In his Times column, Ayers’s chronology focuses on 1970, the year he co-founded the Weather Underground “after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village.” But this wasn’t some especially radicalizing furnace mishap. On March 6, 1970, three members of a Weatherman cell died when a bomb they were making blew up in their faces. Packed with nails for maximum lethality, it had been intended for a noncommissioned officers’ dance at Fort Dix, N.J.
Only then did the Weatherman faction mutate into the Weather Underground — and begin issuing pre-detonation warnings. Even so, it was still a matter of luck that there were no casualties.
As Todd Gitlin, a former ’60s leftist and a historian of the period, put it: “They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists.”
Ayers told me this week that he did not know about the nail bomb in advance — and condemned it afterward. I take him at his word. So why obfuscate in the Times? Editors cut the article, he protested — before conceding that his original version left it out, too.
Sure he condemned it. It ‘sploded his gf, lulz.
Can haz pithed?
He did it for the lulz.
Nailed his honey, it did.
Guess they got stuck at work.
They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.
Larry Grathwohl: “The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel (fence staples, specifically) and fire potential (propane bottles). The intention was to kill police officers.”
So by Ayers logic, if O! undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…
Or if I thought that his educational philosophy of emphasizing social justice over actual education was irreperably harming our nation’s youth, would it be OK for me to bomb his house-like he did to the judge in the Black Panther trial?
As opposed to simply protesting or trying to vote him out of office…I guess that’s too pedestrian, man…
Funny how guys ike Ayers are all about takin’ it to the man-until they become him…
Their sacrifice was not in vain.
They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.
Did it have a nail?
“Their sacrifice was not in vain.”(Bush on ‘How I stopped my fear of battle by sending others to Iraq’.)
“So by Ayers logic, if O!(BOOOOSH) undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…”
I’ll repeat the question I put to Howie yestiddy.
Are there mirrors in that cave y’all hang in?
Too bad Ayers didn’t have the chance to nail her one more time…….
So we should disband the armed forces and “study war no more” because ‘cleo’s a pussy?
All rightee then.
“So by Ayers logic, if _________ undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…â€Â
FTFY.
Basically, yes. Just fill in the blank.
Dumbass
They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.
Boonies?
Bush on ‘How I stopped my fear of battle by sending others to Iraq’.
It’ll all be yours in a month, honey.
Any idea how many troops Obama will have to send to Afghanistan?
Sometimes, cleo is stuck on stupid. This is one of those times. That was a fairly non-partisan statement made by Bob.
DarthRove: “So we should disband the armed forces and “study war no more†because ‘cleo’s a pussy?”
Bugs, Mr. Rove, Zillions of ’em!!!
“Any idea how many troops Obama will have to send to Afghanistan?”
Small potatoes for the O!. He’s going to bomb nuclear armed Pakistan.
Bomb Pakistan? Good, at least let’s hope he’ll do so anyway, OI. I’d be more trouble if he chooses not to.
Small potatoes for the O!. He’s going to bomb nuclear armed Pakistan.
I’m thinking he’ll offer them a bailout, OI.
Because of the whirled peas.
Yoiks! Troubled was intended, my bad.
But bomb more, faster, please!
I wonder how Ayers feels about Timothy McVeigh.
Wistful?
I’m guessing admiration, tinged with envy.
Jealousy?
“I did not target them for who they were – but for what they did. What they did was participate in the murder of innocent Vietnamese.”
“My actions that day were motivated by my recognition that war is murder. Because it is murder, I believe that deadly force is indeed justified in an attempt to stop it. I do not claim this as a right but rather consider it the moral duty to come to the defense of my fellow man when he is under attack. This is an essential concept embedded in Western Civilization – that we are our brother’s keeper.”
-William Ayers
How do you feel about that statement, ‘cleo?
I wonder how Ayers feels about all of the folks murdered in Vietnam and Cambodia after we left..?
One the, you know, Revolution of the prople had finally succeeded..?
“I did not target them for who they were – but for what they did. What they did was participate in the murder of innocent Vietnamese.â€Â
What he killed Viet Cong and NVA, too?
Who knew?
“Laura Bush killed more people than Bill Ayers.”
So did Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy.
So how do you feel about the quote @ 25, mari? And do you worry at all about karma when you say shit like that about Laura Bush?
“This is an essential concept embedded in Western Civilization – that we are our brother’s keeper.â€Â
-William Ayers”
Oh no he di’int…
I can’t believe he said this. How could he have done anything that might have harmed another if he believed this..?
Cunning stunt, Mari.
well, it sounds like it’s right up your alley then!
Oh no he di’int…
I can’t believe he said this.
He didn’t. That is from Eric Rudolph’s Birmingham allocution with some words changed, unborn babies to Vietnamese, abortion to war mostly.
So you can go ahead and denounce it now, mari. It’s cool.
Laura Bush: history’s greatest monster.
You are dismissed, Mari.
Funny how the Vietnam War is always portrayed by the left as USA vs. Vietnam. It was USA and South Vietnam (with assists from Thailand, Australia, and South Korea) vs. North Vietnam (with help from USSR, China, and elsewhere). To the left, of course, South Vietnam wasn’t “authentic” since they didn’t hate America and accept Communism, so those folks deserved to die.
You’re right JAA,
It was indeed a tag-team match. And the left always thought that the South Vietnamese were perpatratin’
Ok, who did Laura Bush kill? And only an idiot would think “karma” is un-American. Un-Christian? Yes. Un-American? No. Does mari think that Christianity is the same as American?
Ok, who did Laura Bush kill?
When she was a teenager she was found at fault in an auto accident in which a fellow student was killed. It is a vile charge the most rabid moonbats have been kicking around much to the embarassment of anyone with the least bit of decency. Mari just showed her true colors.
wow. I’ve heard that’s the best way to kill somebody. she’s hardcore.
Thanks, B. Moe. I honestly didn’t know about that. So this idiot is equating a traffic accident to pre-meditated murder? Pretty fucking stupid. Mental note: Don’t even read what mari types. He/she is in the alphie bin, now.
The results are the same OI.
Just the excuse is different.
She swerved into a tree to avoid hitting a porcupine.
No.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
You are really quite ignorant, aren’t you dear? Maliciously so, it would seem.
let me know when you get my reference…
And alphie cements his status as a grade A fucking dumbshit with #44. Oy. That, people, is why you don’t engage it.
If this were a theatrical forum, perhaps. But how have I been deceived politically?
Sorry, mari, that’s Ace’s site.
“Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 4:08 pm #
The results are the same OI.
Just the excuse is different.”
So Mari,
Is Teddy “Lion of the Senate” Kennedy guilty of murder also..?
Seems so by your logic…
It’s kind of the same as lefty attitudes towards Israel:
–Israeli bombs kill nearby Palestinian civilians while killing several guys shooting at Jews? Intentional murder. No amount of evidence showing Israeli attempts at avoiding this will be accepted.
–Palestinians carefully plotting and hitting a soft target like a school full of Jews? Justifiable “resistance.” Those kids were future soldiers, right? They asked for it.
–Palestinians who shoot at Israelis, then go hide with their extended families, knowing that Israel won’t strike back? Heroes.
B Moe: you take things literally.
This is why you are so easily deceived.
You think there is any chance Mari will ever get the irony of that statement in the context of the original topic?
Mari’s wearing her “Meat is Murder” t-shirt, which trumps all reason!
Let me know when you get my reference as well Mari. Cretin.
well no, B Moe, because you are ignoring the “Most Recent Statement Supremacy” rule. Remember? It’s how Obama can be taken seriously when he talks about “diplomacy with preparations”
It’s #32, Mari. C’mon, you’re a bright girl, go for it.
So that’s your point, huh? Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we “should just STFU for a while.”
My point, “Bobâ€Â, is that Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.
Wow, what happened to dissent is the highest form of patriotism? Sounds kinda un-Americany of you, sweetie(I mean that in an O! respectful way)!
I laugh at your superior intellect, Khan……er….Mari.
I’m just trying to afflict the comfortable.
Careful, she could be toying with us. Oops, I might have said too much….
I blame George Bush and PMS!
So that’s your point, huh? Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we “should just STFU for a while.â€Â
Because she has no rebuttal for our points, d’uh! Don’t be a moron, kelly!
But moronicity comes so naturally to me, B Moe. Is it because I didn’t vote for The One?
After many years everyone is looking at mr. Ayers again and evaluating his legacy. He isn’t liking that one bit.
Yes, mari, I too recall the halcyon days of 2000, 2002, and 2004. Why, it was a deafening silence on the Left.
Nope, irony is completely lost on this one.
Zounds! We did?? Why didn’t someone inform me of this?
Mari, maybe you should write Jeff and tell him to shut down this blog because he didn’t support Hussein!
Mari,
The Senate Republicans are proving they’d rather lose elections than admit they’re wrong.
We should encourage behavior like this, not silence it.
“My point, “Bobâ€Â, is that Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.”
Ah, so you support that whole First Amendment thingy, then.
Inciteful, root veggie. Inciteful.
Um, nenver mind.
Yes, I made that word up, sue me.
But it’s the media’s fault!!!elevanty!!11!!!
Look, it’s snow bunnies!!!11!!!
Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
There’s some lovely filth down here!
Come to think of it, does anyone remember all those Senate Democrats admitting they were wrong in 2000 or 2004? Me neither.
What she lacks in irony, she makes up for with obtuseness. Bravo.
Mari,
I’m only applying your train of reasoning…
But I can see that the only stop on that line is at BDS central station on the Bush Hatred Express…
That kind of behavior doesn’t encourage a bi-partisan bonhomie between O! supporters and their vanquished political opposition….
I’m just sayin’
They seem to enjoy shrinking the economy so much that I wouldn’t put any sort of shrinkage past ’em.
O!pinion – there can only be O!ne! Racists!!!
The idea that losing political parties should disappear is SO Venezuela. Or 1933 Germany.
I mean, really, WTF (if you’ll permit me) does this statement…
…have anything to do with this one:
And you’re calling us morons?
Don’t you have some Albee to deconstruct or something? Y’know, hegemonic white male and all.
“They seem to enjoy shrinking the economy so much that I wouldn’t put any sort of shrinkage past ‘em.”
I’ll defer to your expertise in shrinkage, thor, but tell me, who has held majorities in Congress the last four months again? With your superior intellect and vast, varied life experience can’t you come up with any new material these days? Stale, man, stale.
Actually, Ralph Nader killed the kid in Texas by running an ineffective anti-Corvair campaign. Mari, you spelled your name wrong. It is spelled M-a-r-y. Dumbass.
“#
Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:16 pm #
Sure, BDS.
Lowest.rated.president.ever.
Stay the course.”
Don’t know history, either.
Oy fucking vey.
Holy crap, we broke the bots, they’re accessed the 2005 talking points file.
Ha, morons.
STFU. You’re all stupid.
Bush is an idiot.
I am an original thinker.
Bush’s ratings are dropping faster than the YTM on a three-month T-bill.
Posting under other people’s names, troll or otherwise is not fucking cool. I wish you clowns would quit.
Original thinker? Did you mean original blinker?
Sigh, why have we let the same three malcontents run every thread off track today?
Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.
Trollhammered.
Buh-bye.
Guess it’s you who’s going to be S’ing TFU for a while. At least from my POV.
SBP displaying his wonderful imagination.
I suppose it must beat reality for the far right.
Next trollhammer candidate?
President Obama!
“#
Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:33 pm #
Someone is pretending to be me.
I’m flattered.”
I wouldn’t be.
That comment was stupid, too.
Mari, Jeff asked me to, just this once, try to keep the comment numbers up.
#103 is correct – if you wingnuts would just shut up and go away, the trolls would not be forced to come here.
Nice little fascists that they are.
Poor lefties. It’s starting to sink in that Teh Lightworker, Teh One who was Different from All the Rest, Teh One who promised that he wouldn’t cum in their mouths, has left them all with a big ol’ mouthful of spooge, and they’re shitting their collective pants.
This is going to be a fun administration to watch.
Obama just promised he’d crush McCain, which he did, SBP.
Speaking of campaign promises, Bristol and Levi?
Tick Tock!
Wow, that’s wicked, Parsnip. Why, it’s almost as stupid as John Edwards. Not.
uh, and that he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba without preconditions. but he’s already taken that one back.
also, I was promised change. WTH is the deal with keeping Robert Gates?! huh!?
Let me guess: snippy said something that was both brutally dishonest and terminally stupid.
What a pity I won’t see it.
What’s it going to take, snippy? An actual perp walk?
It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.
I’m sure she’ll do whatever pisses off the wingnuts the most.
I think most of you guys will end up voting for Obama in 2012, maggie.
Could SBP get more infantile?
Like a child who thinks covering his eyes with his hands makes him invisible.
It is kinda cute.
BWAH HA HA HA HAaaaaaa
also, I was promised change.
Don’t forget the free gas.
The price has come down, but it’s still a long way from free.
It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.
Unilateral Secretary of State?
OBAMA SAID HE WOULD DO IT!!!! Then he said he wouldn’t even before Hillary came along. What gives?
“This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.”
so many broken promises….
Obama has an 80% appoval rating, Maggie.
Can we assume the 20% who don’t approve of him come from the far right like you?
Peak-a-boo SBP!
Got your nose!
so he’s popular!? That let’s him break his promises?
HEY! We’re all jumping off this cliff! W007! W007!!!
have fun with that.
they were POPULAR!
please! it’s all about popular.
it’s not about aptitude,
it’s the way you’re viewed,
so it’s very shrewd to be,
very very popular like ME!
Poor maggie.
So bitter and sad.
It’s not like he promised his pet war would pay for itself, you know.
Maybe Sarah Palin can lend Hillary a few of her $500 scarves for when she calls on Iran?
bitter? sad? not so much. I’m laughin’ my ass off. You’re the sad one. Believing in O!
oh, I know he lied that one time, but who doesn’t am I right? It’s not like it’s a chronic problem. He really loves you. I know he’ll stop beatin’ ya.
and the bunnies are nice.
but not Obama. so you’ve just given up on that little promise.
???
Because the Republican’s will nominate who as a worse alternative? Pee Wee Herman?
No. I’d vote for Pee Wee.
I’d vote for Gilbert Gottfried first, or even Billy Mays.
Oh look, Maggie, it’s a baby moose!
Or a pony!
Maybe a bunny!
Nah, it’s George Bush’s hairy ass. Worst President in effen American history. Your hero.
oh, and that promise about public funding???
BROKEN!
Vote for Billy mays and get a $5 off your next Mighty Putty purchase.
uh, how do you know it’s hairy? oh… right.. it’s thor.
It’d be a trip to see him hawking Orange Glo on CSPAN, as well as being a more honest way of making the office pay off.
well, thor’s fantasy, anyway.
For the last 7 years I’ve been a part of a mission I absolutely, wholeheartedly agree with and have been proud to be a part of.
What’s that chance that’ll happen under this next administration?
Same reason I know your ass is hairy, and fat
Think about Maj. (P) John, Ratso. There’s a post over on his blog about how Blago will soon be his commander in chief.
Let’s hope not for long.
pretty good, ekshually.
oh wait, you said be proud of.
it’ll be like NO all over again, won’t it?
Alphie has found his true opponent, one that he can fight against and win. A teenage girl.
So much for chivalry, so much for tolerance. The left is the land of the scarlet letters.
right, so this is in the land where 100 minus 52 equals 45.
When, oh, when will we get our troops out of Bosnia? (17 years on, that one)
Also, Mays hawking Orange Glo would probably improve CSPAN’s ratings quite a bit.
Ah, maggie so deluded.
All Obama had to do to please us was crush McCain, which he did rather nicely.
If the 20% of Americans who are the Bush deadenders want to spend the next 4 years begging Obama to implement a progressive agreenda, that would just be peachy, too.
Those of us who voted for him are happy to just sit back and let him do his job as he sees fit.
Imagine: 18 month NOLA-type deployments.
AUGA! AUUUUUGA! AUUUUUUGA!
ABANDON ARGUMENT!!!
Ah. The soft idiocy of low expectations.
I understand.
Still trying to bend those spoons and numbers, eh.
RACIST!
he’s only half black.
“Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 6:54 pm #
It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.”
Not only are you a loathsome toad, you’re a stupid loathsome toad.
I don’t seem to have a problem realizing that if someone gets 52.whatever percent of the vote that they didn’t get 48.whatever percent of the vote.
MATHS!
I’m so tired of McCain and Baracky both. Farces both of them I think. Symptoms of disease is what they are really.
Thor the Mighty Finanshul Jeeneeus dunt ged it that if 52% DID vote for O!, then ALL the rest DID NOT.
My dad use to work for the Treasury Department–maybe the IRS should be checking Thor’s math, back, say, the last 7 years (2003 in mathormatics).
Ah. The soft idiocy of low expectations.
I understand.
You must be a Bush fan then, son.
ah, we’re back to home plate.
sweet, sweet BDS.
But McCain is still in the Senate.
Hey, I know a way for Hillary to pay off those campaign debts–she’s stil GOT a Senate seat….
You sure are half-smart Maggie.
Do you see the BUNNIES!!
Yup, maggie. Baracky sure didn’t win a landslide. He likes to hype things though. It’s like if a dirty socialist piece of Chicago street trash got NPR and MSNBC and Newsweek and other media people to pretend like he was for real presidential material. It’s a lot like that really now that I think on it.
yep, watch still has the right time.
Alphie has found a foe he can actually fight. A teenage girl.
So much for chivalry.
You make a lot of assumptions based on samples of evidence that are far too small,… mom.
Yeah, I was pondering today what Helen Thomas’ first question for the new administration will be.
I doubt it will be about why we’re doing Israel’s bidding.
probably, “why are you so dreamy? is it the communist father?”
Actually I just posted a link with the exact figures and Maggie went off her rails and into solo sock puppet land.
Them real numbers spooked Maggie into ODS stress headaches, or maybe it’s Obama bowel inflammation, who knows.
I haven’t heard whats happened to Helen since she got that nasty colon infection.
you were disputing whether or not 48% did not vote for Obama. and FAILED! massively.
“sweet, sweet BDS.”
It’s like brain damage among the reactionary left.
OK, Maggie, just slowly put the sock down.
Brave Sir Alphie found his foe
A young girl he could call a ‘ho’
A girl who was heavy with child
Upon her he could go wild
He could cry hypocrisy
That none would abandon she
So Brave Sir Alphie gave her his sword
and went to gather Herod’s reward.
Rejoicing, Alphie went down his road
revealed to all as a pathetic toad.
??? why? cause you can’t do math?
please, thor! show me again how only 52% of Americans voted for Obama!
It’s not ODS. It’s ODD.
A syndrome is a collection of symptoms that occur togetehr without a discernable underlying disease state to cause them.
Derrangement is an irrational state.
We know exactly what the underlying cause of our symptoms are and there’s nothing irrational about it.
The correct term, therefore is Obama Disappointment Disorder.
Sock it!
so again, thor… 100… minus…. 52…. equals…. ???
And the moral of our tale?
Child, let your parents Democrats be
Or you shall face calumny
From the Brave Sir Alphie.
=
that’s not an answer. dumbass.
but you knowz all bouts the conomy.
I sure am disappointed, SSG. It’s like that dream where you’re sleeping and you open your eyes and there’s someone right in your face and it’s who is it oh shit someone’s in my face it’s Hugo Chavez oh god oh wait no it’s Nancy Pelosi oh crap oh crap wait no it’s it’s just that Baracky dirty socialist street trash damn go away I got to get up early can’t you leave me alone ever jeez.
It’s mathormaticaly improbable!
like my fat hairy ass!
Did you see that the dirty socialists at NPR had to lay off 7% of their staff, happyfeet?
I thought that would cheer you up.
so, but they’re keeping 93%?
Gotta go gets Peppermint Chocolate Chip Milkshakes. Sees ya after a bit.
maggie calling someone a dumbass.
Now that’s comedy gold!
No no, Maggie, you still can’t subtract good.
That’s 87%. Mathormatically speaking.
That was almost snoopydance but I wonder for real if they’re looking at Arbitron data or contributions or both. My guess it’s mostly contributions and it’s corporate that’s pulling back but that individuals … it’s like this… what’s the difference anymore between giving to NPR and writing a check to Baracky? And people are Barackyed out giving wise I think.
so parsnip failed math as well. okay.
Someone needs to point out to Root-Vegetable Boy that Congress has extraordinarily low approval rating, too. It can’t be just the Republicans, can it? The math just can’t work out if it’s just the Republicans.
Oh. Data. Dang, I hate it when there’s data for this kind of thing.
public school, am I right?
Thankfully, Obama won’t be taking that chance with his offspring.
oh. The other thing I noticed was they let the crone Linda and codger Dan keep their jobs while axing their youth-oriented shows (what were failing anyway) … no snoopydance cause I think they want to do a bit of public suffering before hitting up our dirty socialist congress for some serious payback for all their hard propaganda work what they did for Baracky and Mr. Soros.
Maggie,
We know karl Rove has ordered the dimmest of Republicans to mistate the election results every chance they get.
That you are proud to be one of Rove’s Rubes is…to be expected.
Rove has also instructed the very dimmest of the dim to make egregious spelling errors when attempting to insult the intelligence of his betters.
Embarrassing, isn’t it? It’s like mistake and misstate all rolled up into one nonsensical package.
You know what?
“so parsnip failed math as well. okay.”
maggie, alphie has failed life. And thor, worst president ever? Come on, you’re a dick head but you ain’t stupid. I’m not a fan, but I know of at least 1 president in my lifetime who was worse. Bush had a unique, extremely unique, start to his presidency. Carter had a unique ending.
BTW, my apologies to any Canadians out there, but damn, Labatts is truly shitty beer. I know. I know. Taste is subjective and there is no right or wrong answer, but this stuff is insufferable. It’ll teach me to try and go cheap. Time for the Captain and Coke.
Yeah, this is late, but is Mari really indicating that Laura Bush has killed at least 6 people?
Mari is dumb as shit, SSG Ratso. That is moral equivalency beyond reckoning. And remember, there is a HUGE difference between murdering and killing. The fact that he/she and the dumbass can’t see that is amazing to me. Regardless of political/philosophical ideology.
William C Ayers
hadn’t half of a care
For the innocent victim
Of his “hurray for Che” dictum
That’s because you’re a simp, alphie.
Parsnip: “If the 20% of Americans who are the Bush deadenders want to spend the next 4 years begging Obama to implement a progressive agreenda, that would just be peachy, too.
Those of us who voted for him are happy to just sit back and let him do his job as he sees fit.”
Uh-huh… you don’t get out that much, do you?
link?