Obama has made a habit of coming across like a man who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. That’s bothersome enough, but what’s more worrisome still is how comfortable he is with not knowing what he’s talking about, and how convinced he seems that his rhetorical flourishes will obscure his ignorance.
When you enjoy as much success as Obama because of the way you look and how you sound, it’s not surprising he puts little value on the truth of the underlying words. One of the commenters yesterday nailed it: He’s not intellectually curious. How else do you explain uttering the words “10,000 dead in a Kansas tornado” and not ask, Holy Shit — 10,000 people were killed in one storm? That’s more than twice as many as have died in Iraq in 5 years. Somebody hand me a laptop show me how Google works.”
Yeah, I want this guy taking foreign policy advice from John Kerry and Jimmy Carter.
what’s more worrisome still is how comfortable he is with not knowing what he’s talking about, and how convinced he seems that his rhetorical flourishes will obscure his ignorance.
Ya know, I think to some degree his success is based on the left’s buying into their own propaganda:
Bush isn’t a great public speaker –> he’s stupid, we hate him, we want him dead, imprisoned, or both.
Obama is a good speaker –> he’s brilliant, we love him, we want him to save us from all that’s evil
They’ve so bought into the “public speaking is the primary measure of intelligence” lie that they’ve fallen for someone who is ONLY a public speaker, and will forgive the incoherence (and history of failure) of his policies.
And most of Obama’s “gaffes” are really just errors on the side of dramatizing: It’s bad that 11 people died in a storm, but it’s horrific if 10,000 died. His great-uncle didn’t just liberate a forced labor camp, he liberated Auschwitz.
I think the tendency to dramatize has infected our politics in general (it’s not enough to disagree with Bush’s policies — he has to be a “criminal”; mistakes are either “conspiracies” or evidence of idiocy; “we’ve lost our Constitutional rights”; etc.), and I think Barack’s followers are lapping that up, not realizing that life is not a Hollywood movie.
Not so much, Sashal. Not mentioned was this other email they sent:
Please spend ample time chasing down the lies fed to you by chickenhawks Bush & Co. Like 90% of this administration, they don’t have the foggiest idea what we went through or what we saw at Ohrdruf.
I guess we shouldn’t have gotten into WWII either.
That’s exactly it, Rob. Thus Tuzla. Thus Obama’s existence being a direct result of Selma marches that began after he was born (“Don’t tell me I don’t own a connection to Selma; don’t tell me I don’t own a connection to the liberation of Jews from fascist labor and concentration camps; don’t tell me I am anyways tired; don’t tell me I’m not the one person in the world who’s on the inside of every circle in every possible Venn Diagram depicting the American People because I am uniquely situated at the very center and thus the best choice for president.”) In other words, it’s identity politics carried to its calculus function absurdist conclusion.
But “citizen journalists†got bitch slapped -priceless
Who the fuck cares?
Seriously, I don’t get it. People hear something bizarre coming from a presidential candidate, and they question its accuracy. The details don’t pass immediate muster, but after it’s dug into some more, it turns out the claim has some ground in truth, but that the candidate exaggerated and/or simply was mistaken.
The citizen journalists did exactly what citizens and journalists are supposed to do. They fact-checked his ass and they forced the candidate to offer proof of an extraordinary claim.
I get that for certain groups of O! supporters (like you, sashal), the only acceptable reaction to O! is to lick the spittle that flies from his lips as he chants “YES WE CAN”, but the rest of us think he should be questioned, tested, and exposed to doubt.
I’m stunned that someone who sees “bolsheviks” behind every political disagreement has bought into the O! personality cult so completely as to believe O! should not be questioned or doubted.
Well, OK, not really stunned. Amused, perhaps. Rather like my reaction to a self-proclaimed libertarian demanding that due process be ignored.
So, don’t tell me that I don’t have a claim on The Masters golf tourney. I have been to Georgia, and I have played golf in Georgia, and almost won an auction for tickets to the practice round this year. So, don’t tell me I don’t have a claim to a green jacket.
Nobody got bitchslapped looking for Obama’s uncle, Sashal.
I think Sadly no kind of missed the point of that searching…It’s Obamas fibbery to blame for that.
The letters from the kind of nutty amateur 89th site, if anything delayed resolution of discrepancies in the name of his uncle and Kansas enlistment records.
bush is just a really bad president.
Obama is a progressive Christ figure sent to answer sins of appointed collective guilt who would make a much worse president.
I dont see much else to it.
Bad as Obama’s not knowing what he’s talking about is, what’s worse is his penchant for trying to make shit up on the fly. The uncle/great uncle/whoever it is has been enjoying a steadily more heroic WWII career. All that’s left is to find out his cover name was Steve Rogers…
It looks to me as if the Dems are fabulists. They exaggerate their own histories to make themselves look better. They are used to not being called on it because the media tends to ignore anything but the grossest outrageousness from them.
The Repubs don’t do it as much I would guess. Not because they wouldn’t want to, oh no, but because the media would fact-check their asses and have the charges of “liar” tagged to them immediately.
Now that they are under the same scrutiny the Repubs get all the time, they are spending a lot of time backpedaling. They keep doing it because it is so ingrained in their being they can no longer control themselves. Either that or they are just idiots.
When you enjoy as much success as Obama because of the way you look and how you sound, it’s not surprising he puts little value on the truth of the underlying words. One of the commenters yesterday nailed it: He’s not intellectually curious. How else do you explain uttering the words “10,000 dead in a Kansas tornado” and not ask, Holy Shit — 10,000 people were killed in one storm? That’s more than twice as many as have died in Iraq in 5 years. Somebody hand me a laptop show me how Google works.”
Yeah, I want this guy taking foreign policy advice from John Kerry and Jimmy Carter.
I know you guys will enjoy a nice bitch slap:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html
Ya know, I think to some degree his success is based on the left’s buying into their own propaganda:
Bush isn’t a great public speaker –> he’s stupid, we hate him, we want him dead, imprisoned, or both.
Obama is a good speaker –> he’s brilliant, we love him, we want him to save us from all that’s evil
They’ve so bought into the “public speaking is the primary measure of intelligence” lie that they’ve fallen for someone who is ONLY a public speaker, and will forgive the incoherence (and history of failure) of his policies.
And most of Obama’s “gaffes” are really just errors on the side of dramatizing: It’s bad that 11 people died in a storm, but it’s horrific if 10,000 died. His great-uncle didn’t just liberate a forced labor camp, he liberated Auschwitz.
I think the tendency to dramatize has infected our politics in general (it’s not enough to disagree with Bush’s policies — he has to be a “criminal”; mistakes are either “conspiracies” or evidence of idiocy; “we’ve lost our Constitutional rights”; etc.), and I think Barack’s followers are lapping that up, not realizing that life is not a Hollywood movie.
Not so much, Sashal. Not mentioned was this other email they sent:
I guess we shouldn’t have gotten into WWII either.
Sadly, no.
Asshat.
That’s exactly it, Rob. Thus Tuzla. Thus Obama’s existence being a direct result of Selma marches that began after he was born (“Don’t tell me I don’t own a connection to Selma; don’t tell me I don’t own a connection to the liberation of Jews from fascist labor and concentration camps; don’t tell me I am anyways tired; don’t tell me I’m not the one person in the world who’s on the inside of every circle in every possible Venn Diagram depicting the American People because I am uniquely situated at the very center and thus the best choice for president.”) In other words, it’s identity politics carried to its calculus function absurdist conclusion.
carin, nobody said about not getting into WWII…
But “citizen journalists” got bitch slapped -priceless
Who the fuck cares?
Seriously, I don’t get it. People hear something bizarre coming from a presidential candidate, and they question its accuracy. The details don’t pass immediate muster, but after it’s dug into some more, it turns out the claim has some ground in truth, but that the candidate exaggerated and/or simply was mistaken.
The citizen journalists did exactly what citizens and journalists are supposed to do. They fact-checked his ass and they forced the candidate to offer proof of an extraordinary claim.
I get that for certain groups of O! supporters (like you, sashal), the only acceptable reaction to O! is to lick the spittle that flies from his lips as he chants “YES WE CAN”, but the rest of us think he should be questioned, tested, and exposed to doubt.
I’m stunned that someone who sees “bolsheviks” behind every political disagreement has bought into the O! personality cult so completely as to believe O! should not be questioned or doubted.
Well, OK, not really stunned. Amused, perhaps. Rather like my reaction to a self-proclaimed libertarian demanding that due process be ignored.
#8, wrong, Rob.
Question away, I am all for it.
So why are you cackling over the questioning coming out a certain way? Why refer to “bitch slapping”?
Why so upset over O! being doubted?
bitch slapping is good, develops integrity and the granite counter tops look cheap all of a sudden
Baracky is a result of the Selma march. They were thinking about it 4 years in advance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Much as Hillary! was named for Sir Edmund Hillary…
So, don’t tell me that I don’t have a claim on the mountain top! I’ve been to the mountain top, and I ain’t noways tired.
So, don’t tell me that I don’t have a claim on The Masters golf tourney. I have been to Georgia, and I have played golf in Georgia, and almost won an auction for tickets to the practice round this year. So, don’t tell me I don’t have a claim to a green jacket.
Nobody got bitchslapped looking for Obama’s uncle, Sashal.
I think Sadly no kind of missed the point of that searching…It’s Obamas fibbery to blame for that.
The letters from the kind of nutty amateur 89th site, if anything delayed resolution of discrepancies in the name of his uncle and Kansas enlistment records.
bush is just a really bad president.
Obama is a progressive Christ figure sent to answer sins of appointed collective guilt who would make a much worse president.
I dont see much else to it.
Bad as Obama’s not knowing what he’s talking about is, what’s worse is his penchant for trying to make shit up on the fly. The uncle/great uncle/whoever it is has been enjoying a steadily more heroic WWII career. All that’s left is to find out his cover name was Steve Rogers…
It looks to me as if the Dems are fabulists. They exaggerate their own histories to make themselves look better. They are used to not being called on it because the media tends to ignore anything but the grossest outrageousness from them.
The Repubs don’t do it as much I would guess. Not because they wouldn’t want to, oh no, but because the media would fact-check their asses and have the charges of “liar” tagged to them immediately.
Now that they are under the same scrutiny the Repubs get all the time, they are spending a lot of time backpedaling. They keep doing it because it is so ingrained in their being they can no longer control themselves. Either that or they are just idiots.
You certainly have fallen hard for the cult of personality, sashal.