see you(your blog is still crackalackin’)!

  164. David R. Block says:

    Comment by sdferr on 1/21 @ 4:39 pm #

    Don’t be fooled Mr. Block. You mistake an entirely dishonest interlocutor for someone else not dishonest.

    Well, just in case. My troll detector ESP is often deficient. Won’t be the first time, probably won’t be the last.

  165. David R. Block says:

    #

    Comment by Labatouche on 1/21 @ 5:01 pm #

    “So as much as I dislike abortion (I’m an adoptee, and pro-life Christian), the infamous “unintended consequences” of overturning Roe v Wade are not all sunshine and happiness”

    In other words you’re an “independent” that depends on “traditional news sources” to stay informed.

    I pity you.

    Wrong and wrong. Batting .000 there big fella.

    sdferr, you were right.

  166. Rusty says:

    #166
    The continuing rise in unemployment. The stimulus doesn’t seem to be working. It’s difficult to fix something if you don’t know how it works.

    Hi. Lisa.

  167. SDN says:

    “Republicans have been governing on the slimmest of senate majorities for years. But they made it work because they really believe in the Republican platform, take their constituents wishes seriously, and are willing to work really hard until the job is done.”

    For certain values of all of those, yeah. I wish they’d been a little more fiscally restrained, but that’s how they made those slim majorities work some of the time. When they forgot, in Bush’s second term, and became obviously Democrat-lite, they got spanked in 2006, and 2008.

  168. donald says:

    That’s not a flattering photo of Katrina, who I’ve seen in person and whom I think is a piece of ass. I am not the taste arbiter of the world.

  169. donald says:

    Oh, and she is a miserable nasty (Personality wise) cunt. I am very aware.

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