In addition to whatever future work I do here on protein wisdom, I’m now writing for The QOR, a subscription-based venture that describes itself as “an online library of carefully-selected, reading, viewing and listening content.”
It’s an upscale setup that promises to take care of its writers with actual money. Which works for me.
I’ll be continuing both the armadillo and red pills series over there, and I’m hoping, too, to revive many of the staples of protein wisdom past.
Check it out, and don’t hesitate to ask questions or voice opinions.
Good to hear and best wishes, boss…
Glad to hear it is a paying gig Jeff. Just as long as your writing can rise to this level.
Aren’t we lucky to live at the same time as such an important historical figure?
Good on ya, drop us a freebie now and then.
Because we’re entitled.
I feel so…so…used. Like some sort of cast of Saturday night fling. What? We weren’t good enough for you? You’ve moved on to someone else?
{{sniff}}
How COULD you?!?!
Steve B, unless you are putting out, can you reasonably expect someone to treat you to dinner and drinks every Friday night?
I can’t believe they listed Lileks above you. You could take that guy with one hand tied behind your back.
I may have to ask the Missus to raise my allowance…
w00t!
Dan !!!!
Great news, Jeff! I hope this leads to other publishing opportunities that will fill your coffers with filthy lucre!!
Well, it only works if people subscribe. Meantime, I get nada.
Looks like a highfalutin club!
Ok, I’ll join.
But I’m not wearing a coat & tie.
Congrats Jeff.
B-B-But, I thought stuff was free now.
You know….Hope-n-Change, Yes We Can……
I can’t join cause of they force you to use your for real name that your dirty socialist, cowardly, and not particularly clever boss knows you by.
That’s not your real name?
I’m a little bit sad now.
‘feets is right — I gotta wait until I go home to subscribe (and fight She Who Must Be Obeyed to use the computing machine).
I wrote them an email asking them to please change up their whole approach just for cause I want to be happyfeet in the Qor just like I am everywhere else. I’m sure we can work something out.
If not, the whatever future work I do here on protein wisdom part is very heartening.
Sehr interesant!
Jeff’s stuff is well worth the money, but that’s not the same thing as “I can justify it to my whimpering checkbook.” Especially since only a tiny fraction of it would be going to the one guy I’d be signing up to read.
Best of luck with the new venture. “Life is either a daring adventure or it is nothing at all.” Maybe you could drop some teasers of your PPV work here, to encourage people to sign up?
My only concern is the possible playground monitors that would patrol our little sandlot which is missing from here… and thus a very real place to let off steam in an otherwise overly stuffed shirt side of the political spectrum.
All the best on your new gig JeffG. I hope that subscribers flock in droves to partake of your talented work.
[…] The news came this morning. […]
Please let us know how it goes, hf. I don’t mind some people knowing who I really am, but I don’t want everyone to know cuz it could hurt future job prospects.
It’s non-political, and it’s private. So using your name doesn’t hurt. In fact, it keeps people civil, and keeps the trolls away.
I’m heading over to check it out now. As long as it doesn’t cost me your house payment a week, I’ll be signing up. Your writing is worth paying for.
Mighty fine company you’re keeping. I’m signing up.
Thankfully, I won’t have to wade through PJM videos, either. Just plain writing and reading. Love it.
::sigh::
Leaves me out. I can’t afford to pay attention these days.
Hope you do well and make lots of bucks.
Regards,
Ric
Lileks is there, too. Interesting.
I’m afraid $19.95 a month is a bit steep for me at the moment. Any discounts for an annual subscription?
Congrats, Jeff. I’ve been waiting for you to pop out and see your shadow again. Glad to see that you’ll be -potentially- getting paid. Now to drum up business for you…
Will there be filthy jokes? I so enjoy those.
At some point, free content had to end. Or, at least, become a teaser.
There’s no escaping the mighty TANSTAAFL.
Although the list of children, liberals and politicians who believe in AFL is very long.
Best of luck with the paying gig, Jeff G. And may you pull down such princely sums that you regularly casually mention posting from exotic locations which feature umbrella drinks.
They didn’t write me back at least not yet. My feeling is they’re probably looking for certain kinds of people, which I am not. Not these days anyway. I’ve taken to using vulgar language of late. It’s very distressing to find yourself unable to communicate without resort to vulgar language. It’s the times I think. And meya. Same difference, really.
Or at least, hopefully, Jeff will earn enough quid to keep this site going…
Could you arrange for Martha Stewart to get thrown in prison again? That was some of your best shit.
happyfeet,
You’re not using vulgar language, you’re merely refining your message in order to reach the intended audience….
Great news for you, Jeff. Best of luck and make some cizash. You’re much too talented not to.
Wow, 20 bucks a month, how often will you be posting?
Best of luck with that, but I’m not sanguine on the idea of people subscribing to such a thing – especially at $20 a month.
I hope that this time next year you’ll be a millionaire.
At some point, free content had to end. Or, at least, become a teaser.
There’s no escaping the mighty TANSTAAFL.
I dunno about that…
Is Qor going to be original content, a “best-of-the-web”-type aggregator, or both? And in what proportion?
Mostly original content.
I plan on serializing a novel as I write it, for instance, if this thing flies.
Oh. And I’ll only be paid if people are reading my shit. So if there’s not a tremendous demand for armadillos and copulating sugar beets, I’m out of luck.
Which is why I’m pushing it here I guess. You guys seem to like that kind of mental seepage.
the true/slant people are supposedly playing with that model. That’s where I read Mr. Barrett Brown sometimes. Right now he has a vendetta against Stacy McCain which is very boring. But it’s a nice platform over there and I think you would make much more better use of it than Barrett, who is mostly just calling people racists instead of hunting pundits more generally like he is opposed to.
I am not absolutely certain, but I think the very first comment I ever posted on the Internet was to an Armadillo post. I enjoyed them quite intensely as I sank into a neurotic depression at my former job, looking for them every darn Friday up to the day I was fired.
Now you’re telling me I have to pay almost $240 a year to watch for those same posts?
Ya gotta be effin’ kidding me, otherwise you’re trying to give me a psychotic relapse.
Take your dillo and go. I will not tarry longer, myself, upon this vale of tears.
Ask not for whom the dillo dances, he dances not for me. And eff the rest of y’all.
Regarding TANSTAAFL: Free lunches do not exist, but free samples exist in great plenty (insert gratuitous internet porn example here).
And there is the counteracting, dynamic equilibrium producing effect of TIANOBEM (There is a new one born every minute!) by which fools will continue to provide free content as a means of attaining the eminent rank of “paid blogger” eventually. Just hope some of those fools are good writers. At worst they will be intensely detailed and interesting upon some core subjects, and write about silly things otherwise, using this blog as a template.
Mikee that is not very supportive, what you said.
Aw, Mikee. What’s wrong? You didn’t get enough free content for the past 7 years? you should have at least informed us that the content of this blog was all about you and your psychosis. That way, many of us could have told you to piss off much earlier and saved you some angst.
MIKEE DEMANDS FREE CONTENT, JEFF! YOU WILL MAKE WITH THE ARMADILLO DANCING OR MIKEE WILL LOSE ANOTHER JOB AND QUITE POSSIBLY PISS ON THE CARPET!!!
This will be $20 well spent, provided it is BlackBerry friendly.
There really is something cathartic about and all caps comment!
EXCELSIOR!
Does anyone have any proof that the ‘dillo still exists? No way could that little fucker have been on its good behavior for this long.
I guess I might could join and read stuff and just not comment. That might be an idea. I will wait and see what they answer to my email.
TSI,
There’s always a price to be paid. For instance, the price of looking at a picture of Helen Thomas is wanting to wash one’s eyeballs in bleach.
Those “I’m taking my ball and going home” comments are stupid, Mikee, and demonstrate that you are an emotional infant. If you want to go, go quietly, and don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
But it’s not political? Our little country is being boisterously defiled by our dirty socialist hoodrat pezzydent and crew to where it’s hard to imagine a non-political forum and your political is very very very … how to say? Compelling.
Word has it the ‘dillo has been in prison, JD.
Blake@56
I’ve found bleach to be ineffective. Drano and an electric sander does it for me.
Congrats on the gig, Jeff. May your brain relieve itself on that site often and with great alacrity.
Dude,
Chedder cheese popcorn and Corona light? No wonder the dillo won’t dance. Jalapeño popcorn is what you need.
Danger – Is all well ?
I’m the CEO and the Publisher of The QOR. I very much appreciate you comments, suggestions, criticisms and the like. There are some really good people involved in the development of our website, but we are all on a learning curve, and the more feedback we get, the better.
Ours is a hybrid business model, with lots of original content but also a selection by an editorial staff – no algorithms need apply – of things we want to call to your attention in case you missed them. I confess that I fell hard for Jeff’s little fellow who was to dance for us on Fridays, and I’m delighted we can bring him back for a weekly encore. I’m also taken with the Red Pills Diary – Jeff at his best, off his meds perhaps – and that will be up on the site every Tuesday. I’ve discussed with Jeff adding to both series, and he seems open to doing so. Feel free to join my pitch for new episodes and maybe we can get a groundswell going.
No coats and ties required at The Club. Not now; not ever.
But real names, yes. Sorry happyfeet. Anonymity has its place, of course, particularly on the Web. Just not here. We are hoping that civility will be the order of the day at The Club, and that having our members use a name that is also on a credit card will work best for all concerned.
Our revenue-sharing formulae insure that the content providers, like Jeff, will be paid for every visit by the member to his writing, and with enough members, the numbers should be suitably large, not just to pay for his current material but to make up for all of his effort, without much recompense to speak of, to entertain and inform us in the past on this site.
And so it begins.
Ed – Will the site be Blackberry friendly?
Jeff,
As a rare commenter, you may remember the last bit of advice I gave to you was back when you were purchasing your home. I was in favor of you leaving the seller bleeding from all orifices and pleading for mercy, but your fear of Karma induced lighting bolts forced you to be fair with them. Not exactly the Outlaw spirit, but admirable nevertheless.
Now it seems you are in the midst of another business deal. The lure of actually being paid for good writing must be a powerful draw, not only for the cash but for the affirmation that there are people who value what you do. I understand.
Not only does the thought of having a cerebral group in a closed, subscriber-only atmosphere sound like a pleasant home, but it would offer a secure area free of web crazies.
Why would anyone try to talk you out of it?
Well, first off, the business model doesn’t sound viable. I’m certain the projections look good on paper (run them again at $200 per month per subscriber and see how great they are), but the revenue isn’t going to materialize. Do you realize how hard it is to get someone to part with $20 a month? Considering Qor doesn’t even have a section for bondage or anal, that much in dues is next to impossible.
Protein Wisdom has a history. You’ve got talent, a loyal following and a group of contributors (both in the articles and the comment section) that compound the reading experience. This is potentially a valuable platform that is in a slump and searching for the right management and business plan. Don’t fuck it up.
Take a little more time to find the person who can relieve you of the business end in order to leave you and your crew the ability to write unfettered by the day to day problems. Only a few blogs make money now, but the model is changing and I believe you would do better by protecting the brand by staying put.
But, what do I know?
I am the anal / bondage section. So long as you like your anal with sea monkeys and spook dolphins.
Spook dolphins ?! RACIST !!!!!!!
here is an article about the Qor and also Mr. McCabe which is interesting to read even if some of it no longer applies cause of things got changed from when this was written. It says politics is banned. Banned. That is scary for there to be bannings of politics at the same time our little country is being refashioned as the preeminent dirty socialist third world cul de sac of fail.
Gotta buy a new hard drive to accommodate all of the phrases I steal from ‘feets.
Not really so much happyfeet, since the one odd place or the other won’t threaten the presence of the various -isms from which we can otherwise never seem to escape in any case. There will still be plenty of politics to go around. Indeed, a place, even a temporary only sometime place without all the –isms sounds to me like a good thing.
Well, earlier this year I coughed up $50.00 to buy my kids a subscription to Sketch Star, so I won’t say that I’d never consider joining this. All I’ve gotta say is, if I do pay the entrance fee, the contributors better workin’ that pole hard.
Run Forrest, Run!
6,000 subscribers? Better add gambling to the anal/bondage package.
That is scary for there to be bannings of politics at the same time our little country is being refashioned as the preeminent dirty socialist third world cul de sac of fail.
If it’s politics people want, they can always come back here.
Progressive propaganda written into Higglytown Heroes, ey? I had noticed it.
Also Handy Manny and Little Einsteins.
Is it heartless, joyless and paranoid to notice it, or heartless, joyless and paranoid for them to write it in there in the first place?
better be workin’, that is.
I just heard that scores of women and children were killed by a car bomb. No minorities, or old people, or transtesticled peoples?!?!
NBC sux
I’ve donated to Jeff in the past (ok, twice, and not under this pseudonym and fake email address, but how else is an OUTLAW! supposed to hide from web spiders) and I could seem myself parting with $20 now and then to see new content at this new gig, but to be perfectly honest Jeff…
If we pay to see you there, would you at least grace us with your presence here more often then you have of late as well? Consider it a two-for-one deal. I think many other people who still visit PW would be attracted to that if we were to follow through with you on this new venture.
Here’s my take, just so I can say I said it. $120 a year is too pricey. I’d pay Jeff a subscription for PW, but not $20 a month. Something on the order of $5 a month to see Jeff ruminate and voluminate (caution: made-up word) here. Why not just make PW a subscription-only gig?
B E A U T I F U L.
Feets never fails. I give it 10/10 stars.
Jeff- congrats. paying gigs are good, especially in this economy. wish I had one =x
Although I do have to concur with the steep price, Especially In This Economy. Next month I may be Flush With Cash, so I’ll have to check it out.
Podcasts for Rush and others are about $7 monthly; as a non-print medium, you don’t multiply costs by multiplying subscribers, so you might as well go for volume.
But then, Jeff isn’t the moneychanger in this enterprise. Might have to whinge to someone else.
good luck dicentra with the flushyness
Oh dear:
The QOR (pronounced “Core”) Club is a members-only, online library of carefully-selected, reading, viewing and listening content.
No hyphen after “carefully” because compound adjectives where the first word is an adverb ending in -ly don’t take the hyphen. On account of there’s no way to confuse what’s modifying what.
Also, there should be no comma after “selected.”
And if it were up to me, there would be a comma after “viewing,” because I loves me that serial comma.
Sorry, but I MUST go grammar-Nazi on sites that claim to be written by pros. It’s in my blood.
Thanks, ‘feets. It’s just for a year, so I think I’ll have to be extra-prudent with the cash as it comes in and buy platinum and silver and gold and bury it in the back yard.
Maybe emeralds. Those are always pretty, but I’ve heard that if all goes to hell, the best bartering stuff is toilet paper and beers.
Gave this a little more thought. First, its great for jeff. Second, I’m going to check out the website but plenty 20 bucks for an entire group of authors I don’t know is not going to happen. I think Jeff’s brand of humor would have been great at Big Hollywood or another mainstream but offbeat site. I hope it works. I will be checking out what’s available and deciding. But for example, my self employment website, which I run and manage, costs me 25 bucks a month. Just saying.
I bet you’ll be ok in Utah. Utah is very stable. Here there be Osmonds.
Dicentra is correct. Although, I thought the and replaced the comma in most circumstances.
Didn’t Pajamas TV have to drastically lower its rates, from something like this initial level?
In English, Q’s have U’s after them. It is a thing. U-less words have invaded our reading material for silly multiculti reasons; we don’t need to make more on purpose.
Why is the site so ugly?
I agree with Happyfeet about the names. Petty coercion right from the start is inauspicious. And if I want to talk to someone under my real name, that’s what outside is for.
Also, if I had $20/month to pay Jeff, I would do it directly.
Best of luck to all involved. Perhaps it will succeed.
The missus gives $20 a month to a community radio station we don’t even listen to any more. I’m betting I can swing this.
I think if you really gave it a try, happyfeet, you could maybe find you some political writing on the web somewhere.
No, really. It’s out there. I’ve heard rumors.
With the downturn? I can’t DO 20 a month…damn.
Jeff? If I could? I’d be there.
I’d have to lose Rush and Beck. It’s quite tempting? I’d need some source material first.
No. Nonononono. I want your political writing, mister. I’m trapped in a dirty socialist little country I don’t understand.
Help me.
Happy? I can help, no writing needed. Go back to Texas, buy guns and gold.
I’m gonna buy a little house in Kyle in 1Q or maybe 2Q next year I think. Don’t know if I’ll ever live in it but we’ll see.
Gawddamnit! I know I closed that blockquote!
Cripes-a-mighty.
thank you. That’s real anguish what I am trying to express. So much of this didn’t have to happen. Mr. Soros got his little feelings hurt and BAM we all have to pay.
What Auric Goldfinger wants, he gets. One way or another…
Good for you, Jeff, landing a paying gig.
Will this business model succeed? Is the target audience large enough to rake in subscribers, at that premium rate? Is that considered a premium rate to the target audience, I wonder?
I remember many years ago a friend (dead now, from a brain aneurysm) went through some interesting schemes to try to make money, including the Amway messtake. He told me, while trying to ‘recruit’ me, “if you sell to the classes, you’ll live with the masses. But sell to the masses, my friend, you’ll live…”.
That’s pretty much when the aneurysm took him. I’ll never know if he could have sold enough shampoo and conditioner and ‘most excellent washing powder EVAH!’ to live in Brentwood.
Congrats, boss!! A paying gig, alright.
I’m going to sign up but it will have to wait until mid-Nov – next pay cycle. Wow, private space, no trolls.
I’ve tried to read Mr. Lileks. Really, I have. I’ll bet there’s thousands of reasons why I should read him: he’s a gifted writer and all of that. But I just can’t read him, not even by playing tricksy on my brain and clicking into his site by proxy. Because he’s not enough a ragged edge to catch my interest.
I’m a huge fan of Harlan Ellison, for instance. Now there’s a writer who has an edge. Jeff, you’re much like Mr. Ellison, it seems to me. I can see paying you for to write, but I can’t see paying for any of the other writers on Core. Because there is absolutely no desire in me to read pablum.
So there you have it.
If it really goes to hell, black pepper is a good investment.
Gasoline. Lots and lots of gasoline. And soap.
If need be, you can always sell napalm.
I have enough parts and knowledge to make a still that will turn out a product that won’t kill people.
At least not right away.
Good point on the black pepper.
There’s a reason why Cristobal Columbo and his peers climbed onto those rickety-assed ships and headed off into the unknown. Pepper was a big part of it.
Coffee and sugar too.
Jeff,
Good luck & I hope that QOR will keep you in the bucks.
Being a simple soul, $20 a month (or $120 per year) is a little rich for my blood at this time but I look forward to seeing your stuff in the future through other outlets.
Ok..Daddy..I’m aboard..
Best of luck with your new venture, Jeff.
Did anyone find out how much a subscription costs at Qor? The site is not exactly that revealing on cost.
I too wish Jeff the best of luck. And I’m glad to learn that Jeff will get paid for each visit to his content, instead of having to share it with everybody else writing there. It does indeed make it more tempting. Unfortunately I still can’t afford it.
Best of luck, Jeff!
(just as an aside, though, I wouldn’t agree to this blind drunk)
I agree with SBP. An internet site is not Las Vegas and what happens there will not necessarily stay there.
I will simply continue to send what I do directly to Jeff G. Protein Wisdom and promise to buy in hardcopy anything he writes that is so published. I prefer paper to the computer screen though the Kindle is tempting.
Although, I thought the and replaced the comma in most circumstances.
It’s a stylistic thing. I believe the Chicago style guide omits the serial comma (after the and with three or more items), but I find that omission of same can lead to confusion if some of the items themselves contain an and.
It ends up being one of the first questions I have to ask when starting with a new client: Do they want us to use the serial comma or not? If they don’t care, I use it.
(
afterbefore the and with three or more items)FTFM.
Look. It’s 1 am and I had marshmallow ghosts for dinner.
Joe, they don’t tell you the subscription price until you click the link, but it appears to be $20 per month.
Well Damn! Another party I can’t get invited to unless I have cash. Just maybe I’ll have to hack my way in. OUTLAW!
Best of luck, buddy.
Best of luck in your new gig, Jeff.
Dammit! $20 a month? No one should be forced to decide between reading Goldstein and getting drunk! What with the downturn in the oil bidness I’m afraid I won’t be signing up any time soon. Sure hope it works out though as no one deserves a paying gig more.
And in the event that I need barter goods I’ve filled my basement with ammo and wine (and quite a bit of toilet paper and beer too!), so I can still get drunk if I so choose.
I’d say we’ll miss you, but you ain’t been around. So I should pay twenty bucks a month for something I can hardly remember? And get Lileks, too? BFD. Good luck, but it ain’t happening.
What do you mean “we,” Kenibania?
This is the thing you were working on last year that we all dumped on because it wasn’t free, right? Glad to see it’s moving forward. I’m intensely jealous, and will (at some point) subscribe.
And I mean that, it’s not my amazing, swine flu fighting, morning cocktail of black coffee, fish oil, vitamin C, Wal-phed and Adderall speaking. Mainly because that mixture made my oatmeal tell me to replace the storm doors and finish reading my library books. On a workday! You know it’s bad when your oatmeal becomes a slacker.
Could we chip in, like, a buck a month to a PayPal account and somebody could be the designated subscriber who could then post all of Jeff’s QOR content in a comment thread at PW?
It’d be illegal as hell, so we’d have to get somebody expendable. Maybe somebody from, say, Canada … or Idaho.
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btw – congrats, Jeff.
I’d say you’ll have a dickens of a time serializing your novel, but you know catch-wrestling.
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