Obama spokesman Robert Gibb claims on FOXNews that he doesn’t know the details of Senator Obama’s connection to William Ayers, whose radical terrorist organization, you’ll recall, was blowing shit up when Obama was eight (including, if memory serves, a Pig of Color) — and Ayers himself being an unrepentant blower-up of shit all throughout his relationship with Obama, which Roger Simon notes stretches back at least 21 years.
During that time, Ayers has refused to apologize for his domestic terrorism (in fact, he brags about how he got away with it), has given interviews to Communist publications, has laid out the New Left (read: socialist / progressive) ideas of political “education” through his “small schools,” and has trampled on the American flag (in 2001).
During these more recent events, he was — without a doubt — already connected to Obama through working relationships and what a mutual friend, Dr Quentin Young, described as a “casual friendship.” Obama wrote a glowing blurb for Ayers’ radical book on “education” (hey, kids! The personal is the political! Which I’ll explain later. In the meantime, though, just memorize this list of oppressors, beginning with the Establishment!”), Michelle O! tapped Ayers to speak at a gathering she put together (the school paper, who ran a notice, seemed to know of Ayers’ past; raising the question, what papers and magazines does Obama read?), and Obama funneled millions of dollars through his “executive experience” with CAC to Ayers — though I’m sure that had nothing of a quid pro quo to it; after all, Ayers was in the habit of elevating community organizers to executive roles — something he enjoyed doing in between shows of flag desecration and scraping his girlfriend off the walls of a Greenwich Village brownstone.
May I make a suggestion to both Mr Gibb and Mr Obama — both of whom are suggesting that they knew nothing of Ayers’ violent past (even though he was in the habit of talking about it, and the press in the habit of writing about it)?
Rent this. So that you don’t come off sounding so disingenuous as this:
You’ll thank me later. With, like, flowers though, okay? Explosives are just so late 60s…
Lili Taylor is demented and skanky looking.
No one, including Obama himself, knows the details about who or what Obama knows.
Now that’s change with heretofore unknown details that you can believe in!
Who IS this guy?
That is not the Baracky that Baracky knew. Under the back of the bus with you. Now!
But also M’chelle has been a lot disappeared it seems lately. She doesn’t help Baracky look less radical is why I think. She’s sort of scary angry and people just get that. Hispanics in particular seem to really dislike her.
Rev. Wright who’s dat, Ayers, throw your hands in the Ayer, Ayer, Ayer, Ayeer.
Barack Obama? I barely know the guy. I think we both belonged to the same neighborhood association, or something, but that’s about it.
Anyone want to bet on if the press will just swallow this or there will be a follow up question? My money is on them swallowing it whole and regurgitating it with some left over NewYorkTimes.
Here is what I wonder. Baracky, The Lightworker, is supposed to be this intellectual, a thinker. How in the fuck can he claim, with a straight face, that he did not know who Bill Ayers was, and what he had done? If we accept that as true, that he did not know who Bill Ayers was, does that not completely debunk the idea that Baracky is anything but an incurious partisan hack? Assuming, arguendo, that Baracky did not know who Ayers was, what did he do once he found out?
Again, it seems that Ayers was not thrown under the back of the bus until it was politically expedient to do so, on the national stage, much like Rev. God damn America Wright.
It would help if he had any normal friends at all. Baracky is a profoundly alienated person I think.
How about the overt lie from Axelrod that Baracky and Ayers’ kids just went to school together?
Look. We’re not ‘detail’ people. We’re ‘big picture’ people. Details are for rubes.
Baracky pimps his little girls out way more than normal people would I think.
“It would help if he had any normal friends at all”
Indeed.
Could this guy even pass a TS with poly?
“Barack old bean! Bill Ayres, give me some skin. I’m so glad you could come to this little political kickoff. Let me show you around. Here’s a sculpture I had commissioned. It’s a representation of how the man has been holding us down. There’s bits of real policeman in it, so you know it’s good. Can I get you a coaster? These are made of Semtex so be careful.”
Hell during the interview they listed Rage Against the Machine as anti-American propaganda. I wonder what they would have thought had I told them I hung out with a domestic terrorist who had just gotten me a high paying job?
Ayers in The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001: “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.â€Â
But they only went out for coffee, or something.
Mr. Pink – Wouldn’t it be hysterical if Sen. McCain asked Baracky if he would be willing to submit to a security clearance screening prior to the election?
Who is Obama? His own words say more than any association with Ayers.
JD he would just lie, remember Kerry saying he would release his service records then never doing it.
Barack was only 39 or so when Mr. Ayer’s reaffirmed his fidelity to the WU and its mission. He was also only 42 or so when Rezko donated to his Senate Campaign and even younger when Rezko did that nifty land swap with him. Stop teh LIEZ!
Oh, heck JD, let’s give ’em at least a little credit, since the statement was “they attended the same school” while carefully leaving the “time” they attended the school out of the statement so that cursory viewers could conclude the wrong thing (they attended “together”) while the spokesmen could refer back to their clever ellipsis and say, “we never said together”.
“Wouldn’t it be hysterical if Sen. McCain asked Baracky if he would be willing to submit to a security clearance screening prior to the election?”
That’s racism, I think, like when the store clerk follows a Flavor Flav! looking mofo around the store.
Wouldn’t it be hysterical if Sen. McCain asked Baracky if he would be willing to submit to a security clearance screening prior to the election?
Why would Obama need to have security clearance in order to be president?
It’s because he’s black, isn’t it?
Barack knows what Ayers is. Barack just didn’t know that was a problem.
Barack doesn’t know what he really should have known, and still doesn’t.
The dude is out of touch – ivory tower clueless.
Oh, for shame! #22 should be “Ayers” and not “Ayer’s.” But you knew that, didn’t you?
In order to describe the way that O! & Co are trying to really play this one, I’ll have to resort to a Western analogy…
They want to cast Ayers in the role of the former villain who goes off to a new place, where he is unknown, and becomes a force for good, much like bank robber turned Marshall Mark Strett in the Gregory Peck movie, “The Gunfighter”. The inference is that by being good for so long, all the intervening years following his dastardly crimes, he is effectively rehabilitated…
By this logic, maybe someone should inform the Israeli government that they were wrong to go after all those former Nasis…
Just another reason in the mind of O! that Joooooooooos need to be taken down a few pegs; after they vote for him…
The whole notion that Ayers is repentant is poppycock; he said himself he wish he’d done more. And, the specious, risable, suggestion that he has somehow paid his debt to society is more BS; he got off on a technicality and never actually was judged, either fairly or otherwise, by a jury of his peers vis-a-vis his actions with the Weathermen!
And, the notion the O! the benevolent was completely unaware of Ayers’ status in Chicago, or his former activities, could only be true in an alternate universe.
In the hipster, ultra-left, world of Chicago politics not only was Ayers a infamously-famous, radical-chic, playah; but he was the scion of one of the actual movers and shakers of Chicago politics, Tom Ayers-CEO of commonwealth Edison. And that, cheel-run, goes a long way to explain how Billy Ayers got so far into Chicago Politics and the University of Illinois; it’s no surprise that in the birthplace of Kwanzaa, a made up secular, or at best animist, holiday, and one of the early incubators of identity politics and multi-culturalism could moral relativism be taken to extreme and a man like Bill Ayers considered repentant.
O! & Co are once again obfuscating on this one, hoping that no one recalls the Philly debate answer of Ayers “Being just a guy in my neigborhood”, and trying to run the clock out with a lead. While I personally think that Mav’s tactic should favor linking O! to the obstructionist Dems protection of Fannie/Freddie over the years, a little dialogue on O!s sketchy friends can’t hurt.
If they talk about it enough, even Eugene Robinson will have to cover it. And, after a while, the “above my pay grade” answer will wear thin and the public will want some answers.
It appears, judging solely from the CNN report aired on Anderson Cooper’s show last night, that Alice Palmer has decided now is a good time to take a tiny bit of flesh back from Sen. Obama for the hurt he done her way back when she changed her mind about keeping her seat in the Illinois Senate and Obama steamrolled her for her trouble.
Obama’s camp wanted it known that the Obama campaign launch held at the Ayers house back in ’95 was Alice Palmer’s doing, she organized it without input from Obama, who now claims he didn’t “really” know who Ayers was back then.
Palmer, however, now says “Who? Me? I had nothing to do with putting that old thing together. I was just invited to attend, went for a while, stayed briefly and then went home.”
Ooh, payback, she’s a bitch.
I am pretty sure they would ping him as soon as he said “I did not know he had commited domestic terrorism.”
FWIW – I already denounced myself.
Baracky has told an uncommon lot of lies in a very short space of time.
ThomasD at #26 nails it. This isn’t a big deal for Obama, or his disciples, because they feel the same way. Sure, Obama wouldn’t bomb anything (his disciples probably would/will) but ideology? Fuck it. They agree with Ayers. I know this stuff is for people who don’t know it, but what frightens me is that there are far too many people that share Ayers, and Obama’s sentiments. Some of them comment on this very blog.
Well, we’ll see if the gloves are really off tonight. I have my doubts about JMac. Still.
This is most certainly not helping Michelle keep fresh fruit in the house for their children. This is nothing but a distraction from Baracky’s message of hope and change, you racists.
Unaccounted for by those who are trying to make this explicit, Obama’s being an Ayers protege, is that a huge percentage of voters, hearing of this for the first time now, are going to be way into it — not in a way they’ll acknowledge, but in a way that’s powerfully motivating. (Which posts draw the trolls?)
Having a clean-hands role in the empowerment of murderers gives people an intense thrill up the brain stem, and the layers of rationalization that cover that thrill can be argued against (however fruitlessly), but that thrill is, fundamentally, what voting is. The monstrous heart of representative politics shouldn’t be stirred carelessly.
It wasn’t for no reason that Obama’s people chose for him — or, at the very least, didn’t avoid choosing for him — a running mate whose name’s addition to all his signs and bumper stickers would trigger a subconscious incantation of “Osama Bin Laden” in everyone who sees them. It’s the same reason his opponents don’t point it out. You know. You might not know you know, but you know.
These WU body counts and flag-stomping-in-a-red-star-teeshirt photos and Dohrn-hearts-Manson quotes and “I was nine when the Weather Underground tried to murder me” stories are not doing what you want. Effectively, you’re running an Obama vote drive. You’re tickling the monster.
I’m not saying don’t do it. (I’m too fatalistic to care.) But know what you’re doing.
I’m still stuck on the fact Ben Smith of Politico was able to puzzle out the simple math problem presented by Axelrod to explain the O/A’s relationship, that Obama’s young girls go to school “together” with Ayers’ grown children.
WASN”T able to puzzle out
I hear what you’re saying, psycho, but I’d respond that Obama already has those votes shored up.
Many “undecideds” and “independents” and more mainstream Dems who had family who fought in Vietnam might not get that same thrill. And it is the late-to-the-scene voters in that demographic that are being properly targeted by all this.
If you can guilt someone into pulling the lever because a candidate is black, you can perhaps reverse that guilt vote by showing that, yeah, he’s black — but he also hangs out with Bill Ayers, not Bill Cosby.
It’s really fun to watch the O! team squirm and wiggle as they try to explain their way out of the Ayers connection. As I said when Sarah was chosen by McCain, she needs to keep dropping these little hand grenades on the O! campaign to keep them off balance.
I’d second that the people that get a thrill from blowing up ‘pigs’ are already decided.
Like Jeff says, this might convince some people that were otherwise ok with checking a box that they might not want to.
The big question I think I have is, how will he handle it, AND
if he were to toss Ayers under the bus, would it piss the radicals off?
Excellent point Mr. Reed. Once again the party of the ‘little people’ turns out to really be the party that will sell America out for the right price.
Call me cynical, but whenever Axelturd puts a blatant lie out there like this, I figure it’s too cover other things they don’t want anyone to pursue.
We now have the NY Times referring to Ayers as a “school reformer,” and CNN scratching its head last night, trying to figure out how he couldn’t have known — but in the end, rendering Ayers harmless, with the same PC tag of “school reformer.”
Sol Stern, pretty much in synch with Steve Diamond, has layed it on the line: It’s more important to ask what is Ayers doing now? What is his educational philosophy? As Stern says, “Calling Bill Ayers a school reformer is a bit like calling Joseph Stalin an agricultural reformer.”
Perhaps Obama saw Ayers as Ayers sees himself:
Ayers, “distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.”
psycho’s point is well taken… although in reality all he is doing is explicating one of the mechanisms that result in the Hollywood axiom “There’s no such thing as bad publicity.” The vast majority of people, so I’m convinced, will go into the voting booth with no real idea of what it’s all about, and will look at the list and say to themselves, “Ah, I recognize that name.” That appears to be more or less what thor has been driving at, to the extent he can manage coherence. The name “John McCain” is already familiar to most voters. If the unfamiliar can even manage to recognize the name “Barack Obama” the campaign is ahead on points.
Regards,
Ric
JimK is off base. The Ayers story is obviously both important and compelling; it will come out. What we are seeing now is a deliberate attempt to draw its fangs. The Obama campaign staff, masquerading as “The Press”, is doling it out in bits and pieces with maximum obfuscation, reasoning that some discomfort is inevitable, and it is better to get it over with (with as much palliative as can be managed) and out of the way.
Don’t remember where I read it but it’s right.
When talking about Obama and his dealings with Wright, Ayers, Rezko we need to refrain from referring to them as “Obama’s association with …” or “Obama’s connection with…”
That opens it up to countercharges of “Guilt by association tactics”
It should be referred to as Obama’s alliance with Ayers, etc. What else is launching one’s political career in someone’s home than an alliance?
“kill him”
fucking pathetic
Once again, how sad is it that when Obama coasts into the White House with 340 Electoral Votes, the loons here will be shaking their heads wondering why everyone in America except for themselves belongs to the lunatic fringe.
BTW
McCain is a lot closer to G. Gordon Liddy than Obama is to Ayers, for the record. Charles Keating caused a lot more damage domestically than Bill Ayers, for the record.
Did Bill Ayers get arrested for a felony like G. Gordon Liddy? Isn’t he an American citizen with fully restored rights under the law? Then what the fuck does his geographical proximity to Obama have to do with the character of Obama?
There is no indication EVER that Obama has been connected with any underground, subversive or Anti-American activities. Unlike Sarah Palin who is married to a man who supported Alaska’s secession from the US.
But what the hell, right?
It’s not actual shit that people do – it is just generic shit that you want to throw at Obama.
But THAT is why it doesn’t stick – because you’re not saying things about what he did.
Because its just not there.
Sash can you name for me one issue on which Ayers and Obama disagree? You know besides the whole bombing the Pentagon thing.
did you really ask this? where exactly is this “record” you keep talking about?
right, he hasn’t done anything. so we have to look at his associates to guess at his judgment. it’s not looking so good.
Where did you get that “kill him” from, you mendacious shitbag? I did a search on this thread and find nothing, so you dream it up in your otherwise empty head and then drop it here with an accusatory tone?
If stupid were sunshine, we could set up a couple solar panels in front of sashal’s last comment and electrify a large chunk of the rural Midwest.
I am sure Ayers goes for Cubs and Barack for White Sox.
Any more idiotic questions?
Let me hear from you on the disagreements between McCAin and anti-American felon Liddy.
or how about this?:
GOP presidential nominee John McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair.
McCain’s ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago.
The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.
The council’s founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.
“McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes,” Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. “I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn’t left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated.
“I don’t recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group,” Singlaub said.
The renewed attention over McCain’s association with Singlaub’s group comes as McCain’s campaign steps up criticism of Obama’s dealings with William Ayers, a college professor who co-founded the Weather Underground and years later worked on education reform in Chicago alongside Obama. Ayers held a meet-the-candidate event at his home when Obama first ran for public office in the mid-1990s.
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Obama was roughly 8 years old when Ayers, now at the University of Illinois at Chicago, was working with the Weather Underground, which took responsibility for bombings that included nonfatal blasts at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol. McCain’s vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, has said that Obama “pals around with terrorists.”
In McCain’s case, Singlaub knew McCain’s father, a Navy admiral who had sought Singlaub’s counsel when McCain, a Navy pilot, became a prisoner of war and spent 5 1/2 years in North Vietnamese hands.
“John’s father asked me for advice about what he ought to do now that his son had been shot down and captured,” Singlaub recalled in one of two recent interviews. “I said, ‘As long as you don’t give any impression that you care more about him than you care about any of the other prisoners, he won’t be treated any differently.'”
Covert arms shipments to the rebels called Contras, financed in part by secret arms sales to Iran, became known as the Iran-Contra affair. They proved to be the undoing of Singlaub’s council.
In 1987, the Internal Revenue Service withdrew the tax-exempt status of Singlaub’s group because of its activities on behalf of the Contras.
Elected to the House in 1982 and at a time when he was on the board of Singlaub’s council, McCain was among Republicans on Capitol Hill expressing support for the Contras, a CIA-organized guerrilla force in Central America. In 1984, Congress cut off CIA funds for the Contras.
Months before the cutoff, top Reagan administration officials ramped up a secret White House-directed supply network and put National Security Council aide Oliver North in charge of running it. The goal was to keep the Contras operational until Congress could be persuaded to resume CIA funding.
Singlaub’s private group became the public cover for the White House operation.
Secretly, Singlaub worked with North in an effort to raise millions of dollars from foreign governments.
McCain has said previously he resigned from the council in 1984 and asked in 1986 to have his name removed from the group’s letterhead.
“I didn’t know whether (the group’s activity) was legal or illegal, but I didn’t think I wanted to be associated with them,” McCain said in a newspaper interview in 1986.
Singlaub does not recall any McCain resignation in 1984 or May 1986. Nor does Joyce Downey, who oversaw the group’s day-to-day activities.
“That’s a surprise to me,” Singlaub said. “This is the first time I’ve ever heard that. There may have been someone in his office communicating with our office.”
“I don’t ever remember hearing about his resigning, but I really wasn’t worried about that part of our activities, a housekeeping thing,” said Singlaub. “If he didn’t want to be on the board that’s OK. It wasn’t as if he had been active participant and we were going to miss his help. He had no active interest. He certainly supported us.”
Why McCain is associated with fascists and anti-semites?
He is speaking about one man at a Palin rally shouting out “kill him” when she mentioned Ayers. Which is one guy that Palin doesn’t know out of a rally of thousands. That should impugn everyone on the right in his estimation. Then he goes on the explain to us that Obama, who was actively working for a man who did “kill them”, has nothing to do with that man and should not reflect on him at all.
You know sashal is a walking talking load of hypocracy.
I am laughing at your whine, alp, I am seriously.
Unfortunately, you will have to wait some time, may be the next election, before GOP will be able to inflict any more damage on the country
ah, so the usual “arguing with the imaginary”.
Sashal can you explain how one person yelling something at a Palin rally is something to bitch about but how someone in another political party actually working to implement the agenda of a domestic terrorist is not? Really I want to hear this one. Not.
Then he goes on the explain to us that Obama, who was actively working for a man who did “kill themâ€Â, has nothing to do with that man and should not reflect on him at all.
lies does not become you, Pink
what’s the lie there, sashal?
keep instigate the dupes, Pink, keep instigate unrest and murderous instincts.
that’s what your fucking lying slime for a candidate is doing…
the lie is that Obama worked for the killer
I am laughing at your whine, alp, I am seriously.
Is “whine” Russian for “hilarious comical comedy”?
Pink, do you think the mainstream right wing should embrace someone that wanted to bomb the Brookings Institute and kidnap Americans? How about the mainstream right wing promoting someone that describes a judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew, who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race.”
I have yet to see a mainstream Democrat embrace or promote Bill Ayers. I have seen a life long Republican and friend of Ronald Reagan fund Bill Ayers. I’ve also seen mainstream Republicans embracing G. Gordon Liddy and the mainstream Republican news source promoting Andy Martin.
“keep instigate the dupes, Pink, keep instigate unrest and murderous instincts.
that’s what your fucking lying slime for a candidate is doing…”
Oh yes I read that article Sashal. I forgot where though or I would link to it. It has all about how McCain and Palin are inciting murder because one man yelled out “kill him” when she mentioned Ayers at a rally. Do you have any opinion that isn’t lifted off some left wing blogsite? Ayers did not just yell out “kill him” he tried to kill. His group did “kill him” Saying he is not a killer is like saying Osama bin Ladin did not actually kill anyone.
sashal has twisted off lately. People confident in their candidate don’t twist off like that. You know what I think is causing this? When McCain hit home about Baracky acting like a starlet. Baracky had to scale back on his Che Guevara glamour and iconography and his Hugo Chavez-style rallies and it’s left a big emptiness in his Baracky voters. They wants to worship his Barackyness but Baracky won’t let them have it no more.
um, you are aware he worked with the CAC and Ayers was the head of that?
Never heard of the mayor of Chicago, Richard J. Daley, you mendacious creep?
Do not bother maggie. He makes the same assertions every time he comes on here. Then the next time he will come on here and act like he read nothing and absorbed nothing. So you can argue with him for an hour and you just come back to your starting point every single time.
okay, this is getting hilarious. like “JJ” yesterday, sashal doesn’t see stuff, so of course it must not exist.
“You know sashal is a walking talking load of hypocracy.”
No, Mr. Pink, Sashal is a loon. And he’s still drunk. Take a breather, sashal. Dry out for a while. Oh and for goodness sake, just admit that you’re a proggressive socialist wananbe and get it over with. The Taki links are fine and all, but they’re BS. Hating McCain and Bush is one thing, but lapping at O!’s balls is quite another. Now put the vodka down, comrade.
McCain’s father-in-law, whose fortune helped financed his campaigns, and whom he has described as a role model, was a convicted criminal who had ties to organized crime.
Michelle Obama also disagrees with you on that whole promoting Bill Ayers thingy.
64 sorry, what the factual info and where it came from has to do with the facts that the slime is inciting the crowds?
or here
“you mendacious creep”
Sdferr, you forgot drunk. Sashal is a mendacious drunken creep. Or is it a mendacious creepy drunk?
What’s the Russian word for “unhinged”, comrade sasha? Is it really true there are over 37 words in the Russian language for “vodka”?
So again instead of refuting anything you simply resort to “Mommy but Timmy did it too” in hopes that you can change the conversation. How about this one. O! worked alongside someone who tried to commit murder, treason, and sedition against the US government and it’s citizens. He is still trying to the second two, but stopped the first two. O! did not have any problem with that because he agrees with Ayers ideology. He agrees with Rev. Wright’s ideology. Both of those characters are unelectable in America because they do not have a blank background, an eager and pliant MSM, and David Axlerod. Obama has those things going for him unfortunately.
yea, I know that you think that Obama is planning to blow up the world…starting with America…he is planning to run it into the ground and finish what GW has started…
any more lies ?
any fuckintg proof for this idiotic statement?
O! did not have any problem with that because he agrees with Ayers ideology
He stopped the first one sorry my writing isn’t that good either.
Yeah, well sorry I lost my equipoise there for a bit OI. I don’t know about this creep and his drinking, but I can tell you I don’t cotton to his lying style.
Well if you can prove where they do not share the same left wing ideology I am all ears. Seems to me they do.
yea, I know that you think that Obama is planning to blow up the world…starting with America
not for nuthin sash, but you blow up America, you’ve pretty much blown up the world. Look around.
Shorter wingnut: “Lies, Smears, Ignorance Our Only Hope”
sorry, Pink.
Burden of proof is on you, ain’t you an American?
Do you not know how that works?
shorter sashal: Hey! is that a rabbit over there?
Well Ayers and Obama agree on the correct way to raise our children that is for sure.
And teach.
sashal, the only one who has lied about William Ayers is Baracky and his acolyte people. It’s really all true and even Anderson Cooper made a frowny face cause of how if Baracky got to be president we’d be electing someone to the presidency who would fail a standard background check if he wanted to make charts or order office supplies for the CIA or the FBI. It’s weird.
I feel sorry for you sashal. So in the tank you have to actually defend the actions of a domestic terrorist.
Obama is now firmly stuck with this “story” that he didn’t know about Ayers terrorist history. He can’t walk it back that I can see, at least not without doing permanent crippling damage to his main guys Axelrod and Gibbs.
So, the pertinent questions are on the order of
1)How could you be so uninformed?,
2)When did you learn that B. Ayers and B. Dohrn were terrorist bombers who had declared war on the USA and what did you do to separate yourself from them then and condemn their heinous acts?,
3)You didn’t separate yourself from them? How is that possible?, and
4)Who else that hates the USA have you been or are you now allied with in your quest to become President of the USA?
Sdferr, in asnwer to 2 I’m guessing 2005
They have “reclarified” their answer now.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Learning_about_Ayers.html#comments
Thanks maggie and Pink.
There are parts to query 2, maggie, and the answer Pink points to, post 1995 party at Ayers house, doesn’t even begin to answer the second half of 2, not to mention the big FAIL on Q 1. It starts to look like he’s going to have to answer Q 3, which won’t be too pleasant for him, I think.
no, see, he found out in 2005 and quit calling and emailing him.
I would like to, but don’t, get your meaning maggie, in light of the Pink link:
unless we are to stretch Axelrod’s “sometime after” from 1995 to 2005, or ten years, which is kinda way stretchy.
well, O! has demonstrated he’s a pretty flexible guy. otherwise how do you get this statement?
This situation reminds me of the first week when the Rev. Wright stuff came out. Obama comes out gives this speech saying “I can not disown him”. People in the press and leftist on the internet united to spread the information “What Wright said wasn’t that bad”. They went out of their way to point out the Tuskagee experiment and how it is not that big of a stretch for him to say the US government invented AIDS. They went out of their way to excuse his other idiocies by saying that was all part of the traditional “black church” and Rev. Wright had real reasons to be angry at the US government and white people.
The next week Wright goes before the National Press club and repeats what he had said every week in church. Obama considers this a good time to disown him so he does. This is now not the Rev. Wright he knew. Now the press, and leftists on the internet, can dutifully go out and spread HIS word. In doing so though they just have to call themselves liars because they have just spent the last week defending this kind of speach. Both actors proceed to basically throw themselves under the bus with a smile.
What I am getting at sashal is I believe you are in the first stage of this replay. You should skip to stage two and just go play in traffic and hope a school bus hits you.
Oh yeah I forget Rev. Wright was a marine. I remember that used in his defense quite a bit.
One problem with your otherwise plausible “repeat of RevWright scenario”, Pink, is the presence of J. McC. on the stage with Obama as Obama attempts to put the question to bed. J McC can insist on keeping the question straight and further insisting on a straight answer to it. Kinda complicates the complicit media’s job, though not beyond hope for the One.
If you want to read some real Krazy, people fluent in moonbat and twatwaffle, go read the comments at Mr. Pink’s link in #92.
So, Baracky, the intellectual heavyweight had no idea who Bill Ayers was. So much for an Ivy League education. This leads me to my next question. When Baracky found out that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist, what was his reaction? What did he do?
I see the Sashal Sockpuppet made another bombing run here today.
Yawn.
#10 haps:
I think ‘self-alienated’ is the term, because he said that he went out of his way in university to find certain people to be friends with, not ‘casual friends with the guy on your dorm floor’ or ‘casual friends with a neighbor’. Sought them out.
Course you knew that.
For someone who used to complain about ‘bolshevik influence’ on the US government, Sashal has no problem supporting someone who is friends with an actual bolshevik.
Sahal, if you just want to cuss at people, go somewhere else.
Or at least use some of those zillions of Russian cuss words so we can learn something semi-useful from you.
Sashal,
A couple of points…
Did Bill Ayers get arrested for a felony like G. Gordon Liddy? Isn’t he an American citizen with fully restored rights under the law?…
As a matter of fact he did, he just got off on a technicality…
“There is no indication EVER that Obama has been connected with any underground, subversive or Anti-American activities…”
Frank Davis…ACORN…Democratic Party…
Thank you for playing
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