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Porkulus Package Heads Obamitarian Faith-Based Initiatives [Dan Collins]

Warner Todd Huston:

The Associated Press is reporting that Barack Obama has today announced that he is “expanding” the faith based initiatives program that George W. Bush started during his tenure. Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations “no matter their religious or political beliefs.”

In other words, now faith based funding will go to groups like ACORN (the Association of Community Activists for Reform Now), the group that has for the last decade or so been involved in massive voter fraud all across the country.

The question becomes, how is this still a “faith based” program? Isn’t it now just an average everyday pork plan that covers just any old community organization that the government wants to fund? This change would be like taking funding for the beef industry and covering pork, chicken and fish producers too. In other words, it wouldn’t be the beef industry plan anymore.

You’re kidding, right Warner Todd?

Look! Bunnies!

David Brooks: Obama could transsubstantiate this shit sandwich into pastrami on rye

Tapscott: Audit all their asses and make the results public; sounds like that ought to get some funding from the Omnibus Bum And Mouth Activites.

251 Replies to “Porkulus Package Heads Obamitarian Faith-Based Initiatives [Dan Collins]”

  1. Techie says:

    “Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations “no matter their religious or political beliefs.””

    I’m torn between mourning even more spending!, but curious to see how this isn’t a sign of the THEOCRACY that gripped the nation under the Chimperor’s domination.

  2. happyfeet says:

    “Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations “no matter their religious or political beliefs.””

    I think this is one of those when you only have a hammer things.

  3. Rob Crawford says:

    I think this is one of those when you only have a hammer things.

    I dunno. He might also have a sickle.

  4. Techie says:

    BTW: Are the comments acting funny for anyone else tonight? I’ve had several attempted posts disappear into the electronic miasma.

  5. McGehee says:

    He might also have a sickle.RACIST!

  6. Phil says:

    Was on a brief hiatus for a few days and it looks like everything’s turned to shit. Putting the left-right politics aside here, if thor, parsnip and the other assorted liberals were honest with themselves, they’d admit that the criticisms of Obama on lack of executive experience and lack of leadership qualities were dead on and are on prominent display during these past two weeks of hopey changiness. Folks, we elected a man who talks nice. That’s about it. Then you throw the left-right politics back in and realize that this guy is a Jimmy Carter wannabe and you have a true disaster in the making (even Jimmah was at least a Governah at one point).

    Baracky is seriously going to go down as one of the worst presidents in US history. I’ll give it a year or so and i’ll even put money down to put my money where my mouth is. I’m actually embarrassed we elected this man as our President. If he worked for me, I would have fired him already for being in WAY over his head.

  7. Bob Reed says:

    Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations ‘no matter their religious or political beliefs.’

    Our new Chimperor isn’t going to rest until he has exploited every possible avenue to pay off his brownshirts and cronies; by whatever means necessary!

    It’s just another disingenuous connivance; one designed to affirm that community mau-mau groups are the moral equivalent of traditional faith based charities…

    But, you know, any pork in a storm…

  8. Dan Collins says:

    But he does work for you, Phil. Just ask him.

    Then bow down to your imperfect instrument!!!

  9. Ryan Seacrest says:

    Keep it up with this questioning of The Savior, Dan.
    Debbie Stabanow has a plan for you, too!

  10. Dan Collins says:

    I hear Granholm is being considered for the Supremes if Bader-Ginsberg retires, Ryan. I think it’s awesome how Obama keeps promoting the key figures of the best-run state in the entire Union. It is an inspiration for us all at this time of potentially dire economic calamity.

  11. Techie says:

    Seeing how well Debbie’s plans have worked for the state of Michigan, I’m not planning on losing much sleep.

  12. Techie says:

    Yes, I’d love to see Obama try and ram a political hack through a SCOTUS confirmation hearing. We could dissuade her by stating that there aren’t many opportunities for photo-ops at roadside construction projects when you’re on the Federal Bench.

    It’s like he’s putting all his political capital in a 55 gal drum and pouring kerosene on it. You wanna say something, but you kinda want to watch the flames too.

  13. Dan Collins says:

    Techie, if he runs out of political capital, he’ll just print more.

  14. Rob Crawford says:

    Folks, we elected a man who talks nice.

    When he’s got a teleprompter in front of him. Without it, he sounds like Caroline Kennedy.

  15. Phil says:

    But he does work for you, Phil. Just ask him.

    Then bow down to your imperfect instrument!!!

    Well let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I haven’t signed my loyalty oath just yet. Where exactly do I sign up on ACORN’s website anyway?

  16. Techie says:

    I mean, on the serious side, the Spendulus Bill could easily stall out. What if the House and Senate fail to reach a compromise/joint version? Then what? He’d have to continue on with confirmation hearings with the very public wreckage around it all. Nancy Pelosi would smell blood in the water.

    I expected the Obama Administration to flame out at some point, but I wasn’t expecting it to potentially be within 4 weeks of the Inauguration.

  17. Dan Collins says:

    Spendulus won’t stall out. It would require too many politicians who can’t be bribed.

  18. Phil says:

    I expected the Obama Administration to flame out at some point, but I wasn’t expecting it to potentially be within 4 weeks of the Inauguration.

    People in over their head can usually fake it for a little while before people realize otherwise.

    As President, not so much. This guy isn’t qualified to run my dishwasher, let alone my country.

  19. Dan Collins says:

    Obama’s going to tell them, in effect, that those who don’t get on board aren’t going to get an equivalent quantity of pork.

  20. Phil says:

    We really are truly fucked with this clown:

    U.S. mortgage rates jumped to their highest levels since December in the latest week, complicating government efforts to bring mortgage rates down to levels that will spur demand and help the hard-hit housing market begin to recover.

    Interest rates on U.S. 30-year fixed-rate mortgages rose to 5.25 percent for the week ending Feb. 5, up from the previous week’s 5.10 percent, according to a survey released on Thursday by home funding company Freddie Mac.

    The recent rise in mortgage rates can be tied to U.S. Treasury yields, which are linked to mortgage rates. Treasury yields have risen sharply on fears over surging debt issuance to fund a ballooning budget gap and an array of government rescue programs.

    We clearly need more money for condoms.

  21. daleyrocks says:

    I’m not 100% convinced Obama even knows what’s in the Stimulus Bill. It seems like he’s just trying to vote present while talking out of both sides of his mouth. He’s fear mongering like hell about the need to get something done quickly and the time for talk being over. On the other hand he keeps talking about wanting to improve the bill. How can people improve the bill if they are not talking? Who knows?

    Is Obama expending and Executive leadership or political capital on how to improve the bill? Not in any noticeable way. Gibbs on NPR yoday apparently didn’t have much to say according to the summary I read. Obama is just waving his hands at Congress and saying write something and I’ll pass it, I’ll blame you guys later if people don’t like it because we had to do something quickly. IOW, voting present.

  22. Dan Collins says:

    I’m not so sure I like “Porkulus” or “Spendulus”. Maybe we should call it the Omnibus Assfucking Measures.

  23. thor says:

    Squeak, squeak, yada, yada, as of now Obama you rethuglidums are on a choke collar; the harder you pull from Obama’s side the more strained and labored your voices become until whimpering squeaks is all you can muster.

    Cleaning out all the hampers of shitted diapers the rethuglidums left behind will take some time.

  24. thor says:

    Squeak, squeak, yada, yada, as of now you rethuglidums are on a choke collar

  25. Obamnibus. He doesn’t really have a good track record with buses.

  26. daleyrocks says:

    Dan – The back door references are all good because we can keep up the stream of pinching it off, squeezing it out, etc., dialogue if you catch my drift.

  27. Phil says:

    Thor,

    I suggest you check my previous comment (#21). That was dated…today. Now remind me who the President who wants to spend $900 billion dollars on lots of unnecessary shit is again? I know it’s not BOOOSH because he’s out of office now. I’ll get back to you once I figure this out.

    “We have to making housing unaffordable (via increasing mortgage rates due to rapidly increasing government debt) in order to save it.”

  28. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Dan Collins on 2/5 @ 10:43 pm #

    I’m not so sure I like “Porkulus” or “Spendulus”. Maybe we should call it the Omnibus Assfucking Measures.

    Sure, the package is a little too Reagananomonkey/Bushporklicus for my taste, but what they hell, it’s only borrowed money.

  29. thor says:

    Mmm, I don’t play well with stupid fucks, Phil. I’ll be the first to admit that.

    How much of the stimulus package is tax cuts? Now shut off your rethuglidum night bulb.

  30. Phil says:

    I think this really goes back to the fact that Baracky really started falling in love with himself due to the media adoration.

    “I’ll go meet with those Republicans and I’ll listen to them. I won’t actually do one iota of what they suggest but I’ll listen real good. And then I’ll talk nice and well, that seems to have worked well so far.”

    I think Baracky really thought the R’s were all going to vote for this POS bill, he’d sign it, get his photo op and then start wire transferring the money OVER to ACORN pronto. These kinds of things tend to happen when you’re in way over your head.

    M.I.S.E.R.A.B.L.E. F.A.I.L.U.R.E.

  31. Bob Reed says:

    How much of the stimulus package is tax cuts?”

    Certainly not as much as it is unnecessary spending and disingenuously concealed new entitlements…

    I wonder why the one! won’t separate the bills; one of pure stimulus measures and another of new programs..?

    But then, I guess that would be letting a good crisis go to waste, wouldn’t it…

  32. geoffb says:

    “Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations ‘no matter their religious or political beliefs.’”

    Isn’t PW an organization of sorts. I’m sure there has to be a spare $100,000,000.00 somewhere to fund the marvelous work in language studies carried out by that wizard Jeff G.

    DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!

  33. thor says:

    Later this year we’ll be selling paper in a market that’ll see many other govt’s floating large debt deals. That and the stock markets around the world have gone into a sideways pattern and that’s released some of the downward rate pressure from scared money.

    Thanks to Bush’s massive borrowing, we aren’t the safest game in town anymore. We’ll be competing against other economies that weren’t freakin’ buried in debt.

    BTW, the free market sets the treasury rates. Blame it.

  34. JohnAnnArbor says:

    “Obama now intends to offer cash support to organizations “no matter their religious or political beliefs.”

    Wait until the Scientologists apply for cash.

    Maybe that would be good, though. Could we get the Obama administration to remove their official “religion” status and tax them backwards and forwards?

  35. geoffb says:

    We here in Michigan, being the new Arkansas of this era, wish to thank all the rest of the people of this great country for helping to remove some of our incompetent political hacks by promoting them up and out of Michigan.

    They will soon be a problem for all. Thank you.

  36. Topsecretk9 says:

    This administration is a miserable failure. It’s embarrassing actually. I mean all these European countries bought into all the instant brilliance of the O’s touch and then we were all supposed to be loved and admired again. He’s sick of the White House already and went to read My Pet Goat when all his appointments went nuclear.

    They must be thinking all they got was the lousy T-Shirt.

  37. Phil says:

    Later this year we’ll be selling paper in a market that’ll see many other govt’s floating large debt deals. That and the stock markets around the world have gone into a sideways pattern and that’s released some of the downward rate pressure from scared money.

    Thanks to Bush’s massive borrowing, we aren’t the safest game in town anymore. We’ll be competing against other economies that weren’t freakin’ buried in debt.

    BTW, the free market sets the treasury rates. Blame it.

    A wonderful time to be massively expanding entitlements, isn’t it? When Bush expanded entitlements, he was criticized for it by us (and rightly so). When Obama does it, the Left’s only regret is that he isn’t entitling more. All the Left’s criticisms about deficits under BOOOSH are going to fall on deaf ears when they start defending TRILLION dollar deficits (and you know they will too).

    Yes the market sets treasury rates based on several factors – one being the likelihood that the lender is going to get paid back at some point by the borrower and not just default. Apparently they don’t think Baracky walks on water. Why do treasury rates hate Baracky?

    Thor, meet facts. Facts, meet Thor. It appears the two of you have just met.

  38. daleyrocks says:

    Phil – Baracky kind of turtles thor’s head in and out of his squeek hole on an as needed basis if you haven’t noticed. Shit covered situational politics and ethics at its finest. Wipe as required.

  39. parsnip says:

    Oh My Gawd!1!11!

    Is this the start of the long awaited steel cage match between the Biblehumperers and the Fiscal Conservatives?????

  40. thor says:

    Phil, you’re pig ignorant and a bad liar.

  41. Joe says:

    You just can’t get enough of it! Ignore those Democratic Senators and two Republicans in Washington.

  42. Joe says:

    Comment by thor on 2/6 @ 12:14 am #

    Phil, you’re pig ignorant and a bad liar.

    thor? Pig ignorant?

    Remember Arnold from Green Acres? He was really smart. And I think Phil is pretty darn smart too.

    Phil knows a Denny Grand Slam, Jimmy Dean, Pork-o-rama, Smithfield Smorgasborg, Vegas Bacon Buffet, Piggly Wiggly, Jones Farm, Mother of All Sows, The Other White Meat, Bratwurst Allah Be Praised, Pork-a-Thon when he sees it.

    I can smell the bacon when I open the front door. Try it. I bet you can too.

  43. Topsecretk9 says:

    Peeps

    Thor is still lusting after Todd Plain’s underpants…I just do not get why peeps care what shedar and the tuber say? It’s not like they come from open air comment sections. They retreat to hermetically sealed, tightly controlled echo chambers.

    They have ZERO clout.

  44. alppuccino says:

    Etta James rocks!!

    Go buy her music.

  45. Rusty says:

    Floating paper that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, that no one wants to buy.

    Zimbabwe on the Potomac.

  46. B Moe says:

    Is this the start of the long awaited steel cage match between the Biblehumperers and the Fiscal Conservatives?????

    Because there sure as hell ain’t gonna be any debate on your side, huh, tuberhead? You and thor’s choke collars are a good fit, I hope.

  47. serr8d says:

    @19 Spendulus breasts, with no photo link? for SHAME!

    Zimbabwe on the Potomac

    Mugabe and Obama: Brothers in strongarm?

  48. N. O'Brain says:

    “Thanks to Bush’s massive borrowing,…..”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!

    Oh, hor, you are just such an ignorant fuck.

    IT’S NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!! is the typical reactionary leftist answer when you point their mind-numbing level of hypocrisy.

    For example, the level of debt that the current administration is going to rack up will make all of the past administration’s overspending seem like a college kids maxed out $3,000 Visa card.

    And all crazy unmedicated thor can do is stand on the street corner screaming at the top of his lungs “REDUMBLICAN!!!!!!!111!!!eleven!!!!”

  49. N. O'Brain says:

    “They must be thinking all they got was the lousy T-Shirt.”

    Mine reads “Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him!”

  50. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos!”

  51. B Moe says:

    How much of the stimulus package is tax cuts?

    How many of the tax cuts are to people who don’t pay taxes?

  52. N. O'Brain says:

    here, hor, government springs into action:

    Sheer Genius: UK Creates New Biometric Cards, Forgets About Scanners to Read Them

    http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/02/sheer-genius-uk-creates-new-biometric.html

    Government, there ANYTHING it can’t do?

  53. N. O'Brain says:

    That’s why our resident reactionary leftists are such fools: they actually believe in government.

    Fools.

  54. Phil says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090206/pl_politico/18482

    Baracky is angry:

    “What do you think a stimulus is?” Obama asked incredulously. “It’s spending — that’s the whole point! Seriously.”

    Stabbing hard at Republicans who once aligned themselves with his predecessor, Obama made it clear that the problems he seeks to address with his recovery plan weren’t ones of his making.

    “When you start hearing arguments, on the cable chatter, just understand a couple of things,” he said. “No. 1, when they say, ‘Well, why are we spending $800 billion [when] we’ve got this huge deficit?’ – first of all, I found this deficit when I showed up, No. 1.

    “I found this national debt, doubled, wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office.”

    After his remarks, Obama, clearly caught up in the moment, made the party get-together feel even more like a campaign rally with his signature call-and-response chant.

    “Fired up?” he asked the Democratic lawmakers. “Ready to go!” a group of them shouted back.

    Baracky really has no idea how to be President so we’re back to the Permanent Campaign.

    Hey liberals, you can PASS this bill on a party line vote! Remember, “you won” and elections have consequences, right?

    Go pass your POS bill, but you will 100% ownz it yourself. Baracky knows this bill is a sham (and now very unpopular) so he’s just looking for GOP cover. It’s really still part of the whole Permanent Campaign thing.

    No more voting “present”. This guy really has no clue what he’s doing, does he?

  55. happyfeet says:

    He is so very clueless, Phil.

    “What do you think a stimulus is?” Obama asked incredulously. “It’s spending — that’s the whole point! Seriously.”

    That reads like a line from Winnie the Pooh.

  56. happyfeet says:

    the wonderful thing about spending, is spending’s a wonderful thing

  57. Carin says:

    Shorter Baracky: pay no attention to all this money I’m spending; the government I’m growing. Focus on BOOOOOSH!.

  58. Carin says:

    Jenny was in Washington to watch Baracky sign the child-healthcare thing, so I’m sure she advised him to focus. BLAME YOUR PREDECESSOR for everything. She was really good at that.

    Q – why the hell was Jenny in Washington to watch him sign that bill? Doesn’t she have other “issues” she should be focusing on? And, I’m just wondering … how do you think she got to Washington? You think she drove herself in one of those hybrid cars? Perhaps she rode her bike ….

  59. B Moe says:

    “Fired up?” he asked the Democratic lawmakers. “Ready to go!” a group of them shouted back.

    Barracky: JUMP!

    Democrats: HOW HIGH?

    Barracky: JUMP!

    Democrats: HOW HIGH?

    Barracky: JUMP!

    Parsnip: HOW HIGH?

    Barracky: JUMP!

    thor: HOW HIGH?

  60. thor says:


    Comment by N. O’Brain on 2/6 @ 7:10 am #

    For example, the level of debt that the current administration is going to rack up will make all of the past administration’s overspending seem like a college kids maxed out $3,000 Visa card.

    You’ve followed “for example” with no example at all. It’s as if you don’t speak English.

    Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George Bush, the axis of U.S. debt.

    Poor pig-ignorant P’brain, too unaware of himself.

  61. thor says:

    #

    Comment by N. O’Brain on 2/6 @ 7:22 am #

    That’s why our resident reactionary leftists are such fools: they actually believe in government.

    Fools.

    Your son, he works for the government, no?

  62. Carin says:

    Just about anyone in the military would acknowledge that there are huge inefficiencies and waste. Unfortunately, there is no other manner in which to run it.

  63. Carin says:

    Meaning, the military cannot be privately run.

  64. TheGeezer says:

    Communism and Socialism are both faith-based with the added bonus of being empirical (as in “historical”) failures. Yet the believers hang on, as in Michael Hirsh: “When you are dealing with a stimulus of this size, there are going to be wasteful expenditures and boondoggles. There’s no way anyone can spend $800 to $900 billion quickly without waste and boondoggles. It comes with the Keynesian territory. This is an emergency; the normal rules do not apply.”

    Damn the cronyism and waste!! Full spending ahead!!

  65. thor says:


    Comment by Carin on 2/6 @ 7:32 am #

    Q – why the hell was Jenny in Washington to watch him sign that bill? Doesn’t she have other “issues” she should be focusing on? And, I’m just wondering … how do you think she got to Washington? You think she drove herself in one of those hybrid cars? Perhaps she rode her bike ….

    I’m going to guess Jenny got to Washington the same way Sarah Palin did when she attended a party a week ago, namely, by plane. Sarah was gushing to meet the new President.

  66. Techie says:

    President Winnie-the-Pooh.

    —————————-

    Sir, the Republican delegation wants to change the focus of the bill towards less liberal wishlists and more actual productive measures, or something.

    Pres. WtP: Oh, bother……..

  67. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by thor on 2/6 @ 7:54 am #

    National defense is a legitimate function of the Federal government, asshole.

    Handing out condoms isn’t.

  68. N. O'Brain says:

    “When government does, occasionally, work, it works in an elitist fashion. That is, government is most easily manipulated by people who have money and power already. This is why government benefits usually go to people who don’t need benefits from government. Government may make some environmental improvements, but these will be improvements for rich bird-watchers. And no one in government will remember that when poor people go bird-watching they do it at Kentucky Fried Chicken.”

    — P. J. O’Rourke

  69. Pablo says:

    “You can’t stay in your corner of the Forest waiting for others to come to you. You have to go to them sometimes. And tell them ‘I won. So I think I trump you on that.'” – Baracky the Pooh

  70. Techie says:

    Why should Barack put tax cuts in the bill? It’s not like Democrats actually pay taxes, apparently.

  71. N. O'Brain says:

    “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.”

    -Tom Clancy

  72. Carin says:

    I believe Jenny’s met Obama. Remember, she was part of his transition team? She was one of his (bah ahh ahaa) economic advisors.

  73. Pablo says:

    Why should Barack put tax cuts in the bill? It’s not like Democrats actually pay taxes, apparently.

    That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t write them checks, does it?

  74. N. O'Brain says:

    “Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.”

    -P.J. O’Rourke

  75. Techie says:

    Turns out, after last nights speeches, “We have chosen hope over fear!” had a operational lifetime of ~2.5 weeks.

    New motto: Choose Fear, or we’re all doomed! DOOOOOOOOOOMED.

  76. thor says:

    “Republican Presidents of late were good at borrowing and spending trillions of dollars, taking away freedoms and killing people. They weren’t good at much else.”

    thor

  77. Carin says:

    Did Jenny fly commercial like she advised the automakers?

    and when they return to Washington on Dec. 2 to make that case, they had better fly commercial, Granholm said Friday.

    Honestly, I can’t understand why these liberal politicians are always flying everywhere, what with the Climate change. Can’t they teleconference or something.

    THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

  78. Techie says:

    Conservative Democrats in the House are pushing back against their leaders’ economic stimulus plan even as President Obama steps up his push for the spending package.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/blue-dogs-push-back-against-stimulus-2009-02-05.html

    Does this count as “bipartisanship”? Don’t they know the time for talk is over??

  79. Rob Crawford says:

    “I found this national debt, doubled, wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office.”

    So clearly the thing to do is to make it a bigger problem.

    Asshat.

  80. Carin says:

    I think the Obama Administration has given up all pretense of being bipartisan. They’ve wallowed into full “the Republicans are wrong about everything” territory.

  81. Carin says:

    I think it time for more of that “it’s time to come together” bullshit.

  82. Pablo says:

    It’s time to come together and do things my way. Cracka.

  83. N. O'Brain says:

    The funny, funny thing on this thread is reactionary leftists getting diaper rash over deficit spending.

    It’s what Dimocrats do.

    At least when Bush was doing it there were Republican voices warning and cajoling him on the bad outcome of overspending, but with O!bama, that’s not a bug, that’s a feature.

  84. JHoward says:

    Damn that interstate commerce clause. Is there nothing it can’t do?

    Won’t be long we’ll have government lobbying itself. Oh, wait.

  85. Techie says:

    This is an emergency. The normal rules don’t apply here.

  86. thor says:

    Comment by N. O’Brain on 2/6 @ 8:27 am #

    The funny, funny thing on this thread is reactionary leftists getting diaper rash over deficit spending.

    It’s what Dimocrats do.

    You do know Bill Clinton was a Democrat, right?

    “I’ve got to say that the 2006 midterm elections made me very upset at the Republicans. I mean, Jack Abramoff, Bob Ney, Randy “Duke” Cunningham, Tom DeLay, Mark Foley. The electorate was almost too nauseated to make it to the polls to vote Democratic.”

    P.J. O’Rourke

  87. MarkD says:

    When even the CBO says the bill is bad for the economy, the scam is over. This thing has the chances of a bacon wrapped mouse in a cage of hungry cats.

    Voting for this thing is like making a donation to your opponent’s campaign. Your own neutral advisors said it will be harmful, it was, and you voted for it? Why? Campaign over.

  88. Techie says:

    [The president should read the transcript of the third presidential debate. He claimed his program represented “a net spending cut.” He called himself “a strong proponent of pay-as-you-go. Every dollar that I’ve proposed, I’ve proposed an additional cut so that it matches.” He added, “We need to eliminate a whole host of programs that don’t work.”

    Now, circumstances change, and no president can adhere to every jot and tittle from his campaign, but the “I won” argument only works if the campaign program matches the governing program. Obama himself seems confused on what exactly “I won” means.

    In a meeting with congressional Republicans, he brandished “I won” as a defense of his version of tax relief. But he later used “I won” to push back against an excessive reliance on tax cuts, claiming that it had been repudiated during the campaign even though he talked every day on the trail of cutting taxes for “95 percent of working people” and never once mentioned a commitment to extreme deficit spending.]

    Rich Lowery.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDYzZTU5OTQxNDUxMDU1YzM1MGJhNzg2M2U2NDljZTk=

    This is not the The One Lightworker that we thought we knew……..

    (Well, WE knew what was going on, apparently others may be catching on.)

  89. Carin says:

    O’Brain, the funny thing is that I heard from more than one Obama voter that deficit spending was THE reason they were voting against Bush for Obama. Yet, all that outrage has disappeared down the memory hole, or at least turned into a selective outrage.

    I mean, Obama has no choice but to spend all this money we don’t have BECAUSE OF WHAT BUSH HAS DONE. I see the correlation. $600 million is needed for new Federal hybrid cars because … DAMN THAT BUSH!

  90. Dan Collins says:

    See, the thing is, Carin, that federal employees are more likely to take really good care of those vehicles, because they belong to the American public.

  91. JHoward says:

    My local paper advises me — that’s all they do nowadays: advise me — that some faintly question The President’s American Stimulus Plan of Hope and Apple Pie and that of questioning questioners, Rethuglicans question most, although from a decided and distinct minority of less than 52% majority.

    President the Artist Formerly Known as the Holder of The Office of the President Elect O!bama assures us that money solves everything, notwithstanding that $400mm of it would go to funding more of God Love Ya Biden’s lovely, fragrant, and erstwhile VAWA.

    VAWA, for the politically malastute, is that measly gazillion dollar package of ribbons and bows aimed at franchising misandry not only in this fair land but abroad, no pun intended.

    I say we revive those two-line tax returns. And none too soon; this is getting serious. You’re welcome.

  92. Techie says:

    Question: Which party controlled Congress during the entirety of Reagan and Bush the Elder’s terms.

    Why, The Democrats controlled the House, you know, the chamber that all spending bills originate in, the entire term. The Republicans had the Senate until the 1986 mid-terms then the Democrats controlled both until 1994, Clinton’s first mid-term.

    Imagine that. It’s a terrible burden to be cursed with a memory.

  93. thor says:

    “No one on the corner has swagga like us
    Hit me on my burner, prepaid wireless
    We pack and deliver like UPS trucks
    Already going to hell just pumping that gas”

    M.I.A.

  94. N. O'Brain says:

    “You do know Bill Clinton was a Democrat, right?”

    See comment 94.

    Moron.

  95. JHoward says:

    Clinton

    Don’t make me lecture you on 20th Century American governments and budgets again, thor. I was right the last time you trotted out that canard and naturally you’ll be successively wrong should I elect to do so again, you most foolish paperhanger.

    I understand snotty’s self-loathing lends it energy for any manner of chronic public foolishness. If I cared about your similar fate I’d recommend you not follow in that slime trail. If.

  96. N. O'Brain says:

    Here’s a question: where DID the Republicans lose their way as far as fiscal sanity is concerned?

  97. Techie says:

    Also, sorry thor, but The One Lightworker has declared “spending == stimulus”.

    [Obama rejected calls for more tax cuts and significant slashing of the bill’s more than $800 billion price tag, and said complaints the package was a spending bill rather than a stimulus bill were off base.

    “What do you think a stimulus bill is?” he said. “That’s the point.”]

    You should be praising Bush for his hard work, which pale in comparison to what Obama has got planned for us.

  98. Techie says:

    Hard to say, NOBrain, but generally it’s pegged ~1999, when Newt Gingrich was given the bums rush out of the party leadership, and the notion of “Compassionate Conservatism” took root in his absence.

  99. Bob Reed says:

    Interested in what Mr. Liberal Fascism has to say about the porkulus package..?

    http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=OGUwZjlkZWE1YWNkYmVjMzQ4YTI4ZWRmMDhlODVhMmU=

    Good stuff…Folks might get some insight…

  100. TheGeezer says:

    This is not the The One Lightworker that we thought we knew……..

    When does the O throw himself under the bus?

  101. thor says:

    Techie, you’re not the smart one.

    Unemployment hit 7.6% this morning, and that’s the official number, you know, calculated the new way so as to water down the real rate.

    Suckle and chortle at those tax cuts in the current “spending” bill, isn’t that what you little boys did for fun back when it wasn’t needed, remember such, Mr. Memory Hole? Now that our economy is toasted from the wittle boy wethuglidums spending for bridges to no-where, we need to put those unemployeds back to work.

    You do understand the death spiral of unemployment, no? I’ll try to explain this in simple terms so as not to confuse you, a water-brained weedumblican. The unemployed pay no taxes because they have no job but they continue to use government services. The effect of increasing unemployment is a reduced tax base and increasing social services payments such as unemployment benefits and food stamps. There are times when the government pushes money into the economy to help reduce unemployment so as to stop the economic death spiral it causes. This is one of those times.

    I’d like to continue to educate you, but I have to get to work.

  102. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Wow. Epic fail for thor this thread. He admits, and gently disparages it, that Obama is duplicating similar strategies of the Bush administration in terms of ridiculous spending. It seems Thor just REALLY likes black men and hates white republicans and most women. Interesting.

    This “faith based” funding thing has got to be troubling for the real left. I have a relative (atheist) that hated Bush, mainly due to his religiosity. One of my relative’s biggest points of hate was Bush’s pushing of faith based initiatives. The federal spending on local problems? He loved that shit, but to those awful godbothering dumbfucks? I think I’ll call this relative (he loved himself some Obama!) and get his twisted take on this horsehit. Full disclosure: I’m not in favor of federal funding for faith based initiatives solely on federalist principles.

  103. Techie says:

    Comrade Salazar pulled exploratory natural gas leases in Colorado, Utah and Wyoming this past week. We aren’t drilling anywhere new in this country for a looong time. We build no new refining capacity. The Watermelon Greenies won’t let any new Nuclear plants or hydroelectric dams be built.

    But Obama says we’re going to “break the tyranny of oil in our time”.

    Riiiiiight, I guess The One Lightworker wills it so. What if I’m from a warmer climate and like having my thermostat turned up?

    History is repeating as farce.

  104. Dan Collins says:

    I think Congress needs a 12-step program.

  105. Bob Reed says:

    Clinton balanced the budget, and alleged more, by co-opting the FICA tax surplus into the general fund…

    So all this talk about Boooooooosh! blowing some surplus that had been raided from social security anyway is just a lot of blather…

    As always…

  106. thor says:

    Nah, what America needs is to take a two-by-four to the free-market mouseketeers whose empty-headed smaller gov’t cliches and CEO pay worship and ear-marky-mark porkonomics caused the fall of our great economy.

    Smash! Upon their crowns!

    Filthy fuckin’ liars and swindlers. Medieval punishments for Phil Gramm and his airport bathroom boys, that’s the answer.

  107. Carin says:

    ’ll try to explain this in simple terms so as not to confuse you, a water-brained weedumblican. The unemployed pay no taxes because they have no job but they continue to use government services. The effect of increasing unemployment is a reduced tax base and increasing social services payments such as unemployment benefits and food stamps. There are times when the government pushes money into the economy to help reduce unemployment so as to stop the economic death spiral it causes

    So, the 600 million for fed hybrid Cars? $500 million for the Arts? $300 Million for violence against women programs? $650 mill for digital-tv coupons? $88 million to move teh PUblic health service into a new building (I assume they’re using something other than 2 men and a truck?) Untold Billions on green bullshit? A billion for the census?

    How is this emergency stimulus stuff?

  108. Techie says:

    In December 1982, unemployment rates peaked at ~10.8%

    Reagan responded with an across the board tax cut of 20-25%. (Later, several business taxes would be re-raised, but the Administration refused to move the income taxes)

    Within two years, the unemployment rate was back down to ~6.5 – 7.0%, and by 4 years, between ~5.7 and 6.0%.

    Again, this terrible curse called a memory.

  109. Techie says:

    Unless you now want to reclaim defense spending as “Stimulus”, in a change from last night.

  110. McGehee says:

    I for one welcome our new incompetent dumbass overlords.

  111. B Moe says:

    The government doesn’t create jobs, the government creates work. Jobs are self sustaining, work is not. Jobs generate income which creates more jobs, work lasts until the money runs out, then you are unemployed again.

    The only way to stimulate the economy is to make it easier for employers to grow their companies. Where in Obama’s plan is that happening?

  112. thor says:

    Awww, Carin’s gonna cry. Her weethuglidum porknozzle won’t squirt weethuglidum pork no more. The Democrats are going to fund the NEA instead of building prisons and then letting private companies swindle the tax-payer with contractual prison management bribe and kick-back schemes. Tissue for Carin, please!

  113. Rob Crawford says:

    There are times when the government pushes money into the economy to help reduce unemployment so as to stop the economic death spiral it causes

    They could do it more effectively, more quickly, and more in compatibility with being a nation of free people by cutting taxes.

    How much could corporate taxes be cut for the cost of this “stimulus”?

  114. N. O'Brain says:

    “I’d like to continue to educate you, but I have to get to work.”

    Wow, two delusions in one sentence.

    Amazing.

  115. B Moe says:

    The Democrats are going to fund the NEA instead of building prisons and then letting private companies swindle the tax-payer with contractual prison management bribe and kick-back schemes.

    So how is letting public monopoly swindle the tax payers and fuck over their children an improvement? You might need to elaborate there a bit.

  116. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Techie on 2/6 @ 9:20 am #

    In December 1982, unemployment rates peaked at ~10.8%

    Reagan responded with an across the board tax cut of 20-25%. (Later, several business taxes would be re-raised, but the Administration refused to move the income taxes)

    Within two years, the unemployment rate was back down to ~6.5 – 7.0%, and by 4 years, between ~5.7 and 6.0%.

    Again, this terrible curse called a memory.

    Oh no, his gaping memory hole is open and queefing again. Did Wonald Weagan ever sign a balanced budget? Or, back in his day, did he borrow the largest amount of debt ever?

    And little Techie hole, wasn’t it Clinton who held the s-t cap gains tax at 40% thereby reaping a windfall of tax payments so as to balance the budget? I think so, yes, since I paid over $60,000 in s-t cap gains taxes alone year after year.

    But wittle weethuglidums like Sgt. Ted, who actually don’t even understand the meaning of the words they type, was telling me that higher tax rates don’t increase tax revenue, and he had GDP estimates to prove it. Bwahahahaha!

    The adults are in the White House now. Run along children.

  117. Carin says:

    Uhm … thorazine, you’re insane. Perhaps you can point out where I’ve ever dedended pork of any type? Regardless, I don’t know what part of your ass you pulled prison management from, but if private companies can run prisons at a lower cost (even with these kickbacks, for which you’ve provided no link) I say GO FOR IT!

    In an analysis of 28 studies of prison privatization it was found that virtually all the studies concluded that private prisons save money — typically between five and fifteen percent over the cost of government prisons. In addition, a May 2002 article published by the Harvard Law Review references three recent studies in particular that found cost savings from 3.75 percent to 14 percent with no decrease in the quality of services. One of those studies found that private prison construction costs in Florida were 24 percent lower than they would have been had the state built their own facilities instead.

    ONe of those linky things

  118. B Moe says:

    The question becomes, how is this still a “faith based” program? Isn’t it now just an average everyday pork plan that covers just any old community organization that the government wants to fund?

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/02/unreal-democrats-stimulus-bill-bans.html

    Not exactly, it all seems to depend on who you have faith in.

  119. Carin says:

    But, to address Thorazine’s point directly – I’d prefer prisons over paying someone to throw splotches of paint on a canvass any day.

    Who’s with me?

  120. JHoward says:

    I’m in, Carin. When confronted with reality, thor resorts to marshaling vast reams of nonsense.

  121. B Moe says:

    …telling me that higher tax rates don’t increase tax revenue, and he had GDP estimates to prove it.

    It’s crazy, isn’t it? It’s like those wackoes at Wal-Mart thinking they can make more money by lowering prices.

    It’ll never work!

    It’s a passing fad!

    It’s just crazy talk I tell you!

  122. TheGeezer says:

    Oh no, his gaping memory hole is open and queefing again. Did Wonald Weagan ever sign a balanced budget?

    If Reagan had had the balls, he would have shut down the government just as Clinton did. But rather than use political triangulation, which was not a Reagan option with the press in this country being as it is, Reagan simply signed what the Congress passed to his desk. It was not the budget he’d given the Democrat Congress, but it contained the tax cuts Reagan wanted. Years later, when the effects of the tax cuts were harvested, Clinton could sign a balanced budget due to revenue increases generated by the economic expansion stimulated by the Reagan tax cuts.

  123. Matt says:

    I doubt this is much that is new and different but I don’t count the crapulus bill towards Obama failings (yet). Right now, Reid and Pelosi own it- they allowed their pork loving cronies to insert every spendy thing they could find into the bill – its a democratic wish list, for all intents and purposes, everything they wanted when the Repubs were in power and didn’t get (something to note thor et al – why do you think there’s this sudden spewing of democratic pork programs ? Because the repubs and Bush wouldn’t let them do it during their time in power. I thought Bush allowed WAYYYY too much spending but I can’t say Repubs ever tried to push through one bill with this much pork). Anyway, Barry’s job here is simply to sign off on it- if its there’s a failing on his part, its that he was elected president, without the gravitas and political stroke to stand up to his party. He is beholden to too many people in the democratic party for his election and thus, he will be unable to say “get this crap off my desk and come back with something else”. Instead, he’ll tell Reid “thank you sir may I have another”. Pointing out he’s never been a chief executive of anything is moot because dems didn’t care before the election but this crapulus problem for Barry is a prime example of how inexperience and lack of a prior leadership role really undermines the office of the president. I thought there was plenty wrong with Bill Clinton but he had executive experience and he knew how to use it- W did as well, though his stroke was almost all used on Iraq, leaving domestic spending to the democrats and the RINOS in Congress.

    Look Obama has done plenty of idiotic things so far- his cabinet choices speak volumes about his judgment and his staff’s failure to properly vet, hell almost any of these guys. His policy of change and ethics is undermined by these picks almost right out the gate and his choice of many washington insiders evidence that change is not going to happen during Obama’s time in office. Which begs the question, why does he need former Clinton staffers ? Because Obama is a guy who had no experience in government and had no one around him during his rise to power who had the relevant experience to step in. So you’ll get the beltway democrats for the next 4-8 years.

    Also, Thor and snippy, an honest question – would you pass the stimulus bill its current format and do you think the bill will work to stimulate the economy ? If you could answer without referencing Bush (who won’t be in a position to sign the bill) and republican majority in congress (who didn’t write the bill b/c they’re the minority), that would be really helpful.

  124. Techie says:

    In what part of that childish screed do you disprove anything in the quote?

    [Under President Reagan, the capital-gains tax rate was cut again in 1981 to a maximum of 20 percent, then increased in 1986 to 28 percent, with a small additional increase in the early 1990s to 29.19 percent. In 1997, as a result of the Clinton-Gingrich compromise, the rate was cut to 21.19 percent. In 2003 the rate was cut to a 15 percent maximum.

    Treasury has now released the data through 2002. As result of the frequent rate changes, we have considerable evidence who was right and who was wrong. When the capital gains tax rate was at its maximum in the late 1970s, capital-gains tax receipts averaged slightly under $8 billion annually.

    From 1998 to 2002, the maximum capital-gains tax rate was approximately half the rate of the late 1970s, yet capital-gains tax revenues averaged 11 times higher ($88.6 billion per year), though the economy (nominally) was only 4 times larger.]

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050131-095121-2863r.htm

    If the miracle of a “balanced” budget (not mentioning all the FICA issues) was a result of some financial brilliance on part of the Clinton Administration, please explain it? How come Clinton could pull it off again with the next budget?

    Otherwise, it was a perfect storm of defense cuts, the surge of the Tech bubble, welfare reform, a divided government, and sheer luck.

  125. Carin says:

    Matt, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you.

  126. Techie says:

    Again, thor, WHO WROTE AND PASSED THE BUDGETS THE ENTIRETY OF REAGAN’S TERMS?

    Hint, the Speaker of the House was noted conservative icon Tip O’Neil.

  127. Techie says:

    And since thor is so repelled by deficit spending, I eagerly await his opposition to the Porkulus Bill (i approve of the new term).

    Cause I don’t see exactly how the government is going to raise almost $1e12 more in revenue this fiscal year. And what about all those other funding obligations, like prescription drug benefits and the $300 Billion dollar infrastructure bill that passed only 2 years ago? How does this prevent Social Security from going insolvent in our parents lifetimes?

  128. Rob Crawford says:

    Guys, give it up. The ‘tards will never allow any criticism of their Party to stand. Every damned thing is the fault of Republicans, including Jim Crow, the Black Death, and athelete’s foot.

  129. Techie says:

    And if tax cuts are so ruinous to the economy, why did you vote for the guy who promised “TAX CUTS for 95% of Americans” in his campaign?

  130. Mikey NTH says:

    What is going to be fun to watch are all of the Christopher Buckleys and Kathleen Parkers and David Brokks people spin like a centrifuge. They are the ones that said how wonderful and smart and educated and articulate BHO was compared to that chillbilly Caribou Barbie, and here he is, just past his second week on the job and he is setting a standard of incompetence I hadn’t thought possible.

    It is going to be fun watching them try to explain how their vaunted judgment was so badly off without admitting that it was all based on intellectual snobbery and cultural vanity.

  131. geoffb says:

    ““What do you think a stimulus is?” Obama asked incredulously. “It’s spending — that’s the whole point! Seriously.” “

    The point actually is who is doing the spending.

  132. Mr. Pink says:

    So by this idiots reckoning any government spending bill can be redefined as stimumlus. If you follow that logic Jack Murtha and Robert Byrd are the kings of teh stimulus and their states should be setting record shattering GDP numbers.

  133. Techie says:

    Thank Gaia we’ve got a SuperGenius in the White House, that dumbass Bush might have let FEMA distribute poisonous food to the Kentucky Ice Storm victims.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h_8t_w7fwqw942xGa8JcoIuxV9hgD965GI302

    Oh, wait………….

  134. JHoward says:

    thor’s a Mitee Free Markits Invester, right? Well:

    $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
    $380 million in the Senate bill for the Women, Infants and Children program
    $300 million for grants to combat violence against women
    $2 billion for federal child-care block grants
    $6 billion for university building projects
    $15 billion for boosting Pell Grant college scholarships
    $4 billion for job-training programs, including $1.2 billion for “youths” up to the age of 24
    $1 billion for community-development block grants
    $4.2 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activities”
    $650 million for digital-TV coupons; $90 million to educate “vulnerable populations”
    $15 billion for business-loss carry-backs
    $145 billion for “Making Work Pay” tax credits
    $83 billion for the earned income credit
    $150 million for the Smithsonian
    $34 million to renovate the Department of Commerce headquarters
    $500 million for improvement projects for National Institutes of Health facilities
    $44 million for repairs to Department of Agriculture headquarters
    $350 million for Agriculture Department computers
    $88 million to help move the Public Health Service into a new building
    $448 million for constructing a new Homeland Security Department headquarters
    $600 million to convert the federal auto fleet to hybrids
    $450 million for NASA (carve-out for “climate-research missions”)
    $600 million for NOAA (carve-out for “climate modeling”)
    $1 billion for the Census Bureau
    $89 billion for Medicaid
    $30 billion for COBRA insurance extension
    $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
    $20 billion for food stamps
    $4.5 billion for U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
    $850 million for Amtrak
    $87 million for a polar icebreaking ship
    $1.7 billion for the National Park System
    $55 million for Historic Preservation Fund
    $7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programs”
    $150 million for agricultural-commodity purchases
    $150 million for “producers of livestock, honeybees, and farm-raised fish”
    $2 billion for renewable-energy research ($400 million for global-warming research)
    $2 billion for a “clean coal” power plant in Illinois
    $6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program
    $3.5 billion for energy-efficiency and conservation block grants
    $3.4 billion for the State Energy Program
    $200 million for state and local electric-transport projects
    $300 million for energy-efficient-appliance rebate programs
    $400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments
    $1 billion for the manufacturing of advanced batteries
    $1.5 billion for green-technology loan guarantees
    $8 billion for innovative-technology loan-guarantee program
    $2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects
    $4.5 billion for electricity grid
    $79 billion for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund

    Pick a market category (damn near any one will do it seems) watch the vote, and prepare to invest in the great Keynesian experiment of 2009 and make a load.

    No wonder the little fart loves this Party.

  135. Techie says:

    My favorite one is the State Fiscal Stabilization Fund (aka, the Rob Atlanta, Denver and Little Rock to Pay Sacramento and Albany Law of 2009)

  136. Techie says:

    Lost in all this: Is the Federal Budget included in all this Porkulus, or do we need to prepare for another 11-figure bill later on?

  137. thor says:

    $7.6 billion for “rural community advancement programs

    My God, that’s moonshine welfare!

  138. Rob Crawford says:

    So let’s see… a few days the Lightworker’s administration announces a 10% cut (or possibly reduction from the projection) in the defense budget. Now he’s whining that any spending is stimulus.

    Why cut defense? Why not leave it as expected?

  139. Rob Crawford says:

    Lost in all this: Is the Federal Budget included in all this Porkulus, or do we need to prepare for another 11-figure bill later on?

    I’m pretty sure all this “stimulus” is above-and-beyond the annual budget.

  140. Pablo says:

    My God, that’s moonshine welfare!

    You ain’t my bitch, nigga. Buy your own damn fries.

  141. thor says:

    Comment by Carin on 2/6 @ 9:19 am #

    So, the 600 million for fed hybrid Cars? $500 million for the Arts?

    Per JHo:

    $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
    $400 million for hybrid cars for state and local governments

    Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict. What’s your excuse, Carin?

  142. Matt says:

    hIThor since you’re actively posting, can you please indicate whether you approve of the stimulus bill being proposed by democrats and do you think send spending bill will stimulate the economy ? If so, in what way ?

    This is not a trap but a request for an honest answer, which might actually lead to a discussion.

  143. JHoward says:

    $150 million for the Smithsonian, thor. Plus $400 million for hybrid cars for government, $1 billion for advanced theirs and other batteries, and $200 million for state and local electric-transport projects.

    But not to devolve this to your level, cretin: So how about that fiscal responsibility, or that thing that had Weagun done it, would have incurred your fearsome wrath. Yawn.

  144. happyfeet says:

    The National Endowment for the Arts isn’t an endowment. The just call it that just for whatever. Justice Clinics aren’t clinics either. They’re just an office for unpaid newbie socialists. Tax cuts for people who don’t pay taxes aren’t tax cuts. It’s welfare. Baracky’s “stimulus” package doesn’t stimulate anything. Even dirty socialist propagandist Jeannine Aversa knows this…

    With fallout from the housing, credit and financial crises — the worst since the 1930s — ripping through the economy, analysts predict 3 million or more jobs will vanish this year even if lawmakers quickly approve Obama’s stimulus plan, which has ballooned to more than $900 billion in the Senate.*

  145. Rob Crawford says:

    The National Endowment for the Arts isn’t an endowment. The just call it that just for whatever.

    They use that word to give artists the only chance in their lives to brag about their endowments.

  146. thor says:

    No, I don’t agree with how the stimulus package is being proposed. I think it should be broken up into targeted specifics with metrics required to grade and regulate the managed release of the monies.

    Isn’t that the great failing of the TARP, no effective control of the tax-payer’s money, just Bushy and Paulson and Bernanke handing out billion-dollar pieces of free candy?

    Brain-dead weeedumblican squeakers also should be gulaged in re-education education camps. They shouldn’t be released back into the general population until they can comprehend – or admit – that rethuglidum pork is the same as dimbulbidum pork, meaning a $50-million bridge to no-where’s benefit is the same as $50-million NEA funding, though not really, funding arts is more beneficial, actually. imho. Up with the barbed wire fences! Cattle drive the hicktards!

  147. thor says:


    Comment by JHoward on 2/6 @ 10:45 am #

    But not to devolve this to your level, cretin: So how about that fiscal responsibility, or that thing that had Weagun done it, would have incurred your fearsome wrath. Yawn.

    Weagan did do it, but he never felt your fearsome wrath, only your slobbering on his nub, that’s the point you’re missing, stupid.

  148. N. O'Brain says:

    “$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts”

    “A government supported artist is an incompetent whore.”

    -Robert A. Heinlein

  149. happyfeet says:

    President Barack Obama says the latest jobless numbers demand action and it’s “inexcusable and irresponsible” for Congress to delay on his economic recovery package.*

    He is so Veruca. They really really need to send him to his quiet place until the adults get this sorted.

  150. Mr. Pink says:

    It’s ok happy OUTLAWS don’t have jobs.

  151. thor says:

    #

    Comment by Matt on 2/6 @ 9:52 am #

    I doubt this is much that is new and different but I don’t count the crapulus bill towards Obama failings (yet). Right now, Reid and Pelosi own it- they allowed their pork loving cronies to insert every spendy thing they could find into the bill – its a democratic wish list, for all intents and purposes, everything they wanted when the Repubs were in power and didn’t get (something to note thor et al – why do you think there’s this sudden spewing of democratic pork programs ? Because the repubs and Bush wouldn’t let them do it during their time in power. I thought Bush allowed WAYYYY too much spending but I can’t say Repubs ever tried to push through one bill with this much pork). Anyway, Barry’s job here is simply to sign off on it- if its there’s a failing on his part, its that he was elected president, without the gravitas and political stroke to stand up to his party. He is beholden to too many people in the democratic party for his election and thus, he will be unable to say “get this crap off my desk and come back with something else”. Instead, he’ll tell Reid “thank you sir may I have another”. Pointing out he’s never been a chief executive of anything is moot because dems didn’t care before the election but this crapulus problem for Barry is a prime example of how inexperience and lack of a prior leadership role really undermines the office of the president. I thought there was plenty wrong with Bill Clinton but he had executive experience and he knew how to use it- W did as well, though his stroke was almost all used on Iraq, leaving domestic spending to the democrats and the RINOS in Congress.

    Look Obama has done plenty of idiotic things so far- his cabinet choices speak volumes about his judgment and his staff’s failure to properly vet, hell almost any of these guys. His policy of change and ethics is undermined by these picks almost right out the gate and his choice of many washington insiders evidence that change is not going to happen during Obama’s time in office. Which begs the question, why does he need former Clinton staffers ? Because Obama is a guy who had no experience in government and had no one around him during his rise to power who had the relevant experience to step in. So you’ll get the beltway democrats for the next 4-8 years.

    Also, Thor and snippy, an honest question – would you pass the stimulus bill its current format and do you think the bill will work to stimulate the economy ? If you could answer without referencing Bush (who won’t be in a position to sign the bill) and republican majority in congress (who didn’t write the bill b/c they’re the minority), that would be really helpful.,/blockquote>

    Yes, it would stimulate the economy somewhat.

    And fuck-off with all your bitter whelping assumptions over his appointees, many of which are well-qualified, you ignorant lop-sided hack.

  152. Carin says:

    I got my numbers from here. I did mess up the Arts “endowment” but the hybrid cars one is as reported at that site.

  153. N. O'Brain says:

    “Brain-dead weeedumblican squeakers also should be gulaged in re-education education camps.”

    A the fascist animal peeks from behind the curtain.

    Would you by any chance be wearing a brown shirt? And a tiny little mustache drawn with your own feces?

  154. Rob Crawford says:

    Brain, just ignore the goddamned idiot already.

  155. TheGeezer says:

    $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts”

    Do we still do “art”? Most of what I see today is pretty shitty and merely reinforces the adage 97% of what humans do is crap.

  156. Techie says:

    Thor: “If you don’t agree with my childish gibbering, you should be locked away”

    Wow, I think your side should be out of power. You think my side should be rounded up.

    (Hey, at least he says something quasi-coherent on music. That’s more than we can ask from paralphie.)

  157. Techie says:

    BTW, weren’t we supposed to have CIVILITY NOW!?

  158. geoffb says:

    “demand action and it’s “inexcusable and irresponsible” for Congress to delay on his economic recovery package.*”

    True mark of a fascist. Action, action, action. Always action. Action first. Then more action when the first fails.

    ACORN, raising, nurturing and training little fascists so they can one day grow into a mighty governmental force.

    What do we want? Action! When do we want it? NOW!

    Rinse, repeat.

  159. Techie says:

    “bitter whelping assumptions over his appointees”

    Too bad all those assumptions are in the headlines. What is it up to now, 1/4 of his cabinet picks have/had tax issues? Geithner, Daschle, and now Hilda Solis’s household? That’s not even counting Bill Richardson and Nancy Killefer.

  160. thor says:

    We saw at least one weethuglidum brand herself in the face with a backwards B.

    I want some more of that.

  161. geoffb says:

    “Wow, I think your side should be out of power.”

    Democrat speak, “Out of Power = Death”

    See, he only wants you imprisoned, you want the death penalty for his side.

  162. Techie says:

    Seems The One Lightworker runs on CST, Clinton Standard Time.

    [Obama has been routinely late to events and news conferences, including the ones at which he reversed Bush’s orders. This has led to an already familiar refrain from the Obama camp: “He’s running late.”

    The president was nearly 30 minutes late Wednesday for the ceremony at which he signed a bill to expand children’s health care. He was 10 minutes late Thursday to a memo signing at the Energy Department.

    Even before the inauguration, Obama wasn’t a punctual sort; he arrived late to a Jan. 8 news conference on the economy that was aired live by broadcast and cable networks.]

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/05/obamas-tardiness-sets-apart-predecessor/

    Well, I guess that counts as Change!, sorta.

  163. Techie says:

    Don’t worry, Barney Frank only wants to extend wage controls to ALL business:

    http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090203/REG/902039977/1003/TOC&template=printart

  164. cranky-d says:

    The wonderful thing about congress, is congress will save the day
    If they don’t have enough of the money, they can make some more anyway
    Just printy, printy, printy, printy, spend spend spend spend spend
    Who cares where it’s going and how fast it gets there just shut up and let them pretend
    That debt is our new friend

  165. Carin says:

    Dirty socialists.

  166. thor says:

    Capitalist whores.

  167. Rob Crawford says:

    Don’t worry, Barney Frank only wants to extend wage controls to ALL business:

    Let’s start by paying Congresscritters what they’re worth.

    I won’t give my estimate. It might be taken the wrong way.

  168. JHoward says:

    Weagan did do it, but he never felt your fearsome wrath, only your slobbering on his nub, that’s the point you’re missing, stupid.

    You pathetic excuse for an excuse. You mendacious little puny smallness. You chimpanzee of reason. Go back and swim in that barrel of pork fat and pink slips you call an economy, you chest-waxing eraser-chewing, DHHS staple counter.

    I, for I am I, despise Spend-O-Nation, regardless. You, you bunny-sniffer, point and pant and show your rump in polite company, labeling it contemporary art and tagging it with a $3 ticket. Wade through your empty plastic vodka handles, attendant, and bring me my free gas. You wouldn’t know fact if it bit you on your solitary whisker, you simpering baboon.

  169. JHoward says:

    Socialist tool.

  170. JHoward says:

    Unusefully imbicilic.

  171. Carin says:

    Capitalist whores like Tom Daschle? I suppose he should have been “limited” to making $500,000 for his lobying.

    But, then, that isn’t really Capitalism, is it? Paying someone so you can have input into Govemental policy that works in your favor?, sounds more like something that happens under Socialism.

  172. JHoward says:

    Terminally malhypocritical. Anti-concretnitude. Bust. Coming-up-short, shorty. Nose-in.

  173. JHoward says:

    $6.2 billion for the Weatherization Assistance Program

    Six billion to Saran-wrap thor’s great grandma’s tarpaper tobacco road lean-to by May. Hopitude, folks. Government.

  174. JHoward says:

    $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits

    Thirty-six billion to keep thor’s daddy in lottery tickets. O!bama!

  175. Carin says:

    $850 million for Amtrak
    $87 million for a polar icebreaking ship

    I’m confused. I thought the polar ice caps were going to be gone in four years??? Why don’t we just wait and save the 87 MILLION?

    As for the money for Amtrak – Ayn Rand should be spinning in her grave over that one.

  176. Carin says:

    $2 billion for federal child-care block grants

    See how they sneak that in? CHILD CARE IS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY!!!!

  177. JHoward says:

    It is now, Carin. Keeps them all down on the farm StatistCare™, where they belong.

  178. thor says:

    But what if single moms on welfare, like Bristol Palin, want to get a job?

    Babies only demand mommy’s milknozzles for so long.

    Once a single mom is back up in her capitalist feet and when she becomes a wealthy warehouser-type, then she won’t qualify for fed-help with her childcare costs.

    Hand-ups, not hand-outs!

  179. JHoward says:

    Good point, thiore: The richest and most feminised nation can’t go around having female folks of the opposite non-male gender and sex providing for themselves after all this time, now can it? I mean, who would fuel countless Democrat campaigns?

    Look! Reagan!

  180. JHoward says:

    And interstate commerce clauses about regulating the business of homes — and the lives that live in them businesslike homes — that lie in states between interstate lines and other areas bordering the states that make up interstatehood! We can’t go around violating the United States Constitution now, can we, thorrr?

  181. JHoward says:

    Was that Reagan went by just then?

  182. Techie says:

    Some people just can’t seem to MoveOn.

  183. JHoward says:

    Nancy Pelosi just can’t seem to tell the truth.

  184. Rob Crawford says:

    I think I figure out how Pelosi reached the “500 million lost jobs a month” figure. See, if you figure that people leave their jobs in the evening and return to their jobs in the morning, then all it takes is…

    Ah, fuck it. If it happened only once I’d chalk it up to a mis-statement, but she’s made the same “mistake” even after being corrected. There’s no explanation beyond her being an ignorant twat.

  185. Carin says:

    You right, thor. How can we possible expect people to support their children? Its just simply ridiculous!

    You know what drives up the cost of child care? State interference. You know it is illegal to watch someone else’s child in your home w/o a day care license? Home inspections, improvement to bring it up to “code”, classes. All to watch your neighbors kid for a couple of hours a week.

  186. JHoward says:

    You know what drives up the cost of child care? State interference.

    What?! Somebody should make a law preventing that.

    Look there! Eisenhower!

  187. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Carin, I also like this new regulation that says you can’t sell used kid’s clothing or toys without having every single item tested for lead.

    Just throw it out and buy new stuff from China! Make people poorer and trash the environment at the same time!

    I wonder how much the Chinese lobbyists paid for that one.

  188. Techie says:

    My God, Is that William Howard Taft?

    Gentlemen, we are so boned.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=274243

    “So What?”

  189. Carin says:

    Yea, they really boned that one didn’t they Spies?

  190. Carin says:

    I’m using Techie’s word. “Cause he influences me.

  191. Techie says:

    I must give credit to the great moral philosopher Bender Bending Rodriguez.

    Or Warren Harding!!!!!

  192. Techie says:

    Obama moans: “Everyone’s an economist these days.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96675KG0&show_article=1

    That’s especially rich coming from the unpublished law academic…….

  193. Pete says:

    VodkaPundit has a little history lesson that should definitely apply here: http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/02/06/once-more-with-feeling/

    If we stopped it then can we stop it now?

  194. cranky-d says:

    I just wanted to be comment # 200.

  195. thor says:

    Unpublished? Use that memory hole, you can do it.

    Sounds like so many here just hate everything about Obama. Pound those little e-fists, people.

  196. Bob Reed says:

    Sounds like so many here just hate everything about Obama.”

    You may have a point…

    I’m betting it’s probably because we’re all racistey like that…

    I blame Booooosh!

  197. Rob Crawford says:

    I don’t hate anything about Obama. I disagree with him. I think he’s showing how unprepared he was for the presidency.

    But hate? Nah. He’s not earned hatred.

  198. happyfeet says:

    I hate the dirty little no-account socialist. He is ruining my little country and I think it must be on purpose cause no one is this dumb. Are they?

  199. JHoward says:

    Aw, now its O!bama hatred. Right. Were you a man, thiore, you’d be outraged your congressmen were stealing you blind. Had you an ounce of integrity.

  200. happyfeet says:

    Likes include Asian peanuts and west highland white terriers (other people’s) and sleeping in tomorrow morning but I don’t think I’ll get to.

  201. happyfeet says:

    happy wug

  202. Techie says:

    Ok, other than a memoir and a campaign book? Cause I’m sure that those established his economic bonafides.

    How come Obama didn’t “Publish or perish” in academia? I’d love to read some of his ConLaw papers, or hell, hie thesis.

  203. Techie says:

    “his thesis”

  204. Techie says:

    But, we digress. Authorizing potentially $1 trillion dollars can’t wait, it must be done TODAY!

    The Consequences Could Be Dire.

  205. thor says:

    Maybe Obama should have just given his Treasury Sec. the OK-winky to hand out a trillion dollars and then read a fifteen-second speech stating he had to do it in the White House rose garden.

    The Democratic way is so messy, voting and negotiating, oh God!

    Look how AIG got $150-billion, puffed on a big cigar, shared a pumping handshake in the backroom and the free tax-payer money trickled down!

    The American people voted to take away your porknozzle, now quit cryin’ hicks.

  206. happyfeet says:

    I don’t think so about the nozzle. NG voted for Baracky and this morning she said, “Barack is really gonna fall on his ass, isn’t he?” I said yeah I kinda think so.

  207. B Moe says:

    “Barack is really gonna fall on his ass, isn’t he?”

    You gotta good neck brace, thor?

  208. thor says:


    Comment by JHoward on 2/6 @ 2:20 pm #

    Aw, now its O!bama hatred. Right. Were you a man, thiore, you’d be outraged your congressmen were stealing you blind. Had you an ounce of integrity.

    Obsessed with hate, filled with jealous rage, blinded by waves of lost pork.

  209. B Moe says:

    …blinded by waves of lost pork?

  210. thor says:

    C’mon Obama, fill our Outlaw pies with some pork sweets! Build us bridges to no-where and lower our taxes at the same time! Reagan did it! Both Bushes did it! Have the Fed Chief lower the fed funds rate to zero so that we don’t have payments on our brand spankin’ new big screens until next Jan! C’mon Obama! Stimulate some of those Outlaw trade deals with China! Put ’em Chinese to work!

    Yeah, Bmoe, waves of lost pork.

  211. N. O'Brain says:

    Obama? He’s not big enough, he’s not good enough to hate.

  212. N. O'Brain says:

    Rachel Lucas’ dogs lurve them some pork.

    But not she just gives them green beans as treats.

  213. Rusty says:

    Is there any democrats that aren’t tax cheats?

  214. Mikey NTH says:

    Rusty: It looks like the answer is ‘no’.

  215. Bob Reed says:

    Maybe Obama should have just given his Treasury Sec. the OK-winky to hand out a trillion dollars…”

    He gave Pelosi and Reid the OK-winky instead, don’t-cha-know…

    The problem started when, after that winky, Granny Rictus McBotox thought it was the same as when her hubby gave her the credit card and said, “Why don’t you go shopping or something” which really meant, “Scram Bee-otch”…

    And Dingy Harry just wandered around with a dazed and glassy eyed look sayin’, “I told him to make my day; and he did!”…

  216. Bob Reed says:

    And the only reason the Democrats are even attempting the pretense of negotiations is so that later they can claim that it wasn’t only their fault…

    That excuse is gonna reside between racial group pandering and tu quoque in their demagogy toolbox…

  217. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “But what if single moms on welfare, like Bristol Palin, want to get a job?”

    Is Bristol Palin on welfare?

    “Sounds like so many here just hate everything about Obama. Pound those little e-fists, people.”

    More projection.

  218. thor says:

    Alert: Compromise deal has been reached within Senate on stimulus package. Several Republican Senators reportedly have backwards B branded on face.

  219. B Moe says:

    “But what if single moms on welfare, like Bristol Palin, want to get a job?”

    Is Bristol Palin on welfare?

    thor apparently has adopted his new bff tuberheads definition of welfare.

  220. geoffb says:

    “you can’t sell used kid’s clothing or toys without having every single item tested for lead.”

    There go all those summer yard sales.

  221. Bob Reed says:

    If they do make “a deal” then they should have scarlet dollar signs tattooed on their face, instead of a backwards B…

    Literally a Faustian bargain…

    Like Don Rickles character said in “Kelly’s Heroes”, when he was talking about making a deal with the Tiger tank crew; “Make a deal with them Joe, you know, a deal, deal…Maybe they’re Republicans…

  222. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “Several Republican Senators reportedly have backwards B branded on face.”

    Well, as you say. They are redumlicans. So, of course they’d go along.

    “thor apparently has adopted his new bff tuberheads definition of welfare.”

    Well, he has been slumming more than natural and you can’t get slummier than agreeing with alphie. BTW, what definition of welfare are they touting?

  223. parsnip says:

    The problem with being obstructionists is that even a compromise agreement looks like a victory for your opponents.

  224. happyfeet says:

    Socialism is gay, alphie. You can’t just be a little gay.

  225. router says:

    how do you “hate” an empty suit?

  226. happyfeet says:

    oh. You greet the empty suit with one of them moue of distaste thingers.

  227. happyfeet says:

    Then you kick him in the shin and run away.

  228. router says:

    the ears yes i do hate the ears

  229. router says:

    but he could do something with the ears maybe a dead fish ear ring from rahm would work

  230. router says:

    then talk like a pirate. maybe a somali pirate he’s got he background. nudge, nudge, wink, wink, saynomore

  231. Dash Rendar says:

    Hey stagflation, haven’t seen you in a while. What’s that? You need a couple bucks? Phshawww.

  232. Rusty says:

    Uh that several is two. What a fuckin’ dope.

  233. oxbowah says:

    I do believe this was one of this campaign speeches. To ’embrace and extend’ the faith based initiative and turn it into a ‘community and faith based initiative.’ Pretty clever. And rewarding, to take a signature dubya accomplishment and turn it into funding community services and activism.

  234. happyfeet says:

    He also had a campaign speech about how his budget would represent a net spending decrease. Baracky outsources his lies but at the end of the day Baracky is as much a liar as his media.

  235. oxbowah says:

    its just that redstate seems all surprised. this was telegraphed.

  236. this was telegraphed.

    just like how he was going to accept public funding for his campaign. oh wait…

  237. or how he wasn’t going to have any lobbyists in his administration…

  238. happyfeet says:

    or how he loves America

  239. oxbowah says:

    And folks are surprised that he didn’t fail to deliver on this one? On money to community groups? I think its that Redstate was just ignorant of this plan.

  240. And folks are surprised that he didn’t fail to deliver on this one?

    sure, he’s full of surprises! I mean, he was immediately going to withdraw from Iraq too. It’s been over two weeks, where’s the “exit strategy”!?

  241. oxbowah says:

    Y’all is wack. Good night.

  242. geoffb says:

    Oxbow-AH.

    Look Bunnies, and hamsters, and gerbils. Oh my.

  243. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    It would be shorter to list the promises that Plastic Jesus has kept.

    There must be at least one, I’m sure.

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