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RADICAL CHIC-APHILE-IST!
Remember when we did this before and he was called Ward Churchill?
Wow..haiku even.
You really are back.
“Persistance has it’s
place in racial politics.
But Wright; just shut up!”
Jeff,
Not even you can parody Wright. It’s impossible to tell what is a real quote.
That’s not what I said
What I really meant to say
was that shit I said
I will not vote for Obama because
he’s a douchebag.
He’s a big bag of douche.
He’s a suitful of Summer’s Eve.
After Michelle hugs him
she smells like a field of wildflowers
after a fresh spring rain.
This is so left-brain.
Gary Younge The Guardian, Monday April 28 2008
Article history
This article appeared in the Guardian on Monday April 28 2008 on p29 of the Comment & debate section. It was last updated at 00:03 on April 28 2008.
It is one of the enduring paradoxes of American racism that those black Americans most likely to exercise their full rights as citizens – to vote, to stand, to speak out – are the most likely to be branded as unpatriotic.
“Of course the fact that a person believes in racial equality doesn’t prove that he’s a communist,” said the chairman of a loyalty review board, one of the McCarthyite kangaroo courts that sat in judgment of possible communists, in the 50s. “But it certainly makes you look twice, doesn’t it? You can’t get away from the fact that racial equality is part of the communist line.”
Assuming that African-Americans could not possibly work out that white supremacy was not in their interests by themselves, their detractors routinely accused them of acting under influences both foreign and malign. The FBI wasted millions of dollars and hours trying in vain to prove that Martin Luther King was a communist. For those who would not know their place and were not assassinated, the punishment was often the revocation of whatever rights of citizenship they had. Already denied the vote, freedom of movement and association, Paul Robeson was refused a passport in 1950 and confined to the US. When his lawyers asked why, they were told that “his frequent criticism of the treatment of blacks in the United States should not be aired in foreign countries”. In 1963 the intellectual and activist WEB Dubois was similarly grounded without passport privileges and so moved to the recently liberated Ghana.
The struggle for racial equality in America has always essentially been a battle for full citizenship. In a country founded on the principles of the enlightenment and built on the backs of slaves, it has long exposed the tension between the country’s promise and its practice. The founding fathers held both that all men were equal – and that a slave was worth three-fifths of a man. Sooner or later, the nation would implode under the weight of these constitutional contradictions.
It took the best part of 200 years for the law to catch up. In Barack Obama’s candidacy we are now learning how far America’s political culture has come in this regard and how far it still has to go. Because, for all the misty-eyed liberal talk of him ushering in a post-racial era, the past few weeks have seen Obama fighting not just for the nomination but for his patriotic legitimacy. Constantly questioning his national loyalty and obfuscating his religious affiliation, both the media and his opponents have sought to cast him not only as anti-American but un-American and at times even non-American. His bid to transcend race appears to be crashing on the rocks of racism.
“Race is intertwined with a broader notion that he is not one of us,” Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Centre, told the New York Times. Pew conducted an extensive examination of voter attitudes, particularly among Democrats who have an unfavourable view of Obama. “They react negatively to people who are seen as different.”
The point here is not whether white people are prepared to vote for him. First, they clearly are. Of the 10 whitest states to have voted so far, Obama has won nine. And there are countless reasons why people don’t back him that have nothing to do with race – not least that they prefer another candidate on their merits.
At issue is the insidious and racist manner in which his candidacy is now being framed as that of a nefarious, foreign interloper whose allegiance to his country is inherently inauthentic and instinctively suspect.
Some of these charges have long emerged from familiar and predictable places. As early as last year, Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News falsely claimed that he had attended an Islamist madrasa while a young boy in Indonesia. When rightwing radio hosts refer to him they generally emphasise and repeat his middle name – Hussein – even though Obama rarely uses it.
But soon these attacks shifted from the political margins to the mainstream. During the recent ABC debate, Obama was grilled about his refusal to wear an American flag tiepin. One of the moderators asked Obama of his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright: “You do believe he’s as patriotic as you are?”
Having given up on the African-American vote, the Clintons have clearly decided that it makes more electoral sense to collude with these attacks than it does to raise the tenor of the discussion and challenge them. During the ABC debate, Hillary applauded the line of questioning. “You know, these are problems, I think these are issues that are legitimate and should be explored.”
Being foreign, Muslim or unpatriotic should not be treated as slurs. But in a post 9/11 framework, the Clintons know full well how these allusions will be understood and what the consequences might be. When asked whether Obama was a Muslim, Hillary said that he wasn’t: “There is nothing to base that on – as far as I know.”
Three days after Obama made his landmark speech on race, Bill Clinton said of a potential match-up between Hillary Clinton and McCain: “I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics.” The implication was that Obama doesn’t love his country and all this “racial” stuff is just getting in the way.
All this does have an effect. By February, 80% of Americans had heard rumours that Obama was Muslim. Even after the furore over the Rev Wright, one in 10 Democrats still believed this. A recent Pew poll showed that the only character trait on which Obama loses to Clinton is patriotism. Exit polls in Pennsylvania revealed that 18% of Democrats said that race mattered to them in this contest – and just 63% of them said that they would support Obama in a general election.
Unable to beat Obama on delegates and still unlikely to beat him in the popular vote, Hillary Clinton has just one strategy left – to persuade superdelegates that Obama is unelectable. She has tried branding him as inexperienced and slick-tongued, and neither of those have worked. At this stage she has just one argument left: his race. For several months now, her aides have been whispering to whoever would listen that America would never elect a black candidate. In desperation, some are now raising their voices.
But their accusations are not only cynical – by most accounts they also seem to be wrong. It seems they have underestimated the potential of the American electorate. Polls show that in the states won with less than a five-point margin in 2004 Obama does far better than Clinton against McCain.
The problem is not that Hillary Clinton is still in the race. She has every right to be. It is that she is running the kind of race that she is. Having failed to convince voters of the viability of her own candidacy, she is now committed to proving the unviability of his.
Hillary once said it takes a village to raise a child. Now she seems determined to destroy the village in order to save it.
g.younge@guardian.co.uk
Enjoy!
If Obama becomes President, he’ll be the most racist since Wilson.
johnannarbor
bless ya heart!
candace really is a piece of work. I denounce BJ, just in case.
Yes, I always look to The Guardian to inform me of race relations in the country I’ve lived in all my life. After all, the Brits have done such a wonderful job themselves — look at all the minority PMs they’ve had!
Hey candace, if 90% of a particular race vote for a candidate of that race (when a candidate of another race is available), is that racism?
Does it matter which races are involved? If so, why? And when will it no longer matter?
No fair asking questions that are RACIST, John.
But but but that Wright quote is out of context!
(Context of passage even worse than quote)
But but but that passage is out of context!
(Entire sermon even worse than passage)
But but but that sermon is out of context!
(Body of work presented, even worse than sermon)
…
…
…
RACIST!!!!
I think the left is hoping that if they grow more tiresome every day, eventually everyone else will collapse from exhaustion.
candace chooses The Guardian to make a definitive statement about racism in America:
[…]
BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one, candace. *wipes tears*
candace is jest a gonna try an edumacate us’n oppresive white folk as to our historical guilt bah associationz.
I condemn Jeff just so that, you know, you’d feel a part of the crew.
Obama is like
the rain that falls overhead
honkies can pound sand
Go fuck yourself, Candace.
It’s sad when an editor can’t even recognize it best to scrap a story after noting that it’s very first sentence is idiotic:
Actually, the ones most likely to be “branded” (CODE WORK ALERT!) unpatriotic are the ones who, you know, accuse their country of engaging in a sub rosa, intentional genocide of Blacks by way of retrovirus. And of course, screaming “God Damn America” and embracing a Marxist worldview in a society built on individualism doesn’t help much, either.
But please. Do remind us again of your degrees. So we can tremble before you and cease with our racist rejoinders.
That’s “Grauniad”. Get it right next time. We could go full anagram and rename it “Dung Aria” or “Aura Ding”, but then no one would get it.
In April’s dark sky –
Jeremiah hurls thunder.
Claps forcing shudders.
Most important paragraph in Candy’s (can I call you Candy? ) cut-n-paste:
And then the piece goes on to explain how HILLARY is stocking racism fires. Larger society? Not racist? Hillary? Using anything she can. Candy, I think you need to bring this shit up with Hillary supporters. While we have an Obama supporter (or two or three), I don’t think anyone here is pulling for Hillary in anything other than a primary.
I know a guy with a PhD in biology who happens to be black. He works on advancing scientific knowledge and healing sickness.
Kind of the opposite of Rev. Wright.
Eliminate the question mark after “not racist.”
Or not. Haters.
I’m still stunned by “Dung Aria”, so I’m kind of not noticing your punctuation, Carin.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Reverend Wright say
God Damn is not God Damn say
Hootchie Momma say
Petatonic scale
Why must I have two extra notes?
Petatonic scale.
Yup, Jeff, followed by this big slice of objectionist pie:
We must not listen to the actual words of the candidate, his wife or his spiritual advisor for they represent some manifestation of the inauthentic. Instead we are to turn our countenances towards The Narrative,™ which will define for us the authentic critical thinking with regards to the hopey, changey campaign.
Any attempt by us “bitter” white people to eschew the canned policy pronouncements, rich in their vagaries and vagueness, and look closer at the person, character warts and all, and The Narrative™ dictates the dropping of the rethorical hammer. Racism assumed by racist history (for our Guardian pimp is quoting from the 1950’s fer cryin’ out loud) cancels the bitter, white inquiry. Our collective guilt should humble us into silence and accept only the angelic, dulcet tones of Obama’s carefully controlled Xanadu tour guide. Pay no attention to all of that stuff behind The Narrative™ curtain. Us gun totin’ Jesus freaks and unrepentant Zionists have no authenticity, past or present, to question a campaign run on ascention. Character, Schmaracter. Just STFU, whitey.
I hardly ever get inspired to say this in this way but candace: F#ck off and take your race pimping, victimization complex and bogus black studies degrees with you.
HE’S BACK, BABY!!!
/Costanza
…and it only took the toxic combo of Mandy and Jeremiah! Perhaps we should send them a big ol’ Thank-You card.
…
…
Nah.
Code word alert, as Jeff points out. Even today our “original sin” programmed into the very DNA of our Constitution and racial identity marks our shame. Bow your heads, racists.
It could have been worse, I suppose. He could have written “…are the most likely to be lashed with the stigma of being unpatriotic.”
I suppose we sinners should be grateful for that small indulgence.
Mr. Reynolds posted a link to this today. I thought this part was odd.
Elitist and rich aren’t synonyms. I for serious doubt candace is rich. But either way, what’s really odd I think is that Baracky is coming off as such an elitist twat given how little he’s accomplished, not really so much with respect to his net worth.
While we seem to be cutting and pasting – perhaps a little context on Gary Young –
Memoirs of a Teenage Trot for example.
a taste….
“I called the WRP (Workers Revolutionary Party) organiser and received a vicious tongue-lashing.
“You can’t just piss off to Yorkshire without telling anyone,” he screamed. “Don’t you know that the state are picking people up left, right and centre at a time of crisis like this?” “Like who?” I asked. “Never mind who,” he shouted, and then delivered a stern lecture on party discipline. By this stage I had had enough. The miners were trickling back to work, the revolution was clearly not around the corner and I was sick of grown-ups playing soldiers. The security blanket of intellectual certainty I had felt when I had joined no longer comforted me. Any suggestion that there was more to politics than class struggle – like race and gender – was met with fierce rebuke.”
And so on and so forth….
‘Tis a tale told by an idiot; full of
sound and fury, signifying nothing…
But what about this, which just pressed itself (rather cheekily) upon my attention?:
Hang out our banners on the outward walls;
The cry is still ‘They come:’ our castle’s strength
Will laugh a siege to scorn: here let them lie
Till famine and the ague eat them up:
Were they not forced with those that should be ours,
We might have met them dareful, beard to beard,
And beat them backward home.
First Minnesota
Wiped out at Gettysburg. Why?
Fuckin’ ingrates, all.
“our Guardian pimp is quoting from the 1950’s fer cryin’ out loud”
And not even getting that right either. A little bit of honesty about Paul Robeson –who wept at news of Stalin’s death — is in order.
Then again, to Guardian readers, that’s as natural as breathing….
bitter religion
roost, American chickens
ev’ryone likes pie
Clinton and McCain
Insidious and racist
Guardian has been
I’d suggest an attempt to reason with Candy, but then again, I’m sure that has been attempted dozens of times. So with that being said: Candy, go fuck yourself.
If Obama’s skin was a darker shade of ebony and his name was Michael Steele and he wasn’t a fucking American (as it is) hating, empty suited wannabe socialist, I’d vote for him. But, as it is…
captain stupid thinks
the bell curve is pseudoscience
he is on the left
I got this far before I rolled my eyes. I went to a lecture given by Colin Powell during the 1990s and he had plenty to say. His talk had me in tears. He might be black, but if you cut him he bleeds red, white and blue. While I have my disagreements with the man, I’d cut out my tongue before I’d call him unpatriotic. Ditto Tom Sowell, Walter Williams, Ward Connerly, Shelby Steele, etc. Ever check their press clippings, Mr. Younge?
Jeff is right…the problem with Obama, Wright, Cindy McKinney, Maxine Waters, etc. isn’t the black of their skin, it’s the red of their speech. Stop being seditious fucks and we’ll stop pointing it out.
hmm….better
captain stupid thinks
the bell curve is pseudoscience
cuz he’s on the left
why is this a problem with obama again?
i thot u were talkin about wright.
:)
frenzied flailing fails
slurs and epithets unstuck
voters shrug and yawn
frenzied flailing fails
slurs and epithets unstuck
voters yawn and shrug
which is better?
oh this is better
frenzied flailing fails
slurs and epithets unstuck
voters yawn and shrug
frenzied flailing fails
slurs and epithets unstuck
voters yawn and shrug
hehe
You know, with some people, enough’s never enough. A perpetual sense of entitlement, in other words.
hahaha
im entitled cuz im correct.
;)
nishitiot yammers on
about what nobody knows
PWers yawn or mock.
Ah yes, Garyu Younge, started out with the New Statesman; which ispractically maoist, one of their big draws is John
Pilger who was muttering about a CIA
infiltration of the labour party that included Blair, Mendelson, Brown, et al. Yes, Robeson was a Stalinist, part
of the Comintern strategy was to create
a ‘black belt’ which would revolt from
White America. Dubois, not only ended up that way after endorsing Wilson’s Confederate nationalism over Taft & Roosevelt, acting neutral over fascism
up to 1937; etc; finally endorsing Kwame Nkrumah’s Umoja nationalist hijinks,
Seriously, some one at the NAACP (fat chance) or the National Press Club should have followed with something like this;
“Reverend if you really think America, is damned in the eyes of God. because of slavery, poverty, creating the AIDS
virus,(whic
hehe, yup..that why the threads go over a hunndred even when the Master is out.
lulz
well….im kinda surprised rev. wright isn’t into numerology and the Wu-Tang Klan.
he glommed onto all the other crazie black conspiracy theory BS.
nish, Candy may be a threat to your ego. That last thread was over 250 last time I looked.
If this site had one of those nifty “hide this comment” options on a thread where nishi-whatever gets going, the thread would end up about 60% shorter. And 90% more intelligible, but that’s a whole other story.
rawr!
lulz, im not threatened.
i dont do that ethnic [greivance] studies shit.
mathematicians don’t ever even talk to ethnic studies ppl.
don’t u know the Uni Law of the Hard Sciences, carin?
biologists speak only to chemists
chemists only to physicists
physicists only to mathematicians,
and mathematicians only to god.
And nishi? Only to itself.
the bell curve is pseudoscience = 8. Your science is off again gamer, erm, nishi…
nishitiot flaps her gums
genocide and bile spew forth
0bama cums a little
National Review (hard copy) has an article for you nish. I will try to throw a bit at you later, but I have to go do a soccer-mom thing right now.
kk
is this better?
captain stupid thinks
bell curve is pseudoscience
cuz hes on the left
hehe, wat a maroon!
he thinks IDT is real science!
but the Bell Curve is pseudoscience.
RWS is on the left side of the Bell Curve too i think.
;)
lordy, how bill ardolino usta despise her.
You’re not supposed to say it last name, nish.
HIS. Didn’t he want to go all privy a while back?
And Nishi only to her navel
he did?
i beeen gone.
KK Nishi – now fix your other factual errors.
This maroon proved you were a few lines of programming. We see you are still running little program.
I just love it when gamera/nishidiot learns a new phrase. How long do you think we’ll be reading “left side of the bell curve”?
I feel bad for “wedge strategy.”
So nearly understood, so quickly discarded.
Well, remember: before there was “wedge strategy” there was “ESCR.” Which, um…
why is this a problem with obama again?
i thot u were talkin about wright.
Chickens, nishi.
BLT Homing Chickens, all the way down.
:)
McGehee – If that works out, ’tis truly world changin’… though I’m wondering what they’ll call the menses collection stations…
Night drops?
Hypothesis: Nishi never stays on subject.
Test: Someone post an article about her kooky transhuman/eugenics, and we’ll see if she talks about something else.
Then the peer review process begins.
Roosting chicks, you so my homey
and your speeches, Jeremiah
inspire this Nation’s cowbell
dysfunctional child
posting illiterate rant
we’re not your Daddy.
*sigh*
The FBI’s Threadjacking Division just collapsed upon itself. Again.
sad how nishi touts
hundred-plus thread comments when
half of them are her
McGehee:
The fertile window
passed. Come see McGehee at the
Eumenori Shed