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debate hangover

If anybody needs me, I’ll be curled up in bed.

Incidentally, any of you feel like donating a decent hand gun? I’d offer to buy it outright, but unfortunately I’m putting all my money into canned soups and beans just now — and so the only protection I can offer my family is my ability to kill most people with my bare hands.

But that’s always contingent on their number and their tools. I’d really like to even the odds a bit.

Kim du Toit? You out there? HELP A BROTHER OUT!

112 Replies to “debate hangover”

  1. SarahW says:

    I am a good shot with the RAID. I got one hella sucker of a spider the other night.

    But I’m thinking I ought to invest in some high-pressure bee-nest stuff. For the range.

  2. Mr. Pink says:

    How about stocking up on a nice XM radio before they turn off the AM bandwidth? Or will they ban XM too who knows. I am so looking forward to all my new freedoms though. They are raining from they sky like freakin skittles. Somehow all I taste is shit though and no rainbow.

  3. SarahW says:

    I raised my eyebrows at Captain Ed’s summation myself this am. It seems a little optimistic.

  4. Mr. Pink says:

    Hard to be optimistic personally when we have a politician running for the highest executive office in the United States who can just say “I believe every American has a right to the “service” of another” and the Repub sits there taking notes. Did we ever get to the fine that would occur if we do not partake of our new “right”?

  5. thor says:

    Oh c’mon, it’s only an election. It’s not like it’s the break of a new dawn in America.

    Add some books by Celine and a James Brown CD to your Amazon wish list and let’s see what happens.

  6. psycho... says:

    I have a dangerously shitty purse gun of dubious provenance that I can leave in some shrubbery for you.

    Lonely stewardesses kiss the dead until they pant the name of house and home, if you know what I’m saying.

    WINK

  7. Mr. Pink says:

    “Oh c’mon, it’s only an election. It’s not like it’s the break of a new dawn in America.”

    More like the break of a Red Dawn. Watch out for the cereal thor or you will be the first one to get bugged.

  8. Mr. Pink says:

    Funny thing is Bob Barr wasn’t even there last night but he mighta won my vote.

  9. thor says:

    Piping hot bowl of resentment, anyone?

  10. JimK says:

    You can pick up cheap used Keltecs in 32 or 380. Not great, but they’ll do the job in a pinch.

  11. dicentra says:

    A cordless drill can do in a pinch. If you need some range, they’re light enough to throw.

  12. Mr. Pink says:

    Resentment…How could anyone not just love a new Right guarenteed by our Government? They are so extra special. I want one every day. Maybe tommorrow McCain can promise me a new Right too. Oh wait he is not a Constitutional scholar though so maybe he will not have studied all these new 21st Century Rights. Can you give me any hints where I can read up on my new rights Thor? Marx maybe?

  13. happyfeet says:

    Senator McCain will win, as he is clearly the superior choice.

  14. Silver Whistle says:

    Sorry, mate, all I have spare is an old single barrel Webley 12 ga. I’m clinging to the rest.

  15. urthshu says:

    make your own. if two-bit hoods can make zip guns, I’m sure you can come up with something.

    Just test it on War and Peace, ‘cuz nobody and nothing gets through Tolstoy

  16. Aldo says:

    May I suggest getting a government job? Members of government unions will make out very nicely in an Obama administration. Those of us in the private sector? Not so much.

  17. mcgruder says:

    Mr Pink,
    the fact that the GOP’er was there taking notes while this was said is precisely the reason were in this mess.

    I define mess at least partially as the looming inevitability of the Obama presidency, BTW. Triple excellent bonus: at some point in the next four years when things improve, and they will, he will claim it is because of his policies. And coast to a second term.

  18. urthshu says:

    Hey, yeah. As a commissar, you’ll get whatever guns you need!

  19. Sean M. says:

    I don’t see what you’re all so worried about. Why, we’re all about to move to The Big Rock Candy Mountain. Wheeeeeeeee!!!

    (Okay, yeah, I weep for the future, too.)

  20. MarkD says:

    You don’t want a handgun. They take a lot of time and ammo to get and stay proficient.

    You want a shotgun. Or a .22 rifle, if you’re looking to supplement the soup and beans with a little squirrel or rabbit meat.

  21. cranky-d says:

    What’s good about having a government job is that you work for the government and are then taxed by the same government to pay your wages. So it’s a perfect closed system, right?

    Why are you looking at me like that?

  22. Silver Whistle says:

    Good heavens, someone else has an old Webley. He’ll be lucky to get £90 – mine came free with my 10 ga.

  23. urthshu says:

    Speaking of soup and beans, though – anybody else think the story “Stone Soup” is a pile of shit? Just curious.

  24. slackjawedyokel says:

    I have to admit that my retirement plans really didn’t include laying out my spare magazines on the forward edge of my fighting hole as I prepared to defend my little slice of the Shenandoah Valley. Oh, well. The good news is that if they just wing me, I now have the Right to medical care, regardless of any pre-existing condition.

  25. Salt Lick says:

    Silver Whistle — the lawn of practically every county courthouse in the American South sports a statue of a Civil War-era Confederate soldier. The one in Highland County, Virginia (the geographic equivalent of your Orkney Islands) is carrying a WWII SMLE.

  26. Mr. Pink says:

    Are they celebrating this on left wing websites? I thought George Bush was the one that was supposed to be subverting the Constitution? He never went on national television and just made up new rights off the top of his head.

  27. Dash Rendar says:

    Maybe Baracky and Pelosi and Reid will get fancy mercedes limousines with retractable tops with 2 little O! flags in the front above the headlights. I think that they will make the rest of the world like us again maybs.

  28. SarahW says:

    Providence formed this nation. What the hell has Providence got up its sleeve now?

  29. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “I can offer my family is my ability to kill most people with my bare hands”

    Do not sell that ability short. It comes in handy at times. However, as age starts to do its bidding against me, contigencies need to be planned. Hand gun it is.

    Aldo, in #16, has a point. I don’t work for the feds but a large county government. However, being a classical liberal working for big government is probably like a vegetarian working in a slaughterhouse. It hurts, man. It hurts.

    mcgruder, in #17, hits that particular nail on the head, too. Of course it will get better, the market does that, but O!, as would any pol to be sure, will take all the credit in the world. And none of these fawning freaks will be able to tell us just exactly HOW he did it.

  30. SarahW says:

    We’re all possums, or something.

  31. Dash Rendar says:

    I think when Baracky folks talk about “subverting the Constitution” they really mean governing based on the Constitution and not feeding it the right miracle grow to make it all extra lively.

  32. Sigivald says:

    A Makarov costs maybe $150, tops, last I checked.

    Or just get a .22 rifle, like MarkD said.

    Or both.

  33. SevenEleventy! says:

    President Bush knows you need to ratify an amendment to change the Constituition. Senators Biden and Obama obviously don’t.

  34. Salt Lick says:

    Providence formed this nation. What the hell has Providence got up its sleeve now?

    “The lioness is hungry; SHE does not have this ox. The cart is heavy. WE do not have this ox. God is great, Sabu; he plays with us.”

  35. Dash Rendar says:

    “but O!, as would any pol to be sure, will take all the credit in the world”

    Maybe the media is only anti-American when a Republican is in the white house now, so they’ll give O! all the credit for Iraq by saying the O! was the greatest advocate for ‘changing course’ in Iraq and his o so wonderful leadership led us to glorious victory. It took someone who knows ‘muslims’ to defeat the muslim extremists, etc. The memes basically right themselves and I’m sure Donna Brazille is salivating over the prospect of the O!rwellian switcheroo.

  36. Mr. Pink says:

    “The good news is that if they just wing me, I now have the Right to medical care, regardless of any pre-existing condition.”

    Oh hell yeah. I forgot to factor this in to my original assesment. You are a person who has the “right” to medical care. What about a viable fetus? Oh no they are not people. What about a Down syndrom baby or one with a birth defect that will need constant medical care like Trig? I am sure the Government will really frown on the prohibitive costs of taking care of those kids won’t they. Probably set up some system where you either can not have them, or it will be really frowned upon. Fantastic I can’t wait for the new rights we will get to forced sterilization at the age of 40 for women. No Down syndrom babies then.

  37. urthshu says:

    whatever. when Baracky gets the Supreme nominations, they’ll find that Right, dammit

  38. shank says:

    Jeff-
    I second MarkD’s thoughts. A handgun takes a permit, and those take a good number of weeks in background checks. Plus if you’re not an avid shooter, it’s going to be like trying to throw a sewing needle at someone. If you want something to protect the home, might I suggest a very nice 12ga. shotgun. They’re great for home defense because they’re big and scary; but also because you can use them indoors without having to worry about a round going through your house and into another, especially if you go with a modified choke.

  39. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    Without a doubt, Dash. That’s why I’m making it a point to punch every media member I see in the face for these next few weeks.

  40. Dash Rendar says:

    Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/8 @ 11:28 am

    Cold Spring harbor labs eugenics with a newer, more smiley face. Mandatory gene therapy and/or screening to weed out the deficiencies, because the Ministry of Healthcare just can’t afford you having all those babies especially the not-so-smart, not-so-pleasant ones. Its all for the greater good, you understand, don’t you?

  41. happyfeet says:

    No. Baracky is for real serious about this socialism thing. Card check is not something someone who is committed to freedom could ever countenance. And all that mandatory volunteerism. And he loves that fucking word sacrifice. Baracky would be shocked I think to have the measure of how little I would sacrifice for his bitch ass.

  42. urthshu says:

    you know, on the 12ga argument for home defense, I fall on the .20ga or smaller side. A 12ga is good as Hell, but inside in the dark it’d be like a thunderclap, blinding and deafening you. Plus, smaller gauges are cool for the wimmins who won’t go out shootin’ much. If they shoot, less of a problem, natch.

  43. Dash Rendar says:

    Comment by happyfeet

    Even the crazy socialists at my college I so recently departed who hated corporations especially Coca-Cola, cuz it was so successful I think and they hate icky syrupy drinks and fast food, abhorred card check and told me as much. I wonder how the cognitive dissonance feels.

  44. happyfeet says:

    It’s beyond the pale, Dash, except maybe in Venezuela. I don’t understand the firearms meme though. It seems the very opposite of resourcefulness I think. And the whole thing about beans. As if beans were even edible without bacons. I will have much to learn I think.

  45. urthshu says:

    Anyway, I don’t sweat the debate thinger too much b/c I know that somewhere there’s a GOP Wonk who was checking the polls and decided that McCain had to reach whatever infinitesimal segment of undeciders that night, and that he did that. He wasn’t talking to you or me.

    Plus, historically, McCain brings the A-bombs on the last debate. This one was more seed-planty.

    OK, gotta go for now

  46. Dash Rendar says:

    What’s the likelihood that sex changes will be covered in the O! medical plan, because otherwise we’d be discriminating against the LGBT crowd. Tranny Mae.

  47. Rich Cox says:

    Shank A handgun takes a permit

    Not so in Colorado. At least up ’till 2004.

  48. Mr. Pink says:

    Oh I totally understand. Good thing we have judges who will serve as a check on the Executive Branch of Government just rewriting our Constitution to do those things. Oh wait…..

  49. Velociman says:

    Handguns I got. I’m looking for field artillery. Perhaps a nice brass napoleon to rake the hillside leading up to the hovel. Jeff, if Kim doesn’t come thorugh perhaps you could kill them with Kimbo Slice’s bare hands.

  50. Dash Rendar says:

    O my how the crazies love Venezuela. Its really just incomprehensible except that there might be some logic circuit in their brains that ceases to function at the mention of socialism. I say well your pal Chavez doesn’t like us to much because we’re all rich and successful and the socialism really does the opposite, and they’re all like did you see how much the CEO of [insert company] made and another flurry of talking points.

  51. Dash Rendar says:

    Hmmm, I’ve been thinking about digging a big hole in the backyard and waterproofing it and all that, store my remington 700 that the fine folks of pw recc’d me, and some cases of progresso 0 calorie Italian style soup, maybe I’ll get a nightvision too if I still have the monies.

  52. happyfeet says:

    I’m with urthshu by the way. Baracky still languishes under 50% even in polls that maybe you put a lot of stock in but I don’t really. Baracky’s Associated Press and their new German friends are especially ridiculous. I think current events will sink his little Baracky ship. Baracky exploiting a financial crisis with Harry and Nancy is too unsettling for majorities of demographics what actually vote. There’s some serious change afoot already if anyone is paying attention, and now Baracky’s pitch is hey let’s just say fuck all this shit and do it my way.

  53. Mr. Pink says:

    No happy it is all bad. Look at this gem by Shumer. The Dem’s are now openly assaulting free speech of political opponents. Notice that the judges deciding that political ads on television WERE allowed is what is causing his outrage.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/schumer-rips-chamber-of-commerce-2008-10-08.html

    “Schumer specifically blamed the Wisconsin Right to Life decision by the U.S. Supreme Court last year — a ruling in which the court said issue-based ads were allowed within 60 days of a general election. That decision “changed the rules” and allowed little-known special interest groups to funnel undisclosed amounts of money into political advertising, the senator said.

    “The justices should be embarrassed of this decision,” Schumer stated.”

  54. cranky-d says:

    I hope you’re right, hf, because I can be counted among those who think Obama will win.

  55. Dash Rendar says:

    Just recall 2004 when all the BDS crowd were like, “It’s finally over, Bush surely can’t win, I mean we’re just so right here,” and a 3 million vote margin later millions of heads collectively sploded. Don’t quite think the electoral map has shifted and polls are polls. Sample 10-15% more Dems and you get the “correct” results that the NYT knows are correct.

  56. Mr. Pink says:

    Next up O! flipping on the Fairness Doctrine.

  57. Dash Rendar says:

    Now to disregard what I just said about polls:
    Hope and change: McCain within one in Hotline, two in Zogby
    (http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/08/hope-and-change-mccain-within-one-in-hotline-two-in-zogby/)

  58. Dash Rendar says:

    Bolivia holding up quite well under the socialism Ayers likes so much.
    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bolivia-spirals-toward-crisis/

  59. SarahW says:

    Happyfeet, I will crawl on my knees over broken glass to vote againt Mr. Baracky and I know there are many like myself.

    However, this is so not 2004. Unmotivated constituencies in prior elections will be crawling on their knees over broken glass to vote FOR Mr. Baracky, and they will have so much help doing it even the dead ones and the imaginary ones will materialize to cast a ballot for his bagmanchurian ass.

    They are blind, eager willing dupes, and they will be out in unprecedented inspired droves.

    They are quite content to be sell themselves into slavery to the state.

  60. SarahW says:

    Decent people I know are going to vote for Baracky because they can’t bear to admit their love for him is misplaces.

  61. SarahW says:

    He is the Lorax that speaks for the trees. He is the prince of peace. He is the messiah.

  62. RC says:

    dash, forget the 0 calorie soup get the most calorific you can. By the time O! is done we’ll be trapping field mice for the protein.

  63. SarahW says:

    He will make us citizens of the WORLD, not some cracker America.

  64. SarahW says:

    We shall get our Vero Possumus stew and like it.

  65. Dash Rendar says:

    I lied, I made some of the soup and it actually has 60 calories, so there’s that.

  66. SarahW says:

    They don’t want to see what he is. They just can’t bear for it to be true.

  67. SarahW says:

    And McCain just can’t tempt them away from the happy dreams.

  68. Dash Rendar says:

    RE, situation in Bolivia,

    “The UN and many foreign press articles condemned the prefects [capitalists] as rich, white, racist oligarchs who are killing poor, unarmed, peaceful, indigenous farmers [minorities, women, children]. This is also the line that CNN used on a story about the 10,000- to 12,000-strong mob [death squad] that is surrounding Santa Cruz [Washington]. Sitting in Bolivia, it just doesn’t seem to be so one-sided.”

    All brackets my addition, RE potential Obama disaster. Damn HTML.

  69. Clint says:

    Good thing Chicago has such a large rabbit population. Now is probably the time to start filling those empty boxes in my storage unit with spam and soup.

  70. Silver Whistle says:

    Salt Lick,

    Sorry, had to bail out and have a couple of quick rums with a friend who popped by.

    I find that statue thing really funny – what on earth were they thinking? Was the SMLE the only rifle they could find a picture of?

     My ancestors settled in the Shenandoah. Does that make us kinfolk?

  71. Silver Whistle says:

    And I’m with Shank – the scattergun is a fine tool for house protection.

  72. mgl says:

    They don’t want to see what he is. They just can’t bear for it to be true.

    SarahW, this is too true. I mean, large blocs of the electorate will always vote for one party or the other, so there are tons of people who will vote Obama simply because he’s D-Illinois, or McCain because simply because he’s R-Arizona. Those aren’t the ones we should be worrying about.
    But the worldwide personality cult of O! is deeply, deeply creepy. If I was an evangelical, he’d be pinging my antichrist meter like crazy by now, and I’d be preparing for the Rapture. (Fortunately, I’m Catholic …)

  73. Ana says:

    Guns: My seven-year-old had a nightmare about being attacked by a leopard or some other big cat. The usual child-overwhelmed-by-greater-destructive-force nightmare. Says he: It was so scary Mommy. No one was even ARMED.

    Teach your children well. Tomorrow we memorize the Preamble to the Constitution and talk about the Bill of Rights vs. Maslow’s hierarchy of needs.

  74. Jeff G. says:

    So. No gun, then?

    Bummer.

    Crossbow? Anybody care to front me a crossbow?

  75. sashal says:

    jeff, we will become dissidents.
    We will listern to independent radio from abroad, we will try to get at foriegn consulates’ the independent magazines and newspapers.
    I will teach you the kitchen talk, certain code words, black market survival skills etc. to deal with Marxist oppression.
    My experience will help .
    I also have a friend pharmacists, he can get you some pills to deal with paranoia and grand illusions…

  76. happyfeet says:

    oh. Crossbows are mostly effective against nightwalkers I think. Please don’t tell me we gots goddamn nightwalkers to deal with on top of all this other shit.

  77. Dash Rendar says:

    Crossbows also no good against zombies, maybe explosive tipped c-bow. Illiterate, ahistorical O! Zombies seem to be the problem.

  78. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    No gun…yet. No cross bow, either. However, if you’re in need of either a masonic sabre, a 16 inch curved bowie knife or a 42 inch bastard sword. Say the word.

  79. Silver Whistle says:

    I also have a friend pharmacists, he can get you some pills to deal with paranoia and grand illusions…

    The irony is strong with this one.

  80. JHoward says:

    Talking to a very bright friend today. “Police state” comes up. Sure it’s over the top…or is it in the sense of trajectory? Inevitability?

    O! had a good chance before, what with peeps seeing govt as service provider. But now the Fed screws things up > banks go under > dems get control due to irrational fear > Change! occurs > dependency results > dependency displaces freedom.

    Change is indeed in the air. If I were a libertarian like thor, I’d be concerned.

  81. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    “Illiterate, ahistorical O! Zombies seem to be the problem.”

    Comment #75 is a perfect case in point, Dash.

  82. Ana says:

    Thor is not a libertarian.

  83. SarahW says:

    “Promote the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity.”

    Liberation from liberty is what we’ll be passing down. Because the government ought to be deciding how you excercise your time, spend your money, what comforts you may enjoy, and ought to helpfully guide all your moral choices and pursuits.

  84. Carin says:

    Not to mention JHoward, you have a media that is WILLINGLY going along with the agenda…

  85. royf says:

    Change is indeed in the air. If I were a libertarian like thor, I’d be concerned.

     

    ROTFL!

  86. JHoward says:

    Scrape together a couple bills, Jeff, and then maybe wait this out. Check the sales.

  87. Obstreperous Infidel says:

    You guys laugh at thor. But I am absolutely positive there are some gay (NNTAWWT, but this man crush on O! is too over the top), sexist(fairly obvious) libertarians out there.

  88. JHoward says:

    Thor is not a libertarian.

    Hey! Appearances do too count!

    Just ask the O! constituency.

  89. Salt Lick says:

    I find that statue thing really funny – what on earth were they thinking? Was the SMLE the only rifle they could find a picture of?

    I called the courthouse and asked, but nobody knew the answer. All they knew was the statue had been ordered in the early 1900’s by the Daughters of the Confederacy Chapter and the SMLE was original to it. My guess is Sarah Palin would have noticed the anachronism, but none of the females in my family would have.

  90. JHoward says:

    You guys laugh at thor. But I am absolutely positive there are some gay (NNTAWWT, but this man crush on O! is too over the top), sexist(fairly obvious) libertarians out there.

    Probably daddy’s “love” — to hear thor tell it — leads them to hang around where their willful idiocy earns them a heaping helping of hourly abuse. Old habits die hard.

  91. Salt Lick says:

    My ancestors settled in the Shenandoah. Does that make us kinfolk?

    Maybe. Do they bitterly cling to guns and religion?

  92. McGehee says:

    Jeff, if somebody gives you a gun, they’ll have to bring enough for everybody.

    Which, I guess I really don’t have a problem with that.

    Except on principle, of course. If I have to buy my guns you can damn well have to buy yours.

  93. McGehee says:

    From what I know of how my ancestors moved, they apparently went to the Shenandoah and found it too crowded, so they kept going.

  94. thor says:

    #

    Comment by sashal on 10/8 @ 12:49 pm #

    jeff, we will become dissidents.
    We will listern to independent radio from abroad, we will try to get at foriegn consulates’ the independent magazines and newspapers.
    I will teach you the kitchen talk, certain code words, black market survival skills etc. to deal with Marxist oppression.
    My experience will help .
    I also have a friend pharmacists, he can get you some pills to deal with paranoia and grand illusions…

    Listen to Sash, Jeff. Don’t worry, I have books. Books they don’t want you to read, Jeff. And foreign currency! Stas can get you fake Breitling watches, Dima can get you black market SIM cards for iPhones, and Dima can show you how to freeze your facial expressions so nobody knows if you’re throwin’ down insults or compliments.

    Once you re-learn yourself, assume new ideals and adjust your attitude, you not only survive you’ll be klossnoy Bubka in the coming gopnik economy, nekakya problema.

  95. JHoward says:

    “The price of serfdom is eternal apathy.”

    -thor

  96. sashal says:

    thor, we can even smuggle AK-47 for jeff

  97. JHoward says:

    “The price of serfdom is mindless conformity.”

    -sashal

  98. thor says:

    Plastic explosives and highly radioactive isotopes are so much easier to smuggle, Sash. Just one small drop in a peva and a dude’s face turns to chicken fat.

    Jeff needs the tools for asymmetrical warfare. Guns are for pussies.

  99. sashal says:

    assuming that dude drinks pivo.
    But I agree in principle.
    jeff can be one-man army with all those tools

  100. Silver Whistle says:

    Maybe. Do they bitterly cling to guns and religion?

     Oh, I come from from a long line of bitter, gun & God clingers. Some horse theives, a trunk murderess, and the usual red neck trash. Sound like we’re related?

  101. Sam Hall says:

    Just a point on cracker heirarchy. The list, in descending order, goes like so:

    Red neck

    White trash

    Poor white trash

    Sorry white trash

    Brush ape

    See, there is no such thing as red neck trash.

  102. Silver Whistle says:

    Come on now Sam, what if a red neck married his poor white trash cousin? Surely the progeny would be red neck trash?

  103. Sam Hall says:

    No, the distinctions are drawn around behavioral patterns, not lineage. There is mobility in both directions. A steady job, dental work, and a house built on a slab can take a brush ape all the way to redneck status, while a redneck can easliy wind up as a brush ape, making meth in a trailer with no electricity.

  104. ajacksonian says:

    A good .22 Ruger for putting stuff in the pot, you can find them cheap on auctions… though maybe not for much longer.

    Now, to the beasts… will they be coming in hordes or just onsies-twosies?

    If its hordes I want a Calico to Thomson… nice 100 round mags.

    If its onsies-twosies a DE 50AE so it will know to stay down once hit.

    If it needs silver bullets, you are on your own…

  105. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Posted without further comment:

    Have a look at:
    this, this, and this.

  106. Rusty says:

    Jeff. I’d lend you one but I’m keeping them handy. You see my neighbors are stocking up on the other stuff.

  107. gebrauchshund says:

    You can get more with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone.

  108. RTO Trainer says:

    The finashul jeenyus is still shorting dollars despite the Euro loosing 15% of it’s value against the $ of the last 3 and a half months?

  109. B Moe says:

    Come on now Sam, what if a red neck married his poor white trash cousin? Surely the progeny would be red neck trash?

    Depends on whose trailer they moved into, how many months pregnant she was, and how many of the bridesmaids got knocked out/up at the reception.

  110. RTO Trainer says:

    I’ve got the M4 and the Beretta 92F, both of which I’m trained on, and good connections for ammo even if (when) it’s tough to find.

  111. MAJ (P) John says:

    “making meth in a trailer with no electricity.”

    Sam Hill – So, just how did you learn so much about the southern 1/3rd of Illinois? Heh.

  112. Sigivald says:

    Aw, c’mon, Jeff.

    Guns are cheap! Sell some plasma or something, if you have no credit available.

    I mean, if I lived in CO I could give you a loaner. But the Feds kinda frown on individuals shipping guns across state lines to other individuals.

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