I give it 4 more years until we’re all doing mandatory calisthenics — fewer, if universal healthcare passes rapidly, and overweight people have the nerve to presume a coverage entitlement without sweating for it.
Dance, fat boy! You don’t see any plump Chinamen, do you?:
The Philadelphia City Council has passed a menu labeling law that a prominent consumer advocacy group described as the strongest in the nation.
The measure requires that local units of restaurant chains with at least 15 stores nationwide post calorie counts on menus and menu boards starting Jan. 1, 2010. But it goes farther than the mandates enacted by New York City and several other jurisdictions by requiring that trans fat, saturated fat, sodium and carbohydrate contents be listed in addition to calories on printed menus.
“The measure passed today by the Philadelphia City Council is the strongest in the nation so far, and we hope it is used as a model for other jurisdictions,†Margo Wootan, nutrition policy director for the Center for Science in the Public Interest, said in a prepared statement. CSPI, a Washington-based consumer advocacy group, has been a leading proponent of labeling mandates and a consistent opponent of the restaurant industry on those measures.
The Pennsylvania Restaurant Association said it has asked for a meeting with Philadelphia mayor Michael Nutter in hopes of convincing him to veto the law. But PRA chief executive Pat Conway acknowledged that a veto is unlikely, and might be overridden in any case by the Council.
If the measure stands, the association will attempt to have the bill amended by educating Council members and the mayor about the measure’s negative impact on restaurants, Conway said. He pointed out that the law would go into effect in 2010, providing the group with a year of educational work.The PRA said it would seek such amendments as allowing restaurants to provide nutrition information in a variety of ways, rather than merely on menus and menu boards. For instance, it would like brochures to be an accepted means. Alternative language suggested by the group would also limit the required nutrition information to calorie counts.
The association issued a statement that characterizes the existing bill as “economically damaging.â€Â
“Further, this regulation opens the restaurant industry in Philadelphia to a number of liability issues that will make restaurant companies think twice about opening new stores or expanding here, depriving the city of much-need jobs and tax revenue,†the statement said.
With the passage of the bill by a 12-5 vote on Thursday, Philadelphia joins such jurisdictions as King County, Wash., and California in mandating the disclosure of calorie information by chain restaurants. A number of labeling bills are pending in other cities, counties and states throughout the nation. Although many are patterned after New York’s measure, some vary in such ways as how much information has to be posted, where it has to be disclosed, and how small a chain has to be to qualify for exemption.
With the support of the industry, a federal bill has been introduced in both the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives. The Labeling Education and Nutrition Act would pre-empt all local, county and state labeling bills.
And, once every fast food message board begins to read like a legal contract, we can look forward to the next advocacy group coming along and complaining that the type is too small and therefore discriminates against those who forgot their glasses — which will necessitate larger type, and so larger buildings, the downside being that these new colossal eateries with their giant information boards have a much larger carbon footprint and, aesthetically, don’t mesh well with the surrounding architecture, meaning that they’ll run afoul of local zoning boards and be forced out to the exurbs, where they will be vilified for contributing to “sprawl” and even greater environmental damage, both from their unsightly blight on the landscape and from their insistence that people drive out to them, burning precious gasoline and adding to the problem of pollution such that we may as well just advocate to shut the fucking things down altogether and replace them with charming little roadside fruit and fish stands (which would require substantial growth to the FDA for monitoring, but hey — that’ll create jobs to replace those lost by business owners forced to shutter their shops because a mendacious food Nazi group has decided that it is their business to hector food chains into treating customers, there of their own free will, like retarded children incapable of making informed food choices).
Meanwhile, President Obama will sit in the Oval Office puffing on a Lucky and eating an Obama cake, thinking, “Ah! It’s good to be the King!”
(h/t pw wife)
Your body belongs to the Reich.
That one sentence though was epic, bros.
PROPS!
*sigh*
Sometimes, I think you have something against periods.
The Labeling Education and Nutrition Act would pre-empt all local, county and state labeling bills.
That’s so wrong. California should have the right to bludgeon its restaurant industry as viciously as it wants I think. Laboratories of democracy and all that.
That’s a nice license you’ve got there. Shame if you were to lose it.
They voted for it, now give it to them good and hard.
What about Michelle? Will this be, like, the 3rd time she’s proud of her country? Assuming that the electoral victory was number 2 (ha ha, no pun intended). Or maybe that’s all part of the “first time”, so this is only the 2nd.
See, I ask because I clearly care deeply about Mrs. O’s prideful feelings.
Henry James’ dick would shrivel at the sight of it.
I think they could sue and win under Due Process grounds.
Why should Wendy’s be required for this and not Le Bec-Fin, The Capital Grille, Morimoto, White Dog Cafe, or hell, Pat’s King of Steaks?
I would like the Mc17 grams of carbs please with a side of the Mc12 milligrams of sodiums. Trying to be healthy today.
NO SOUP FOR YOU.
Pretty soon we will see a Fairness Doctrine for restaurants. It is simply not fair that Chinese restaurants only serve Chinese food.
You know, I can hardly wait until all these stuff is labeled and obesity is no longer a problem in Amerikkka.
I mean, who could have possibly figured out for them self that a McDonalds Big Mac, large fries, and a coke would be bad** for you?
** Around 1300 Calories.
That sentence represents an eon, I think. Yes, much more than an era.
I think they should have a little scale in front of the register. It synchs with menu items you are allowed to choose and limits your legal purchase quantity. We have the technology. After all your health care isn’t yours to pay for, buddy, and you have miles of trash to pick up beside the road before you sleep.
Alternative, a little chip that makes you asplode if you get a diseasle. Otherwise, you should roam as an outcast.
Yeah Carin,
Probably the same folks that stood in stunned incredulity when the government pronounced that smoking *shudder* was no good for you either…
I’m all for healthy living, but again that is a personal life choice that individuals must make. But, with us getting ready to underwrite national health care and all, they’re gonna make it illegal to be overweight or perhaps drink too much! Wait ’til all the stoners realize that they won’t be allowed to party on, dude, to mental and physical oblivion either…
I don’t know about the rest of y’all, but I smell a reprise of the Big Tobacco boondoggle from Billy Jeff’s days comin on…
But I mean, the refernce in the constitution to the rights of private property were only talkin’ about material goods anyway; they couldn’t have been meant to apply to, you know, ideas and belief and such…
I fear that we are truly effed; our country is in danger of being FUBAR!
From what i can tell living in NYC with these ridiculous calorie posting requirements applicable to only “chain” restaurants, it is b/c the city council members get to stick it to the “man” (in this case corporations) that are not local based, expand the bureaucracy, and the bonus being that because the labeling provisions do not apply to the high end places, they will never be afflicted with just how much more difficult the signs are to read. In the same vein as “free speech for me, but not for thee”. They get to exert more control over our lives.
We’ll just have to design a Perfect Government Hamburger to replace all that CRAP in fast food joints.
And you WILL eat it. Baracky won’t allow you to go back to your old lives, uniformed, uninvolved, or unfed.
I don’t see this as being too big of a deal. After all, in Barack Obama’s America, if you’re eating out more than once every month or so as a family, you’re using up excess money that could go to the less fortunate like these benighted individuals. They deserve their transfats too.
Perhaps Barack could share some of his arugula.
In Baracky’s America, the hamburger eats you.
Alternative, a little chip that makes you asplode if you get a diseasle. Otherwise, you should roam as an outcast.
If their palmflower blows them up they’ll never get ‘recycled’ at Sleepshop.
Probably the same folks that stood in stunned incredulity when the government pronounced that smoking *shudder* was no good for you either…
I’m always reminded of the Dennis Leary skit at the beginning of No Cure for Cancer. Oh shit, these things are bad for you! I thought they had vitamin C in them.
Seriously, does anyone NOT know that McDonald’s is not, strictly speaking, good for you? Is anyone loading up on Big Macs and super-sized Fries thinking, hey, I’m really getting a well-balanced nutritious meal. After all, the Big Mac has like lettuce and stuff.
And will those of us who actually require at least 3,000 calories a day for sustenance have to start hitting the black market for their daily caloric needs? I really look forward to my back alley hamburgers.
Yep, tobacco was one of the few things verboten in Logan’s world.
I feel a lot better now that the government is willing to take care of me. It was scary making my own decisions. No need of that in O’s America.
And yes, I know our dear leader is not responsible for this particular law. He is, however, a symptom of that kind of thinking.
I yearn for the day when every possible danger of living is clearly labeled. Food could be bad, window screens aren’t really intended to keep kids from falling outside on their heads, the pill doesn’t protect against STDs, and smoking is teh bad.
Except for terrorist bastards. That would be racist.
I think O! should start redistributing Calories. Unhealthy BMI? Sorry, you’re only entitled to 1500 calories.
They already tack that warning onto ads for Viagra.
All hail government veggieburgers!
I guess they’d better stop giving away free cheese, then. Way too much fat in that stuff.
Lunch is so political in Baracky’s America. I remember when it was just lunch.
A quiz:
Which has more calories?
A. A fully loaded triple whopper with cheese and bacon, a large order of onion rings and a large choclate shake.
B. A side salad.
C. Air
D. All of the above
Fuck–help me Obama.
Ah great to see that Philadelphia’s government is handling the important issues facing the city. Oh yeah and today they had their 294th homicide for the year.
thor should walk around with a warning label on his forehead. Suggestions for content greatly appreciated.
As someone who takes his nutrition very seriously, I am a big supporter of these initiatives. Do you know how hard it is to figure out just what you’re eating? Transparency & more information is good for the informed consumer; and the uninformed consumer clearly doesn’t care anyway, so what’s the harm to them?
This doesn’t raise the cost of business, it just transfers the cost of discovery from the customer (who is at a disadvantage and must pay high costs) to the producer (who has the information and can display it easily and cheaply).
It is really, really hard to figure out what I’m eating.
I go weeks with absolutely no idea what the hell I’m eating. It’s a problem.
The persimmons, they just sit there looking at me questioningly and I don’t know what to tell them.
Bake Sales Fall Victim to Push for Healthier Foods By Patricia Leigh Brown in the NYTimes on November 9, 2008:
Doesn’t she know? There is no such thing as bad food, there are only bad people.
Brock, as another person who takes health and nutrition seriously, Brock you need to get a grip. These “initiatives” are driven by the belief that people are not responsible to take the minimalist amount of effort for their own health. it’s a false premise. People are out of shape because they didn’t realize that eating crap was bad for them?
eliminate one of those ‘Brocks’ – I’m having keyboard issues and it’s hard enough to make it through a sentence, let alone having it make sense.
I’m with Brock: I shall not rest until all chemical formulas be specified, organic chemistry books, etc., be provided, and courses mandated as our Right according the the Doctrine of “Positive” Liberties. – the more junk in “food”, the better.
Repeating this as many times as possible is also valuable
This doesn’t raise the cost of business
Yeah, that chemical analysis performs itself!
My sister tried to convince me those endame things were good. I was polite and tried one, and tried not to mutter that dieting sucks.
Old Dad, don’t worry, you will be fuck-helped by Obama.
Honestly, why eat endame when you could have pomegranate or something yummy like that?
Do you know how hard it is to figure out just what you’re eating?
There are tons of websites that offer the nutritional content of pretty much any type of food, including the stuff you get at fast food and other chain restaurants. As someone who did Weight Watchers and had to count points, it was not exactly a huge challenge to figure the point contents of most foods. Plus, it’s not difficult to intuitively figure out that McDonald’s might be something I want to avoid. You know, common sense and all that.
Then don’t eat at the places that don’t give you the information that you want and tell them that’s why you aren’t eating there. Tell your friends to do the same.
Laws never seem to go away, but companies will do things for profit.
#34: How about “Space for rent inside!”
But, Crankycon, it feels so much nicer to blame someone else for your obesity.
Of course, Brock, the rich people who eat at exclusive restaurants would find such labeling vulgar and insulting.
So they’re exempt. Naturally.
After all, it’s about looking after a different kind of folk, isn’t it?
Simple heuristic: If CSPI says it, it’s stupid bullshit.
They’re never right about anything, and always call for maximum statist intervention in everything.
(This is especially hilarious since they want sodium listed, but the best available science suggests that sodium is not of any significant health interest unless one is already hypertensive, or eats so much salt-cured food as to risk stomach cancer. But the bogeyman of “sodium intake” will take years to die; there’s too much received knowledge to fight back against effectively.)
Techie: I suspect it could be okay on those grounds because it would be an undue burden on individual restaurants. Wendy’s and BK both already have nutritional info for all their products and can without significant burden generate new data for new products at the corporate level.
An individual restaurant, that doesn’t produce from pre-packaged standardised ingredients and measure out quantities by weight or count – especially one with nightly-changing chef’s specials – can’t endure a burden like that.
A rule such that “any business over size X must comply, but those under size X need not” seems to be generally valid, especially if X can be shown to be reasonably related to the level of burden proportional to the business and any (in this case notional, I reckon) state interest.
(The problem with this law is that it’s a stupid law, that tries to accomplish a goal that cannot be accomplished by means of a law, uselessly producing regulations that only waste effort and do nothing else.)
The authorities better start hunting down all of those people on http://www.yeswecake.com and smashing those decadent, rich, frosty homages to Dear Leader, especially the racist ones.
You’re not a business major, are you?
I say the premise is simply ridiculous. Anyone who eats REGULARLY at any restaurant that is big enough to fall under such laws – well, honestly, shouldn’t they know better?
What I’m saying – is that it is a useless, feel-good law.
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As someone who takes his nutrition very seriously, I am a big supporter of these initiatives. Do you know how hard it is to figure out just what you’re eating? ”
Veal, breading, mozzarella, tomato sauce and Parmesan cheese.
How hard is that?
Carin,
Yeah, that whole personal responsibility thing is a bear for a lot of people. It must have been somebody else cramming that third plate of pasta in my mouth all those years.
“Do you know how hard it is to figure out just what you’re eating? â€Â
You are into glory holes aren’t you?
“What I’m saying – is that it is a useless, feel-good law.”
Which describes a goodly portion of leftism, does it not?
What comes next is “carbon footprints” I think. God these people are gay.
Crankycon, you are not to blame. If you’d only KNOWN. There outta be a law …
This would be a good time to plug the P90X series ;) I’m on my third time through the series. Screw those nannystaters. Get in shape w/o their bullshit assistance.
Honestly, I think liberals love it when they can point to some middle America Red State as fat. They use it to bolster their superiority.
It’s not that hard. Really.
A couple of years ago, I lost 100 pounds on Weight Watchers. It was easy enough to figure out what I could eat and what I couldn’t, and how various foods fit into the diet.
Lots of restaurants will provide nutrition information if you ask for it. ALL the fast-food chains will do it. MOST chain restaurants will.
But, hell, that would require you taking personal responsibility. Can’t fucking have that, can we?
Super Size Option is a “_____-ist” plot by evil Bu$hitler corporate Fox News shills to distract from the real issue of reparations!
“Honestly, I think liberals love it when they can point to some middle America Red State as fat. They use it to bolster their superiority.”
And you should see the size of some of the sloppy fat fucks walking around Philadelphia which is as blue as a voting cabal as you can get. You’ve never seen such a collection of unhealthy slobs.
Jack, the population of Detroit isn’t exactly the epitome of good health either.
I do look forward to the patriotic dissent of Urban-Americans when Obama shuts down fast food as part of the national health plan. Hope! Change! Arugula!
First they came for the Whoppers, but I didn’t care. I preferred Quarter Pounders.
And then they came for the Frosties, but I didn’t care. Sonic had better malts anyway.
And then they came for Dominos. That hit pretty close to home, but CiCic’s would do.
But then they came for the beer, and that was just damn enough. Six of us from the ‘hood got our guns and captured about twelve of the local food nazis. We took’em to the local Dairy Queen and made’em eat banana splits ’till they puked. When they begged for bottled water we gave them Dr. Pepper and a chili-dog.
Then, the damnedest thing happened. A skinny guy wearing a Che tee asked meekly for a Blizzard with M and M’s. Then this chick with a moustache asked politely for double Brazier plain with pickle–she was kind of a freak. Before you know it, those nazis has racked up about a $700 bill. We made’em pay. This middle-aged guy with a ponytail had good plastic. He whined a little, but a lemon smoothie shut him up.
It was sweet.
Personally I’d rather be dead than have the government mandate how I take care of my body. That’s why I shudder at the thought of national health care, the slime that makes this particular slippery slope shine so prettily.
I can see one benefit from this though, I know I won’t get fucked out of my tomato.
When the new Official Board of Accredited Menu Analysis is established, mandated to verify new dishes created in restaurants, and inspect and test regularly to assure accuracy of chemical make-up, strict portion control will necessarily be accurate or subject to prohibitive fines and possible loss of business license.
There better be a tomato on that burger, bitch.
Tomato? Sorry, Mr. lee, the tomato paperwork hasn’t cleared yet. Check back in 60 days.
How do you get shirts so clean, Mr. Lee?
I blame O’s Manwichean vision.
The New York Times is trading below its 52-week low just now. This is because they are the suck I think. How embarrassing for them.
Well, yes. Of course it is.
…it’s about looking after a different kind of folk, isn’t it?
Yeah, “Number One”:
The Trashman, he throws all his scraps right out into the yard, x 32 years – never see Bear. Trashman’s neighbor, Libman, he now tells Trashman not to, because it “might attract Bears” – try to make Trashman scared of trash. Fat chance.
Meanwhile Libman, he spend 28 years gathering trash, put right near Trashman’s yard – must bait Bears, kill them. But Libman, he no bait Bears anymore – it’s illegal. So now he worry about “trash” – Libman suddenly scared of trash, try to “help” Trashman – also have Narcissistic OCD.
As a confirmed Obama skeptic I suggest you take another tack. It is not the conservatives that are going to be up in arms about Obama, it’s going to be the left.
The following video will give you the correct tone of the new administration. See if you can spot Rahm Emanuel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yezu0L3gCU
Hey, Brock, let clue you in: If it’s that hard for you to figure out, don’t fuckin’ eat there! Got it? ‘Course, if you really are that dim, and it appears that you are, you shouldn’t be driving, either.
Since the dawning of the O! era last Tuesday, I am now consistently The Way Lost Dog, thank you very much.
Yesterday, by brother from another mother said to me (in all seriousness): “We have to change our system, because Capitalism obviously doesn’t work”.
I tried to point out to him that when brain dead government people stick their dicks (and what-d’ya call ’ems) into the system, of course it ain’t gonna work. He just muttered something about “Bush, Cheney, and Rove, the three most evil people in world history. As usual with this friend, I immediately knew it was a losing battle to fight in an arena devoid of history and facts.
Anyway, I think Mommy Bloomberg should be in charge of all food etiquette in this country. I mean, after all, he is the Julia “Jesus” Child of YOUR health, and he is from the government, and is only here to help you. He can’t help it if you are too stupid to feed yourself right. YOU FUCKING HOPELESS MORONS!
I am trying to keep a game face about recent event’s, but every time I take my shoes off, there is more pee in them than the day before. That is not a good omen, as far as I am concerned.
brother:“We have to change our system, because Capitalism obviously doesn’t workâ€Â.
The Trashman Cometh – pick up brother.
Why, yes, Brock–if that is your real name–all food must be labeled so that we know what’s in it. I look forward to the day when I have to peel a nutrition label off of an apple that ever so helpfully reads: Serving Size: 1 medium apple (about 150g)
Calories 80
Total Fat 0g
Dietary Fiber 5g
Vitamin C 20% Daily Value (thx Netlobo)
Because I surely would never eat an apple without that helpful information. I mean, I’ve gone my whole life thinking that an apple contains as much fat as a stick of butter! And as much sodium as a barrel of salt! Because I’m as much of a fucking completely clodpated simpleton as you are!
Not that I mean to sound insulting or anything.
It´s just because Philadelphia doesn´t have any other problems.
It won’t end until YOU care meya. Then the advancement of the nannystate will come to a screeching halt, quivering at your steely eye and firm conviction. Other peoples concerns are of no concern to you, we know.
First they came for those making over 250,000/yr., and I didn’t…
You must learn to love Big Brother.
As someone who takes his nutrition very seriously, I am a big supporter of these initiatives. Do you know how hard it is to figure out just what you’re eating?
I know what you mean, dude. I was still trying to deal with hambugers not being ham when I tried to scramble an eggplant. I have never recovered from the trauma, I only eat in the dark.
This doesn’t raise the cost of business, it just transfers the cost of discovery from the customer (who is at a disadvantage and must pay high costs) to the producer (who has the information and can display it easily and cheaply).
Apparently there is a whole world of shit Brock hasn’t figured out, huh?
“Why, yes, Brock–if that is your real name–all food must be labeled so that we know what’s in it. I look forward to the day when I have to peel a nutrition label off of an apple that ever so helpfully reads: Serving Size: 1 medium apple (about 150g)”
I’d say if there’s anything other than apple there, they better say what it is.
What I really want to know, is how much exercise it takes to burn off those calories. Maybe we could get some of those ObamaJungen to paint little steps down the sidewalks with little numbers for how many calories you burn on your walk.
The other day I walked 4 miles in my Westfield shopping mall and could find no food ‘cept pies, pastries, cakes, donuts and truly disgusting stale sushi. I longed for a wholegrain salad sandwich.I finally gave in and had the lowest carb and fat yoghurt strawberry smoothie at Wendys. Please america no more fast food franchises in Oz.On the matter of choice, I think when it comes to things that evoke the brain’s pleasure centres – see, dopaminergic system, genes for leptin, gastrin and substances too numerous to mention (If interested subscribe to Obesity or diabetes Journals) that choice is an illusion. Many are ignorant of the consequences of longterm consumption of these noxious but tasty foods – arachnadonic acid, palm oil, trans fats etc. and are in the grip of an addiction just as powerful as heroin, but more subtle, beguiling and difficult to kick. As a 62yrold, normally law-abiding citizen I have been sorely tempted to graffiti a Krispy Kreme Donut outlet that set up just a hundred yards from a gym where morbidly obese adults and children exercise. Anyone in Australia,’ave a go!Goodonya Happyfeet. Carin, parents are feeding this crap to their kids while they dash from one minimum wage job to another and have fuckall time to cook, they dont have the education even if they had the time and/or motivation. Curb your dog – Curb your fast food industry. Your hospitals are engorged by type 2 diabetics and their gross sequelae, amputations, kidney disease and heart failure etc. Or blow one up, that is a fast food joint – after personnel leaves of course. Better still start a healthy food outlet. You’d make a fortune if you set up near Drs. offices that invariably these days are counselling their clients to eat healthy ie. lo-fat and lotsa fruit and veggies… Wishing all a healthy and poetic life, Mindlesley.
“As a 62yrold, normally law-abiding citizen I have been sorely tempted to graffiti a Krispy Kreme Donut outlet that set up just a hundred yards from a gym where morbidly obese adults and children exercise.”
Them fatsos might want to volunteer for the chain gang. Then they’d be OUTLAWS.
mindlesley, we have someone like you here already but he takes a different approach. His name is Jared.
yadda-yadda-yadda
Curb your tongue.
Hat Trick !
Or blow one up, that is a fast food joint – after personnel leaves of course.
mindlesly, better wait til ol’ W is gone before inciting terrorism, he may be reading.
I hope he is and sends the black helicopters and a CIA hit team to your lovely Island.
Sleep tight asshole.
so many assertions… so little time….
Many are ignorant of the consequences of longterm consumption of these noxious but tasty foods…
Yeah, but they apparently can’t read anyway, so what’s your point?
The other day I walked 4 miles in my Westfield shopping mall and could find no food ‘cept pies, pastries, cakes, donuts and truly disgusting stale sushi.
Why are you wasting so much time in Malls, you fool? Plus, they are addictive. There, now you’ve been “counseled”.
I finally gave in and had the lowest carb and fat yoghurt strawberry smoothie at Wendys.
You were robbed, you moron. Do you think you are going to die from having to eat half a donut? Bring some jerky with you, brainchild. More free counseling…..
Oh, and this problem has already been solved by Wal Mart Superstores. They’re way out in front of you. But the really “smart” people go to Malls, like you.
And wtf kind of sizeable Mall is it that only serves pastries? Do you also only fly out of [mythical] airports which only serve candy? Do you live on Pleasure Island?
Really, how many salvagable people don’t already know they shouldn’t live off of only chocolate creme pies?
Further free counseling tip: read all of the previous posts. That’s it, now it’s up to you, which was also actually the real problem all along. You have the same problem which afflicts the unknown numbers of “victims” which you say you want to save. Government can’t make you do it.
That’s odd? I shot a duck the other day and I noticed there was no nutritional information provided at all. You’d think somebody would have done something about that. Strange. Don’t you think?
#89
In a free society choices have consequences.
Which is why mindless and the like are intent on eliminating our free society.
mind lesley – now! – seems to think that s/he is either going to be a member of The Directorate which makes The Rules, or else that The Rules are going to be true/effective simply by virtue of being The Rules.
There you have it, lesley’s Rules – the sum of lesley’s thought capacity, which fears free thought to the point of wanting to either end it or enslave it, just as the Islamos do.
Trashman et al, are all you fellow anarcho-libertarians trying to tell me that you can run a complex society without rules? George W. had 8 years to make his neo-con philosophy work. You and your ilk are just as extreme and anti-democratic as any Islamic fascists. By the way, I’ve got kidney failure(I do home hemodialysis 4x a week) and diabetes from making a lot of so-called free choices in my youth. I’m not eschewing the occasional donut for others, it’s just that when I eat one the fat makes me feel positively ill.And as a woman (yes,T. I know you are concerned), my protective feelings click in when I see young people being seduced by a corrupt industry – even Macka’s Lite-washed offerings are nutritionally impoverished and too calorie dense. We grew up in the Savannah, that is the human species, or don’t you believe in evolution either? And are not generally able to eat such a calorie/fat dense diet longterm. I am not telling you about my health problems to extort any pity much less empathy (in which I’ve noticed your sadly lacking)but just to illustrate my argument.I enjoy my life to the full and dig trying to cross social and political borders to communicate with those with whom I wouldn’t usually correspond. I appreciate a vigorous exchange of views but value people for their ‘hearts’ rather than ‘heads’. If you get to survive all your “free” choices and the resultant bile, I hope you temper your stridency in the future. Blog sites appear, at their worst, to be places where the uninformed play out their fantasies of direct put-downs that very few would dare to in actuality. As far as being addicted to shopping malls, it’s the 1st visit I had in a month, I hate them. And I went there to deliver a sample of my blood to the pathologist for monthly crossmatching for a kidney transplant – talk about assumptions! Rusty, its funny but labelling that duck would have been redundant as we in Oz believe that game is good for you and hence no need for label; ditto with restaurant food each meal is hand-crafted, and most chefs today are more nutritionally aware. Happyfeet try letting your Persimmon be itself and start blogging. I’ll look out for Jared. I hope this isn’t a trap. Your (slightly) wounded correspondent Mindlesley.
come on gang give me a comment at least,if not a kidney, chopped of course, and served with grain-fed beefand chilli,in a puffed pastry pie,dripping with lard,and sauce of green bile.
I know it’s late in blog central but… Mindlesley