James Scott Linville, who is among other admirable things apparently a fan of teh PW, takes issue with recent posts belonging to us and others repeating remarks ascribed— he claims erroneously–to her by a Canadian tabloid. Interestingly, Mr. Linville spent part of 9/11 with Ms. Wurtzel.
Having reviewed the piece in question, I think that Karl’s criticisms of Ms. Wurtzel’s analysis still stand on their own merit, but I think he’d agree with me, as well, that we wouldn’t want to repeat any calumnies, so our my apologies for that [if it is really the case], and our my thanks to Mr. Linville [for bringing it to my attention].
After all, we admire her spunk:
I dunno, the use of bitch and spunk in close proximity…well…you know…
Those should be like italicized or somethin’…
He says she says she didn’t make those remarks. I have no idea who he is, and no idea whether he’s a fan of pw. Here’s the nut of his link:
Wurtzel would certainly have a motive to disclaim the remarks. I don’t know why the journalist would fabricate them. They might be fabricated, i suppose. I have no solid evidence of it. But celebs say all sorts of crass and stupid things, then claim they were misquoted. So I’m not changing a word, including the quote.
…and in the future, Dan, do not presume to apologize on my behalf.
Fair enough, Karl. Meta-apologies to you.
Dan,
S’okay. I don’t blame Linville for defending a friend. I’m sure he believes her. But Wurtzel makes a living saying and writing outrageous things, doesn’t she? So maybe her protests fell on deaf ears because the Toronto journo had it in his notes, on tape, etc.
If Linville had more than her say-so, I would have had a different reaction. But his e-mail to us said: “quite simply, wurtzel didn’t say the quote the canadian paper attributed to her. that’s why it’s not on their website,” while his link doesn’t prove that at all. And that overstatement itself does not scream credibility to me, either. Again, I think Linville is sincere in his belief, but I would like a little more than that before printing some sort of retraction.
That was really a lot gentlemanly I thought.
Like a virtual little drawing room really.
People who are in shock do fasten on little things to re-center themselves. ‘It looked like an art project’ could be an example of that or of denial. See a real psychologist about that – such as Dr. Sanity.
Thanks, Karl. For the record, let it be noted as well that she’s a HOT friend.
I’ll bet her nick-name is ‘Mangel’.
Probably needs a spanking too
“S’okay. I don’t blame Linville for defending a friend. I’m sure he believes her. But Wurtzel makes a living saying and writing outrageous things, doesn’t she? So maybe her protests fell on deaf ears because the Toronto journo had it in his notes, on tape, etc.”
Karl (and every body else) –
In the late nineties, I saw this girl who had come to my AA meeting and looked to be abour 17 years old, and incredibly HOT! I said to a woman friend of mine “blah, blah, blah”, and she said: “That’s Elizabeth Wurtzel and she is 32 years old”. EW is (or was) incredibly attractive and charismatic, and looked like the hottest high school girl you’ve ever seen.
Anyway, I came to find out it was her, and I must tell you, I have no problem believing that she said these things. Whether she actually meant them or not, I can’t say. But if she did say them, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. “Bitch” is her (in my opinion) autobiography, but from my brief encounter with her, I think she should have called it “Cock Teaser”.
But I can say that, after talking to her (or should I say trying to hustle her?), I came away with the firm impression of a man teasing “bitch” (feeling shy there) who just wanted people to fall all over her to fill the hole in her soul. She would take drugs for months at a time, and then head to rehab to dry out.
She was very intelligent, but probably wouldn’t be so insecure if she wasn’t an absolutely gorgeous knockout who looked like jailbait. Her comments to me, and all the other guys who were drooling all over her, were designed to “shock. and awe”
I doubt if she really even thought about what she said, because her goal seemed to be shocking anyone who thought she was beautiful (which she was) into speechlessness.
I never saw her again, but retain the impression that she cared about nothing and no one. Her game was to come across like a human taser. And she was very good at it. Ten (or so) years later, there is still electricity in my memory of her, and your comment has set me off agin. Even though I haven’t thought of her more than twice in those yesrs. I can’t even put into words how attractive she was.
I probably wouldn’t have come to this conclusion if I weren’t better at it than she was, though. She is actually just a pup, who doesn’t know how to make a tasteless crack, and have everyone in the room, grossed out or not, KNOW that you were just goofing. It’s hard on paper, but I’m pretty good at it in person. But I am old enough to know where the line is.
I lost seven friends and aquaintances on 9/11 (plus two neighbors), but even Mr. Smart Ass wouldn’t make a joke about 9/11.
She is a beautiful, charismatic and tragically insecure girl/woman, and not to be taken seriously. Attention is her goal.
And that’s too bad. With her looks, intelligence, and charisma, she could go anywhere and have anything, and still be human. It does appear, though, that she has chosen the lonely path. It’s too bad her choice is to feed her insecurity. It really is.
Probably at least eight years since I have even thought about her, and I see her picture, and I am fantasizing about her again. That’s how hot she was.
Oh.
And that picture does her true looks an injustice.
Very well written, lost dogs, or lost cookies. And I see by her WSJ writing that she’s joined the Dark Side. She’s conservative now. Wow. Another Ann Coulter in the making.
Cock Teaser. Sorry, I missed out on her celebrity. Really, not sorry at all.
She just needs a little attention.
I mean, really needs attention.
Well, at least you can still have a pie.
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Oh. Come. On. Intelligent?
Beautiful, most assuredly. Like most of us, Lost, you confuse beauty with intelligence. If someone has physical beauty, it invariably confers other magical powers on them as well. But the transcendent power of physical beauty is a subject better left to another day.
Has it occurred to you that, if she truly were intelligent, she would not have fallen so easily into the obviously depraved cesspit of current culture–and all it’s corny and vapid trappings? (“Wildly exhilarating”…The Washington Post.) Perhaps she would also have managed–in her 40-odd years–to understand herself and other people better. A lack of empathy for others is more a condemnation of one’s mental powers than an endorsement.
Those admittedly fabulous looks of hers add several imaginary points to her IQ.
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Again.. she’s so freakin hot.
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