An interesting thread at the Hillary Clinton forum that could provide some insight into how the Obama campaign burned a few electoral bridges:
We watched in horror as you told your base that they were no longer needed and that we could just “stay home”. We watched in stunned outrage when you were silent on sexism and propelled the race card.
You called us uneducated, old, blue collar, gun toters, clingers, not urban, souless, clueless, and basically threw us to the dogs. You told us to shut up, get over it and fall in line.
Many of us have donated, work hard for the DNC for years if not decades. We have been true blue loyal and you not only turned your backs on us, you did everything in your power to humiliate us. We are over it. We will not be back as long as the DNC is being run by a bunch of left wing zealots. We will not stay home and we will not vote Democrat this year. What a bummer, huh?
GET OVER IT!
PUMA!
Read the follow-up replies, nearly each of which is “down” with this “sister”.
Sarah Palin, feminist hero.
— Today, Sprockets, we will dance…!
(h/t BRM)
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Top Hillary Supporter Endorses McCain (via IP)
Live by identity politics, die by identity politics.
It would be nice if this were indeed to spell the end of identity politics as a significant force in American life. I dare not hope for it.
After all, I kept hoping McCain would pick a decent, genuine conservative for his ticket and look how that turned out.
(Heh.)
While I’m not familiar with that forum, it was interesting to me how many of the posters in that thread had > 1000 posts. These aren’t just driveby concern trolls.
Same here, McGehee. I didn’t think it would happen, and yet, here we are.
WEll, I’m back, after a weekend of driving, sunset watching, fossil hunting, bird watching (a merganser fishing), beer and wine drinking and birthday candle blowing out.
Some fun, eh?
so, any more 1000 comment threads?
Yeah,but did you bag a moose?
Oh, now that’s funny.
McGeehee, I think it does spell the end of the legitimacy of much of feminist identity politics. The eager excommunication of Palin from the female brand by the same women who tell us nothing is more important than gender, reveals, as Jeff has said more eloquently, feminism in service of politics is largely horseshit.
For the likes of Feministe and Pandagon, the important part of feminist outrage is in delivering the votes. The principles of the thing don’t matter so much as long as your man gets the power.
That is not to say that all feminists are unprincipled powermongers. Extra points to Camille Paglia and Geraldine Ferraro for sticking to their guns, despite political disagreements with Palin.
To the eager beavers who rushed out the door with the Patriarchal Woman nametag for Palin, congratulations on delegitimizing forty years of female progress. You’ve walked yourself back a long way, baby!
Well, I don’t blame them their anger. Hillary did get kind of a raw deal and Obamas supporters are fairly misogynist.
Feminism is like Christianity and punk rock. No matter how many times they’re declared dead, they never seem to belly up.
A lot of illegitimate things continue to be forces to be reckoned with in this country. I don’t want merely to see identity politics delegitimized. I want it dead. I want its family dead. I want its neighbors and its co-workers DEAD!
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Not that I feel strongly about it or anything.
I just thought I’d share this while the thread is young. Posted at LGF yesterday:
“Comment by Diana on 9/1 @ 12:46 pm #
Yeah,but did you bag a moose?”
No, I got bagged AT the Moose.
Welcome to the Dark Side, my feminist sisters…
Jeff
Found this on FARK
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-sound-off-what-would-you-do-if-you-had-a-penis-for-a-day/
Fairly?
“Those evil reich-whingers! How dast they pick a, a (I can’t even say it!), a CONSERVATIVE! And a female conservative at that! Those BASTARDS!”
I may have paraphrased, but that’s the gist.
brb I’m going to Starbucks
Starbucks? Don’t you like coffee?
Heehee!
I believe that Heinlein suggested abortion should be retroactive to the age of 18 at the request of either parent or a majority of the neighbors. Some days I have a hard time arguing with that..
O! told the to “get over it”…
Brazile told them that they weren’t needed, there was a “new” Democrat coalition…
Michelle O! said, with surety, that Hillary voters would always vote for O!, but never vice versa…
And Howard Dean and the superdelegates of the Dems, talking with their votes, told them that the race card trumped the gender card in the stacked identity politics deck; in the words of Wesley Snipe’s character in “Passenger 57”-“Always bet on BLACK !!!”
And now, McCain is telling him that he welcomes them into the big tent of the real post-identity politics bunch…
MAVERICK !!!
Bob Reed: “And now, McCain is telling him that he welcomes them into the big tent of the real post-identity politics bunch…
MAVERICK !!!”
I gather it was Barry’s first time on a riverboat…
Palin is just a ploy by the GOP to get the old white women who supported Hillary to betray the Democratic Party and vote for McCain.
I call this block the Pendulumous Vote. These are old white women – 18 million of them = 36 million pendulums. Palin herself is plenty saggy after 5 sprogs.
Obama will win easily without having to appease the Pendulumous Vote. We don’t need them, they can go back to talking about menopause and measuring who has the longest, thinnest tits.
oh, so we’re just comment spamming now. okay.
Apparently we didn’t swoon sufficiently before its righteous truthiness the first time around.
Wait… so the ‘dillo’s name is “Sprockets”? Cool, learn something every day.
Obama Wins has got to be a Republican moby: not even a KosKid or a kiloposter at DU could be that bigoted, arrogant, and nasty.
Nah, what “Obama Wins” has been saying is pretty much in line with what thor’s been saying. The tone’s pretty much dead-on.
I spent some time reading comments on that Hillary site and I have to say that I’m impressed.
They we’re without a doubt scorned by the far left kooks and stood by watching both the media and Obama and his supporters just tear down their canidate…. Hillary.
They even had what looks like a mass campaign contributions going to the Mcain/Palin ticket in the amount of $20.12 (to designate Hillary running in 2012), and where the form asked if a friend sent them to the campaign website the put in Hillary Clinton.
All I can say to these Hillary voters is welcome, I appreciated your support in this election and Kudos on their snowballing websight(it is a breath of fresh air compared to other opponents websights…that’s for sure)….job well done.
That is such a bullshit meme. But keep the delusion alive right?
LMAO!!!
I saw Obama Wins’s ridiculousity elsewhere (can’t recall where) a couple of days ago. If I hadn’t rememberizeded the general tonousness, I would certainly have rememberizeded the pendulumousness of it.
[…] First, there are many potentially negative disclosures about Governor Palin that are, as I noted earlier — and as Palin supporters (and principled journalists) have made clear — fair game, and that should in good conscience be explored by a conscientious, objective, fact-seeking media. So it is simply dishonest of Mr Silver to suggest that the “right” believes “any and all bad news or negative disclosures” are the result of some conspiracy. And in fact, such an argument tells us more about Mr Silver’s biases than it does about the rather diverse group of folk who are supporting Governor Palin, from social conservatives and GOP faithful, to right leaning libertarians and disaffected Hillary Democrats. […]