Me, I plan on using tonight’s debate as a drinking game: every time it occurs to me that PJM is paying someone other than me big bucks to liveblog this bitch, I’m going to do a shot of Ouzo and spank myself with any rolled up Victor Davis Hanson column I can dig up that mentions either Xerxes, Thrace, or Herodotus.
So. Let the games begin!
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post mortem: Ed Morrissey: “Both men improve, McCain wins on points”
Jeff Goldstein: “Either Morrissey has been drinking too much, or I haven’t been drinking enough.”
After tonight’s debate, the American public will be convinced that healthcare is a “right”: “individual gun ownership”? Well, that’s something we can talk about.
McCain let Obama trample his dirty little socialist feet all over the Constitution and didn’t once stop to tell the little poser to take his shoes off.
As a result, the black marks he left behind will now become part of a “living” document. Interpret at will!
God help us all.
Drink with the bad shoulder, spank with the good.
I’m putting together dinner and trying to catch up.
Obama is on full court cheating press… his brownshirts in Ohio have been rounding up every homeless vagrant, drunk, drug addict – from streets and shelters – and taking them to register/vote under their watchful eyes.
Chicago machine politics going national.
I love the homeless voting image Darleen:
“hell no I don’t have any sandwiches in here! I helped you vote, now get the fuck out of the van!”
this.is.sparta!!!!
I mean, there’s a whole Greek thing going on
Obama’s bwonshirts! Ohnoes!!Elaventy!!11!!1 Redumblicans will be forced to dwink their own urnine!!11!!
It’s Dispicable!
ace or somebody pointed out something useful to remember: these townhall things have been known to be packed with campaign plants, so be prepared to google the occasional name to flush ’em out.
“Hi, I’m Chuck Gibson….burg, and I would like to Ask Senator Obama, how did you get to be so wonderful?”
distractions WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Yay, failthor. ♥
aw, Brokaw is not just a journalist, but a citizen!
Tom just dressed them down. Why he so mean??
so this is the whack a mole debate
shut up. he’s got work to do.
“Cry Havoc, and let loose the dogs of war”!!!
Nuke ’em Mav
Peter Graves: Timmy.. have you ever seen any gladiator movies?
Don’t all VDH writings mention Xerxes, Thrace, or Herodotus?
oookay, quick nap before they start….
What’s up with the sudden profusion of countdown clocks? I saw one the other day on C-span that ran in hundredths of a second two hours before the debate was to begin.
Xerxes
Maybe he can xerox a copy of his shoulder.
Brokaw is stirring….
10 seconds!
I don’t care what you spank yourself with, as long as this debate spurs another video by that guy with the green bottle.
Reminder: On 9/22/2008, thor, CFJ (Certified Financial Jeenius) said:
Glad I shifted a bag full of dollars into them Euro coins.
Heh.
Croesus, JP Morgan, and George Soros all rolled into one, that thor.
You hear! We are not so constrained!
yay!
Obama…first lie
What’s with Brokaw’s voice? He sounds like the Bug in the Edgar suit from Men in Black.
Obama … second lie
Johny Mac hit this BASTARD hard.
Beat on the rich baby! Flog ’em good.
Oh no.
Not a junket.
Oh good bailout California
Obama promising things he cannot deliver without making sure we WILL be in a Depression
Middle-class rescue? Did he say rescue?
Oh fail. Fix nada, get the f out of the way.
Save your breath Thor. You’ll need it to blow up your date.
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Ouzo? Crikey! Can we watch?
halp! In desperate need of rescue here in middle class! *flail*
Johnny! Home values?
The market does that!
Oh f, worse! Idiot economist Johnny McC, standout stupid.
townhall format really is McCain’s best format
Want trust? Recapitalize the healthy banks.
Help me Obama!
Get lost…
Obama lies again about McCain’s statement
Obama is working directly off the lines in his campaign speeches – did he even name one name for Sec Treas?
who blew their time?
For the CHILDREN!!!!! You’ll spend more time with your kids if you vote for me.
Talk us down BHO, tell us how shitty our economy is! Yay!
Buffett. sorta…
crap that 95% REDISTRIBUTION thing from Barry
Oh good an Obama supporter
Have they ever let someone who wasn’t “having a difficult time” ask a damn question about the economy?
YEAH>>> FANNIE & FREDDIE!! thank god
Cronies! WOOT!
Oh yoiks. Taken a hammer to his hand in the cookie jar.
Here we go, is he gonna take the gloves off?
Yeah Johnnie – hit ’em with the CRA stick!
Dang, I’m really starting to regret actually putting 20% down on my house. How stupid was that?
Hmmm…is obama not even going to defend against the attack??
Fannie Freddie here we FUCKING GO. Hit it again. He hits it again. Good.
Gloom! Doom! Vote for me! McCain is teh BIG LIE!
zzzzzz, deregulation. he warned about this? really?
Obama wrote a letter.
Ooooh.
Cause that’s the power that Senators have.
Legislation?
Nah, that’s just silly.
This won’t wash, it is simply bullpucky.
Constituients right letters, jack ass. Senators write LEGISLATION! You were the one to do something about it!
If McCain lets him get by with this, fuck him.
How does one deregulate a government run operation like FM/FM? Am I wrong or wouldn’t that lead to even less oversight?
“Not interested in pointing figures” right after he finishes having done so. Smoove, O.
BULLSHIT. Greenspan was Fed chair two years ago!!!
oh gawd, Barry with the “deregulation” canard
Obama is lying should be the next words out of McCain’s mouth.
This is the beginning of the PROCESS. It’s a PROCESS. We’re going to strengthen YOUUUUUU.
Yep, just as I thought. Bernanke wasn’t in until 2007 began. Linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan#Chairman_of_the_Federal_Reserve
I thought of buying a house, but I couldn’t make the payments so I didn’t.
Does that count?
McCain is much more conversational
“Senator Obama’s name is not on that letter”
So now it’s the governments job to make sure I can pay my bills and stay in my home?
MSNBC declares Obama the winner!
I think that was fairly weak on McC’s part.
Neither one of these guys have a grasp on economics that really inspires in confidence. DOH.
Ms Finch… astroturf?
McCain needs to just bend over and drop them, Ric was right again. He is fucking clueless.
GEORGE BUSH!!!
Obama is on full court cheating press… his brownshirts in Ohio have been rounding up every homeless vagrant, drunk, drug addict – from streets and shelters – and taking them to register/vote under their watchful eyes.
That’s in Ohio. In Nevada, Baracky’s old pals are hiring them.
I wondered about that too shank.
Think it will be mentioned tomorrow?
Does that count?
No, I’m sorry apparently we only bail out the irresponsible.
Common sense will cost you every time.
Someone remind that audience that the dot com bust happened just as GW took office?
Never had a surplus, projected merely. so fail. Deficit is not highest as a function of GDP, so FAIL.
what is O! cutting? he couldn’t name anything in the last debate.
George Bush. George Bush. George Bush. He’s not running and you aren’t answering her question.
The cuts are just a secret, like Lurch’s war plans.
cannot believe a god damn democrat is looking into the camera and claiming they’re going to cut spending.
Its absurd. ABSURD !!!
So what is it that O! is going to cut.
Besides Defense, that is.
“We’ve almost doubled our national debt. Clearly I should be given a blank check to dump another trillion into paying for everyone’s college, homes and good gov’t jobs.”
The man of a million mystery donations from Kenyan princes is concerned about lobbyists and special interests?
I’m taking a shot everytime Obama says “Bush.”
And that lady couldn’t spell bi-partisanship much less know wtf that means.
FUCK YOUR BIPARTSANSHIP!
I like how he’s stumping for the budgetary watchdogs.
question; why should I trust you?
Obama: Let me tell you twelve things I promise to do.
B Moe
I don’t care anymore. The triumvirate of Obama/Pelosi/Reid will put this country into a deeper Depression then I want to think about. Minimally, a divided government is better than that.
This ‘buy up the bad mortgages’ is a horrific idea. Never mind that it’s a ginormous figure; we might as well kick California and Florida out of the Union first.
*The man of a million mystery donations from Kenyan princes is concerned about lobbyists and special interests?*
Yes if that will get him elected. He’d be for gay marriage for monkeys if it would get him elected.
Now there’s an answer. ‘Go research it and you’ll see who spends money.’
Brokaw is getting oooooold.
Dueling stump speeches. At least Biden was entertaining.
Where is this question coming from Tom?
um. yeah. maybe it’s the beer, though.
Priorities?? C’mon. Iran is getting nukes. That’s a freaking priority.
I don’t care anymore. The triumvirate of Obama/Pelosi/Reid will put this country into a deeper Depression then I want to think about. Minimally, a divided government is better than that.
Turn the heat up fast enough the frog might have sense enough to jump out.
The really sad thing is that these really are issues of substance – especially entitlement reform, but trying to explain them in a couple minutes is a fundamentally unserious approach.
Too late to replace McCain with Palin ? She’d have as much experience as the messiah.
Almost. The correct answer on Medicare/Welfare, is “we started out with the best intentions, but we just can’t do it, so we’re going to phase it out over time so those who have grown up with this system don’t get dumped and those who have the time in their lives can adjust their plans accordingly.”
Obama doesn’t want to drill, so what is he gabbing about?
Oh…. back to the fantasy of being fossil fuel free in ten years… yeah right
yeah, cause they haven’t been trying to find alternative fuels hard enough. *sigh*
I hate the ideas of a ten year plan run by the government to get us off oil. They always use NASA as an example. Look at NASA now!!
Oh, the frog will be jumping in the next couple years. This is just the beginning of the troubles, we’ll have a serious currency crisis within the next two years – there is just no avoiding it.
That is simply nonsense, ten years free of mideast oil, it’s a world market for crying out loud.
Obama for line-item veto!
Barack makes McCain look so old and slow.
I miss Joey Hairplugs
B Moe
So, how many old folks are you going to allow to be bankrupted and tossed to the curb to make that frog jump?
WELL THEN START CUTTING THEM OFF, TOM. GAWD.
Tom asserts his asswholian bona fides.
God Forbid we actually discuss anything in fucking detail.
Fuck Brokaw and fuck this piece of shit debate.
I can’t watch this shit any more.
McCain is going to cut denfense!
Up is down…
Why would you mention Ted Kennedy? John, you’re stuck on stupid.
What happened to the townhall thinger?
Spending freeze and cut programs
Does Obama EVER do anything like that?
Some programs we’re going to have to eliminate. Some really good projects. Say it dammit.
So, how many old folks are you going to allow to be bankrupted and tossed to the curb to make that frog jump?
How far are you willing to compromise the freedom of those twins?
A lot of you?
The spending freeze will never happen as long as there is a politician in Washington.
9/11 is a TRAGEDY???
A hurricane is a tragedy…. 9/11 was a fucking act of WAR you dipshit
Talk about a spending freeze, which morphs into increases that aren’t what people would expect (which is inevitably spun as a cut when that happens, of course).
“A lot of you remember the tragedy of 9/11”. Jesus. How did this hack make it out of Chicago?
Alot of you?
How’s about maybe ALL?
“Alot of you remember the tragedy of 911.”
No shit. Thank you Obama Christ Superstar. He SHOULD be president.
Please somebody drop a house on his head.
McCain seems old. Obama still says the “tragedy” of 9-11 (no one’s fault, of course!)
When’s the you’betc’cha chick gonna jiggle her tits and wink at the camera?
Obama’s not even answering the goddamn question.
Once again, this looks a lot better than it sounds on the radio.
Store nuclear energy?
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one outraged by that statement. I agree with Darleen and that should be McCain’s comeback.
Use em or lose em. Only the chosen one could rhyme while spitting knowledge. Get rid of Biden, put Puffy on the ticket as VP.
Clock time in these debates needs to be done like in chess matches.
Oh here comes the corps call from Obama, the energy corps, the anti-oil corps, the anti-coal corps, the begger thy neighbor corps
F@@kin. liar O! Save this energy cocksucker
Did O! just suggest auto tariffs?
B Moe
How will my twins even know freedom when all the opposition is shut down by O/P/R?
My parents were kids during the Great Depression… I don’t want them to die during the 2nd one.
I’m going to ask you to check your tire pressure.
The O! Corps!
I am 50 years old with a shitty job and virtually no savings, Darleen. If I voted strictly in my own best interest for the next twenty years, I would be voting Obama and getting on the gravy train. I have nieces and nephews I am thinking about, I know I am going to be working for a living until I die.
Brokaw keeps complaining about time deficits. Is he the moderator, or not?
Must take your money, for your own good of course.
The market’s already breaking those bad habits. Consumer debt shrank for the 1st time in ten years last month. Loans are gettng harder and harder to get. Not abnormally hard, just normal. Of course, spending was so fucked for the past 10 years that no one remembers what real loans look like.
he said “18 billion dollars” as if that’s chump change
Yes, Ana. Like the ONE that is bankrupting us: Welfare.
Fuel efficient cars, weatherizing homes…. Whaaaa?
That’s Social Security. Sorry.
I blame the beer.
And class warfare creeps into the room
I hope McCain says people are just trying to get ahead, the problem is subprime loans.
There will be no offshore drilling with Obama and a Democrat congress. Why does this fuck need to lie?
Nailing Jello to the wall!
fully one quarter of the population pays no income tax, where is their input?
Can we pick which “corps” we wish to join? I’d like “stripper corps”- I try to talk those woman in better less demeaning jobs.
ooo jello to the wall. that one was pretty good.
“nailing jello to the wall”
Well Darleen, when you add up 18b here and 18b there it starts to add up to reeal money.
BUT NOT UNTIL THEN.
I hate this class warfare shit. As my grandmother used to say – “Don’t count other people’s money!”
Obama – unfair burden sharing. Love that phrase. That means that HE gets to decide who deserves to have what. You work hard and make a good income? Obama will take it from you to “fairly” spread the burden!
Nice shot re: protectionism. That hasn’t been hit enough. I’d like it pointed out that even The One can’t give a tax break to “95% of Americans” when 95% of us don’t pay taxes.
heh did Mccain actually throw a hook ? Or does he just look pissed ?
Small businesses. There we go. 50% increases.
“I got news for you Senator Obama, the news is bad”
haha…tom’s trying to maintain order.
Shank there’s a commandment for it: Thou shalt not covet.
Different rules for The One! HE MUST RESPOND!
Somebody send McCain some hemorrhoid ointment. He seems grumpier than usual.
Every American a $5000 tax credit? Even the 50% that don’t pay taxes?
Dang Brokaw lays down the law on whiny boy.
Nah, that wouldn’t work, B Moe. You seen yourself lately? You’re pretty pasty, my friend. And from the South.
Tom CUT HIM OFF!
“Tom, I’m going to need to ask you to bend/break the rules for me”
Its like Neo in the Matrix. Some rules can be bent. Others can be broken (for the One).
Brokaw’s taking longer just to ask the freakin’ question.
THANK YOU, Tom for not allowing Obama to go back to the tax thing
someone send him a fruit basket
Can you imagine someone like Obama in charge of entitlements? Hahahaha, hoooooly shit.
OH FUCK OBAMA IS WEASELING BACK
and it’s the 95% FUCKING LIE AGAIN
Social Security and Medicare.
Obama: I can’t guarantee we’ll do it in the first two years and other tax policies have to be rape the rich first.
Straight talk express lost a wheel?
fell flat.
LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE
Obama has NO clue about small businesses and HE DOESN’T CARE
Entitlement programs eating up all our federal revenues. Obama says we can’t solve entitlements unless we TAX THE RICH! Does he not know that taxing the rich always, always ends up taxing the middle class?
Obama = EAT THE RICH
Fair? FAIR!?
Dude. Didn’t your parents ever tell you life’s not fair?
I love watching peoples eyes glaze over when Obama stutters numbers.
FOR TEH FAIRNESS!
Is Obama a friggin’ mind reader? Is he not just saying McCain is going to do something McCain just said he wasn’t going to do?
Obama can’t pull off “glib.”
Articulate, yes. Glib, no.
I feel like I’m racist when I say that though =x
My friends, My friends, My friends. Stop it already Sen. McCain.
My friends.
McCain – don’t bring up the record. That’s rascist.
Old habits die hard, Vlad.
Another Obama supporter
Ingrid Jackson wants to know why we are killing the planet.
Are we only going to have questions on the economy?
Any adult that uses the word fair when applying to anything other than law or sports desereves to be smacked in the face.
Damn Aged Planet!
Gah. Climate change and green jobs. You want green? Shovel bullshit, plenty of it about to hit here.
Green jobs ??
BUSH ! drink !! wait, does it count if McCain says Bush ?
OK… NUKE POWER! Yes
My friends. Sen. McCain needs to take a break with that for at least one round.
I’ll put up with green talk if it gets us to NUKE POWER
Well if the FRENCH do it….
datadave’s drunk 30 mins in. If my candidate was Obama, I’d be drunk by now too.
Someone send Grumps McCain a blender and a straw so he can eat his words without choking.
Nukes Now!
5 million new green jobs? Horseshit.
Obama “new energy”
What is it, Barry? The computer wasn’t invented in ten years, dipshit.
Government is always the answer to every question. Gack
Finally the camera gives equal time to the back of Obama’s head too.
Yes lets waste our money on wind power instead of building nuclear plants. Good call. Money well spent.
Investments?
Don’t make me laugh.
This debate is going nowhere for some reason. They seem to be going in circles.
Wind, solar, geothermal. Is he T-Bone Pickens???? I thought he was an old white guy.
Oh good. They’re going to try and out Kyoto each other.
I think Obama just dissed the Homebrew Computer Club.
Why would you vote against alternative fuels mean ol’ John? I mean – they’re “alternative”. It’s like change! Change fuel!
Obama backing away from oil drilling
schmuck
SAY IT TOM!
I love how they say that McCain voted against alternative energy. Doesn’t that just mean he voted against my money being used to fund a fuckin wind far??
This debate and this campaign is like the Iraq/Iran war. It is too bad they both can’t lose. What mealy mouthed, ignorant assholes they both are. McCain lost it tonight and we will suffer the disaster of an Obama administration. Two false giants, surrounded by real dwarfs!
Magic dust!
One coal-powered plant a week? What are they, scal models Barack?
3% using 25% so drilling won’t work. What a bunch of shit. Obama you suck at math.
manhattan project vs silicon valley??
“should we fund?”
No.
The One is stumbling when he’s trying to spew stats.
What kind of retarded question was that. I’d have to ask him to repeat the question in a language less drunk.
Government government government we fund we fund we fund Gack fucking gack
Obamzilla versus King ‘Cain.
Oh, no. There goes Kyoto….
WTF IS THIS QUESTION?????????????????
“That one” = racism
You’re not worthy of laughter.
I don’t know if I can do this… Sarah Palin made the best case for energy independence the other day…
Drill here, drill now. You frigging bet it will make the price go down.
Government is ruinous, it is not that complicated a concept.
I hate these things.
Obama thinks health care is a right.
Oh, a healthcaare question. Watch this, Obama HATES healthcare orgs.
Do you believe healthcare should be treated as a commodity? Are you kidding me?
John McCain sounds like an old-time southern politician: ” My friends, and YOU ARE my friends.” I think I’m going to be sick. The hell with the rest of the “debate”, I’m going to drink!
Health Care as a commodity? Gosh, that’s a question with a bit of conservative bent to it…
Oh come on, Barry, is health care a “right” or not?
c’mon Obama, just say it.
Socialized medicine. It’s what she wants to hear.
Is a service a commodity?
Pink–they have the questions printed at the bottom of the screen on C-Span.
If McCain loses we are looking at Obama’s plans to spend all our money on magic fairy dust and shitty health care. YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Government run healthcare would RUIN healthcare. I’ve been watching government do that to healthcare my whole career with state-run programs. gaaaaaaaaaaaaa…
Obama possesses the magic wand of the unlimited budget to buy everyone with his magical solutions to everything.
uh…when was the last time Barry was in a hospital… THEY ARE ON COMPUTERS
Tricare for everyone! You civilians are in for a TREAT!
Commodity? Yes! Same for everyone! I want to stand in line for years waiting for the collectivist commodity of health care to take care of me! Specialists? We don’t need no stinking specialists. It’s all the same thing, health care is easy!
How does putting my health record on a computer save money?? How?
RTO it was a rhetorical question. I do not see the value of asking a question “Do you agree that we need to get rid of oil, or do we need to get rid of oil now”
Heh, I used to work for the Indian Health Service. No health and no service.
shutup thor
The employer based healthcare system SUCKS because if artificially interfers with the market.
Obama will have the government force insurance companies to cover despite pre-existing conditions? And he expects to reduce costs? Is he insane?
Fuck Tom Brokaw.
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Pitiful, just pitiful.
Like I’ve pointed out before, thor is so stupid he can even come up with an original insult.
But then he’s an Obama supporter.
What do you expect?
I’ve worked at a VA hospital too. The VA is the Mayo clinics compared to the IHS.
Because nationalized healthcare has worked SO great in Canada. They just fucking love that shit, don’t they?
Oh yeah RTO FUCK TRICARE TOO.
Oh let’s do “impose” efficiencies, by all means!
Achtung, chucko, step out of that line there.
Tom’s NOT WAVING!
I think we need a government clearing house for healthcare, we can call it Franky Doc.
CHOICE
Was that a dig at “Plugs” Biden ? Cause if so, it was well done. =0
Just TRI to get CARE.
tom complains in 3…2…
right, privilege or responsibility
wtf?
How does putting my health record on a computer save money?? How?
They don’t have to buy a filing cabinet. D’uh.
There we go. Its a right.
/waves socialism.
Obama will fine you.
Republicans are the carrot, dems the whip.
We are the sorry jackasses sloughing those bloated fucks around.
Obama…. “health care is a RIGHT for every American”
Yep…. communist right there
He said it, you have the right to the service of others.
Helathcare is a right, eh?
NOT.
a “RIGHT”? goodbye my old friend…no need for a Constitution amymore
Was that a made up story there about mom?
It sounded like the crowd gasped when he answered the question that way. Was it my imagination ?
Wonder if that thing about his mother is true. I’ve got “Dreams of My Father” about 10 feet away over on the coffee table but trying to slog through that self-congratulatory mess makes me dream of bottles.
The Second Amendment is a right. Is Obama gonna fund my firearms needs? Cause it’s pretty damn extensive.
It’d be nice if Obama would catch on fire when he lies.
WTF WE HAVE A NEW RIGHT NOW?????? I can’t watch this shit it is giving me a fuckin headache.
oooooo oooo
SChip!
Voted for the expansion of children’s heathcare to people other than children. Yeah.
It’s not the government’s right to interfere with healthcare. Butt out.
I’m wiht ThomasD.
His mom did die of cancer, I’m not sure of the circumstances
Yep, RTO, he’s a slick one that BHO
There’s a kid in the front row, wearing a black/white/grey striped ties and glasses. He looks bored out of his fucking mind. Looks like he’s got a question card in his hand. They’re going ot have to wake his ass up if they want him to ask it.
Obama
“I am you Nanny Superior”
Delaware! I’m Joe Biden and I deregulated that message.
MC–Ka-boom.
“They go to DELAWARE”
Peacemaker? Are we on guns already?
“did we find out about the fine?”
I’m confused about which Article of the Constitution indicates health care is a right.
Article O ?? WTF. But Obama is going to cut our taxes. My god he’s got balls to just lie like that.
Act as a “peacemaker” ?
Tell me that guy isn’t a Kucinich supporter.
Isn’t universal health care in the bill of rights? No? Who’d a thunk it…
You make Peace by making deserts.
Thanks RTO, I need a Ma Deuce.
It’s for my mental wellbeing, you see.
Actually I think peacemaker is a term of art in this context, and a reasonable one at that.
YES…. we have to pick and choose our fights abroad…
Ok, so far? from the gallery, I’ve seen teh gay, teh black (yes I denounce myself) and teh stoopid. Plants?
He should have pulled out the line from Serenity “If you can’t do something smart, do something right…”
No response to our new right by McCain???
Fucking Senators. Blah-blah-blah.
That guy over in the other seat is your enemy, not your buddy. Call him out. Point at him and say what a corrupt bastard he is. Show some life, some fire.
Be a DA doing his closing in a serial killer case. That guy in that seat is Manson, fork him.
you don’t understand because you’re ignorant. There weren’t AQ camps in Iraq? dumbass.
He was really good on that Peacemaker question. Now Obama is whining.
Watch Obama not answer the question. Brokaw asked about the economic constraints on military strategy. Obama doesn’t know jack SHIT about that.
Obama just admitted he doesn’t understand.
“how we invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11″…but I thought 9/11 was a tragedy. You know, like a lighning strike or cancer.
Oh fuck… “Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11”
Yes, Barry, tell us how much better the world would be with Saddam and his evil spawn still in power.
McC must respond to this pile of shit about the Iraq theater.
mention the Ferris Wheel! please!
Here we go again. Anyone who doesn’t understand Iraq sure as hell doesn’t need to be in the White House. This fucking election is driving me schizoid.
I am still confused. Who gets to make up these new rights? I want the right to punch politicians I disagree with in the face. Someone give me that.
So obama jus said he would pay for all his programs by cutting the defense budget. Duly noted.
Uh, is this idiot not familiar with the Depression and WWII?
Nah, let that 9/11 – Iraq crap pass. There are no minds to be changed on that subject.
BUSH!! Shots all around!
thor? I’m sorry I didabled trollhammer for tonight. My previous offer stsnds
Or pick and chose which broads we fight….
Don’t tell us how the war is busting the budget. Prescription drug program, medicare, medicaid, and social security are busting the frigging budget Senator Right-to-Healthcare.
Obama Doctrine use of force…… BWHAHAHAHAH
Oooooh. There’s a decent-lookin blonde sitting in the top row behind brokaw. Nice skirt-suit, RAWR.
How about the new right to a 12 pack in every fridge. Fuck the chicken and the pot it came in.
oh bs Obama we know you can be everywhere at all times.
Barry Doctrine… as long as we go somewhere where it will NEVER HELP America, that would be ok
Blithering.
Pablo? this idiot has already said he’d do a line item veto AND thet healthcare is a right…No, he doesn’t understand
God damn it. What a pussy McC is not defending the decision to get Saddam.
Where is that mean old man that’s supposed to be John McCain? Bring the heat, Grandpa!
We can use troops to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide but not when Saddam Hussein is killing his people. These fine distinctions….
“Temper decisions with the ability to beneficially affect the situation”
I wonder if O! has ever glanced at a map of Darfur?
Dude. They should of just had a dunk contest. This is not very interesting fellas, take the gloves off.
*How about the new right to a 12 pack in every fridge.*
Now THAT’S change we can believe in.
Katie has no clue that hot pursuit is part of international law.
Barry is saying Paw-KEE-stawn again
Iraq =Pakeestan
Again. and again and again. McC simply has given away the game.
*sigh* because AQ wasn’t leaving A-stan to go to Iraq…. Saddam wouldn’t have put up with that crap. except for Zarkawi.
pock-ee-stahn.
Barry…. let’s surrender in Iraq so we can then surrender in Afghanistan
Oh fuck… “Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11″
It had everything to do with the invasion of Afghanistan.
We should have invaded Pakistan. Or perhaps not, since bin Ladin was sipping tea in Kabul when we went into Iraq in 2003.
History a la Lewis Carroll.
Osama is a red herring. Obama is just a Red.
We can’t coddle a dictator like we did? What the fuck is Obama talking about?
we can’t give Pakistan money, but we need to give them money for peacekeeping…
Alright McCain. Make it count here buddy…
Al Queda is stronger than anytime since 2001? Ok, I guess he’s talking about the virgins, ‘cus we keep killing them in droves…
Either there was a viable strategy at the beginning of the war or there was not. If we were pursuing the right strategy then it must be defended. If not, McC validates Obama’s prewar idiocy.
Let them go, Tom. Jesus.
Obama wants the last word… bitch
Jesus Christ. no one is controlling the discussion here. WTF is going on?
Tom’s doing a great job – because he let’s Obama do what he wants…
Brokaw bends to Obama’s will.
Big surprise there.
I didn’t say I’d invade Pakistan, but I will if we need to.
Baracky said boots on the ground. Baracky is lying.
We need to go into Pakistan without invading, I think you can do that if you are riding on unicorns.
That’s wet behind the ears, Barry, and yes, you are.
Green behind the ears. I like this.
This is like watching an old married couple go tit for tat on all the little things that the other has done over the years that got under their skin. LOL. American politicians.
McCain is too soft in the head to lead this country.
Johnnie just got pantsed!
Clue to Barry… Pakistan is an ally and IRAN and NORTH KOREA ARE ENEMIES!! You CAN joke about bombing them, bastard!
He said it again, Musharref was a dictator. Jesus McCain, will you kick his fucking punk ass?
And killing him would end the WOT? hell yes!!! all those folks would just give up and go home
Yeah, and I have a great sub-prime loan for you.
Hrm McCain just negotiated himself a free comeback. That was clever.
Did the One just say “bomb bomb Iran”. The mind boggles.
See, that’s the Obama Doctrine. Rapidly haul a carcass out of a cave in the Tribal Areas, declare it Obama’s morla remians and announce winning the GWOT followed by rapid withdrawl to Fortress America, where the military will be cut off at the knees so it can’t be “misused” again.
Everybody WINS!
Not going to telegraph my punches. Thank you.
This is what happens when there’s no conservative candidate on the ticket. Can’t we do these things like duels? McCain could name Fred Thompson as his second, then fake a hamstring pull.
Saving that, turn out the lights, the party’s over.
Pakistan is a friend=don’t threaten
Iran is an enemy=threaten vigorously.
No comparison.
Obama is green.
I want to put on the record, I would be pro-unicorns for our troops. With magical horns. And balloon fences, if the technology is there.
Tahleebahn.
Yeah I have to agree Jeff. The minute the Republican on the ticket lets slide that we have a new right just because a Democrat says so the game is over.
I really had little idea what an arrogant liar O! was until tonite. How did we end up running this preener for POTUS?
Doing what exactly? How many troops? What kind? Where? Show what a fucking idiot he is, John!
Oh great, Obama just told the Taliban US forces are “desperate”.
Oh. Karzai is now just as irresponsible and out of touch as the Democrats have been accusing the Iraqis of being for the last three years.
Way to make us more respected.
Laser-guided Unicorns ridden by care bears armored in HAPPYJOY and throwing CUDDLE GRENADES.
Jeff, I’d favor some fisticuffs right now. Both of them would look better with shiners for the rest of the debate…
And we ran him against McCain, no less.
The Perfect Storm.
What I wouldn’t do for a President Hillary about now.
I don’t know, Jeff, I’m more impressed with McCain than I expected. O! has him on youth, height, color, and well, those three things.
I tried!
I suspect Hillary is damn happy to be out of it at this point.
Putin…. he’s like Obama!
Fuck it. Palin in 2012. Four years of Obama hiding under the desk fondling himself and Palin could win in a landslide.
I just don’t think Obama/Pelosi/Reid is competent enough to do any real damage.
Wish he’d stop pulling out that quote. “KGB”. Is that maybe an attempt to appeal to the folks who were politically aware during the cold war ?
Naked aggression is awesome. It has held my marriage together over the years.
How did we end up running this preener for POTUS?
Alinsky, Ayers, Daley, Rezko, Soros
Obama is their student and their boy.
O!’s grasp on international affairs is nonexistent. McCain understands strong diplomacy and the Russian Bear. Easy freaking choice.
Unless you’re pandering to teenagers about green policy and free medical “care”.
Can you talk about the economic weakness in Russia, John? Oh, fail, too late.
Still no A-bombs yet…But there’s still time…
Mav’s been a lot tougher, but O! has gotten away with some smooooooooth lies…
*What I wouldn’t do for a President Hillary about now.*
Jesus wtf.
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
B Moe
Barry is the bastard child of Jimmy Carter and LBJ
Drop the bomb, Mav, Drop the bomb…
Obama: We gotta give money to foreign governments! Us: Where’s it going to some from O? Obama: Your damn pocket, you whacked out capitalist.
Pocky-stan.
Mmmm, Pocky.
I was downstairs long enough to listen to the health care smarm and wanted to rip O’s face off. OLOLOL LET’S OVERSEE HEALTH CARE MORE BECAUSE THAT WILL FIX IT
No, you retard, that’s why people can’t get the coverage they need because litigation and gov’t “oversight” has been forcing cost-cutting and CYA policies.
I just don’t think Obama/Pelosi/Reid is competent enough to do any real damage.
Oh don’t be so sure. Cruise control is not an autopilot.
Alinsky, Ayers, Daley, Rezko, Soros
Oh, damn. I almost forgot about those guys.
Fuck you, McCain.
Financial assistance for Estonia. Did he just say that? Because I’m already paying for some fat bastards right to healthcare and geothermal energy….
If I didn’t know better I’d swear I’m watching the US Senate debate some utterly inane bill.
Don’t talk about the bill, how your version is better.
Your opponents jugular is exposed for a second, stick the knife in and twist.
Darleen? ‘WE” didn’t they did. they ,eaning the last 40 years of attempting to bring socialism onto our shores.
Hello, earth to Barry… there hasn’t been another “9/11 tragedy” on American soil.
Accusing Mav of not being worried about catching Bin Laden…
Drop the bomb, Mav, Drop the Bomb…
And…I’ll second myself on O!’s arrogance. And windiness. Chicago boy much?
What a fart in the ozone. Poseur. Preener. Waves his little hands a lot. So pretty too.
I say elect the guy.
meaning. Sorry, cat on or near keyboard
I put out a statement that if Obama is elected President we’re in for a great deal of otherwise avoidable trouble.
Oh good, there it is again and again and again, the McC fail to defend the overarching strategy we embarked on.
Evil Empire question.
What. Is. That?
Russia=more eeeeeeevil than the RethugliKKKans!!11!!eleventy!1!11!
If unicorns aren’t available, how about this?
Get this guys name
Well, the O! may think that the RethugliKKKans are more eeeeeeeevil
Russia evil? Maybe?
That was the jugular, gone now.
oh wow israel. Chief petty officer.
Wonder if Obama has a global test moment coming up ?
Defend Israel! Whoa! Excellent question… Get ’em Mac
And every time I hear him say Taliban I think “come mister taleehbahn, tally me banana.”
Yeah, I wanna go home pretty bad. sane government plz.
Experienced NCO’s are the shit.
Ok… McCain will NOT wait on the UN Security council
Barry…?
Ayers. Just say it. Someone say Ayers.
A Putin/Obama dialog would at least be able to begin with a fundamental agreement: “The US is the problem.”
And…McCain just lobbed a slow outside pitch about something this child sharing the stage with him can’t even begin to hit: Israel’s security, the WWIII Question.
Knife. In. Twist. Do it, John.
LBJ had turds smarter than Obama. He also had some serious politicians backing him in Congress.
“League of Democracies”
OMG!! Yes!
Without precondition. A matter of record.
Well thank you.
The guy standing next to the Navy ret. looks like he could be his brother…. whoa.
O! can do nothing here but agree with McCain. Poseur. Liar.
Ruh-Roh…Iran is on the table…Here we go with O! meeting with Dinner-Jacket, unconditionally…
Mav imply’s that hell nuke Iran if they strike Israel
cough cough…I’m choking on my answer.
Barry O
If unicorns aren’t available, how about this?
That looks more like what you been bombing civilians with.
Didn’t you mean to say our only ally in the world there, Barry?
Barry is twisting
Did he just say “game changer”
Sir, this is not a game.
No need to imply anything. It is the stated policy of the US to nuke anyone who nukes an ally.
Oh… alternative energy is going to keep Iran from attacking Israel
rrriiiiiiiiiiggghhhhttt
O! is sounding tough, but starting to equivocate about relying on sanctions…
Like they’ve worked over the last 8 years
Cause nobody but us buys oil from Iran. Goddamit McCain will you rub this puppies nose in this shit?
Energy consumption? It all boils down to energy consumption? You fucking TWIT. The question was about an immediate escalation. Not how do you prevent it. How would you react if this happened Jan 2?? Jesus.
“There will be consequences”
NO SOUP FOR YOU
Is Obama teaching 2nd graders?
He sounds like it.
Rejoin the community of nations. Yeah. That’s what they want. Very motivating.
Obama has no clue how to handle immediate world crises.
You’re kidding. No Bill Ayres questions at all ? Oh yeah, nobody wants to hear the One address that issue ?
Oh for God’s sake, we are fucked.
So as long as we have electric cars, No one will buy Iran’s oil…
In the same universe as Ayers being a great American
Surely he feels he is, lee…
Ummm…it’s my understanding that thr NOKOs did that during the Clinto admin. Am I wrong?
What don’t you know, Obama? Watch this anti-answer. Should be fun.
Obama thinks he being self deprecating with the Michelle crap. He’s not, he calling his wife a harpy.
He has no idea how many husbands that pisses off.
What don’t you know and how will you learn it.
Thank you for stupid shit, Tom.
Gaack! Obama is such a joke!
At least we can rely on his utter dependence on Michelle…
He’s telling us what he knows. Thanks for the answer Obambi. Are you even in the same debate? Or are you just answering questions that you make up as you go?
He’s ad libbing and drowning in a sea of weeping. Food stampss !!!
Fuck You Affirmative Action Asshole
A single Mom, and a bank VP for my racist Granny that raised me…in Hawaii…
Please Mav, Drop the Bomb!
Ah, O!’s socialism is personal. Now everything falls into place. Yeah, screwed doesn’t begin to describe it.
Is Obama teaching 2nd graders?
He sounds like it.
That is his base, thanks to Ayers education reforms. Have you not noticed the level the trolls communicate?
Obama’s mama was getting food stamps and welfare so she could go to graduate school
SOME ONE ELSE WAS PAYING FOR BAMA MAMAs post grad education…and he’s NOT ashamed?
Run us down Barry, finish where you started.
Are we gonna pass on the American Dream???
Which one is that, Chicago, or the real America…
What do we expect with such a soft-serve question. That’s the last one of the debate? FU Brokaw…
What same dream? The American Food Stamp and Right of Healthcare Extraordinary Journey Dream???
Bullshit, John. I am still way better off than I was under Ford and Carter.
Obama finished weak. McCain is finishing strong. That’s gonna stay with people.
At least McCain is answering the question on what he doesn’t know. Obama just stood up there and riffed himself down the rabbit hole of irrelevance.
Boom. John busts the final answer. O! is a child.
Fixed. The whole fucking thing was fixed towards His Lordship. No questions about his past, no questions about just HOW the hell he’ll do whatever the bloody hell he says he woill.
So, I guess it’s Unicorns and Lollipops for all!!
Schrummian bloviation folks, been hearing it for years.
And FWIW, McCain’s telling the truth. In society, on wall street; as pessimism and acrimony take hold, the only things we have are each other. Ask anyone who survived and raised a family during the Depression.
Should have finished with “and I have no idea at all, ever, what Senator Obama ever thought he was doing hanging out with that fucking terrorist, William Ayers. Thank you.”
McCain was always the wrong choice. Like I’ve said all along, I’ve never really had a candidate in this election. The Palin pick gave me hope, but in the end, McCain is McCain.
There’s a reason he’s never been President.
yeah, he has a tendency to do that. you can sometimes see the “where was I?” look in his eyes.
Good that McCain finished last – he did that very well…
it’s Unicorns and Lollipops
And Basselopes.
He’s the Entitled One, Darleen. Ask not what you can do for your country; it’s what’s for breakfast for the next four…
No fissile material…Some conventional hits, and on target no less; still, no nukes…
I’m kinda dissapointed, but I still think Mav did well…
The MSM picked him Jeff, NOT us
RTO- I would’ve snorted my beer through my nose is McCain said that. LOL
I think team McCain might want a little more public exposure for Ayres before he hits Obama with it. The next debate on the 15th, everyone will have heard of him.
I hope.
Nope, that’s a major fail for McCain in my view. He doesn’t get it, he hasn’t gotten it, he shows no signs of picking it up in the future. Bummer.
In fairness, Jeff, he’s only tried for President once before. His whole gerenation’s got a problem though–not one of them mounted a serious campaign until the WWII vets were done.
OH SHIT. First commercial after the debate??? Obama ad.
Stong close for McCain. I’m wondering if he, or an adviser read this recently
http://tinyurl.com/53z4bs
What channel, shank?
Pablum for the masses. Palin in the trenches. Still have to force the press to address the issues.
We have to force a different debate for the next one. That’s a constructive effort.
JeffG
McCain was the “sane” pick according to the MSM … they built him up to knock him down. That’s why they are freaked about Palin..she was the wild card.
The Left is adament about marginalizing and neutralizing anything right of center. They want power, exclusively, and they want no challengers.
I realize he only tried once before. But he did so at what he thought was “his turn.” That tells me something right there.
I’m trying to imagine Thompson debating Obama. It makes me hard, thinking about it.
Hell, I’d do it, but my favorables would dry up the first time I called Obama “Bill Ayers’ own personal Senator Bojangles.”
FOX, if you believe that. I’m in NC too, and we’ve been getting absolutely bombarded with Obama ads for the psat few weeks. I haven’t seen but maybe 1 McCain add, and another by a budget watchdog on Obama’s ties to Fannie/Freddie.
Jeff,
I’ve said for years that my gut tells me that Mav would never be POTUS. I’ve prayed this entire cycle that I was wrong all along. I still do.
Mav had a good finish, and Palin is exciting and stimulates the electorate, so I’m still praying that I’m wrong…
No, I think those dials would go right off the charts!
I’m still stunned by the buy up all the failed mortgages ploy.
I mean, I know it’s bullshit. But does McCain know it’s bullshit?
We’re looking at Iran with nukes and financial implosion and Obama is taking about Peace Corps. There will be enough voting against The One.
Yeah, I agree.
But don’t sell yourself short, Jeff. The electorate might find that kind of “straight talk” and candor refreshing.
Wait, the thought of Fred Thompson and Barack going at it makes you hard? Dude, that’s not politics, that’s teh ghey.
Mmmm, Bojangles… Now I’m hungry for biscuits and dirty rice.
what is Luntz’s focus group smoking? They found that interesting?
shank
O is outspending 3 to 1 McCain on tv ads… and really, its not affecting his numbers that much.
TV ads for politicals aren’t having the effect they used to.
Health Care is a RIGHT! That’s what the focus groups caught…
Oh well. If McCain can’t be a bastard, I can spend the next few weeks being one.
Not that it’ll matter: clearly, McCain isn’t going to do what it takes to unmask this dangerous fraud, and unfortunately, I’m not very widely read. Hell, I barely get linked by big sites on the right.
Still, for my own personal satisfaction, I’m going to torch this socialist poser.
Jeff – FWIW, I forward lots of your links on Alinsky/Obama/etc to friends and fam.
Somebody keep a record of it. For my son. After I’m executed.
I couldn’t be happier to hear that Jeff @ 503. I think you have a much wider reach than you think… God bless you for your torch. Let it burn baby! BURN!!!
I’m watching this Fox panel and they’re talking about how clear Obama was but can’t actually tell us what his policy was.
And people’s opinions spiked when Obama said healthcare is a right ? People who do not at least some level of understanding as to how the Constitution and this Country works should not be voting. I mean, come on. Where in the Constitution is it a right. No no, tell me, I must know.
The campaign is waiting for the right time. October surprise or whatever… let things percolate and then hit the public with the big stuff. Blow your was to early and it becomes last week’s news. Wait too long and people will be confused.
There’s one thing I really, really like about John McCain. He’s not Barack Obama.
Because of the SC Justices.
McCain was the “sane†pick according to the MSM … they built him up to knock him down. That’s why they are freaked about Palin..she was the wild card.
The Left is adament about marginalizing and neutralizing anything right of center. They want power, exclusively, and they want no challengers.
And that is what they are getting with McCain.
I’m still stunned by the buy up all the failed mortgages ploy.
I mean, I know it’s bullshit. But does McCain know it’s bullshit?
I think he is serious, and it will be worse if he gets in there. He wants to cut off legislative earmarks so he has more money to give away. The only people who should really give a shit about this election are foreigners, because other than foreign policy I don’t see much difference between these two.
Still, for my own personal satisfaction, I’m going to torch this socialist poser.
Good Allah, thank you.
Frank Luntz on fox is shocked, Shocked!, that voters in Arlington Va. are favoring Obama…
As one who lived and worked in DC for many years, doesn’t Frank realize that most government bureaucrats are liberals!
Nuclear plants cost 11 billion a pop. Not counting cost overruns…and the government will be in charge of building them. Using some 15 terawatts per year, America needs to build one helluva lot of nuclear plants to take up the slack. McCain only wants to build 45 of them. …using 1970’s-style nuclear technologies…but first, we gotta educate and train the people who are going to run them. At the moment, America doesn’t have enough educated and trained people to be able to operate and maintain 45 nuclear plants, let alone enough to operate several hundred of those plants. (What? We’re gonna spend a couple of trillion dollars on nuclear plants during an economic depression?)
That’s another pisspot full of money coming out your pockets via taxes and utility bills. …at 11 billion bucks apiece.
Geezus, people. Do some friggin’ research, will ya? (And don’t act like a liberal and cherry-pick the facts to support your own position.)
/grin.
…some people’s kids. I’m a tellin’ ya…
We can build nuclear, but we also need to use clean coal, geo-thermal, wind and photovoltaic, and buy some ‘neighborhood’-sized hydrogen plants from Japan. They went into production this year. (American has a helluva lot of coal, we’re only surpassed by the Aussies in that commodity.)
With Health Care, I wish McCain would point out that a) forcing businesses to carry it IS a tax, and b) we all pay for it in higher costs in goods and services.
If they make healthcare a right, you’ll still have to decide between healthcare and food. Instead of deciding where to put your dollars though, you’ll have to decide which line you want to stand in for the next few days.
He’s his own personal bojangles
He jumped so high, he jumped so high
People who do not at least some level of understanding as to how the Constitution and this Country works should not be voting. I mean, come on. Where in the Constitution is it a right. No no, tell me, I must know.
Public education. A right is something sweet and nice that only government can give you.
Gun ownership? Not an individual right. Health care? A right.
And of course, the Supreme Court gives too much credence to the Constitution, and doesn’t worry enough about social justice.
This is your basic Obama voter. Ayers and the New Left won. It just took them 40 years to come up with the right set of circumstances under which to go in for the death blow.
I’ve never been a McCain fan, but to be honest, I think he has a better chance against Obama than any of the other Primary candidates.
If it was Hillary, no. But the One? In the state the country is in now? McCain is the best chance.
Most people don’t understand economics (like John McCain, for instance) so they can easily be fooled by the slick talk of the likes of Barry Obama (who also does not understand economics), sad to say.
When it comes to war and strategy, almost nobody understands what’s involved, but almost everybody will happily climb onboard the train as it gets rolling and then just as happily climb off when it suits them, without a care in the world as to the longterm damage they may do to the nation and it’s allies. McCain does understand these things, but chooses, for a reason I cannot understand, not to explain them. And for that, just, damn him, that’s all, damn him the bastard.
I think the vast majority of us agree McCain was not a good choice. I’m not excited about him as POTUS. But we have two choices and one is a socialist.
Barry is saying Paw-KEE-stawn again
And yet you’ll notice that he says AfghaniSTAN, not Awf-gon-ee-stawn.
Fuckin’ poseur.
I’m glad I’m sick and had an excuse to sleep through it, judging by the comments.
There’s one thing I really, really like about John McCain. He’s not Barack Obama.
Because of the SC Justices.
Yeah, one of the gang of fourteen is going to get tough and push around a confirmation hearing. Sorry Pabs, I ain’t seeing it. He is going to be a sweet old dottering grandpa like he has been in these debates and the Senate will tell him who is going to get a seat.
Gun ownership? Not an individual right. Health care? A right.
Jeff you are not looking at it from their perspective. Sure, they’ll tell you both are a right. And then they’ll tell you exactly what that right entails, and you’ll get nothing more and like it.
Yes, don’t forget that the American electorate has an attention span of about three days. It’s going to be an exciting November.
First the S&P has to hit break 900…pretty much more wild ride next couple of weeks…
People, if you don’t own firearms yet, get your handgun permits in now.
Warren: Private reactors are in the pipe.
Stop it. The New Left didn’t win. There’s always Australia.
I’ve never been a McCain fan, but to be honest, I think he has a better chance against Obama than any of the other Primary candidates.
If it was Hillary, no. But the One? In the state the country is in now? McCain is the best chance.
Fred Thompson would have left Obama a quivering fucking mass on the debate stage floor. Unfortunately the media declared him unserious and the fucking sheep bought it.
Again NPR gets Matthew Cuntinetti from The Weekly Standard to make the case for Obama. Useless. But McCain did fine I think. He’s putting his eggs in the reach across the aisle basket, so he’s gonna keep away from the snarly I think. On balance I think it’s smart enough. Baracky’s in trouble. He’s invested big in casting McCain as the incumbent, but his skimpy margin in the polls isn’t near what you need in a race framed like that I don’t think.
Biggest disappointment for me was that when they talked about entitlements McCain didn’t point to the Democrats’ rosy assessments of Social Security and refusal to engage on reform.
…Has anyone commented on McCain’s half-assed swipe about Biden’s hairdo? Thought not. It was a crap debate.
Warren
who said using 70’s nuke technology? France gets, what, 70+ % of their electrical energy from nukes, reusing the rods over and over again until the “waste” is so small as to be almost insignificant?
Australia is a myth, Ana. They are way farther down the road than we are. Unless you really dig being self sufficient in the outback.
Oh. Australia would be the shit.
But I do have this thing about ditching my country just because one front man backed by a political megamachine and the entirety of our press corps got elected. I seriously thought about leaving if he got elected, but that seems too much like quitting. It would be more fulfilling to fight the good fight.
Debate = yawnfest
Now Jeff promising to torch O! over the next four weeks – you can’t afford that kind of entertainment!
Cynn- read up. I did. Thought it was pretty clever to slide it in there. But PROVE that’s what he meant.
The debate was a total snoozer. They should have gogo dancers next time.
@ 533
I was going to echo that, and it would mean, at first, licensing their knowledge and experience. But we are looking long term, and have to think wbout all this in steps; now, later, and future.
One thing about this week… McCain and Palin are attacking during their appearances and THAT is getting press coverage.
I wish I knew the numbers between what people will see in the news cycle vs how many turn in to the debates
Darleen, Congress would have to change the laws to allow nuclear fuel to be recycled. As it is, that’s not allowed.
@ 538
Next cycle MUST have a Feats of Strength and Trivial Pursuit aspect/ showdown.
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Warren: Private reactors are in the pipe.
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Hey, RTO: a few days after posting that I found the site for the company itself.
There’s some interesting reading on there.
Hmm… link didn’t come through. Let’s try again.
As it is, that’s not allowed.
Yes. Fuck you very much, Jimmy Carter.
You bet SBP. I even found an extract of some of their technical workups.
Matt, Esq.
I agree with you, regardless of how elitist it sounds; I can’t couch it any more genteel since I’m drinking…
But, I’ve often though that there should be a basic civics exam given when you go for voter registration. Unfortunately, populism has been used by politicians to gain leverage since NYC in the early 1800, when the Van Buren political types realized that if they could get the great unwshed in the Bowery to cast their votes for them, they could easily outnumber the opposition…
I know that some folks will call me on disenfranchising folks, but it is a matter of fact that at the time of the American revolution, 30% were Tories, 20% were what we call Patriots, and 50% were apathetic; and unfortunately the numbers have not changed that much in modern times. The only time the apathetic types turn out is during extraordinary times; and then they aren’t any more knowledgable than when they chose not to vote-they simply are there to be swayed by the most skilled demagogue…
It’s a sad state of affairs in a representative democracy, but most folks are ignorant of the issues and their relation to our national constitution…
President Barack Hussein Obama. We are well and truly fucked.
Which I’ll post a link to…when I find it again….
Healthcare is a RIGHT!!
It must be true. I pay more for healthcare for my employees than I pay for the real estate for them to work in. It’s the second largest line item on the expense side of the P&L for us.
If it’s a RIGHT, I shouldn’t be paying for it then. Perhaps I should cancel health coverage next week since the right to it automatically accrues to everyone by default.
RTO
oh keerist… so Dem Congresscritters are blocking nuke development by such idiot laws.
I hope it’s up to Baracky’s standards, MC.
You wouldn’t want to get one of those unspecified fines, now…
Well come on Darleen. You want to be responsible for contaminating the inside of a reactor by putting radioactive waste in it?
Darleen, if I remember right, Jimmuh had the theory that if we stopped reprocessing spent nuclear fuel, other countries would stop, too, thus preventing nuclear proliferation through some alchemical means or other.
Jimmuh had a lot of fucktarded notions like that.
I’m not all caught up with what you guys said but for real if McCain had gone supernegative or asked Baracky about his little terrorist friend it would have been a mistake I think. Too too easy to frame the gay town hall as negative guy not wanting to talk about the economy and address the concerns of teh voters, and guess who’s doing the framing? Baracky’s NPR and NBC and Newsweek is who.
Much better to force all that stuff into a facility like Yucca Mountain so the no-nuke and green crowds can agitate in elections on your behalf.
But Baracky won’t win I promise.
The Health Care Right statement will need to be needled and certain radio talk show hosts will be all over it tomorrow. Played correctly, that statement opens alot of doors.
Matt, Esq: It was yet another shittily moderated and useless debate, and McCain looked pickled and Obama looked like a huffy pep rally queen. Why no hard questions on the economy?
Think what it must have been like to listen to Pres candidates actually debate the meaning of the political philosophy that underlay the Declaration and Constitution during the first fifty or sixty years of the nation, rather than just spend their time making shit up out of whole cloth while the audience sits there unfazed or tittering at some idiotic gloss, unaware they are giving away the precious thing they might have had.
Screw the fines SBP – he’s attributing the inalienable to this issue. He’s asserting that in the world you are BORN with healthcare. Well, who the freak is going to pay for it?
Because Tom Brokaw picked the questions. Have you tried to watch MTP the past few weeks?
Unfortunately, I didn’t see any opportunity for McCain to bring up Ayers. He got the Fannie/Freddie thing and countered O’s lies about regulation “I have a copy of the letter and O’s name is not on it.” and the “did we find out about the fine?”
McCain and Palin need to stay in the news cycle with hard attacks on the trail.
MTP is pretty bad alright RTO. I tivo the thing but have ended up deleting it after about five minutes or so.
Are blowjobs a right, yet?
Born with healthcare, government housing, government schooling, government food stamps, government ownership of your ass because of the greater good.
Healthcare is a RIGHT is the major gaffe of the evening.
Depends on who’s giving them, according to Barney Frank, Dan.
Yes, better to attack on your own terms and without immediate rebuttal. Let the sarrogates try to spin and obfuscate the facts… it looks weak and provides greater opportunities to establish the direction of the cycle.
NBC, by giving MTP to Brokaw actually found a way to make me appreciate David Gregory that week he guest hosted.
Blowjobs are health care. As are full-auto machine guns.
Yes, Dan. You have a right to blow the government.
Well, obviously you are, MC.
You own a business, therefore you have plenty money.
Right?
And if you kick, he’s going to fine you for it.
No doubt with interest and penalties, too.
Thanks, RTO. That’s all I’m sayin’.
So, RTO, when are you running for office?
Because I’d be all about that free blowjobs and machine guns thing.
Comment by Sdferr on 10/7 @ 9:07 pm #
You are sooooooooo right, that would have been much cooler than our modern chicken in every pot giveaway politics
RTO Trainer on 10/7 @ 8:52 pm #
“Warren: Private reactors are in the pipe.”
Ayup. There’s a lot of new tech out there that is just now coming online and is becoming more cost-effective every day. (e.g. These days, home geo-thermal has an ROI of three to five years. Put up a few solar panels and/or a small wind turbine and you’re off the grid. Plus, storage batteries have improved almost exponentially from five years ago. Do a grid connect and in most states, the local electric company will send *you* a check every month. Total ROI in about seven to ten years. Lots of tax write-offs, too. Plus, save 300-400 bucks a month.) People who say wind and solar are somehow not cost-effective and that nuclear is the only way to go are just ignorant. Those folks are just not even trying to keep up with their science and physics.
Other technologies that are now in the marketplace, plus others that are in development for mass production – with an average 18 month timeframe from basic idea to the marketplace – will change the economic and social landscape, anyway. (If ya think the internet and things like the iPhone have changed the world, well, you ain’t seen nuthin.’)
In other words, even w/o Fannie and Freddie, in a few years the new tech would crash the stock markets anyway.
Hell, Obama’s not “Change!” He’s 1970’s Chicago machine politics and 1960’s political and social radicalism. As said, McCain’s idea of ‘new’ technology is 1970’s nuclear energy.
These guys are beating us up with the past.
>>President Barack Hussein Obama. We are well and truly fucked.
Still 27 days left. No despairing, just voting, talking to idiots, etc. Don’t fall for the polls as presented by the liars in the MSM.
Also I liked McCain’s song about Iran.
By all means,faithkeepers, keep the faith, but, but, but, sputter… Warren F-ing Buffett TresSec? McCain is a goddamn lunatic. Sitting still while Obama pounds away at the decision to go into Iraq to take out Saddam and he says not a word in defense?
I liked McCain’s song about Iran but Baracky sounded appalled I noticed.
My eldest daughter is an RN. When is King Obama going to declare her a slave in order to deliver “rights” to everyone else?
@ 579
And he could have laid it to rest once and for all if he joked about it… only country that worked in the meter, or something. He did pin down O! on PAKY-stan…. had him spinning and contradicting himself on the go.
He doesn’t have to, Darleen.
Where is she going to go?
Google “Canadian doctor shortage” to find out what happened up north. Unfortunately, our medical personnel won’t have that option.
Buffett can be trusted not to even consider it though. He’s busy making shitty chocolate and selling the dollar short.
Well that, and rooting for more Government intervention he can game to make tons of money from, yeah.
Buffett = Soros lite.
Oh, yeah SBP. Plenty money. Heh.
We are being crushed by the tax system – and the compliance system. My costs for complying with the tax system has increased by more than 500% over the last ten years. Do you know that SarbOx has trickled down onto private small businesses? Don’t get me started.
But small business carries the economy – by any measure that’s where the jobs are.
Healthcare is a contract – either between employer and employee or consumer and provider.
Given that I’m an old guy, I’m very motivated to have the best possible healthcare plan possible – but the cost is already at unacceptable levels and government invervention in healthcare is for the most part responsible for driving up costs. Industry can provide efficiencies to reduce costs if we can just be let loose to do it.
But to characterize healthcase as a basic human right is the kind of thing that makes businesses leave the country.
healthcase = healthcare …
I shouldn’t damn McCain though I guess.
After all, he is who he is.
Who am I to expect him to be someone else who would stand up for the world historically unique political system we have been bequeathed by the blood and sacrifice of millions of patriots rather than stand there and watch as it gets flushed down a shithole?
The differences between the two were stark, if experience and wisdom are what you are looking for in a president.
I thought Obama looked unsure of himself a lot, and the rest of the time he was preachy and superior.
McCain is all about the straight talk. I thought he looked like he could run the country in his sleep.
And I hope he does.
which reminds me. O! understands why certain businesses prefer incorporating in Delaware, but he can’t seem to see how regulation might drive other businesses out of the country.
People can go years without every seeing a doctor or the inside of a hospital.
A few weeks without food and we bury the person.
Yet, is food a right?
What makes fucking bastards like Barry think that it is ok for HIM to confiscate the labor of doctors and nurses?
McCain wins the FOX text in vote 86% to 12% – if nothing else, better than the last one…
Darleen – good hit on the head of the nail!
I’d bet that Obama would agree that food is a right, but maybe not the blow jobs and machine guns.
Which is weird, because I’m pretty sure that you could get some food if you had a machine gun.
Hell, I’m going hunting with Sarah Palin. I know we’re going to get some food…
What about this mortgage buyout that McCain announced? Where the hell did that come from? It’s like being mugged by an octopus.
Karl Rove is hammering on Obama’s plan and small business on FOX. Hope someone is listening.
I don’t like doctors.
Avoid them like the plague.
Rather be dead than wet the bed.
I like food though.
What’s your position on blow jobs, lee?
Crike. First the bailout, now this. We’re all socialists now.
I’ll bet a lot of you remember the destruction of the WorldTradeCenter Towers on 9/11. Oh, well, one or two of you anyway.
I’ll even bet some of you remember where you were and what you were doing. Ahhhhhhh, well, you over there, I’ll bet you remember don’t you?
Oh. You don’t? Uhhhhhnnnnh. Well, let me tell you, cause I’m a Senator. It was a big deal. And maybe you might, well, maybe you, well you could remem…well I wish you remembered it.
Anyone got any tips on how to get your house appraised for a low value?
‘Cause I’m starting to feel like a chump here for having a current mortgage.
Whether nishi and thor are right and McCain is a senile old fool, or Ric Locke is right and it is some fucked up sense of chivalry, the effect is the same: he is part of the problem, not the solution, and he has no fucking business being given any more power.
And if Alan Colmes were any stupider they would have to put a seat belt on his desk chair and make him wear a helmet.
A Current Mortgage. Ha. That’s so yesterday. The Foreclosure is the thing.
SBP, yup. I’m feeling like a chump for renting ’cause I can’t afford a house. Don’t I have a right to a house can ‘t afford? Um no. Actually, I don’t have that right.
Heh, Colmes is such a memebot I can’t watch twenty seconds of the guy. Helmet and ballgag, I might consider it.
From the McCain campaign: “What the bloggers are saying”
And by “the bloggers,” they mean the same fucking handful of bloggers they always go to as representative of “the right”:
On debate tactics and overall performance…
Townhall’s Amanda Carpenter: Just like the Saddleback forum earlier this year, McCain answered questions, while Obama seemed to dodge them… All in all, it was a solid performance by McCain…
Redstate’s Erick Erickson: John McCain gave the most substantive answers to the questions. Obama patently refused to answer some of the questions, including the last question. He couldn’t bring himself to admit there are things he does not know. I suspect that McCain actually will pick up a bit from here. His answers were common sense answers and steady. He did well.
National Review’s Kathryn Jean Lopez: Going Negative: It’s safe to say Obama went first.
Ann Althouse: Obama pops up and says he’s just trying to keep up with McCain. … That seemed a little dorky and childish.
Commentary’s Daniel Casse: For a guy who is usually hard to control, McCain is delivering tight, crisp, and extremely effective answers. Every answer has a similar structure: (a) I care about this issue (b) I’ve stood up against Bush/special interests on this issue (c) Obama has never taken a stand, never acted on this (d) so let’s compare records.
Redstate’s Erick Erickson: I’m struck during this debate that Obama is really quick to cry foul. … Obama is doing his best to play a victim, but even watching the CNN independent voter lines, it doesn’t appear to be working to his advantage. People don’t like whiners.
On McCain’s bipartisan and leadership credentials…
Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey: Who will be your treasury secretary? Good answer, offering a bipartisan slate of selections. Obama: I like Warren Buffet too!
Commentary’s Jen Rubin: McCain flashes his credentials on bipartisanship. Obama never took on the leaders of his own party. Let’s look at our records. Go to the watchdogs he says and says look at the records. Obama voted for nearly a billion in pork barrel spending. Then look at the proposals for the economy for middle income jobs. McCain is as effective in doing the compare-and-contrast exercise as he has ever been.
Townhall’s Amanda Carpenter: How is Obama going to answer this barrage of attacks from McCain? He’s pointing out all the times he as worked with Democrats (Lieberman on energy, Feingold on campaign finance, Kennedy on immigration) across the aisle and rightly noting he is the most liberal, big spending senator in the U.S. Senate. Bonus points to McCain for highlighting the $3 million earmark Obama secured for an overhead projector.
On Fannie and Freddie…
Talking Points Memo’s Greg Sargent: McCain just hit Obama squarely over Fannie and Freddie, claiming his call for action on the mortgage giants shows he was out front on the crisis
Commentary’s Linda Chavez: Obama looked positively sheepish when McCain confronted him on the letter which Obama did not sign warning of Fannie Mae disaster.
On spending…
The Corner’s Michael Graham: Write that Down: “Net Spending Cut” And then try to find any evidence of that fact from Sen. Obama’s public statements, spending proposals, or wildest fantasies. Seriously, after listening to Sen. Obama campaign for two years, is there ANYONE who believes President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Harry Reid are going to cut spending?
Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey: Obama says eliminate deficit spending, but what will he cut?
Townhall’s Amanda Carpenter: Tom Brokaw seems really worried about entitlement spending. He wants to know if the candidates “would give Congress a date certain to reform Social Security and Medicare within 2 years.” Obama says “I can’t guarantee we are going to do it in the next two years, but I would like to do it in my first term as president” and goes back to talking about taxes.
The Campaign Spot’s Jim Geraghty: Obama may have made the biggest whopper of the campaign when he said he’s proposing more in spending cuts than in spending proposals. The RNC puts his spending at $1.238 TRILLION.
The American Spectator’s Phil Klein: Obama’s Budget Scalpel…I prefer McCain’s hatchet.
The Weekly Standard’s Mary Katharine Ham: I’m pretty sure I could Google all night long and never find a formula that would make Barack Obama’s public statements indicate that his administration would represent a “net spending cut.â€Â
On the government inventing computers…
The American Spectator’s John Tabin: “The Computer†was not invented by a bunch of government scientists.
Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey: the government did not invent the computer.
On US foreign policy and using military force…
The American Spectator’s John Tabin: The Obama Doctrine… It is in our national interest to stop humanitarian disasters. Except in Iraq.
Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey: What is the Obama Doctrine when national security isn’t at stake? Interesting question. And, uh, we DID intervene in the Holocaust. He’s stumbling badly here.
Redstate’s Erick Erickson: Barack Obama suggests we need to consider moral issues in intervening with combat forces. He mentions intervening in the Holocaust and how we should have done that. Um Senator, we did intervene in the Holocaust. It was called World War II.
National Review’s Mark Levin: Obama is utterly incoherent on foreign policy.
On health care…
Commentary’s John Podhoretz: McCain just creamed Obama on health care. This may be the first time in recorded history that a Republican has actually bested a Democrat on a core Democratic issue.
The American Spectator’s Quin Hillyer: On the health care question, McCain is giving an excellent answer.
On Obama and the debate rules…
Powerline’s John Hinderaker: Obama doesn’t want to follow the rules. I wonder whether this will rub some viewers the wrong way.
Townhall’s Amanda Carpenter: How many times now has Obama asked to bend the rules of the debate, with these follow-up questions?? I remember at least twice.
The Corner’s Mark Levin: Obama is breaking the rules of the debate, no one will care, but there was a time when a gentleman’s agreement meant something.
*****
Fuck everyone else. I’m for me from here on out.
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WHO’S WITH ME?
B Moe, too true. McCain is a big government guy. We’re all socialists now.
What’s your position on blow jobs, lee?
I prefer standing.
I’m for you, Jeff, but I’m with me.
IIRC in the S&L meltdown, the government DID acquire a lot of the assets..and eventually sold them for a profit to the taxpayers.
I’m in. What these nimrods don’t understand is McCain doesn’t need to convince them, he has to go after those two year olds Obama is getting. To win them over he has to draw blood, he needs to go after Obama and leave no doubt he is a punkass poser.
Show him how JG, maybe Megan is lurking.
I unnerstand Mr. Moe but for reals a Pezzydent Baracky alloyed with his media and with Democratic majorities is endgame. Game over. It’s live to fight another day time in America.
Althouse? Althouse?
Darleen, did the government confiscated the assets; it didn’t buy them. The investors lost their money. This bailout buys the assets and lets the investors profit from it. That’s fucked up.
Yeah, I don’t get the Althouse thing, either.
I understand why Insty likes her (colleague, and all that) but she’s way too bland for my tastes.
Try buying a few million in real estate over the last couple of years – because of the vastly increasing lease rates for small businesses as PE firms bought up all the commercial real estate around the country at a premium – and now wonder whether we are under water or not.
Insty likes McCardle and Althouse. Whatever.
I think Althouse is pretty.
I think the S&L’s were allowed to fail first though, Dar, so there is a difference with today’s dealio. They’re trying hard to keep the banks and whatnot from failing.
Oh, what JeffY said.
McCardle is hot. Althouse is warm.
She’s okay, happy, but Jessica Alba is cuter.
Doesn’t mean I’m going to read her blog. :-)
Althouse strikes me as the kind who gets really pissy when you don’t acknowledge her the way she wants to be acknowledged.
But now that’s academic, duh.
I don’t think so, Reid and Pelosi could fuck up a two car funeral. Obama doesn’t know how to do anything but campaign, and he isn’t particularly good at that. They would also have to contend with Kos and Hamsher and Huffington and that bunch of yo-yos. I honestly don’t see anything of significance making it out of that fucking house of mirrors. Too many egos and not enough brain cells. The thing to be thinking now is how do we get this shit turned around and headed back toward reality. McCain isn’t going to help, Obama might.
Great summary Jeff – where’s Althouse been on the candidates? I have no idea…
McArdle’s working for gay gossip site and anti-Semitic conspiracy newsletter The Atlantic (tm Ace o’ Spades), so I kinda don’t have much respect for her these days.
626 was in answer to feets at 615
Yes. Of course we’re with you. Where are you going, by the way? New Left? Weathermen? ACORN voting scandals? I never know what to pack.
JeffY and Sdferr
I haven’t gone back to look at it again… I was just trying to recall what happened and remembered it was quite nasty.
Is the government required to give mortgage holders a profit? I believe the government was going to buy those mortgages for something like 50-60% of value?
Are you guys blind?
Mary Katharine Ham: I’m pretty sure I could Google all night long and never find a formula that would make Barack Obama’s public statements indicate that his administration would represent a “net spending cut.â€Â
I’m standing…er, I mean she’s understanding! ahh, OUTstanding.
I think Althouse is pretty.
Pretty what?
I’m going to lift weights and aggravate my shoulder.
After that, I’m going for the Guinness.
We need a three man commission on the economy.
I’d nominate Warren Buffet, Geoge Sorros and Ross Perot.
Just to get the sound bite from Perot: “What kind of idiots are you guys anyway?”
Obama might help BMoe? What, in an utterly upsidedown sort of way you mean?
Or have you lost something over there on the floor, yeah, right over there, see, that skittery thing, over there.
I’m feelin’ you, Jeff. Sent out an e-mail to all the biggies and got exactly zippo links. Then again, I’m a much smaller fish than you, so I don’t expect too much anyhow.
And hey, how about that McCain nationalizing a chunk of the home mortgage industry! Washington does such a bang-up job of everything else, why not let it be a landlord too!
I think BMoe meant that Obama might crash and burn on his own…
But we need to help him along…
The S&L bailout created the environment in which Wall St. bankers could take crazy risks. The only solution to ending this cycle is to allow the bad money to exit the economy and to force investors to take their losses. This will happen one way or another. There are no S&L banks today. They are all history. Investors lost it all.
Today, socialists have decided that some businesses are too big to fail. These business have the effective power to tax the electorate. That’s fucked up.
Dick Simon just explained to McCain how he should be approaching Ayers, talking about the damage to the education system he is doing now that Obama has been aiding and abetting instead of just talking about him bombing the Pentagon 40 years ago.
It was nasty politically when it went down (my girlfriend at the time was at OTS, then called FSLIC I think) but the RTC went pretty well (and quietly) as I remember it.
Obama might help BMoe?
Not intentionally. But yeah.
Sorry, but who is Dick Simon?
My parents lost money in the S&L fiasco. They learned to invest prudently. Why are investors today more privileged? If I sound strident, I’m sorry. I am rather bitter about how House Republicans voted and McCain’s stand on the bailout.
He’s the guy that Lee is over standing beside right now.
Keeding! I’m keeding!
Shit, not Dick Simon, the former Clinton advisor that smacked down Colmes the other night, what is that fuckers name.
Jesus I got a lot of nerve calling somebody else senile.
Rescue. It’s a rescue. Dulcet tones. Soothing colors.
Dick Morris?
Dick Morris.
Republicans know how to stand up to McCain. They’ve made him make his pouty face too many times to count.
WEll, Dick does have a point.
it’s like you scrambled the letters in his last name, but made the two r’s an n. heh.
One thing the trolls are right about. Whoever wins, We federalists are out til 2012 at least.
Maggie = perspicacious
But to answer your question, Dick Simon was an Indy car driver and owner in the 70s and 80s. I think he might own a trucking company out west, too. I don’t know what he thinks of Ayers, but I doubt he would approve.
Does that mean no blowjobs until 2012?
Federalism died with the 17th Amendment methinks. It’s been a retrograde operation ever since then.
I like that. Much better than the William Tell Overture I had going on in my head. Dulcet. Soothing. Works for me.
What? No blowjobs. I have a right to a blow job, damn it.
And it matters for real that McCain is committed to success in Iraq. Baracky isn’t. Baracky is committed to an Iraq narrative that mirrors that of Vietnam. I hate that.
Less William Tell, more Enya
Darleen, LOL! ROFLMAO
If McCain wins there is a chance he might appoint SCOTUS justices who might actually start to turn the tide. There is a further chance that Palin will rise to POTUS and she will appoint SCOTUS justices who might begin to turn the tide.
There is no upside to Obama. He will appoint SCOTUS justices who will make Ginsburg look like Scalia.
Enya doesn’t sound like something I’d want to get to know, does it?
That’s why I’m holding my nose and voting for McCain.
“Born with healthcare, government housing, government schooling, government food stamps, government ownership of your ass because of the greater good.”
It’s called “State slavery” done in all the best progressive nations. Much more comprehensive than that old fashioned private kind.
Coming soon to a nation near you.
Dick Simon is also publishing magnate of Simon and Schuster…
Orinoko Flow I hate hate hate. A terrible thing to do and call music. Also what ThomasD says is very important.
If McCain wins is a phrase I’m going to start associating with bunnies pooping little gold bars the grocery stores will be happy to take in exchange for sixpacks of malt liquour and cartons of maltballs.
Then he’s a Carly Simon Simon?
No way MC!
Dick morris has a mouth like a Sea Bass.
Not purdy a’tall
McCain will expand government, but he’ll kill terrorists. What a fucking choice, but there it is.
I’ve always thought that prmising every Soldier a hummer would be a good recruiting tactic.
Sdferr likes teh malt I guess.
NTTAWWT
JeffY
Though, I gotta say, when McCain said “across the board spending freeze” then coupled it with a commission akin to the base-closing one to start cutting programs, that got my husband’s attention. Barry just sat there looking a little poleaxed. WHAT?? CUT PROGRAMS AND NOT THOSE BABYKILLER SOLDIERS AND THEIR AWFUL TOYS OF WAR???
Malt malt malt, though when I think dulcet-soothing, I think Ralph Vaughn Williams’ “The Lark Ascending” or something along those lines, not really a bunch of hokey new agey falderol.
Darleen, that’s a good point.
RTO – Should be two hummers – one a vehicle and the other, you know, a hummer. God bless all of you who serve!
Now, I’ve got to promise the ladies some good cunnil… erm, whatcha call it?
Mine too. Idea’s got much merit.
Call it malt MC.
Malt! For the ladies!
Phillip Glass, maybe?
What’s the matter MC?
Aren’t you a cunning linguist?
NO
heh
Well, you can tell that I’m continuing to support stimulus…
Olivier Messiaen, Music for the end of time, given my druthers
By the way Jeff, I think you should change your tag line to:
Because it takes a cunning Linguist to summarize the news!
I mean, c’mon, you can just feel your brain running away now can’t you?
oh, when I say new agey, I mean that stuff associated with waterfally nature, whales, seashores and elevators.
Support of stimulus is clitical to penal reform as well.
ugh and feh, can’t take mr glass. mr britten, mr barber, mr bernstein, mr milhaud, mr poulenc, YAY, mr glass, BOO.
RTO – That’s the kind of reformation we need!
Healthcare is a RIGHT!
see? I put everyone to sleep.
Not me. I eat Phillip’s glass for breakfast – ptui!
well, you keep crazy hours, MC.
Are we done yet?
M’lady! Have you been here all along? Or just finished buying some American real estate?
I watched y’all instead of the debate. You’re much more fun.
Not asleep, though by rights I should head that way. Did McCain do wrong by himself tonight? Or has he captured lightening in a bottle?
I oughtn’t to snigger thus. But can’t help it. So depressing
Now you people are just getting silly. ;^D
Looking around the net….everybody’s saying it was boring.
Which is, actually, a good thing in a sense. Obama was trying to be serious and appear like the man of the hour, Kennedy-like, but he came off as boring and whiny, by turns.
The only thing people remember really about him is:
-healthcare as a right
-wimpy and confused on foreign policy/war
-something else I forgot.
So, not JFK at all. Just another tax and spend Dem pol.
An aside to Jeff:
All of those bloggers are more or less in the tank for McCain, or never criticize him harshly. You do, b/c you’re honest and you’re conservative first, repub second [if at all]. Yours seems currently a different purpose, like a Burke maybe. Its not the easy path, no. You need to write that book.
come to think of it, I did only yell at the television one time.
So many lies, so little time to yell. It’s like the proverbial “drink from a firehose”.
But, m’lady, we would have enjoyed your stimulating participation as well…
Well, I’m going to tune in to UFC instead of the debate replay… good point urthshu about Obama’s lack or oratorial inspiration.
He did suck the most.
Makes no difference who will be the next puppet elected to occupy the White House for the next four years, since those in control of the world’s monetary system are in charge of the United States Legislative, Judicial and Executive branches of Government, the Democratic and the Republican parties and the godless American populace.
does that mean the godbothering American populace can still be free?
(there is a reason why home schooled kids are considered threats to the Establishment)
One of the interesting/telling things about these debates is that they really aren’t much debatey anymore. They can just roll out responses on the net and tv and press for the next eh-week maybe, so they don’t really argue or use too many gotchas. its all just straight on talk to the people time, a big commercial.
Good night all
In related news, the Dow futures are down-80 and the Hang Send and the Nikkei are taking a real beating.
Economically, we’ve got a world-wide, rolling, negative feedback cycle going on here.
An Obama presidency automatically crashes the system. A McCain presidency slows things down, but it crashes anyway.
Sorry. Hang Seng. Hong Kong stock market.
(Hey! When I went to school typing was for secretaries and sissies. …and I weren’t no sissy.)
most of you puppets are racist. when fox says obama won, he won…This negative blog is the only place McGeriatric Loser won…OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!
Can you see Russia from your house?? (wink, wink,)…sportcaster Palin NOT FIT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweet p
you’re as plastic as the astroturf you rode in on
with an IQ to match
Hi all,
been reading Jeff and you guys for what seems like forever,but never felt that there was much I could add.
But I just have to ask you guys two questions!!
Didn’t the O just promote the “Bush Doctrine” with his reply about Israel(not wait for or worry about the UN etc)??
And his whine about us using 25% of the world’s resourses… how come nobody ever wants to say what % of the world economy THAT produces??
ps JeffG ,don’t worry about the others please. What you do always come through and smacks you upside the head with the sense it makes.You clear the brain and make (at least me) want to continue the fight. Thanks
pps music.. about 3pm today I started hearing the Navy Hymn,just saying…
Whoa, a really late troll.
Sad.
Warren
The financial crisis is easily explained
The Jews did it.
I think Obama isn’t likable like Palin.
Palin is all happy and positive, very personable. Obama is doom and gloom, foreboding. He could play the older, ruthless vampire in the next Wesley Snipes movie, and not even break a sweat I bet.
Lee
The Left hates Palin because she is happy. Happy people confuse them and that makes them scared and angry.
If Palin were an authentic woman she should be denouncing the Patriarchy, divorcing her husband, being such a harridan that her kids should be in all manner of therapy and Trig would never have been born. But she could never ever be happy in a less than perfect Left run world.
I think they hate her for the same reason they hate Clarence Thomas, and Jeff.
She’s a traitor to the cause.
Simpler.
They hate her because she refuses to do it herself.
Which makes sense from an evolutionary perspective, I think, that apostates hatred or better, as you have it, traitor hatred. Trust offered and betrayed we perceive as more dangerous than enmity of the openly hostile other tribe over there, who we are already on guard against. POW’s we take care of until the war is over, traitors we put against the wall and shoot.
Few points I would like to add.
1) I agree with happyfeet, McCain did well and I think that you guys are misreading the debate because some might have had unrealistic expectations for a blogger style flame war.
2)The sense I have is that McCain has successfully stolen Obama’s thunder in a quiet way. Obama is saying the same shit today that he said 6 months ago, McCain’s recent series of chaotic campaign tactics might have damaged him in the short term- but it got the attention of voters. It allows him a certain amount of freedom that Obama is unable to match, as you saw tonight he is able to introduce fresh ideas that might even contradict his earlier position without costing him much politically.
3) re: Fred Thompson. I never understood why Duncan Hunter didn’t get more run from the right, he seemed like the real deal to me.
4)My wife said, “This is like two democrats fighting over which one is the bigger lush.” God, I Love That Woman.
5)ThomasD had a great point about McCain closing strong, people will think of him favorably because of that. McCain’s closing statement blew away these notions that McCain doesn’t get middle America. In that last minute, he spoke to them (us) in ways that Obama will never understand.
6)Most Important: Revist how McCain treated Romney in the debates. McCain kept sandbagging during the early rounds, consistently repeating small simple themes only to unleash a full blown attack in the final debate- granted just about every point McCain hammered was a big fat lie, but the point here is that it worked. The next and final debate is one week from right now, McCain is going to unload right then and right there- it’s what he does.
McCain camp has a sense of humor…
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That’s not all. On the back, carefully engraved, were the words “The One.â€Â
It has more laughs too, though I’m not sure it’s intentional:
The Obama camp was not amused.
“People are struggling, and they want to hear about what these candidates are going to do to fix the economic crisis,†Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said. “It’s unfortunate that the McCain campaign is instead focused on these silly distractions.â€Â
Mr Vietor, politics is all about the silly distraction.
“The Left hates Palin because she is happy” Palin is not fit to be a VP and i cannot imagine how americans can even vote for her. But Darleen, after reading your comments i kinda of know how you folks think and vote..what a pity
but let me guess, you think Obama is fit to be President. oh well, diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks.
If it makes you feel better artiman, I wouldn’t vote for you. You don’t sound happy at all.
Pity.
DARLEAN – “Obama is backing from oil drilling” where did you get that? Just because he pointed out that just by drilling oil america cannot make up for the lack of oil? grow up with facts kiddo
FOR LEE – News flash – I am not in the election. Stop worrying about me.
Yeah maggie. Palin can keep winking and may be one day become president when the oldie dies. You know what once Churchil said that “People will get the government they deserve”. I think that is exactly right. For the folks who vote for their leaders by looking at how she/he dresses up or the looks, that’s what you need. USA would soon be toast.
who is doing that, artiman?
“politics is all about the silly distraction” yeah right. And that’s how exactly you help your leaders dig the hole for you. be silly and look for silly distraction and do the cheer leading. fanstastic. you rock bud.
artiman
Oh, I was just trying to be polite and reciprocate your worry about WHO THE FUCK AMERICANS ARE VOTING FOR!!!!
sorry, this is what I was asking about. we’ve had some resident trolls that are voting for Obama because he’s pretty. In fact, I overheard a woman in the show I’m in state, “If they can vote for someone because she’s a woman, I can vote for Obama because he’s a beautiful man.” perhaps you could address the people that are actually here.
a good part of the population. folksy charm. ring any bells?
because really, I’m likin’ Palin cause she’s the only person in this race with executive experience in an elected office. Legislators are not known for their ability to make quick decisions. for instance, look at Obama’s response to the Georgian conflict.
no.
Maggie – who ever reasons like “because he is a beautiful man” or because she is woman or because she is folksy and charming and almost peripheral things, thats what USA is doomed with.
LEE – I didn’t get what you meant initially. I am not an american. But was following this election since i am in the US this year and its amazing to know that many people don’t care enough to understand their leaders, compare facts etc. I don’t live in the US or care about democrats/Republican (what ever). the one i liked was Ron paul (but his views were a little bit extreme). from the lot that is remaining now, Palin is crap, Obama would do better if he sticks to his words. McCain does not have the track record or the energy to give it what it takes. Thats my view.
Anyway, goodluck americans. even the best president will not be successful in this economic hole your corporate america has dug for you. i am sorry.
If Palin was a democrat, you would be gushing over her artiman. Talking about the caricature of her you invented is one of those silly distractions I was talking about.
Thanks for the most excellent example.
artiman person, do you really support this warmonger Obama?
Tonight Obama put on a display that would make Dick Cheney take a second look- paraphrasing here:
“I will do everything to stop Iran from getting Nukes”, “More American Blood Must Soak The Ground in Afghanistan”,”I LOVE ISRAEL”, “Pockiston is One Bad Piece of Intelligence Away from Getting Air-Raided and Having Civilians Killed”, “Mother Russia is Evil and Must Be Confronted”.
If the last eight years are any indication of the lefts standards, shouldn’t we be calling for an arrest, trial and prison term for this blood thirsty murderer?
maggie katzen – Do you really think Palin has what it takes? please take a step back and ready a few independent reviews. My view she is misinformed, does not answer questions to the point, too much negativity in her remarks and smug sarcasm. she might be president if McCain wins one day. so compare her with your past presidents Regan,Eisenhower, JFK etc who rubbed shoulders with other world leaders. Compare her to Margeret thactcher of UK as a leader of a country. to me she should just stick to what she is doing now. she might be do better.
um, yeah, and you do the same with Obama. dude can’t make a decision to save his life.
Where are you from artiman?
oh, and I also already explained why I think she’d be fine. better than Obama even.
Maggie – I don’t think Obama would measure up. But on a point scale if i compare, to me Palin would still be below Obama and McCain. I am not saying Obama is Jesus christ.Ha ha. If you think i am a democrat. you are wrong. I came to know about democrats and republicans etc only in 2008.
Lee – I am from India. I am in US for 1yr. Back in india political scene is much worse and below comparison. But never the less, I chose to talk about what i saw. And as a person who never followed any thing about elections (other than what i read about Bush-Algore voting and florida election issues and the supreme court verdict of US) and never wondered what is a republican or democrat, take my words as an independent view. Btw, Bush is a joke even in india. so may be i have some thing against repubs :-)
I see, that’s cool artiman.
I do wonder however, how did someone in your circumstances, with regard to a foreign countries politics, end up on a right leaning blog insulting their candidates?
I think your story is as suspect as your character artiman old egg.
Right leaning? I don’t know what that implies. I typed out what i felt. Frankly i don’t care who wins. As for story being suspect, tell me why do think so. Give some logic and reason. old egg? ( i guess you meant decaying egg). any way what ever. i don’t intend to make you happy or see the light. Let me go crash. send me your brick bats to artiman_in_here at yahoo. I’ll get back to you if i get time. One think i can tell you. from what i saw (at the consulting firm my team is working, most americans does not know what i know about the candidates views and independent thought on what would benefit US. And if thats what is expected from educated americans, in another 25 years, you’ll be romans… enjoy and have fun
Sounds like we better cancel that nuke contract with India, eh?
Since Bush is a joke and all, even in India, maybe your money’s no good, fartiman…
I like India. Even if they don’t like us I guess. I can’t worry.
Sure thing artiman.
But how did you come to be posting at this particular blog?
I suppose you don’t know what a troll is either.
happyfeet – I don’t think india hates US. People are the same every where. I have worked with americans and i like them. Anyday I would say americans are better than europeans. But the US govt policies have antagonized a lot of folks over different issues and people dont trust US leaders. that does not mean people hate people. India is a secular state unlike pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq/Iran etc.
MC – get a life. take your nuclear deal and shove it. india went nuclear in 1974 as the 6th nation in the world. don’t think that US is giving nuclear ‘deal’ as a gift. its a give and take. get your facts first.
bruce lee – I clicked a link in CNN to get here. get out of your head thinking that i am some thing you imagine to be. we were not talking about who i am.
oh crap.
oh, nothing personal, artiman.
There’s nearly 300,000,000 geniuses in India, and we get artiman… heh.
Of course, all of those geniuses haven’t helped their economy, either. Now, if artiman blames it on America, it hammers his own national pride, which blows his earlier argument. But if he sticks with the national pride argument, then India screwed up it’s own economy. (India was gettin’ screwed by inflation long before the banking/financial crisis.)
Although, all of that said, Tata Motors is worth the investment.
Fartiman, I have a life, thanks.
I’ll be sure to let my friends at the State Department know that the Indian ‘man on the street’ thinks we should take that nuclear deal and shove it. Gift? Who said that? – ‘contract’ and ‘money’ don’t constitute a gift. Give and take? Ha! Go develop thorium technology yourself then.
Look, the US and India are allies – at the Executive level – you might want to think about the value of that relationship before you go around crapping on it.
I’m talking about who you are artiman.
You are a foreigner come to a pro republican blog and say “Palin is not fit to be a VP and i cannot imagine how americans can even vote for her. But Darleen, after reading your comments i kinda of know how you folks think and vote..what a pity”
So, why don’t you fuck off asshole?
Fuck everyone else. I’m for me from here on out.
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WHO’S WITH ME?
You had me last week, remember? Just promise me we don’t have to sing any “Obama Youth” style songs, please. I have a hard enough time keeping up with the Methodist Hymnal.
Artiman,
W/r/t to India, I think the nuclear deal was a good move technologically and diplomatically. I know that the debate over the deal has caused huge chaos in domestic Indian politics, but on balance, India has never really been a nuclear proliferator to any great degree. Which makes it very unique among nuclear powers. I also had hopes for space cooperation, but I think part of that will have to do with Japanese-Indian developments w/r/t China.
In any case, if one were to make the assertion that Biden is a better VP pick than Palin because of his experience, then it would suggest that experience is important. If experience is important, then McCain’s edge in experience should be definitive. If it is not, then that would imply that experience isn’t a major factor, and therefore Palin would not be a worse pick than Biden on an experiential basis.
Regards,
BRD
Maggie is the rare type that can actually hear that Palin dog whistle.
It is 6:55 here and I am still perplexed as to how a Dem politician can just wave his hand and grant new rights. Any politician powerful enough to give rights is powerful enough to take them away. Someone seriously needs to implement my 12 pack in every fridge plan so at least I can cling to that when they take away my gun and my antipathy toward people who don’t look like me.
I forgot the Bible on purpose cause I really ain’t religious at all.
Obama’s lead down to 1.9%? http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1575
Maybe we’re *not* in a “Oh noes, McCain needed a debate knockout or it’s all over!” situation. Maybe the ground game/ad game is working and we’re trending back in regardless of the debate. Or maybe the pollsters are just playing around with the internals yet again just to make it exciting. Maybe nobody’s changed their mind since August and it’ll come down to GOTV and turnout like usual.
In any case, the McCain campaign playbook scores over the more pedestrian Obama campaign playbook in two important respects. First, it is slightly cheaper; and second, it has the words DON’T PANIC inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover.
And on a side note, I keep hearing that state polls are lagging indicators behind national polls, but I’m not quite sure why that would be. You’d think they’d reflect trends at exactly the same rate, wouldn’t they?
I only was able to watch thirty minutes. McCain talking about saving people’s homes was too much. Reminded me why I wasn’t a McCain fan from the start.
I had the strangest dream last night about Obama performing parts of “Tommy” last night. Bullshitted his way through it.
I swears, the most frightening thing about this whole Obama-one thing is if (God Forbid) he is president, where does that leave the “watchdog” media? Are we supposed to believe that they’re going to go back to the job of keeping people honest?
I mean, cripes. Just look how the powers that be made that SNL skit go away.
I love how Obama is going to fix healthcare by reducing costs! GENIUS! Why didn’t anyone think of that.
Now … how is he going to lower costs? Pixie dust? He’s pushing an ad in Detroit really hard and just glosses over this. States it as fact. People are supposed to pretend that reducing costs isn’t the major problem. He’s just gonna reduce ’em!
Well I saw the press “watchdog” that new right that was invented last night and not bat an eye. Just like they are now “watchdogging” the hell outa some Fannie and Freddie.
“3 million for an overhead projector in Chicago”
“I voted against those bills because they were LOADED WITH GOODIES.”
“Voter fraud, Fannie Fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud.”
This resonates. John needs to do a couple lines off of Cindy’s hip bones before the next debate.
The best thing about this election, is that Sarah Palin will be the next president of the United States. 2012, if Obama wins, 2012/2016 if McCain wins. She is the only one of the four people involved that has any clue about America and the constitution. McCain is a good man, but just another politician. Obama is a piece of shit marxist/leninist who I truly feel will use his office to punish those who aren’t onboard. Kinda like that George Bush/Dick Cheney caricature we’ve been reading and hearing for the last eight years only, for real.
I love how Obama is going to fix healthcare by reducing costs! GENIUS! Why didn’t anyone think of that.
I am thinking the real winner the past 30 years has been Bill Ayers and his cronies. It appears they have raised a generation of idiots right under our noses.
Whatever George Bush/Dick Cheney have done you don’t agree with, I do not remember them ever just granting the American people a completely new right thru executive fiat.
Yes BMoe they have been very successful. Do they even still teach the Pledge of Allegiance anymore or is that teh racist?
WHO’S WITH ME?
I am Spartacus.
Thor, you are a real big man on a computer screen. Real big men on computer screens typically have vaginas.
At this point, only thor can wake the Sleeping McCain.
Sorry I’m late. Did artiman bring donuts?
Because Biden said there’s be donuts.
thor, it’s put up or shut up time. Tell me three things, factual and concrete and that can stand some critical analysis, that O! stands for. I would appreciate twenty words or less on each. Because I don’t hear you saying anything positive here, only screeching about Palin and McCain. So tell us what you and your candidate are actually for, and how that will positively affect change.
Groundrules:
Bush is not running for reelection, so any mention of “failed policies of the last 8 years”, Bush or Cheney is out of bounds.
I would suggest “the mortgage mess”, “domestic energy policy” and “Supreme Court nominations”
Ready, steady, go!
I’m goddamn HUGE!
Alp could use one of my Birkenstocks for a bed.
I think artiman is too busy bringing everyone juice boxes.
Thor, you are a real big man on a computer screen.
Not so big on a trading screen, though.
In fact, he sucks ass.
Good thing Daddy has plenty of money for him to play with. :-)
The wind cries Yen.
No, it’s either fresh lassi or a raw coconut. Boxes are so neocolonial.
Birkinstocks…that says it all.
As I suspected, thor. You are merely an O! chimp, flinging poo around our living room and screeching at the top of your lungs. Pity that, because I’m seriously in need of someone that can explain to me how any sentient being can be an Obama/Biden supporter.
Birkinstocks
…and bride burning. Ghandi wept.
I knew a lot of Indians in grad school.
Every single one of them was planning to stay in the U.S. if possible.
Funny, that.
(so there’s no misunderstanding, I thought it was great that they wanted to do that — always room for more smart people)
I have seen it claimed on a couple of sites that McCain refused to shake Baracky’s hand after the debate. Is that the case?
I knew a lot of Indians in grad school.
The reason I chose to go to Kenya in the Peace Corps was my best friend in college was an Asian-Indian, and he was returning home. Lots of his relatives had their property in Tanzania nationalized for Ujaama. They used to invite me to cricket tailgates and enjoy pranking on me by pouring extra curry powder in the food.
BaThe oozing sore on Chicago’s sperm donator was an economist in Kenya. Powerful economy there in Kenya.
The Kenyan people are some of the nicest, most welcoming people in the world. Unfortunately, we’re getting something mixed with prime American moonbat.
You know, O! stated that he’s gonna cut government spending. Anyone have any idea specifically what he’s going to cut?
artiman was OK. I really don’t like/respect Indian culture or food or any of that so I don’t know where it comes from, but he had his head on straight.
He’s still making up his mind. But you note how he said ‘everybody is the same everywhere’? Thats the Death Knell to any Leftist sympathy. artiman is a populist at heart. Give him time, he’ll figure it out.
Anyway, he’s probably a doctor or knows people in the medical field. LOL If he doesn’t come around from others arguing about socializing medicine, he will once he sees the results.
I think Rush made a big mistake, that is going to cost us all.
artiman at #728
Obama is doing his classic “present”. He is not serious about drilling for oil in America. He has never supported it in legislation, he reluctantly has dipped a toe in that direction, but just like he gives himself an “out” with nuke power (he’ll only go for it when the “nuclear waste problem” has been solved to his satisfaction – translation: never), Barry immediately starts in on all the ways tapping American oil resources is a non-starter.
Barry is not for American interests for Americans. Barry is for American interests aligning as a “good world citizen.” He wants America as Europe, socialist, government controled speech, regulated exceptionalism.
My only silver-lining at this point looking at a triumvirate of Obama/Pelosi/Reid with their “eat the rich” tax policies, is the world wide Depression they trigger will force people to at least toss Democrats out of Congress in two years.
DarlEEn
There’s nothing he can cut, Carin. To retain his sheeple, Obama must promise more. He only promises more and more and more. Feeding his beasts.
The American people lost out a long time ago. “A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct”. Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society comes to mind. That’s one of the skewing factors that set our current economic problems into motion.
Socialisms, entitlements, freebies, whatever you want to call ‘em. We fed the beast, now it’s coming back for more and more, and it’s getting bigger and bigger. We shouldn’t have ever gone there, at least not to the degree that we did.
Patrick @777
You’re attempting to get reason from an morally indecent pseudo-male. Like Kate/nishi/griefer, it is thoroughly obsessed by reason of jealousy of the Palins. It has no intellectual argument, just a blackhole where a soul usually resides, sucking the good faith from anyone in reach then ejecting nihilistic poison in return.
Plainslow what does Rush have to do with this debate?
Well, Dems always buy votes from the people. No, he can’t cut stuff really, so he’ll flat out own the healthcare industry and then fix prices below market. He won’t care that it will make the whole thing fail b/c he’ll be out before that happens.
Should be pounded, really “Obama will do for the health care industry what he has done for the mortgage industry”
Price fixing is right there in the Constitution right beside the right to healthcare.
Unlike Barry, I AM the desendent of slaves … and I watched as Barry announce that my daughter, the RN, has no right to her own labor, she belongs to the state.
If doctors and nurses all decided to quit, just who is Barry going to round up to make sure that “right” is fulfilled? Just who really wants to be treated by a doctor or nurse that is working with a gun to his/her head?
You ain’t gots ya no slave cred, ya culchie.
Sorry Darleen the Government has just given itself the right to set your daughter’s wage and who she must provide her services to. Which sounds like slavery to me too if you ask me. Some homeless bum with no money in Peoria now has the right to her service and expertise. Oh yeah so do illegal immigrants too after a couple court cases before the 9th.
I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure they shook hands or hugged or something. you might try c-span’s youtube channel.
Yes, slaves.
Barry is a prep school, AA college pick, never had a hard time in his life or actually held a job, fraud. The MSM refuses to vet the socialist bastard.
McCain McCain’t, hahaha.
Mr Pink. I was refering to “Operation Chaos “. he thought McCain would have an easier time with Obama, so he even sugested people change parties where they could to vote against Hillary, so Obama could win.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031908/content/01125108.guest.html
He wanted to keep Clinton in the race in order to have her attack Obama. He never ever said he wanted people to vote for Obama. You are completely wrong, he was urging people to vote for Clinton.
Did you even read the link you posted?
Well it looks like plainslow picked a appropriate user name.
Let me guess you didn’t just pick that name outa thin air did you?
Lefty trolls can’t read, Pink. All they can do is copy and paste whatever Axelrod gives them.
Not complaining? You’re whining with no dignity whatsoever and screeching hyperboles. Jeez. You should learn the difference from Baracky’s media’s world and the real one. This might could become an Essential Skill.
I don’t know what Strawberry Best means but I think you didn’t get enough sleep and I am worried about you.
“Comment by Darleen on 10/8 @ 7:21 am #
Patrick @777
You’re attempting to get reason from an morally indecent pseudo-male. Like Kate/nishi/griefer, it is thoroughly obsessed by reason of jealousy of the Palins. It has no intellectual argument, just a blackhole where a soul usually resides, sucking the good faith from anyone in reach then ejecting nihilistic poison in return.”
Shorter Darlee: thor is a jerkoff.
#Comment by Semanticleo on 10/8 @ 8:25 am #
Do you speak English?
It will be hard to be that big bad Capitalist Cleo is talking about when for every 1 dollar I bring in the Gov has me already obligated to pay out 2 to people that make less. Probably more like 3 when the 9th decides illegals are entitled to our new Socialized healthcare system.
Just calm down and go to your happy place. You sound actually frantic to punish someone anyone. I saw this on tv once and that person had a Bad Fate is what happened.
“Comment by artiman on 10/8 @ 12:11 am #
Yeah maggie. Palin can keep winking and may be one day become president when the oldie dies.”
Yet another reason to vote for McCain.
Thanks!
I slept good thanks for asking. Well actually I went to bed and then got up and made a buffalo burger and then I went back to bed again. That’s ok but if I did that every night it would be bad.
Barry is a prep school, AA college pick, never had a hard time in his life or actually held a job, fraud.
Last week. The university gym. A faculty member (friend of mine) says, “The only thing that might stop Obama is racism.”
Me: “Race is the very thing that might elect him, what with his getting 97% of the black vote and a large guilty white vote.”
Him: “What guilty white vote? I don’t see it.”
Me: “When you and she were grad students together, why did ___(black student)_____ , get away with misuing state vehicles and grant money, failing to complete her doctorate timely, and just generally being a pain in the ass to manage?”
Him: “Well, the racism thing will probably be a wash.”
I am not part of the problem, Semanticleo. I endeavor not to be anyway. I try really hard not to live a subprime lifestyle, apart from living in Los Angeles.
[…] so many liberals. Far too many people are mesmerized by Obama’s slick attempts at populism, socialism, and just plain ol’ no-more-Bush-ism. Too distracted by pundits on TV, too lazy to be […]
Good morning PWers!
JD I missed you yesterday, dammit. Oh and btw, it is Comrade Sugartits now, buddy.
As has been said above last nights setting just wasn’t the place to bring up Ayers, I suspect it was set up like that in hopes McCain would bring it up so the media could club him with it this morning.
But there is much more to come especially about the nature of the “school reform” that was being bankrolled by the CAC.
I think any of you moonbats that think that is over are in denial, one thing is certain Keating isn’t going to work for a counter.
I am. Something you’d like to ask?
We are all Comrade today Lisa. Our dear leader gets to invent new rights for us with a wave of us hand. No votes, no checks and balances, no problem. That is about as commie as you can get.
Hi Lisa!
Alles klar frau commisar?
I don’t think the word “capitalist” means what you think it does.
What corporation is this Public Trust?
Upcoming heartache for our occasional commenter who can barely write: Derbyshire on Will Obama Kill Science?
His answer amounts to “maybe, given his political allies”. Even quotes discussion on Gene Expressions. Apparently the folks over there are a bit concerned about the impact of PC and cultural Marxism on research into the origins of human differences.
Like we’ve all said before, the “war on science” isn’t just from the far-right. Sowwy.
What does the word “capitalist” mean in the context which you used it, cle0?
Jeff G,
You need to be mailing copies of your daily pieces to Mav’s campaign…info@johnmccain.com
I’m sure that they’ll take notice of your well expressed and constructed arguments.
I often write them with critique/comments/suggestions. And, while I won’t attempt to say that I’ve influenced their public posture in any way, it is strange sometimes how my thoughts seem to seep into some of their stump speechifying…I jus’ sayin’…
Have you tried submitting to American Thinker? Perhaps you should mail some of your stuff to Limbaugh; I know that some folks think he’s a blowhard, but he does read a lot and cites writers and sites on the air. Seems like a way to get a little extra play…
Comment by Semanticleo on 10/8 @ 8:42 am #
You DON’T speak English, do you?
“Comment by Sam Hall on 10/8 @ 8:55 am #
I don’t think the word “capitalist†means what you think it does.”
It’s that whole language thing.
oh. Yes. I am a working stiff I guess. There is many what are workier and more stiffer though I guess I would have to say. It’s kind of a sinecure really, except in 4Q.
I blame her parents.
>>There is many what are workier and more stiffer though I guess I would have to say
Like Baracky, a poor black child, scion of a working stiff mom who died of cancer and couldn’t afford to buy nothing to feed Baracky w/out the guvvamint stepping up, ‘cuz everybody’s so mean.
You no worth’m licko Baracky boots!
He’d have to push you out of the way to do that anyway, thor.
“You can’t be a Maverick if all you ever been is a sidekick.”
Ladies and gentleman, Joe Biden is laying wood onto that little moosey-girls backside.
Only if “laying wood” means lying his ass off…again!
You’re not worthy to lick Biden’s hairplugs, thor.
Joe Biden is like the fat Backstreet Boy I think. I’m not sure what he brings to the team at all really.
Comment by Sam Hall on 10/8 @ 9:50 am #
You’re not worthy to lick Biden’s hairplugs, thor.
He could be one of Joey’s buttplugs though!
Comment by Semanticleo on 10/8 @ 9:52 am #
Let’s see if we can get to 1000 comments before the next posting.
With your redundant drivel it’s pretty much a certainty!
@ #858: I think he’s supposed to be the plucky comedy relief.
Though, after he spent all that money getting those hair plugs put in, I don’t know if being plucky is a good idea…
Comment by Semanticleo on 10/8 @ 9:55 am #
“With your redundant drivel it’s pretty much a certainty!â€Â
Thank you very little, fuck you very much.
Nah, I doubt you’d be worth the effort!
Hmm. Somebody got deleted. My comment was supposed to be in reply to Happyfeet at what is now #857.
(troll hammered!)
Apparently one of our nastier trolls is crossing the line again.
I do not think he has a line. Other than the one he snorts up his nose that help him come up with the insane rants he posts on here.
People snort powdered feces?
“Obama do you swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America?”
Barry “Yes, but I do not think my Constitution is the same Constitution that you guys have been using for over 200 years. My Constitution is more of a funky tie-dye wearing Constitution who gets all up in your face and smells. He also will start giving out the some new rights to shut up if you do not like him.”
Ooooh, I just got the trollhammer working. What FUN!
That would make a fine segment of “schoolhouse rock”, Mr. Pink.
Sister Palin is such a good role model for young women.
Babies! Weeee! It’s raining white babies!
I have a feeling all those new rights will somehow involve my tax dollars and limits on my freedom. Hey though it is one small step on the road to the glorious socialistic paradise. It that will work this time guys I swear. Oh yeah by the way what is the over under on the amount of time it takes O! to flip on the Fairness Doctrine once he gets in office with strong Dem majorities? I say around 5 months.
How do you know which posts are written by lazy black people? Hahaha.
I’m going to install RacistDeleter 2008 into Firefox.
OT: Just an aside here but as it falls into the general sort of incursion against public speech by a self-appointed thought police, I thought it worth mentioning.
Sarah Palin gave a speech here in Lee County last Monday. She was preceded at the event by a number of speakers, one of whom was our County Sheriff, Mike Scott. Here’s a snippet from today’s online edition of our local paper:
So, y’know, it can happen here.
Comrade Obama
“That is not the Constitution I knew.” – Baracky
I suppose you guys are right. he wanted to cause Chaos. To weaken Obama through Hillary. Unfortunetley for me, voting GOP, it seems it did not work. It just seems to have made Obama stronger.
Sorry I did’nt read the whole article. My boss frowns on it.
Too bad your boss doesn’t frown on someone having the reading comprehension of a 6 year old.
Sorry I did’nt read the whole article. My boss frowns on it.
Straighten that paper hat!
“Too bad your boss doesn’t frown on someone having the reading comprehension of a 6 year old.”
And yet you still converse with someone with a reading comprehension of a 6 year old. My you are enlightened.
Time to refill the napkin holders!
“And yet you still converse with someone with a reading comprehension of a 6 year old. My you are enlightened.”
If you consider this conversing you really are plain slow.
Toilet overflowed. Get a mop.
Well, I’ll leave you alone Mr Pink. I am way too slow to talk with you. Please accept my accept my apologies.
Did you put out that wet floor sign?
No problem plainslow. I probably was way too harsh I am in an extremely bad mood today. I just found out the last of my dental work takes place tommorrow and that is always bad news. And I also watched someone shit over my countries founding Documents last night and the other candidate just sat there taking notes. It was quite irritating. If you took my comments personally I apologize.
Still OT: I hadn’t seen the offending word until just now. Here it is, more or less within a complete context, I’ll assume (not).
Mike Scott, baldly.
Pink, make sure you send the bill to Obama, because it’s your Constituitional right.
Accepted. I should of read the article, and this would’nt of happened.
“Let’s see if we can get to 1000 comments before the next posting.”
Let’s see if you can ever make a cogent point before dying?
Watch out OI, ‘cleo will fuck you very much!
I suspected it was futile, but I’m just dying to find somebody on the left who will actually talk about issues, rather than starting with or quickly decaying to a screeching poo-flinger.
Shut up, you slut!
I used to think of it as performance art, but it has passed way beyond.
If this blog is a community, then thor is the crazy homeless guy on the corner shouting incoherently and stinking of cheap wine and piss.
Except smellier.
All right, dammit. this comment was meant to be in answer to this comment.
As long as neither of those comments get deleted, I should be fine.
what is the over under on the amount of time it takes O! to flip on the Fairness Doctrine once he gets in office with strong Dem majorities?
Depends on if the dems get a super majority (veto-proof) in Congress.
Contrary to logic, I think it would become less of a priority in that case, in the short term.
They would have a couple of years, and it would be in the Progressive mindset to enjoy some humiliation of conservative talking heads first.
I give them an even year without a super-majority, 18 months with.
to follow up on my previous answer… the cspan youtube is here at roughly 1:33:00, McCain is either growing a somewhat tanned hand out of his back, or is engaged in an embrace with The One.
grrrr, it ate my c-span link. here: http://tinyurl.com/485b27
I just wanted to be comment #900. Squee!!!