Just One Minute’s Tom Maguire flags a metaphor from Larisa Alexrandnova’s supposed rebuttal of Jonah Goldberg’s essay on Obama’s patriotism problem::
A mother of a heroin addict, for example, is critical of her child’s drug abuse and wants it to stop. The mother wants only the best for her child. Does the mother’s criticism of the child’s actions in any way illustrate that she does not love her child? On the contrary, it is because the mother loves her child and is devoted to her child that she wants her child to be better, greater than he/she is.
TM has great fun mocking this metaphor on its face, but the metaphor fails for reasons beyond the fact that it would be political death to any candidate uttering it.
First, anyone with even indirect experience with crack addicts can tell you that crack addiction becomes the identity of the addict. A true crack addict is either taking crack, or figuring out where he or she is getting the next bit of crack. Thus, the metaphor concedes that the progressive version of patriotism sees an America defined and consumed by its faults.
Second, the progressive view of American history — as promulgated by Howard Zinn and the like — is that the country has always been been defined by its faults. Yet crack babies are born to crack mothers. A progressive could (and often does) fault Europe as the crack mother, but Alexrandnova has the progressive pencilled in as the mother in this metaphor. While it might not be difficult to find a progressive crack mother in the real world, it really does not work in the metaphor.
Update: In the comments, I am taken to task for jumping for heroin to crack. Fair enough, to the extent heroin is not crack. But the average heroin addict spends between $150 and $200 per day to maintain a heroin addiction. So the notion of the presumably proggressive commenter that there are many heroin addicts who are not defined and consumed by their addiction is more of a stretch than jumping rhetorically from heroin to crack.
Okay, NOW I’m mad. ;-P
Clarice says the sweetest things really.
Wow. That’s high praise, indeed, considering the source. Thanks, hf.
Seriously strained metaphor.
Half the time, Leftards theorize citizens are akin to retarded offspring, with government in the role of Benevolent Parent.
The other half, the government is the retarded offspring [if Republican, of course] while the citizens are the Benevolent Parent.
Which is all just revelatory of something or other that I can’t be bothered with ‘cuz I’m like eating paste and the keys are sticky.
well,I would agree that the metaphor was “unartful”
But Larissa gave a great rebuttal to that clown Jonah , who should really get a medal for extreme stupidity or something
the best was this:
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/jonah-goldberg.html
You’re right Karl. Your point applies equally well to meth addicts. I’ve bluntly told the parents of raging meth addicts that they need to accept that the child they once knew is gone, and the person in that body is is a stranger to them. I believe that drugs like meth and crack turn people into zombies.
I doubt Alexrandnova consciously intended her analogy to strech that far, but you make a good point that if we pursue her logic a little further than she did we find that she is describing a country that is superficially similar to one she once loved, but irredeemably lost.
This is still going on?
There’s no basis for a McCain-v.-Obama patriotism fight, because their “patriotism” is of the same kind. They’re proud of themselves, personally, and the government, in general, and they want to change you, Americans, because you disappoint and disobey them (both). Since they’d use the state, with which they both ego-identify to an insane degree, to change you, they’re “patriots.” You know, the kind who hate America.
If you’re still wondering why McCain never seems “get the message” on immigration, for example, it’s because you’re not getting his. He’s said it more than once: his “amnesty” (or whatever) is a rebuke to you, Americans, to your greed and racism, which rebuke should lead you not to ingratitude — or bitterness, say — but to a self-examination from which you will emerge, finally, as truly American. You know, like him. And his “colleagues.” And the ex-Mexicans who clean their pools without talking back.
There is no “progressive view of American history” Progressives want to view America as history!
Just between you and me I could care less about his stupid military experience. He’s not my hero. He will never be my hero. I have more better heroes than him. McCain is what you get when you scrape the bottom of the hero barrel I think.
“McCain is what you get when you scrape the bottom of the hero barrel I think.”
Not splinters?
Maybe I’m nitpicking, but you do realize that there’s a difference between crack and heroin, right?
Well, first, the actual metaphor used was heroin, not crack, and heroin users do show considerable self-awareness and, often, an urge to quit (that’s why they enter methadone programs). Second, the “crack baby” crisis was an urban legend fueled by conservative myth-making and racism. Third, whether or not any “crack babies” (or heroin babies, for that matter) are born addicted, the vast majority of addicts suffer from problems of their own making (and note that Alexandrovna never used the word “baby” at all). So your response to her criticism not only misquotes the central term in the one paragraph you cited, but misconstrues the example she uses, misrepresents the nature of the problem in the example, and repeats utterly irrelevant and utterly false propaganda as evidence against what was only intended as a metaphor to begin with. Other than that, you’re doing a heck of a job.
But as to one’s view of America – the issue that both Goldberg and Alexandrovna were actually addressing – it is also false that progressives see the country as “defined by” its faults. Rather, they see those faults as the aspects of the country that require attention – the things about America that Americans should keep in the foreground of their thinking about what our policies and projects should be.
That is no more than the moral observation that we are all ineluctably responsible for our faults – that we must all take responsibility for what we have done wrong and make amends for it, and work, if necessary, to ensure that those wrongs will not be repeated. It is morally unacceptable to be complacent about one’s own faults, and it is moral smugness of the most obnoxious kind to dismiss complaints about them by condescendingly telling one’s victims that they do not have the right to complain.
What is true for the individual is true for the nation as well: America has always been comfortable with its own faults, and quick to congratulate itself for its occasional attempts to rectify them. With each such attempt, the country has declared that, because we the beneficiaries of injustice are now satisfied that we have done enough to mediate our own faults, the case is closed; whatever steps we choose to take are a kind of martyrdom for which we deserve sympathy, and whatever unsatisfied complaints there may still be are ingratitude. (Consider the incessant whining over a bare two decades of “reverse discrimination”, or the complaints heard in the 90s over $20,000 reparations, 50 years late, to Japanese WWII internees.)
Anyone is entitled to pride in their own virtues and accomplishments – but no one is entitled to unilateral dismissal of their faults and wrongdoings. Where fault has been, amends must be made, and guilt must be acknowledged – not when it is comfortable, not when it is painless, not when one feels like it, or when enough time has passed that hardly anyone still remembers and we can just give some lip service to justice and sweep the whole thing under the rug. The moral obligation to stand up to one’s own faults is urgent and ever-present. Progressives want America to free itself of the guilt of its faults by repairing them, not denying them in the hopes they’ll be forgotten. That is a moral obligation, and it is also what is best for America. Conservative moral deafness and denial tarnishes the nation, and dooms it to eternal guilt when the opportunity for making amends slips into the past. Progressives want better than that for the nation, and they want the nation to be better than that. Progressivism, in this sense (and in keeping with Alexandrovna’s metaphor), is nothing more than moral adulthood. Conservative moral smugness is form of childish selfishness we can no longer honorably indulge in.
“Progressives want America to free itself of the guilt of its faults by repairing them, not denying them in the hopes they’ll be forgotten.”
America will never “free itself of the guilt of its faults” because you Proggs make your money America’s “guilt”. You all just Al Sharpton in whiteface.
I got so bored reading that, I almost missed the end:
Progressivism, in this sense (and in keeping with Alexandrovna’s metaphor), is nothing more than moral adulthood. Conservative moral smugness is form of childish selfishness we can no longer honorably indulge in.
Snicker. No really, snicker.
#12
Damn right! I can kick heroin anytime. That crack shit is crazy!
Coal makes us sick. We must free ourselves from our addiction to OIL.
Kevin is all full of that intentionalism and all and also full of shit. Do I hear the strains of the “Internationale”?
Oh jeez. I read that too, Carin. Baracky is so totally crack to these people. The withdrawal is gonna be hard and a lot painful and is it ok if I giggle?
What do we want?
Reparations!!!!
When do we want them?
Now and forever!!! Uhuru!!
(Rallying cry of the Greenshirt Fascisti – Obama Jugend Corps)
Comment by Kevin T. Keith on 7/2 @ 5:36 pm #
(Consider the incessant whining over a bare two decades of “reverse discriminationâ€Â, or the complaints heard in the 90s over $20,000 reparations, 50 years late, to Japanese WWII internees.)
I agree, white men in America should wait at least 200 years to complain about Affirmative Action. Seriously guys they had to deal with it that long so STFU.
I tried to limit myself to snickering, Happy. I mean, they take themselves so seriously… outright laughter may give them a complex.
This is very thought-provoking. Hah I’m just kidding.
F your reverse racism you fascists. If you could only apply those same standards to the Iraqi’s you bomb the world would be better off.
Kevin what would be the steps you would consider for America to make up for its faults? I would think Affirmative Action must continue for at least 50 years, and also start seriously considering boosting funding for the inner cities. Not just words mind you but having the suburbian population that had enough income to move away be taxed to work in the cities, sort of like a toll but an income toll. All money would be spent on inner city school programs and public housing. You have any ideas?
moral deafness and denial tarnishes the nation, and dooms it to eternal guilt
Now that’s patriotism!
Honestly, Proggs. I thought you were going to try to convince us you weren’t a parody?
(whoever this is, email me, and I’ll stop calling you out.)
Conservative moral deafness and denial tarnishes the nation, and dooms it to eternal guilt when the opportunity for making amends slips into the past
You know, the sad thing is I bet this guy got GREAT GRADES in college. All his professors LOVED him.
Comment by O! on 7/2 @ 6:05 pm #
moral deafness and denial tarnishes the nation, and dooms it to eternal guilt
Now that’s patriotism!
Well I only feel guilty when we start illegal wars for OIL.
I love Conflict Analysis 302. It was my favorite class.
. Not just words mind you but having the suburbian population that had enough income to move away be taxed to work in the cities, sort of like a toll but an income toll.
The funniest things is, they already DO this in Detroit. There is a 1.5 percent city income tax (versus 3 percent for city dwellers.)
You know, it works so fucking well, nimrod. Guess where companies don’t want to locate their businesses to save the workers from having to pay the tax? I’ll give you two guesses.
I think conservatives make Kieth’s vagina itch.
I condemn myself in every possible way.
“and also start seriously considering boosting funding for the inner cities. ”
I’m all for funding of carpet bombing.
Comment by Carin- on 7/2 @ 6:11 pm #
The funniest things is, they already DO this in Detroit. There is a 1.5 percent city income tax (versus 3 percent for city dwellers.)
You know, it works so fucking well, nimrod. Guess where companies don’t want to locate their businesses to save the workers from having to pay the tax? I’ll give you two guesses.
Well they need this money. You just do not like it cause urban dwellers vote overwhelmingly Democrat. The tax is not like the pork you Repubs shove into some unknown place in Alaska, it is actually HELPING people.
Well I only feel guilty when we start illegal wars for OIL.
Mr. Hero, don’t you know evil American imperialism extends far beyond Oil.
Consider the rape of Japan by the engorged, throbbing, American capitalism for example!
Proggs, you don’t get it. Companies relocate OUT of the city to avoid the tax. So revenues actually go DOWN. People who would live AND work in the city, don’t do either. You cannot tax the world into fairness. It just doesn’t work.
Well then raise the taxes in the suburbs Carin and send it to the inner city. Simple solution.
Take a lawyer, for example. He can work in the city or out of the city. Doesn’t make That big of a difference, except for the tax implications. If he worked IN the city, he might decide it would be cool to live in one of those swanky new lofts. But, he whips out his calculator, and sees how much it will cost him …
And opts for a flat in Grosse POinte, and a small office in St. Claire Shores.
Carin,
The sharp ones pass the Texas bar and move to Dallas.
Taxes are sent from the suburbs to the cities … in the form of State and Fed taxes.
I’ll give you a clue. Cities WASTE a shitload of money. It’s like a black-hole. You send them money from the ‘burbs, and all of the sudden Kwame’s got a new navigator for his wife, and they’re redoing all the offices in City Hall.
Small cities and suburbs are often much more accountable. They have an educated voter base that will -gasp- throw the crooks out instead of constantly giving them “one more chance.”
After all- “Kwame is OUR boy” was his re-election motto.
“#Comment by ProggressiveHero on 7/2 @ 6:20 pm #
Well then raise the taxes in the suburbs Carin and send it to the inner city.”
No just carpet bomb Prog enclaves.
Carin are we talking about our faults as a nation or taxes?
I have a question for you. Detroit fought for, and got casinos. Those three casinos are taxes (heavily) with that money earmarked for the city’s schools. It was to be “the solution” to the budget crises.
Where is all the money going?
The very founding of America was done with original sin, what with the making slaves dispose of the mountains of dead natives rotting from the white christians unconstitutional plunder of paradise.
America must be remade in my image, or die of it’s guilt.
“Second, the “crack baby†crisis was an urban legend fueled by conservative myth-making and racism.”
Which is why “right wing nutter” Dave Chapelle does a rif on being taken to the ghetto at three in the morning and seeing a baby standing by itself on the corner…and crack heads scurrying this way and that…and it turns out the baby’s not afraid… he’s selling weed.
Got a laughing, standing O! (see what I did there?).
Proggie if you’re going to keep trying to blow Kevin T. Justice, you two go get a room.
Proggs, seeing as though the answer for our nation’s faults are to tax to ‘offenders’ the issue is linked, is it not?
Well Carin at least I do not come here, write 4 paragraphs of pure absolute brilliance, then fly off into the night.
Well Carin at least I do not come here, write 4 paragraphs of pure absolute brilliance, then fly off into the night.
True. You come, write 10 comments full of parody, and pretend confusion over others pointing and laughing at you.
Lee I am not a parody, but if it will make you feel better I slept with your mother.
Lee: I still think Prog Hero is Jeff and this is his “why I’m getting the hell out of here” masterpeice before he disappears into some Batman Begins type Tibetan Ninja Sacntuary to write his book.
Are you sure?
It would look better for you if you were…
“It would look better for you if you were…”
You lost me.
Sorry, that was for Progg at #49.
I have doubts it’s Jeff. Not entertaining enough.
#49
That’s OK. You’re still funny. BTW the guys on assembly line six tell your mom hi.
Of course, the plodding stupidity would be an excellent disguise for Jeff.
Oh yeah cool. Tell the guys on assembly line six they might invest in some Valtrex.
Still, not as entertaining as bat wings.
Oh I’d say he’s fairly entertaining. Like Corky from Life Goes On (accept it’s totally appropriate to laugh at him).
BTW, I address the crack-heroin thing in an update. Plus, since sashal linked to the Jed Report, here’s Goldberg’s response.
Tell the guys on assembly line six they might invest in some Valtrex.
OK, make me eat my words!
THAT was funny!
and then there is jed response on Goldberg response(in the same linked post).
What I don’t get, Dan, Karl and Jeff are extremely intelligent people, why do you always defend that stupid douchebag Jonah? Just because he votes GOP?
Just my opinion, of course, but thanks in large part to the people like Lucienne’ son and similar idiots, GOP was in 2006 and is now in electoral trouble…
“THAT was funny!”
Every once in a while he throws out things that are a dead giveaway. The other day he says he’s “confused” because he reads “Kos, HuffPo, WaPo and they all say what he says so how can he be wrong?” He “doesn’t understand” why we don’t agree.
I’m telling you man, it’s Jeff. He’s putting us through what he has to go through every day. But his responses to PC, knee jerk, “I just graduated and my professor said,” attacks on his posts across the web can’t just be, “Oh, fuck off nitwit.”
He does a lot of heavy lifting just to fight an academia drapped mass of ethereal dumbness.
“What I don’t get, Dan, Karl and Jeff are extremely intelligent people, why do you always defend that stupid douchebag Jonah? ”
Why is Jonah a douchebag? Is Krugman a douchebag? I think think the Puffinghost is a douchebag but that is sexist of me.
sashal: Goldberg doesn’t need his water carried for him, but he’s obviously the Reaper for you and yours. Read the back and forth and Jed gets his ass handed to him. None of you dolts can raise a single intellectual argument to the premise of his book. Which is why, like Jed, your all terrified to ACTUALLY READ THE BOOK.
Seriously, people, in the first place (that’s like that opening line from that episode of the X files which had the Vampire Texans) Patriotism is not a bad thing, unlike say crack or heroin.
It is love of country, despite its flaws; and we don’t doubt there have been some. Allegiance to ‘change and hope’ for the sake of hope and change is something very much like addiction, specially the messianic variety offered by Barry “Sunshine” Dunham. He was born
here (we’re reasonably sure) so why does he have to bring the spirit of Mau
Mau, the Cuban Revolution and the FARC into the deal. If this level ofstupidity
wasn’t so deep; i’d blog under another name, but this is insane; and too reminiscent of what happened in my country of birth, and Clarice’s and too many others. It’s also what happened with sashal’s but I guess that has dissapeared down the memory hole. How did we come to the point that this yutz has even a prayer of coming anywhere near the Oval Office. As they say in Spanish “Dime con quien andas, y te dire quien to eres.” Tell me who you associate with, and we shall know you by them” Ayers, Doehrn Wright, Klonsky, Davidson, then the foreign policy staff headed by Brezinski and Lake, the last
presided over the Diem coup, and was a player in the surrender of Cambodia to the Khmer Rouge, later Nicaragua to the
Sandinistas and Iran to the Ayatollahs.
sure, lamont, go with that illusion about jed’s ass handed to him.
J.G. can’t even get basic arguments right, had to resolve to switching to his political views to explain idiotic invented out of the blue sky patriotism definition…
But what is good about Jonah, he knows his audience…
I’m not quite sure how linking to Goldberg’s response is defending him, so much as letting people read that argument play out. To me, being able to string out an argument one of the benefits of the ‘net (and one of the reasons trolling can annoy me — sashal may disagree with stuff here, but generally remains on-topic, which is more than can be said for some. That being said, sashal is fairly famous here for criticizing Goldberg’s book without having read it.)
“idiotic invented out of the blue sky patriotism definition”
So Zimbabwe is the Progs choice? Fidel’s Cuba? Chavez? Inquiring minds want to know what Prog idiots like you “think”.
I was referring to previous conversations, Karl.
Sure only links today. Sorry for not being clear enough.
But anyway, I hope we(you and me) agree, that Jonah’s patriotism’s invented new definition is total crap, borne just for the newspaper’s space taking and partisan hackerism…
dre, I’ll tell you as I already told many others.
Try to put it in your thick head.
Just because someone thinks that Jonah is an idiot(many true cons do, btw) or just because someone thinks differently on our foreign policies, -that does not make that person a “progg”
No dre, we look at more civilized places like Norway and Finland.
And Karl and dre beat me to the punch…
…while I death grip my “illusion” waiting for sahal’s intellectual (screw it, how bout just coherent) argument. Oh and sashal, if you’re having trouble getting past the words “douche” and “audience,” Olberman’s probably on somewhere.
“Just because someone thinks that Jonah is an idiot(many true cons do, btw) or just because someone thinks differently on our foreign policies, -that does not make that person a “progg—
Denver needs a singer for the Black anthem. You game?
Jonah’s not an idiot. He just fell in with a bad crowd is all. Nothing a summer backpacking across Europe won’t fix I don’t think.
You look at Norway, good luck paying taxes through the nose.
I was there and in Finland-boring high tax countries…..
America must be on something to elect bush twice.
Fuck bush.
“#Comment by ProggressiveHero on 7/2 @ 8:13 pm #
No dre, we look at more civilized places like Norway and Finland.”
Why? Are you Progs RACISTS?
“No dre, we look at more civilized places like Norway and Finland.”
Where there’s twelve whole black people and the muslim -er ‘scuse me, asian youth- beat the living piss out of homosexuals on the street?
Very progressive of you “Hero.”
I mean Jeff.
no dre, I can’t sing. Bear stomped on my ear( I am sure Karl heard the expression)
HF , then he will come back even worse-liberalizated…
#77
it is either “inartful” parody or prohibitive dose of alcohol talking.
Mannn I always wanted to say this: Have sex with Bush!
I am on beer number 9 sashal thanks for asking.
“#Comment by sashal on 7/2 @ 8:21 pm #
no dre, I can’t sing.”
Here’s the lyrics:
Unbreakable Union of freeborn Republics,
Great Russia has welded forever to stand.
Created in struggle by will of the people,
United and mighty, our Soviet land!
Sing to the Motherland, home of the free,
Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong.
O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people,
To Communism’s triumph lead us on!
unbelievable , you even know the words better,
fucking Bolshevism-such an infection
What I found most offensive about the metaphor is the role assignment (that the left-wing America-hater sees herself in a motherly role towards this country)
No, you dumb bitch, America is our mother.
You are not providing nourishment, opportunity, safety, etc. to America. It’s the other way around. Now show some respect to your metaphorical parent, you stupid brat.
PH, go easy on your kidneys.
Next time, may I recommend red wine- good on heart and does not require 9 for a good effect….
“America must be on something to elect bush twice.
Fuck bush.
– Appare4ntly whatever America’s on its higher grade stuff than you’re smoking because Chimpy fucked you first.
– You filled the media, the blogs, and the airwaves with your best propagandist lies, and you never touched him. What will you do for your next trick Houdini?
Three glasses of wine, myself Jeff, I mean Proggs. I’m OUT. Of wine. Tried to watch TWO movies (The Fountain, and Scanners Darkly) and now have returned to AlGore’s intertubes.
I’ve only got ONE, Sashal ;) I’ve got the scars to prove it. They are ugly, though, don’t make me show you.
Oh CArin…you crapped out on the movie selection. More wine would have helped some, but there’s a limit. Both of those movies require mushrooms (and not the kind Emeril uses).
BBH how can you say we never touched him when his poll numbers sit at 22 percent?
The problem, Lamont, is that I usually hit the netflix list after I’ve had a few.
FWIW, Hugh Jackman is da bomb. No as good as Christian Bale, of course, but they’re both up there.
“BBH how can you say we never touched him when his poll numbers sit at 22 percent?”
Cuz they don’t poll us dumb dumb. We’re busy working big boy jobs, investing, and keeping afloat this economy that you and your flesh balloon liberal retards leech off of. We’re on the telemarketer/pollster “do not fucking call list,” because a 1,000 person “focus group” is a horseshit measurement, and when we have a free minute we prefer to spend it with our families or friends.
You have to be Jeff in drag.
CArin (picture Henry Hill saying that in Goodfellas). I hear you. I’m on board. Jackman is “Wolverine.” I’m waitin for the Pope to grant him the whole Saint thingamabob.
I’m secure in my sexuality saying I have a man crush on him (even though Darleen made me talk about dude on dude butt rape today in that other awful, awful thread).
What? So I’ve had a few drinks too.
I don’t have to work til Monday.
Jackman is hot an all … but he’s no Christian Bale. Bale’s got that whole dark, mysterious vibe going for him. Plus, he used to do Shakespeare as a young lad. Layers. Nuance. Yum.
““BBH how can you say we never touched him when his poll numbers sit at 22 percent?â€Â
– About where Clintons were at the end, and look what it cost you and what you gained. The Dembulb Congress is sitting at 11%, and about to be hit with the train of oil obstruction, While McChimpy has done exactly what he promised and wanted to.
– You’ve failed in everything you tried to do, most notable Lamont, so I just love to hear you try to put the happy face on it, while you whine. Tells me how much it burns your lazy Progg ass, it does.
Ok, I got as far as #13 and had to skip down
Second, the “crack baby†crisis was an urban legend fueled by conservative myth-making and racism.
WHAT THE FUCK, Kevin are YOU smoking?
Is there a full moon or what, because the twit sightings seem to be up lately.
CArin, you’ve reached my heterosexual security limit. I cannot discuss the “quantum hotness mechanics” of Jackman vs. Bale. If you wanna include some kind of talent to violence ratio, “coolnees factor” or over all body count on film, I’ll jump right back in.
Until then, I’m gonna go surf porn (damn that Darleen).
#87 sashal
I’ve got three kidneys … and I like my martini’s like I like my men … straight up with a twist.
(for you Lamonty)
btw
Where did Kevin go? Is that one of those seminar Lefty commenters in driveby mode?
HHHEELLLOOOOOOO? Kevin where are you?
WHAT THE FUCK, Kevin are YOU smoking?
Kevin just honored us with a very serious talk he had with himself, about himself, that’s all. But Dude might need some weapons grade antipsychotics, would be my helpful recommendation. He’s about to spiral out of control!
Any of y’all ever still wonder why I only use my last name in comment threads?
– McGehee, I always figured you were just trying to avoid scaring the neighborhood pets. Even so you’ve never spiraled THAT far out of control.
– Looks like someone slipped lysal into his bong.
Comment by Darleen on 7/2 @ 9:29 pm #
Second, the “crack baby†crisis was an urban legend fueled by conservative myth-making and racism.
WHAT THE FUCK, Kevin are YOU smoking?
You jumped after #13, but I got your back in #45. He was indeed a driveby.
PH bleated:
BBH how can you say we never touched him when his poll numbers sit at 22 percent?
Because your not-so-cleverly-arranged polls mean very little except perhaps to give you warm fuzzies.
He’s in the last six months of his second term. Polls? WGAS?
The only way to smoke crack succesfully is to sell between a kilo and a kilo and a half a week.
And then you can sit in your chair and watch your friend’s lives go down the tubes, just before their heads explode.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 7/2 @ 10:43 pm #
The only way to smoke crack succesfully is to sell between a kilo and a kilo and a half a week.
…and then become the Mayor of Washingto DC.
Hmmmmmm.
The baby in the incubator next to my daughter’s was a crack baby. This was in 1990.
Never saw something that tragic that wasn’t already actually dead.
Of course, this is just anecdotal evidence. I just pass on to you what the neonatal ICU nurses told me. But the baby was in withdrawal. Seizures, convulsions, and pulmonary arrhythmia. On top of being a month premature, and with a placard directing “no unescorted visitors” hanging on the unit.
My goddess had a bumpy last mile into this world. I headed into the nursery having only seen her fleetingly, through a window in the OR door, as she was shovel passed from the crew who did the emergency cesarean to the neonatal crash crew.
After gowning, scrubbing, and masking, I asked where the (last name here) baby was, and was directed to the bassinet where I found the wasted, trembling, tiny little black girl. The one who shared our family name.
My goddess was just arriving in the next unit over and I watched and waited as the nurses fussed over her. She was tiny and pink and had a mop of dark hair. And she was breathing on her own and had done very well on the APGAR eval, considering what she and her mother had been through that last day.
She’s graduating this summer. I wonder what ever happened to that little black girl, who shared our name, and was called a crack baby by those sadly un-PC nurses?
I’ll take a break now. I’ll post on topic when our trolls rise to the level of engagement. The current crop are just wasting our time.
Kevin Keith is the same fellow who dropped in to lecture on the great virtue of Margaret Sanger in one of Jeff’s Provocateurism series. Kevin seems to have a peeve with Goldberg’s insistence that Progressives were firmly behind eugenics in the US. And that the fascists were their philosophical antecedents, etc. Thus, he is utterly incapable of following his own prescriptions. It is to laugh.
Kevin in Provocateurism 5: http://tinyurl.com/6og7s3
whoa, look at the big brain on Sdferr. ;D
Tmj
I had the good fortune to meet an adult goddess. She was another bandmom who I got to know … a quiet spoken black woman who let nothing ruffle her, she always showed up at band practices or field shows with one baby or another strapped to her front, papoose style.
She was a foster mom and she took in crack babies. Her family also ran a group home for developmentally challenged adults. Sometime she’d bring “her boys” to shows.
What an amazing woman.
Oo, get that thing off me right now, that’s just gross.
yeah, it is, isn’t it? only time I got woozy in anatomy class in HS was when someone brought a brain in. dissecting kittehs? no problem. just seeing someone else handle a human brain? head between the legs time.
see link in ‘lesbians: men with breasts’ for more brain talk maggie
Ummm, guys… thanks for all the anecdotical story’s, but Kevin T. Keith asserted that the “crack baby†crisis was an urban legend fueled by conservative myth-making and racism.
I mean, that’s hard not to believe, then he had ProggHero sniffing his ass crack, and it’s like, one comment and he already has a groupy. Pretty powerful stuff really.
“The bigger the lie, the easier believed” – Mark Twain
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I don’t think he’d lower his standards THAT far. Way too simplistic for Goldberg. If and when he does, he wont be so easily spotted.
“The bigger the lie, the easier believed†– Mark Twain
Deny reality and thus real solutions to all objective problems, guild/cloak/protect your denial via a strong dose of self-assigned-as-noble guilt, along with similarily pathological claims as to your own alleged “self-awareness” and superiority, project your inner demon=”Conservatives” – which tells you that there really is something wrong with what you are doing – onto the actual providers and protectors of your life, freedoms, etc., who thereby inadvertently “cause” your truely self-induced shame and guilt, become paranoid that they will do to you what you secretely know you deserve or what you want to do to them, and – voila – you have someone else to blame and make “pay” for your own depravity, and thus become known to the real world and history as a “Progressive”, “Fascist”, “Islamofascist”, or a “Communist”, trying to do to others what you know you either fear too greatly or are simply congenitally unable to do to/for yourself: accept responsibility for your own response to being alive, and control it, your mind, not the rest of us.
Or something like that – I just awoke from one of those realistic dreams about Zombies trying to eat me. Maybe that’s closer to what’s actually going on with current, and recurrent, “Progg” activities, especially were we to find that antipsychotics don’t work on Progressives.
Jeezus, sashal, will you pull your head out of your ass and stop whining that Goldberg wrote something you can’t refute? And that you refuse to even read?
For fuck’s sake, child, Goldberg’s couch is smarter than you.
Iceberg, Golberg, what’s the difference?
Sorry. I denounce myself.
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