This kind of thing wouldn’t be happening.
Meantime, the President-elect, forced to clean up the failed policies of the last 8 years, has condemned the latest round of terror attacks and offered to help the Indian government.
Missing from his statement, however, was this:
We must […] engage […] in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.
Too bad. The Indian government could certainly use such a lesson in humility at about this time, what with their insistence on moving toward a thriving capitalist society — with all the inequity (and iniquity) that entails…
Maybe after they get the blood cleaned up.
Timing, you see.
Meantime, Happy and safe Thanksgiving to you all.
Shoot first. Because trust me: that turkey coming at you? He cannot be reasoned with.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING, RACISTS !!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck that shit, I’m having PIE!
I’m in favor of continuing to export our highly successful Terrorist Rehabilitation Program (turning Bad terrorists into Good terrorists). Begs the question though, as to what assistance a president-elect can offer.
Is it too soon to start talking about the failed Presidency Elect of BHO?
FOWLIST!!!
I always shoot first! Happy Thanksgiving!
Looks like Barracky might be invading Pockeestawn a little more robustly than he anticipated.
Wonder what the netroots reaction to that would be?
Curses.
BMoe – They will blame Bush.
Happy Thanksgiving, all!
And Jeff, don’t just first — empty the frigging magazine!
shoot first, that is.
Dang it.
It never ceases to amaze me the magical thinking on the left that informs them that, hey, all people are basically good and if, gosh darn it, we just sit and talk about feelings all this unpleasantness will go away. The fact is, some people are bad, some are even born that way…and they won’t change unless they want to change.
It’s not wrong to want to try to convince people to be decent, but it’s incredibly naive to believe that you don’t need a back up plan. It’s also incredibly naive to ignore basic human nature, which seems to be the modus operandi of the left.
B Moe,
Ever see Scanners?
Seth,
It has been a basic tenent of Marxism/Socialism/Big Brother that they can perfect Man. 100 million dead from the effort still hasn’t shaken that belief.
All people are basically good.
If you pour enough gravy on them
I hope this doesn’t lead American conservatives to start embracing the ultra-nationalist Hindutva movement simply because they’re up against Islamist terrorism. That would be like embracing Putin simply because Chechen terrorists are assholes.
Keep in mind that the Hindu nationalists have no qualms about killing Christians in droves. They are not a very good ally to have.
I would be more worried about the left courting those guys, AJB, that would be a much better fit.
That’s not the problem. That’s not even the right approach to the problem.
The problem is the definition of “decent”. By their own lights and definitions, Islamic terrorists are one hundred percent decent, not to mention caring and responsible. By that definition, having “people” around who aren’t Islamic is a vile offense against God and Nature, and wiping them out is the only just, decent, and proper thing to do. Supposed “Islamic” people who are willing to tolerate and work with non-Islamics are, by that definition, worse than the infidels themselves.
That attitude is not universal among Muslims, but it is inherent in the teachings and pops up often enough to justify the sobriquet “typical”. Trying to “discuss” things and revealing feelings in order to convince such folks to “act decent” simply confirms their prejudices. They are “acting decent”. “Decent” is what they’re proudest of.
Louis L’Amour heroes are fond of noting that “There’s no stopping a man who knows he’s in the right and keeps on coming.” Those who are somewhat more sophisticated may realize that this is not entirely a positive principle.
Regards,
Ric
Happy Bird-Day, everyone!
BECASUE OF THE PIE!
AND THE SHERRY TRIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now would be a good time for India to join the War on Terror. They can then announce that they’ll be sending 100,000 troops to Pakistan’s NW frontier to “assist” the Pakistani Military in tracking down and terminating terrorist command and supply centers.
“There’s no stopping a man who knows he’s in the right and keeps on coming.â€Â
Except with a shotgun and plenty of gravy.
Sherry Trifle? Is she some kind of British celebrity or something?
in the very late 70’s and 80’s the 688 club on Spring street in Atlanta was the first bar I ever was in (course I was a young feller) that had a TV on…while the greatest Punk bands ever (Minus the Clash and Sex Pistols, but every fucking buddy else), it was a loop of Scanners. Yer basic classic.
derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy,
I’m not surprised. Obama’s commitment to religiousity was/is mercenary, evidenced by his first tossing Wright under the bus then the last three weeks of doing his ‘praying’ for wisdom and guidance at the gym.
The man is unable to see “evil”.
Unless it comes in the guise of Dick Cheney.
“It’s not wrong to want to try to convince people to be decent…”
But, sometimes,to convince em, you have to punch em in the face first.
Someone got Marxism in Mohammed Attah’s jihadi peanut butter, you know.
Someone got Marxism in Mohammed Attah’s jihadi peanut butter, you know.
My return key has a hair trigger I fear.
Rusty,
Speak softly and carry a big stick. Some people just need to be reminded what the stick is for.
I’m thinking radiation would stop them nicely, too.
Hasn’t this been debunked? Weren’t the 9-11 terrorists from privileged, wealthy families? Obama was a member of the Saudi family.
By the by, Sherry Trifle was a 1950’s Brit porn star. She starred in Bum Banquet and the memorable Mutiny on the Poonty.
JD, I hope you are feeling well.
Happy Thanksgiving, all!
Whoa … intense.
Just coming by to wish you all a great Thanksgiving!
Jennifer Aniston: Mumbai Murderers “Very Uncool”
Manzi told me this was gonna get ugly.
Ugly enough for you, Jeff?
Happy about that “pallin’ around with terrorists” calumny Palin laid on the low information voters now?
It is Our Friend Pakistan’s Kashmiri separatists allied with w/e evil scumbags they could did dig up.
You wish it was AQ.
So you could start the scare tactics up again.
shut up, Kate, your studied stupidty is especially grating this morning.
Yeah, Kate. Today’s a day set aside for you to irritate your family and loved ones.
C’mon darleen, lets see your response to Hertzberg.
That is, if your are smart enough to be able to read, of course.
Happy about that “pallin’ around with terrorists†calumny Palin laid on the low information voters now?
I don’t know, Darleen, trying to watch Nishfong tie this to Palin could be highly entertaining.
But it is so rich with opportunity here.
But that is enough lowhanging fruit for one day.
tah for now.
Slines.
Katefuckwit
Hertzie begins with a lie and a smear and goes from there. I understand in your dedication to amoralness you love anything that underlines your bigotry but that doesn’t make it anymore than it is.
I don’t have the first clue what Nishi is on about.
Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist. That’s not even in dispute. He wasn’t convicted (“guilty as hell, free as a bird”); his wife was — as were others in his organization. Comrades in arms from his group blowed themselves up in advance of blowing up soldiers and their dates. He wrote manifestos and fronted for an organization that bombed government buildings and intended to wage a violent asymmetrical terror offensive again US government interests. He participated in Days of Rage — destroying property, terrorizing neighborhoods.
He has been rehabilitated by lefties who consider him something of a cult hero.
What any of this has to do with Palin is a mystery.
The above quote from Obama came in response to 911. I’m wondering why he isn’t asking the same questions of the Indian government — if they somehow didn’t bring this on themselves for not having understood the “climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair” that nurtures their tormentors.
ROOT CAUSES, PEOPLE! WHAT WE NEED IS DIALOGUE!
Hertzberg: so brave, going after the Mormons. Why not take on Obama? Or the 70% of blacks who voted Yes? Or Muslims? Or Hispanics?
Fuck him. Typical liberal coward, the pussy, going after the easy mark — the one he knows is least likely to fight back in a way that can do him any real harm. Attacking Mormons only wins him the diehard support of anti-religious bigots like you, Nishi — people who consider themselves brilliant for having the “courage” to attack those whose faith in the metaphysical supersedes their faith in finite epistemology of the material.
Why don’t you talk a bit about the new Hollywood Blacklist, you budding fascist dimwit? Wrap what you consider your prodigious intellect around the cognitive dissonance of your cartoon of Palin and her “theocratic” impulses with the real-world spectacle of “liberal activists” getting people fired for holding political or religious views not sanctioned by Hollywood — as if the liberal gay rights crowd in Hollywood owns the culture, despite losing at the ballot box.
Get to it, brainiac! Chop chop.
Man, that Nishi sure has that obsessed dumped girl friend vibe going.
I know I shouldn’t but here goes:
From wikipedia, blacks made up 10% of the electorate in California, that’s 1.2 million voters. If they voted 70% for Prop 8 that’s 850,000 votes cast which would seem to be a bit more than the 550,000 vote margin for Prop 8.
I thought Nishi had some sort of degree in math. Maybe she should check her comprehension skills. So Hetrzberg may have a point but it isn’t supported by the numbers he uses. That’s OK I guess since theses articles are written for people with little or know cognitive abilities, like Nishi for example.
Good Allah. STFU, nishit.
I don’t have the first clue what Nishi is on about.
Neither does she, I’d warrant.
Sometimes I wonder what the nishis of the owrld would do when staring at someone from the HIG, AQ, Lashkar-e-Islam, Talib, etc., as they come for them in an attack, hostage taking or the like.
Probably whine for someone like me to save them.
And the worst part is that I would still try.
Yeah and “calumny” has a definition. If Palin said something false regards Obama’s relationships, then Nishi might have a point. Maybe, Ayers isn’t a terrorist because he didn’t rack up the body count he desired. I guess Ayers should be properly labeled an “incompetent terrorist.”
Isn’t nishi supposed to be a Muslim? Best get crack a lackin’ on your co-religionists there, Sufi.
That’s Stufi.
Or Stuka.
Too bad it isn’t stfui.
Happy Thanksgiving, all.
“Comment by Nishi_Jenkins on 11/27 @ 12:34 pm #
You wish it was AQ.
So you could start the scare tactics up again.”
It was A-Q.
I swear to ghod, nishi arrived here after being sucked into a black hole and traveling through a wormhole from Teh Stoopid Universeâ„¢.
And they ain’t “scare tactics”, they are terror tactics, you retarded marmoset.
You should read Hertzberg too, Goldstein.
You know, Jeff, you have hitched your wagon to a team of dinosaurs.
Apologist-in-Chief for teh Judeoxian Bigot Squad.
Teh time, they are a changin’.
My prediction? Not AQ.
A Pakistani registered ship let the jihaadis off in fastboats.
Kashmiri separatists.
And, btw, Palin is a cartoon.
;)
lol.
And I’m not anti-religion.
I’m anti-bigot.
Isn’t it cool that Obama is a liberal christian?
Liberal Christianity is the death knell of fundie xian bigotry.
Ask Dicentra…….its another nail in the coffin isn’t it?
Liberal Christianity is the stake of heart of vamphyre fundie bigots.
Evo Theory of Culture FTW!!!!!!
haha, have a happy thanksgiving, slines.
Trolls: your guy won. Now, fuck off.
BTW, trolls, where’s my free gas? Get on it! And do something about my student loan as well.
Yah, those Kashmiri seperatists always single out Americans, Brits and Jews.
STFU, dolt.
Think on it Jeff.
Classic liberal Christianity.
What a concept.
hahaha.
Bet me Pablow.
Put yur money where yur mouth is.
Don’t let the nishbot ruin your Thanksgiving, guys.
Angering others is the only thing that adds meaning to its purposeless, empty life. It is utterly useless both to itself and to the human race as a whole. It has no accomplishments of note, nor will it ever have any. It has no human relationships of note, nor will it ever have any.
Oh, and where’s my free gas, bitch?
“Comment by Nishi_Jenkins on 11/27 @ 2:04 pm #
And I’m not anti-religion.
I’m anti-bigot.”
You are a bigot, you retarded marmoset.
And explain the difference between AQ and “Kashmiri separatists”, you fucking fascist wannabe.
Aren’t u a Rich Man, Pablow?
Liberal Christian. Are those the kinds that hate Whitey and think the government created AIDS?
By the way, Obama was against same sex marriage, if I recall. Meaning the Hollywood anti-8 crowd ought to be trying to get him fired.
Oh, and a Muslim who still believes in racial determinism telling me I’ve hitched my wagon to dinosaurs is rather rich.
Nishi isn’t a “Muslim”. It’s just a pose she adopted to make Dad yell and Grandma cry at Thanksgiving dinner.
Hahaha
Lets say AQ had some involvement then, Pablow.
Gotta admit GW had a brilliant strategy.
Lessee…..create an Islamic state in Iraq to drive al-Qaeda out into ANOTHER Islamic state, which btw, ALREADY HAS nuclear weapons!
stone brilliant, that!
BUSH DOCTRINE FTW!………errm….not.
haha, “We Won in Iraq”–Yon, Victory!!-zombie, blahblah…surge….blah-de-blahblah-McCainPalin….
It is to laff.
;)
haha, lol, Jeff, stopstopstop you are makin’ my sides hurrt.
Isn’t it rich?
The theocons refused to believe in ToE, so now they are going to be schooled by evo theory of culture and evolutionary demographics.
Exquisite Irony, isn’t it?
Oh Snap! It’s finally lost its mind(and I use the term “mind” loosely).
and…..you are going to have to admit teh Truth about Palin eventually, Jeff.
the anticipation is delicious.
24 – Donald:
I remember the 688 well. right back of the Varsity. Went to see REM, Human Sexual Response, Love Tractor, plus some unknown bands there.
“Comment by Nishi_Jenkins on 11/27 @ 2:52 pm #
and…..you are going to have to admit teh Truth about Palin eventually, Jeff.
the anticipation is delicious.”
When are you going to admit you’re a bigot, you monomaniacal fanatic?
Pakistani Muslims are from Iraq? Who knew?
Idiot.
The “truth” about Palin is that she has accomplished far more in her political career than BO ever has. BO is slicker than a tanker of light crude, gotta give him that but right now Mr. Dopeandchange is staffing up with retreads from the past 4 administrations. At least he’s not the Manchurian Candidate some of us feared – Ayers will only be Secretary of Education, not Secretary of Defense. But the only real “change” we’re getting from BO is chump change.
Is that Nishi person off her Ritalin? Seriously, there’s something creepily frantic about her postings in this thread. From her own words, I take away the conclusion that she’s relishing the bloodshed in India. Which means she’s not just strange anymore, she’s sick.
“From her own words, I take away the conclusion that she’s relishing the bloodshed in India.”
She hates little brown people, the fascist wannabe.
Yes, Nan, nishi is unhinged. One of her other noms de blog is that of a (fortunately fictional) fellow whose spare-time hobby is murdering those he considers his intellectual inferiors.
For further insight into her character, have a look at this thread at Patterico. Nishi would fall firmly in the camp that requires that whatever else happens, the baby must die.
The reason Ms. Palin is a “cartoon” is that she didn’t kill her Downs Syndrome baby.
Regards,
Ric
It’s a sociohath. I predict it’ll eventually be instituitionalized for some sort of stalking, most likely cyberstalking.
sociopath
The trolls down here are so much more interesting than the ones we see on most of the Canadian blogs…
Garth
More like self-aggrandizing rather than interesting.
The theocons refused to believe in ToE, so now they are going to be schooled by evo theory of culture and evolutionary demographics.
I think you need to bring back the Turing tests.
Nope: early-onset Alzheimers. It’s in her genes.
She’s eminently disregardable, so why not disregard?
I was bored. The football games have both sucked, and I’m eating dinner by myself this year.
AQ, non-AQ….who really cares? AQ itself is a subset of radical Islamism, of which the perpetrators of this atrocity surely are. They might not be Osama’s brothers, but they are certainly his cousins.
The Nishibot is a legend in its own mind. I mean that in the best possible way.
Great goodwill to Indian brothers and sisters, and all those caught up in the horror. I think they will prove to be greater than atrocity, just as we were and will be.
@#19: Yes, the leftists certainly have always had a utopian vision, and due to human nature the project always becomes just another coterie of totalitarians and thugs keeping the masses down for their own benefit. What starts as altruism ends as egoism.
(I meant the above comment to be directed @Spiny in #15)
@Ric in #19: I disagree that trying to convince people to act decently is the wrong approach necessarily; one has to tailor one’s tactics to the opponent at hand. Some opponents are clearly implacable foes, and proven themselves to be so; for this sort of foe talk is a waste of time. However, some foes are not implacable, and should not be treated as such.
It shows a lack of seriousness on the part of the left to not identify this fact.
You wish it was AQ.
No, wish cat had IQ.
Seth: I’m on the left, and I realize that we must comprehensively attack and defeat our foes. My question has always been: who are they, and when do we dedlare war?
stupid typo: declare.
cynn: I reiterate that it appears the left lacks seriousness when they cannot identify who our implacable foe are. If AQ isn’t an implacable foe, then no such thing exists.
AQ has already declared war on us. Formally, even.
My prediction? No IQ.
Tell us more. I hadn’t heard about this but I’d suspected it..
Exquisite Irony, isn’t it?
Turtle on the half-shell.
So, go shuck yourself.
Seth Williams: AQ has declared its target; I doubt it will obtain its outcome. We may be financially crippled, but we are not hobbled.
People, always remember that it’s worse to be ignored than insulted, and with Nishi’s over-the-top, wildly incoherent rants it should be easier than you think for you all to ignore her, OK?
Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving.
Nishi, you are a little too hung up on labels of Jihadi organizations. It’s the jihadism, Nishi, of radical islamists which include AQ, but also AQ like groups. The targets here (Jews, Americans, British) show “far Jihad” was the task at hand, and it’s the radical islamist agenda of gaining submission to its notions of Muslim supremacy and restoration of the Caliphate that is our enemy, not exclusively AQ. And they should be your enemy too, and you should fear and fight them, too; you more than anyone here, if your standard of good means love of liberty and pursuit of knowlegde and advancement of scientific exploration.
Christians might speak up for notions you find ridiculous or obsolete, but Jihadi’s do the same and worse, and will cut off your head to get rid of you and your complaining.
I feel lumpy after all that turkey and those pumpkin tarts.
“who are they,”
Islam wants to take over the world. Muslims are the enemy.
#91 Seth: What I am saying is that the whole “act decent” question is a red herring that leads us away from any possible resolution.
The number of people who are deliberately evil is very small, perhaps even zero discounting insanity. Everybody involved is “acting decent” within their own definitions, even where “decent” == “gaining power for themselves”. Framing it that way is stupid and counterproductive, because it leads directly and inevitably to the “moral equivalence” fallacy and nowhere else.
Some people’s “decent” is directly opposed to that of others’ definition. When that’s the case, the two are at best opponents, at worst enemies. How they resolve the differences may differ case by case, but framing it as “decent” or “virtuous” behavior vs. the opposite will not help in any way in the resolution.
Regards,
Ric
cynn: again with the utter lack of seriousness.
You seem to suggest that we shouldn’t consider AQ an implacable foe because they haven’t crippled us yet…? Seriously? Is it your honest contention that we shouldn’t take them seriously because we aren’t bloodied enough?
And if your answer to the above is “no, that’s not my contention”…then what, pray tell, is your point?
happy thanksgiving, slines
Likewise, fline.
And to the PW community, at large, as well.
You know who you are.
Ric, I’ll confess I’m not terribly interested in alternate defintions of “decent”. I don’t get off on cultural relativism, as I think the notion of basic human rights and simple decency transcend cultural boundries. I believe those notions are universal and inherant to the human exsistance and easily deduced with common reason.
My point is simply that not all foes are implacable ones, and it is preferable to engage the placable ones in dialog first because we are decent. The implacable ones? Typically easily identified, and should be dealt with appropriately.
I could care less if AQ, for example, consider themselves decent, most people the world over don’t.
Seth Williams: Al Quaeda is a foe but there are many others.
“Al Quaeda is a foe but there are many others.”
All Muslim.
Sorry. Not the “fline,” but the Happy Thanksgiving part.
I’m not the guinsPen I knew.
either blindsided or a
Yes, cynn, and an implacable one at that. So we should respond to them in kind.
And the fact that there are other foes proves…what, exaclty? It just proves that the world is a dangerous place, and really doesn’t speak to the issue of whether or not we should try to convince them to be more empathic.
Seth: I think we’re actually in the same chapter, if not on the same page. It’s a matter, as usual, of definitions. A placable foe is an opponent — someone with different goals and aspirations, but one you have something in common with, like an opposing football team. It may be possible to talk it out and compromise to reach a mutually-agreeable solution, and it may not; situations differ.
An implacable foe is an enemy, and enemies are either defeated or surrendered to; there are no other options. The goal when dealing with an enemy is to reduce them to impotence or nonexistence, keeping in mind that the enemy is trying the same thing on you.
Non-militant Muslims are opponents. Islamists, especially the Waha’abbi strain, are enemies whether they participate in “al-Qaeda” or not. If we defeat the Islamists, we will still be in a contest with other Muslims, who will still want to propagate Islam; but we can handle that. If we don’t defeat the Islamists, both we and the non-militant Muslims lose.
Regards,
Ric
Tous vos revenus sont appartiennent àmoi.
STFU, nishit, you racist eugenecist.
Ric: that is the sense of it that I was trying to get at.
I’d love to play poker with Nishi. You can always tell what she fears most politically because she always jumps right in and attacks it without so much as a how-do-you-do.
1. Mumbai attackers not being Al Queda. An AQ attack anywhere in the world undermines her conservatives are over reacting to terrorism to the point of being irrational meme. It’s been quiet enough on the international terror front that the left has been trying to play the argument that there is no war on terror, just G. W. Bush blowing up brown people. An AQ attackâ€â€on brown people no lessâ€â€fucks all of that up.
2. Sarah Palin. I have to admit, I’ve never seen the left so discombobulated by a conservative politician. Even Reagan didn’t get this far under their skins. Nishi is utterly terrified of Sarah Palin. (I’m even empathetic to her terror, since usually when I encounter such fear it is coming from a child.) I’m not sure, but I think it’s Palin’s authenticity. The left knows their authenticity. Obama is authentic because he’s black, obviously. Palin’s authenticity is the whole package, her background, her political success as an outsider, all of it. I think what scares them the most is how many people respond to her authenticity with familiarity and good faith, which means she is capable of beating the left at their own game. The left hates that shit.
Well, late to the post but gotta kick in my 2 cents.
I think China is involved. It all may be carried out by and through AQ in general but I think there’s some background funding and/or logistics and/or planning with Chinese intelligence. This attack, which is still continuing as I digest and type, is an attempt to bloody the newly rising power in the coalition of democracies, which has recently entered a stronger alliance with the US, has taken a bit of the lead against the Somali pirates, and hopes to counterbalance Chinese moves in the Tibetan plateau which is beoming more militarized and the Indian Ocean where China is building naval bases.
Remember that Mumbai is like their New York, this is like a 9/11 in its audacity and intent to demoralize the nation and delegitimize the Indian government. And remember China was/probably still is a key supporter of the Taliban, they prop up the tyrants in Burma or whatever the hell they call it now and which is where those new naval bases are going in, share a border with Kashmir, don’t lilke how India hosts the Dalai Lama, keep the Sudanese in the Darfur genocide business, have joined Russia in protesting the missle defense shield, and are starting to pal around with Hugo Chavez. Oh, and they poison our kids and pets.
Therefore I strongly suspect there is another geopolitical level as to why and how this attack was carried out, overlaying the good old fashioned jihad motivation which is perhaps flavored with Kashmiri separatism.
Kind of a downer, I say. A new salvo in the war against freedom. The plot thickens.
And yet . . . Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
We had FOUR pies!!1!
Geo W: Your idea is well worth consideration; who knows in this wild world. Sorry for my earlier drop-off–had a dishwasher event.
With #118 in mind,
There is your answer cynn,
Enemies.
Radical Islamists including the Wahhabi and AQ. The Marxist/Socialist governments (China, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, and others) that prop-up and otherwise support the Islamic terrorists.
You can basically say that America has always been at war with thugs. Thug governments and privately operating thugs world wide.
It is not because we are a warlike people, we aren’t. It is because we have this belief that all humans should live in freedom. That makes our very existence a mortal threat to those who would rule others through coercion and terror.
I, for one, like having those people for enemies. It is a badge of honor that Americans should wear proudly. We are hated and despised by thugs. That is much better, infinitely better than having them love you or worse you loving them.
So the thugs in your own country don’t count. It’s only the ones you can obliterate that matter.
Thugs in our own country are either a law enforcement matter, or are handled in person if the threat is up front, immediate, and personal which is why concealed carry is a good thing. Another type need to be voted out of office. We most likely disagree on who they are but that is the nature of politics in a free society.
As for whether they count, the events of 1860 to 1865 show that they do count.
Now I’ve pulled a 10 hour shift today that was supposed to be an 8 hour but got changed at the 7.5 hour mark. Stayed up to get something on the Amazon Black Friday Sale which doesn’t require standing in line in freezing weather at 4 am. So I’ll be sleeping while all of you are out shopping. Good luck at the stores.
I see all this bitching about AQ and filter it through my WoW node.
Man, not that many people got into Ahn’Qiraj…
Oh well. Happy Thanksgiving! Even you, nishbot. Just go piss on someone else’s turkey, k?
#121
Sure they do cynn. It’s why we have police and courts and as a final last ditch resort we, as a population, are armed.
The left, you guys, seem to have a difficulty in recognizing who the thugs are. I know you would like th label Bush/Cheney as thugs, but militant islamist were after us long before them. And to give credit where credit is due the current administration has done a credible job of keeping them off our shores.
I just want the bad ones obliterated, cynn. I’m fine with all the rest even if they do hate me.
Infadel, and proud of it.
Maj (P) John wrote:
No, that’s still a good thing, even if nishi isn’t worthy of such a response. Because of what you are, not what nishi is. You are a good man, sir.
cynn: what thugs in our country do you refer to? The answer could be most illuminating.
Seth, dosn’t your cable package include Comedy Central?
dosn’t=doesn’t
the thugs in [our] own country
Congress.
Sometimes I wonder what the nishis of the owrld would do when staring at someone from the HIG, AQ, Lashkar-e-Islam, Talib, etc…
She would drop names on them.
British-born Pakistanis were among the Mumbai terrorists, Indian government sources claimed today, as the death toll rose to more than 140.
Two Britons were among eight gunmen captured by commandos after they stormed two hotels and a Jewish centre to free hostages, the city’s chief minister said.
Three arrested at the Taj Mahal have been officially identified as a Pakistani national and two Indians. Another is reported to be a Mauritian national.
A previously unknown Islamic group, Deccan Mujahideen, has claimed responsibility for the attacks but terror experts believe is is linked to Al Qaeda.
It is known that dozens of British-born Pakistanis have travelled to Pakistan to train in its camps in recent years.
One security source said recently: ‘The camps are full and many of the people inside are Brits.’
Last night, there was speculation that a British Al Qaeda suspect reportedly killed by a U.S. missile strike in Pakistan last weekend may have helped plot the attacks.
From weasel.
Just some o’ them disgruntled Indian musslemen, huh.
I predict the failed President-elect Ubama will summon some ex Clinton minions to go to Pawkeestohn and give them a good talking to, and a couple hundred billion.
That’ll settle their hash awright.
Send in Joey Hairplugs and the French!
M’berg:
That’s spelled CNN, right?
That’s spelled CNN, right?
On PW you need to add a “y”, which makes it CYNN!!1!eleventyone!1!11!
lol
afraid of a ex-beauty pageant contestant too dim to see the rube stuffin turkeys into hoppers durung her last presser?
afraid of a human punchline?
not now.
I was plenty scared when it looked like an unvetted dimbo had the potential to be forced on the electorate thru the GOP’s timehonored tactics of racebaiting and IQbaiting.
Not any more.
Palin could only get to the oval office as someoneelses vp.
Now any path to the whitehouse leads through a trackless forest of intense media scrutiny and ferocious public vetting of her every simpleton gaffe.
Too late for poor Cinderella to get to the Ball on time now. ;)
And you slines are too dumb to see what a horrorshow Palin is as a candidate.
So I get to watch you punch yourselves in the face for the next 4 years.
Jeff knows Palin is a disaster, but he can’t say it!!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha
so delicious
Demented/Obsessive much?
Nishi reminds me of the Chinese knock-off DVDs I used to get at the markets in Laos: if you turned the subtitles on, they had been translated from English to Chinese, then back into English. Invariably, the resulting text was indecipherable and useless, but oddly poetic.
High comedy, that.
The banal bandwidth bandit strikes again!
YOU’RE GONNA LOVE ME, MOTHERFUCKER!!! YOU KNOW YOU WILL!!!!
Nishi: Sarah Palin is classier, ever so much more successful, and prettier human woman than you will ever be.
Get over it, you jealous, hateful, tribe of mean meme, biatch.
#117 Playing poker with Nishi would be like getting some of those wacky genetically modded x-ray eyes. She might as well play with her cards facing out.
Sanity. It’s not just for breakfast anymore.
kate must have eaten its RDA bowl of stoopid today.
By the way Nishi, do you mean that Palin will only get to the Whitehouse by a serious vetting like Obama had? Or is vetting another way of saying media bias?
Like I said, high comedy.
Wow…..I love these guys.
That is where you belong, Jeff.
Not writing apologia for slines.
hahaha, Obama is MOVING INTO THE WHITEHOUSE incase u hadn’t noticed.
Be honest……..Palin never will.
;)
haha, Seth, Obama had four years of vetting– Palin had 2 months.
Most of which was just providing raw material for SNL skits.
lol.
I see Nishidiot has stolen a new catchphrase from a book that she neither read nor understood.
Loser.
Wow…..I love these guys.
Why don’t you go hang out over there, loser-grrrrrrrrl?
Kate when is the last time you went out on a date?
And I’ll bet, Nishi, that if you ask any one of ‘those guys’, they too would shun and denounce you.
Because of your arrogance and your pretense to intelligence.
Tribe: denied!
Obama had four years of vetting
Kate’s fills her alternate worldview with lies.
Kate when is the last time you went out on a date?
Does stalking Jeff G. count?
Mr. Pink
Kate is truly phobic of intimate relationships… she can’t stand breeders or breeding for that matter…note her hysteric hate/envy of Sarah Palin, a real woman.
Kate embraces eugenetics as a means of controlling all those real women she hates.
Vetting=a media knob job that enabled him to get elected to the presidency based on one speech in 2004, and explained away or mitigated any negative information that was made public thru alternative means other than the MSM.
PS. Seriously can anyone name one negative story that originated about O! in the MSM?
Yeah, JG, you should spend all your time writing about what you don’t believe it.
I keep hearing that Kate supports eugenics but I have never seen her say it on here.
Mr. Pink
I don’t recall exactly the threads, but one of them was about Trig and how Sarah had a moral obligation to abort him. There have been others, too, in regards to abortion and ESCR.
Thanks Darleen, now that you mention it I do remember her saying it about Trig but thought it was just the sad ravings of a troll begging for attention. I did not believe her to be serious. Now that I know she has said the same things earlier, I have a different opinion.
Yes, Mr. Pink, Nishi lurvs her some perfect tribes.
This entire thread based on Nishi’s lurv for eugenics.
Well that is some grade A psychosis you just showed me serr8d, thanks. I am sure Kate must be fun at clubs when her Valium wears off. Probably start trying to stab the busboys for being “inferior”.
[…] PROTEIN WISDOM– “If only the wingnuts would stop it with their fear mongering and HATE… This kind of […]
Mr. Pink, Kate is clearly unhinged. “Insanity” is when one’s mental model of the Universe doesn’t match reality, and she’s that in spades.
Her fundamental disconnect is this: She wants access to an unlimited number of human fetuses, which she proposes to blend down to a fine pureé from which she (or rather her employers) will distil an Elixir of Immortality. She is not able to pretend, even to herself, that this represents a morally or ethically acceptable thing to do, but she lusts for the Elixir (and the recognition attendant upon being the one who provides it) with a desire that attains the level of “mania”. She therefore spends her days attacking what she perceives as the sources of the ethical and moral rules that deny her her heart’s desire, as if she could annihilate the distance between New York and San Francisco by outlawing automobiles, trains, and 747s.
Unfortunate, really, but she falls into the category of people one should theoretically find pitiable and sympathetic, but cannot because they’re so bloody annoying.
Regards,
Ric
I do pity her, Ric, much as I might feel pity for a rabid dog. It’s not the dog’s fault, after all.
Nishi was born without a conscience.
I am kind of amused about the way Nishi keeps saying “good-bye” and then not leaving. Major lulz there. She doesn’t hang out with her friends because she obviously has none. Remember, for an emotional child, even bad attention is better than no attention.
She just can’t quit you, Jeff!
I bet all of you would greet nishi with a smile and a hug if you ever really got to meet her.
“Unfortunate, really, but she falls into the category of people one should theoretically find pitiable and sympathetic, but cannot because they’re so bloody annoying.”
That is as useful a summary as I have seen. Thanks for that, Ric.
bet all of you would greet nishi with a smile and a hug if you ever really got to meet her.
hf
I don’t go into basements.
greet [‘zono] with a smile and a hug
I’d point and laugh.
Well I didn’t say I would bet my Transformers or anything.
Cynn:
We authorize the use of military force against Al Qaeda – which we have done. This permits the use of force and in such kind that is appropriate.
Declarations of war may be full and formal, such as against Spain in 1898, or less than full and formal, such as the undeclared naval war with France, 1798-1800. Al Qaeda and all of its affiliates and allies are enemies of the United States. We are at war with them, and may attack them when and where we deem appropriate, with such force as we deem appropriate, until Congress determines otherwise.
This isn’t the first time this nation, or any nation, has been in a Quasi-War with a non-state actor, and it will not be the last time. The protocols are already there, if there was only the will to use them without a sob-a-thon in the media.
Kate revels in the death of the innoccent.
It warms the cockles of her eugenist heart.
But Sarah Palin wil remain Kate’s foe, because Trig Palin is allowed to live.
Kate is Evil.
#162 Ser8d:
From my own comment on that thread:
Next to that, she has about a half-dozen subjects she goes on at length about, and no matter how many times people here have shown her where her facts are wrong she continues to make the same arguments based on the same flawed facts. For example, in the earlier thread did you see where she continued to deny that the Nazis practiced eugenics? When that simple fact is acknowledged in the sources from that time and by historians afterwards.
Seriously – why should anyone continue to discuss anything with nishi/matoko? She is a dishonest debater and not worth further efort.
Kate is Evil.
#169 Maj. John:
Remove annoying and put in evil and you and Ric have it right. There isn’t any redeeming thing in this future ‘Allgemeine SS’.
Poor Kate will probably be found in a maternity ward trying to kill babies one of these days. She’s clearly demented.
What the hell was this thread about again? Not nishi. Oh, yes, it’s about how the mean old India is like the mean old USA in not understanding and loving the brave freedom fighters.
I am smarter than you cudlip xians
I recently figured out what the SHIFT key does
Palin’s so stupid
Worried yet, wingers?
I don’t think Nishi is evil, where evil is defined as one who desires to be cruel in the face of morally knowing better. No more so than a black widow is evil. It’s a selfishism thing, for someone who obviously lacks some of the basic emotions..empathy, sympathy, grace, a sense of noble purpose..usually employed when dealing with fellow humans. It’s as if she looks at a group or a class (or an area defined by a bell curve) of peoples, mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, and decides that that particular group doesn’t deserve her quarter.
If given access to the levers of power or to the crucibles of edgy science that she so clearly desires then maybe she could do things that are morally repugnant, and approach evil. I think most scientists (or at least some) would sniff out her extremism and prevent any of that. Or I at least would hope so.
Ric, your comment deserves a bookmark. Nishi, the
puppyfetus blender who would..Under the heading of “absurd coincidence”: I don’t know for sure, mind you, because I don’t really know who nishi’s employer is, but I think I just accepted a package to be shipped to her company.
The planet is simply too small. I’m so disappointed in Mr. Jarnell.
Regards,
Ric
Ric…was the package…moving?
“Never attribute to malice…”
The ignorance has been abundantly on display, but this is the first time I’ve seen the other half of that equation. No, the package was disappointing, just papers in an envelope. It didn’t even need a Clinical Pak.
Regards,
Ric
#180 Serr8d:
Kate/matoko is evil. She has has many opportunities to rethink things, and continues the same course. She has knowingly chosen her path.
Kate is Evil
hf, regarding the smile and a hug for Kate, the quantity and quality of bile she has vented at Maggie would definately preclude any such greeting.
–SSG RaTsO
RTO, where have you and Maggie been? We’re needy here. We can stand people to just leave us.
Neither of us went anywhere. Been busy and not saying much lately–also you might have been fooled by my new OUTLAW! handle.
I’m told that it can also be hard to recognize someone after they get promoted. They get the big head and start acting like they don’t remember who their partners were.
But I’d never do that.
Now drop. And knock out 50.
As smart as Nishi THINKS she is, she is most incurious, which is a very bad trait for someone who claims to believe in science, and the Scientific Method. When confronted with facts that contradict her prejudices, he ignores them, and continues to stick to her talking points, which is so incredibly UNscientific that it borders on FAITH, not science.
Nishi is a fundamentalist, faith-based eugenicist…
there was also the frenzied Christmas light and grapevine moose purchasing and assembling today.
RTO, the only way I could do 50 is if I could break it up in sets of 10. And, I’ll still be crying starting around #38 …
CD, show me some facts then.
I love facts, I love empirical data. But all I get is adhoms.
Facts are, i said Palin would cleave the GOP along the intellectual faultline.
And she did.
I asked Jeff to explain why Palin wasn’t a textbook demagogue as defined by the Founders, and he called me a buncha names an tole me to get out.
Here feets….this is for NG.
There’s no sense in fighting it, Jeff. You know you want me. We belong together. Stop fighting me, Jeff. Just admit it. We can make each other’s dreams come true!
Kate…does a nail studded baseball bat still frighten you? If so? I’d suggest shock therapy…Use one in a manner that will preclude you from breeding ok?
Carin, That’s a LOT more than most people can do.
But you’re mysteriously deficient in empirical data when making statements of “fact”. How conveeeeeeinient!
No, you’re a machine that makes nonstop arguments by assertion, only with worse grammar and spelling skills than a real machine could possibly manifest.
And, and I repeat myself here, without accompanying factual support. Not sure why I bother, because I’m fairly certain this will carom off your fact-resistant exoskeleton in pretty much the same way that everything else I’ve said has.