Remember: it is okay to be “unhappy” with this. Even to express moderate “concern.”
But please. Try not to embarrass the legitimate and skilled public critics who’ve selected themselves to do your complaining for you. After all, while you mouth your rather coarse and uncouth hysterics, they are busy doing the real work of making the GOP safe for consensus-driven progressivism and a moralist-flavored multiculturalism.
We love your votes, people, don’t get us wrong. It’s just your voices that are kinda grating…*
(h/t Dan)
Actually we hate you viciously, and figure you are too stupid to notice how corrupt, venal and condescending we are.
I can’t remember all of the ten things I’m not supposed to say to mohammedans. Is “screw Allah” alright or not?
/sarc john d, sarc.
From Hughey Ross at the Creeping Sharia link:
“This sort of crap only goes to prove that obama is definitely a mainstream muslim in a jackass suit. The qoran clearly says that a muslim is not permitted to “leave†islam in favor of another religion. To do so is reason for immediate beheading (sharia law style). obama calls himself a Christian, yet has never had a fatwa or threat to his life for leaving islam. He’s an imposter with a goal of bankrupting America in hopes of turning us over to muslim rule. We Americans had better get our guns out and wise up to this take over.”
Obama: imposter Christian, poseur president, straight up asshole and a freaking dangerous man.
Well, that’s a bit too strong for my liking, VN.
#3 – I’m not sure Obama is a muslim, but his teleprompter sure the hell is. Every time he reads from it a market blows up.* (rim-shot)
*shamelessly stolen from Jim Treacher.
Er … sarc … LTC John. Sorry. Well not really.
Well they do elect some crazy people in Vermont.
“Screw Allah” is right on so many levels…
LYBD! Good to see you. Vermont – “He’s an imposter with a goal of bankrupting America in hopes of turning us over to muslim rule.” What, no connection with the Greys or the Trilateral Commission?
I think the current Presdient is doing quite enough to hurt the nation – economically, politically and culturally – without resorting to weird religious conspiracy motives.
duck, say whatever you want. If it is beyond the Pale (RACIST!!!) Jeff will deal with it. It is his house.
If he fails, America is saved.
Zen like.
But will you lose the middle?
Vermont Neighbor. Under a strict interpretation of Sharia law, Obama should have been raised Muslim like his father. But he wasn’t. His father left. His mom’s family was nominally religious and she seems more taken with being a child of the sixties and an athiest who eventually married another Muslim man from Indonesia. Obama almost got raised Muslim by his step father, but that does not seem to have taken either. Obama came back to the States, drifted around and eventually decided to be a Christian. While I do not particularly care for his spiritual father Jerimiah Wright, I will take Obama that he is a Christian.
The faith I question about Obama is his faith in government.
Excuse me, I will take Obama’s word that he is a Christian.
When Muslims can control crazies in their midst the way Jews, Christians and everyother religion controls their respective nutjobs, we can talk about mutual respect.
#13 – that is the main problem right now.
I love it when the Pragmatic Republicans tell us were deluded and nutty for calling O! a socialist when the Feds quite literally directing mergers between fiat and Chrysler, firing GM’s CEO and covering car warrantees. An Unpragmatic Republican might dare call this government control of the means of production.
Fortunately our betters are there to correct us and guide us back to the correct path.
Phil,
You’re welcome, now report to the re-education camp nearest you.
“Excuse me, I will take Obama’s word that he is a Christian.”
Who doesn’t particularly care all that much for white people, IMO. I’m sorry, is the liturgical root for that type of “Christianity” Old Testament or New?
“I think the current President is doing quite enough to hurt the nation – economically, politically and culturally – without resorting to weird religious conspiracy motives.”
Amen.
We can call a turd a turd without going all “Alex Jones.”
But just remember, all this fuss over the meaning of language is too academic. If you can’t clearly see that “Allah” is universal but “Jesus” is divisive and chauvinistic, you are part of the problem. Heads I win, tails you lose.
Devid et al,
Actually it’s much simpler than that, language is what ever our handlers in the MSM tell us it is, capiche?
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I have asked this question before but what would be the difference if he was a full on socialist?
The difference seems to me merely a question of who knows in the event he declares himself, Mr Pink, as opposed to the current condition where he doesn’t and in consequence can fool so many people. No?
I mean shouldn’t those pragmatic republicans, in all their wisdom and thoughtful non rage filled intelligence, be able to point out exactly what the differences would be? You know as like a list of things to point to, say Obama does A, B, and C, that would mean he was a socialist. Or is the term just off limits because it is scary.
LTC – Mohammedanism is NOT a race unless it is a race to insanity.
“Excuse me, I will take Obama’s word that he is a Christian.â€
Who gives a shit if he’s “Christian?” Or what the word even means to him for that matter. Concentrate on the steak, not the peas. Obama is socialist, narcissistic, petty and arrogant. But he’s also completely fucking incompetent. Which, given the fact they share the same traits, makes him FAR less dangerous than say Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Pelosi & Reid.
Charles Johnson will get quite the chuckle out of this I bet.
Thank Yahweh that that issue was cleared up by the courts.
Joe, thanks for the explanation. I respect that info and am now committed to censoring the inner extremist.
First. I’ve always read that the son of Muslim is a Muslim. He’s had years of support from Farrakhan and that circle, whom he and his wife socialize with. Obama’s 1st WH interview in office was not with an ally country or leader. The money he sent to Gaza – Hamas was… scary.
If the post above is backwoods, well my bad. What I see: his abortion votes and connection to the church make his Christian faith seem highly convenient (politically expedient).
Oh, great! Another reason to be deeply nauseous when I register Republican this spring to help defeat Gelatinous Traitor-Tool (Arlen Spector.) Where’s JD? I really need to know just what the hell is going on in Indiana.
No doubt our collegial albeit ball-less party socialites will take the high road and agree that a president, even our quasi socialist, should be able to nominate his own judges.
You know just like the Democrats did for Bush … weeping now …
Comment by Mr. Pink 10:57 am
I hear the same. I’ve never been there.
Is there really a need to rip on Patterico & friends so hard? OK, so he probably doesn’t understand the fundamentals of your argument Jeff or if he does he thinks you’re flat out wrong but regardless of that he’s still on “our” side even if he fights the battle in a way that isn’t always helpful. At some point after the bloodletting, peace will have to be made and the bonds of coalition reformed somehow and that means accepting not everyone gets it. Give them time.
Maybe someone could release a style guide for us. And then maybe someone could read it aloud to us.
Btw, I’m not sure on some of these Americanisms from the Economist’s guide. I didn’t realize we Yanks preferred “additionally” as compared to the Brit “and”.
beyond the Pale (RACIST!!!) is a joke – see Jeff’s post on Rep. Clyburn and his “code words”
Of course Islam is a religion not a race. And it should get razzed every bit as hard as any other here.
Who is ripping on that person, Black? This references David Horowitz’s article of yesterday.
Black, this need not refer to Patterico. Jeff doesn’t link or use his name.
Different people have different arguments and those general arguments are going to be referred to if we’re to speak about current events.
Who gives a shit if he’s “Christian?†Or what the word even means to him for that matter. Concentrate on the steak, not the peas. Obama is socialist, narcissistic, petty and arrogant.
Check. Enemy of my enemy = my friend, and all that.
But he’s also completely fucking incompetent. Which, given the fact they share the same traits, makes him FAR less dangerous than say Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Pelosi & Reid.
No, he wants you to believe he’s incompetent. Don’t. He’s the most dangerous dude of all, if you really, really think about it. They don’t take polls on the popularity of Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Pelosi or Reid, do they?
Since no other ideology has, in general, threatened to kill me (explicitly or otherwise), I reserve special “razzing” for the Mohammedans. I wish to be the opposite of a dhimmi. Is there a name for that?
37,
The opposite of a dhimmi is a rehpubbi.
dhimmi atoll
boom boom/ out go the lights
Fair enuff JBean, but the last group of folks pass laws that make the Founders puke. Obama just says shit occasionally and the market tanks (friggin’ further).
I just can’t buy into the whole, “Obama is so scary smart he wants you to think he’s incompetent, and knows you think you know, but he knows you think you know he knows, so he knows you think he knows that he knows you know…but you really don’t know.”
Don’t get me wrong. Teleprompter jesus has certainly mastered “3 card Monty,” but, still, every time he opens his mouth he proves he’s in waaaaay over his head.
I’m much more afraid of the pricks on the Hill.
And that dingus, Geithner.
kufir? I think the exact opposite of a dhimmi would be a very aggressive athiest or polythiest who actively tries to destroy anything Islamic it can reach? Think of a mob in Inda of nationalist Hindus destroying a 500 year old mosque. http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0129/p10s01-wosc.htm
In the judge’s defense, he pretty much said every religion except for Christianity is okay, not just Islam.
I’d also give him credit for not saying “Xtian”, but then, maybe he didn’t know how to spell it.
the bonds of coalition? How about everybody what hates living in a dirty socialist cesspool raises their hand? There’s your bonds of coalition I think. If you want it to be angsty we can give Peggy Noonan the conch, but the actual coalition process is fairly straightforward I think.
I tend to agree with Horowitz. The One may be trying to play The Messiah, but he ain’t one. Nor is he Satan. He’d like to be a Lightworker, but he isn’t one. He’s just a hopey changey filthy socialist dipshit and he’s sticking his dick in everything he can find.
Jimmy Carter with Bill Clinton’s libido isn’t supernatural. We’re just gonna need a rape kit, a nice hot shower and a hydrogen peroxide enema is all.
[…] The decline of the west continues apace, from that loon the ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY!1!!eleventy calling for acceptance of sharia law and thanking Muslims!!! for their “significant contribution to getting a debate about religion into public life.” No word on his opinion of the fact that the UN is busily outlawing dissent against Islam, thereby making this the fastest debate evar. We’re often advised how to not offend Muslims. I’ve yet to see an article published in the national/international press advising Muslims how to not offend people of other faiths. And here in the U.S. it’s Allah, yes; Jesus, no. […]
Pablo. You just violated Horowitz’s maxims by calling Obama the “s” word.
Sober, centrist. That’s Obama’s rhetoric.
Listen to him. Learn.
One peculiar aspect of Hamilton’s ruling is how he drew the line between “sectarian†and “non-sectarian†prayers. On the one hand, Hamilton made clear that prayers that “use Christ’s name or title†are sectarian. On the other hand, he ruled (on a post-judgment motion) that it is presumptively not sectarian for a Muslim imam to offer a prayer to “Allahâ€
So its okay to pray to Allah because he isn’t a real God? Is that what this clown is saying?
Does he say that elsewhere? Because he seems to be noticing the creeping filthy socialism.
He seems to be talking to, oh, Pam Geller, I guess.
“If and when the prayer practices in the Indiana House of Representatives ever seem to be advancing Islam, an appropriate party can bring the problem to the attention of this or another court.”
Sounds reasonable. But under our Muslim president, you say “allah,” and reason goes out the window.
Giving $900 million to Gaza + Hamas can also throw reason right out the window.
Sounds reasonable.
Hint: that would be because you are a stupid, lying fascist.
Hope that helps.
It p*ssed everyone when candidate McCain didn’t seize the issues. I denounce and censor myself here, but you know, during the blitz and then after. Especially after. Up until then, it seemed like possible election strategy… grab the moderates… don’t offend the independents.
Playing gracious and avoiding dirty tactics just did not close the deal. The roots lash out even more. More projection, more hostility. And now we’re fighting the urge to return the volley. Because it would be “like them.” It would be so BusHitler. Minus the fact we’ve never had anyone from either party with the ‘unique’ resume this guy carries.
Grr.
Man, and I thought
Liar.
You’ve never had an original thought in your life, SFAG.
Vermont he had me at “God damn the US of KKK”, not the muslim name.
Well I did get the idea from you.
“He did offer reward points for people who made blog comments. But you got to win mccain gear. Meh.”
Really so he was offering cash for people to say stuff on blogs? Wow where the hell did you pick that one up?
Wow where the hell did you pick that one up?
Easy, Mr. Pink. She is a serial liar.
Honest to allah, when GDAmerica came out I thought that’s it. This guy’s out. It was one seamy affiliation after another. Gaping holes of missing information, or info that was quickly dumped down the lost zone. I’m supposed to quietly point and murmur at Socialists scamming the system and shredding the constitution?
Yeah, no. I don’t care about his name or his young mother. She was either single (briefly) and then married Obama Sr. who was a serial husband. None of that matters.
You are missing something on the timeline. Not only did the GD America come out, but then the next week “I can no more disown him then my own grandmother.”. Then the week after that “That is not the Rev. Wright I knew”. After that the press disapeared the information and labled any mention of it racist, aided and abbeted by McCain. What a douchebag.
Meya do you realize that the link you gave never mentions that McCain told people to bring up Wright or Allah and also all but pales in comparison to Obama’s astroturfing? Hell I would say one branch of Acorn is more effective than the BS showed on your link.
“Meya do you realize that the link you gave never mentions that McCain told people to bring up Wright or Allah and also all but pales in comparison to Obama’s astroturfing? ”
I thought it was clear that I thought it was weak shit. But now obama ‘astroturfed.’
mighty meya has a wapo protest sign. the reporting could be biased?
no acorned
And Astroturfed.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php
“mighty meya has a wapo protest sign. the reporting could be biased?”
So now the mccain website did not say those things. Because the reporting could be biased. Niiiice.
if the wapo says that grandpa did say those things then stupid quote mc’old not wapo
mighty meya has a wapo protest sign
Mighty meya is a serial liar.
A clumsy one.
Also a fascist.
McCain lost. Let’s try to stay relevant.
What do you think it means when he calls Islam an non-secular religion meya.
That sequence was toxic, with the going back & forth on Wright. Twenty years at that church. “I know him, I don’t know him, Ayers who? Rezko, my poor judgment, not the person I knew.”
Are you really, really sure Obama isn’t the anti-Christ?
‘Cuz I’m getting to the point where I need to be reassured…
“if the wapo says that grandpa did say those things then stupid quote mc’old not wapo”
His campaign website is not there anymore, you know. Google should get you more hits contemporaneous to that wapo one. hell i think even slashdot covered it.
“What do you think it means when he calls Islam an non-secular religion meya.”
I’d think people would be up in arms over the fact that god was non-secular. I kind of see the point, though — god is so generic. But I don’t really follow that stuff. Or care.
meya be fucked up. Is all.
His campaign website is not there anymore, you know.
Get back on topic, SFAG, or STFU.
This thread isn’t about McCain.
“What do you think it means when he calls Islam an non-secular religion meya.â€
I’d think people would be up in arms over the fact that god was non-secular. I kind of see the point, though — god is so generic. But I don’t really follow that stuff. Or care.
Not God, meya. Allah. Do you think Allah is generic? Do you think Allah, or Islam, are non-secular? And once again: What do you think Hamilton means when he says that prayers to Allah are acceptable because they are non-secular?
“Do you think Allah is generic?”
Sure. Its how you translate god into arabic. Now, if you use the word with a sectarian intent…. like by saying how there is no god but god, and mohammed is his prophet…. now you’re not so generic.
“What do you think Hamilton means when he says that prayers to Allah are acceptable because they are non-secular?”
I think he means that if all you know is that its a prayer to allah, then thats the same as a prayer to god. Which is apparently non-sectarian. But the moment it advances islam, go ahead and complain.
pretty simple.
See, Jesus is who Christians name when praying for their enemies. Allah is who is named when Muslims are sawing off someones head.
So obviously Allah is secular.
Get it?
If we somehow convinced meya that the Constitution was a prayer, do you think you would read it this strictly?
He/she would read it this strictly, I meant to say.
“Sure. Its how you translate god into arabic. Now, if you use the word with a sectarian intent…. like by saying how there is no god but god, and mohammed is his prophet…. now you’re not so generic.”
Wow. Are you this stupid?
Are you actually attempting to make us believe that you would support someone using the word “Jesus” as part of a public function, provided that it was non-proselytizing?
Because, guess what? I don’t believe you.
Wow. Are you this stupid?
She is, in fact, that stupid. Also a fascist. Also a serial liar.
But is she ugly, too?
“Are you actually attempting to make us believe that you would support someone using the word “Jesus†as part of a public function, provided that it was non-proselytizing?”
‘support’? I’ve listened to plenty about jesus that was non-prosletyzing. Some of it quite interesting. I think you’re not getting whats going on: Prayers to god aren’t sectarian, because god is non-specific. Prayers to Jesus or Mohammed are, because those are for particular sects.