Via Hot Air, Hitch explains why lying about the Tuzla landing is just the tip of the iceberg for Shrillary. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve been feeling pretty good about the election lately. I can’t see how either of these clowns the Dems might put up can win. The scary part is that there are so many people who will still vote for them. I guess we’ll see whether Captain Queeg can play the prevent defense without screwing it up.
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for once this alcoholic socialist is right about something-HRC.
Surprised though to witness the collusion of the so-called Bush conservatives and vodka drenched commies…
Well then, you must have just started paying attention. Hitch is probably the only living honest socialist, and he’s been on the right side of a lot of issues for a long time.
I read an interesting book this weekend entitled Bloody Williamson. The parallels are interesting.
you can’t be an honest socialist until you admit your a fascist.
#4
right on!
Hear that, Baracky?
Craig, for a person to claim Hitch is on the right side of many things means that person is a bloody socialist or at least a starry eyed interventionist with full disregard to American blood and treasure,- for this is the way we are going to pay for your socialist foreign fantasies…
Hitchens is an ex-socialist that got mugged on the way to a Central Planning Committee meeting. Became an agnostic neo-con.
So Hillbilly lies and sometimes tell some big whoppers. yawn.
Again, Hilly is a 3rd rate hanger-on with a serious inferiority complex. That much is evident from her inability to put away the no substance Mugabe-ish (light) candidacy of one Barry O. That has been the learning experience here that seems to be missed. Forrest/trees and all that jazz.
Craig, for a person to claim Hitch is on the right side of many things means that person is a bloody socialist or at least a starry eyed interventionist with full disregard to American blood and treasure,- for this is the way we are going to pay for your socialist foreign fantasies…
What have you been smoking?
Now would be a good time to find a Republican to run for President in 2008.
actually, O T T at #8,
Hitch never changed.
Some conservatives blinded by the party loyalty to GOP, became marred with many of the Hitch/socialist ideas…
I quit(smoking), Craig.
But if you read Hitch, that’s the way he wants us to pay for his fantasies
Sashal’s essentially a Buchananite/Lew Rockwell acolyte.
sashal – Hitch is not running for anything and one isn’t required to agree with everything he says to like an article he puts out. Why do you keep trying to attribute positions to people that they do not hold?
Why do you keep trying to attribute positions to people that they do not hold?–
-hah?
sashal – I’m not an atheist or socialist, but I enjoy a lot of what Hitchens puts out. Your dishonesty is boring.
Rob, here are some more sources for my inspiration that conservatism is not dead in USA
this
and this
Plus people like C.Hagel make my heart get warm in this cold climate…
so, rocks, did you enjoy SOME works of Lenin or Marx ? How about especially the ones, where the global democratic revolutions and interventions were advocated?
Basically, sashal, your beef is that Hitchens thinks it was a good idea to remove Saddam and shutdown the Iraqi rape rooms. Because of that, anyone who says they like some of what Hitchens says MUST be a communist.
Actually Hitch has not been espousing anything socialist rather he’s been on the ball beating back the current form of facism (islamo) who’s shadow darkens the world. The guy has been relentless chasing down the largest BDS inflicted lefty frauds and showing them for the naked sychophants that they are, Galloway and Joe Nigger Wison being two that really have taken (deserved) the full frontal brunt of Hitch’s wrath. Oh and Bill Maher too :) Its gruessome work, but he has been quite elegant at the task.
That jives with my neo-con impulses and thus I take great pride in solidarity with him.
basically, Rob, that is one of the important characteristics of the communism-meddling in other people’s affairs and forcefully telling them how they are supposed to live their lives
“#Comment by Rob Crawford on 3/31 @ 12:18 pm #
Sashal’s essentially a Buchananite/Lew Rockwell acolyte.”
Ahhh.
A real fucking lunatic.
That explains a lot.
basically, Rob, that is one of the important characteristics of the communism-meddling in other people’s affairs and forcefully telling them how they are supposed to live their lives
Concepts that the modern Dems have taken to heart, sashal.
“#Comment by sashal on 3/31 @ 12:58 pm #
basically, Rob, that is one of the important characteristics of the communism-meddling in other people’s affairs and forcefully telling them how they are supposed to live their lives.”
Gee, sounds like the Democrats.
And I think I just figured out sashal’s problem with Hitch.
Hitch is a un-fascistic leftist.
and not only them, JD , as the GOP does not differ much from Dems in that regard…
“#Comment by sashal on 3/31 @ 1:10 pm #
and not only them, JD , as the GOP does not differ much from Dems in that regard…”
Wrong again.
Conservatives want to govern.
Reactionary leftists want to rule.
#24
poor , poor O’Brain, with such a mess in his brain
Maybe we just don’t get all that excited about Hillary lying about something. Kinda like putting your foot in really hot water. In a little while you will pay no attention to it. I am not sure she could tell any lie that would really excite the MSM or her supporters.
basically, Rob, that is one of the important characteristics of the communism-meddling in other people’s affairs and forcefully telling them how they are supposed to live their lives
There are prisons in the world, are all wardens now communist?
Come on, Sashal! Call us Trotskyites and Bolshevists again! You know you want to!
so, rocks, did you enjoy SOME works of Lenin or Marx ?
No, I thought they were pieces of shit.
“the GOP does not differ much from Dems in that regard…”
I know you weren’t born here, but if you are going to comment on this blog, try to evidence just a little basic understanding of the difference between our two major political parties. As I said, your dishonesty is boring.
“#Comment by sashal on 3/31 @ 1:12 pm #
#24
poor , poor O’Brain, with such a mess in his brain”
That’s funny, coming from a reactionary leftist.
sashal – I gotta give you credit though, you do a mean “I can smell oppression a mile away” dance because of your upbringing. What’s the background noise for that bit? I can’t seem to place it. Is it the Victim’s Petition For Redress?
I believe sashal meant to say “drink-soaked Trotskyite popinjay.”
lol, Pablo at # 34
# 30. Today is mine call everybody who wants 100 years of wars “commi bastard day”..
Because the Iraqis wanted rape rooms. They wanted a prison system that included industrial shredders. They wanted multiple genocide campaigns inside their borders.
And there you go, lying again.
Is it a reflex? Or are you just so ignorant, you don’t realize you’re lying?
I’m amazed that the isolationist right is in bed with the left in wanting to leave as many people as possible in tyranny. Is it contempt for other people? Is it base racism? Is it just plain unwillingness to lift a finger?
And justifying it in terms of not wanting to run others lives — breathtaking!
1. relax, Rob, can a guy have a joke about “commi bastard day”?
2. Rob, I don’t care if they wanted rape rooms, I do not care if they wanted prisons etc, It is their country, they decide(and there are more then dozen more authoritative regimes in the world)
And btw, Rob, as far as the fate of iraqis is of concern — are they still getting raped and killed even after Saddam is gone?
And as far as the liar in chief is concerned, we did not go there to get rid of the rape rooms( do you think that idea would have sold the war to general population?), we went there because Iraq was an immediate threat with WMDs , remember? That’s what you have been fed up before the march of 2003
#37 , you are either omnipotent God , or starry eyed idealist, or internationalist-socialist. In all cases you are dangerous to well being of other people in other countries with your collaterally damgeging help,Rob.
Conservative person would never ever say that Utopian fantastic crap you just said, Rob
” we went there because Iraq was an immediate threat with WMDs , remember?”
Which is what everyone thought.
Do you a point there, bunky?
# 40, go back to # 27
320 Old Texas Turkey:
Joe what middle name Wilson?!?!
Want to revisit and explain that one?
#41, go back to #32.
#43, proceed to #44. Ha, I can play this referential game, too!
Never mind, sashay, we’re winning the war.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/03/sadr_orders_follower.php
Bush lied, Iranian puppets died.
Good times, good times.
Yeah, when I want to know what American conservatism; I always consult the mouth piece of what some used to call
the’fascist’ regime of the Greek Colonels, whose exit strategy involved invading Cyprus.
Unlike Bill, Hillary is not “an unusually good liar”.
sashal may be right. Maybe we shouldn’t have spent all that blood and treasure bankrupting the USSR as the people of the USSR obviously wanted it that way; gulags and reeducation and all.
sashal doesn’t get America yet. Too bad. Maybe one day he will. Until then I will continue to ignore him for the fool that he is. His moral equivalence arguement is disgusting and an insult to generations of Americans who have died trying to free people oppressed by actual tyrants. The idea that freeing the Iraqis from Saddam in the name of human rights and decency is equal to the depradations of Communist governments is repugnant and vile.
You’re probably right. That’s why I’m “conservative” only in the American context, which means “classical liberal” — someone who believes in liberty, the spread of liberty, and the duty of free men to spread liberty.
At heart, every political thinker is a utopian. Anyone who has an idea of what would be the best way to govern — even if it’s a “cruel to be kind” fascist — is indulging in the notion that (1) there is a “best” way to govern, (2) they know what it is, and (3) given the chance, they could make it happen.
The only people to whom that doesn’t apply, are those who don’t consider anything at all beyond their own immediate needs and wants — and even then, they have to know that all those other people in the world have an annoying habit of getting in the way.
Mikey – reference to the Country that he is so enamoured with.
While their ends may be the same, I suspect their reasons are very different.
I think Evan Sayet, as over-the-top as he might be, has a point about the far left: Before you can deal with a tyrant you’ve got to be able to take a look at him, poke him with a stick, and say “yep, that’s a tyrant alright”. Someone so stubbornly non-judgemental that he can’t see the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter, or who speculates that those women are probably happy in their burqas (this one does look kinda happy!), isn’t going to be able to apply the “tyrant” label in the first place. “Don’t be so judgemental!” Thus, there’s no way to justify lifting a finger.
OTOH, the Buchananites are about as judgemental as you can get. Never having been one (I was raised a good little Communist [long ago mugged, buggered, tied up, and left for dead by reality, thanks]), I’m less comfortable trying to get into their heads, but their thing seems to be the old “standing athwart history screaming stop!” bit. They seem as eager to turn the clock back a few centuries as our jihadi buddies. They don’t care if women are happy in burqas, they’d like to put them in them anyway.. Or at least a nice skirt, below the knee, and no bare bellies please! “Get a haircut & lose the earring ya friggin’ hippie!” Whatever. They can’t see the difference between national self defense and “foreign entanglements” and their 18th century minds absolutely won’t accept — or can’t grasp — the idea of a global economy. Thus, they’re isolationists, not because they won’t judge or meddle in the business of others but because they foolishly think it’s a viable way to deal with current world events.
Meanwhile, although steadfastly refusing to see the wide world as it is and deal with it, neither of these extremes (nor most in between) can resist using the power of government to pursue their own visions of utopia within our borders. Unfortunately, they’ve long ago blurred the line between visionary and hallucinatory, with predictable results.
Make sense? I’m not at all wed to any of this, but I’m as boggled as anyone at the by turns foolish, feckless, and craven behavior of our political classes in the face of the challenges that confront our country. This election cycle is a good example: Right now this country needs a leader, but instead we’re offered the choice of Obama, Clinton II, or McCain. We live in a kakistocracy. We are so screwed..
I should probably add that the non-judgmentalism of the left seems only to apply to the “Other”. ‘They’re not like us. We haven’t walked in their sandals so we mustn’t judge them’. In this I do disagree with Sayet. The far left are perfectly capable of being judgmental of us and of this country, and they’ve found us sadly lacking in all possible ways.
At least that’s the only reasoning by which I can see someone arriving at the idea that Saddam Hussein is a victim of the eViL BuShHiTLer!!! Bush is evil (100%) but Saddam is a cypher (???), thus, in Left Math, the war in Iraq is 100% Bush’s fault and is nothing but bald imperialism. No way we could ever concede that anything good could come of that, hm?
I’ll leave it to someone else to attempt explaining why, to the hard left, it’s perfectly okay — even admirable! — to fuck up horribly so long as you had ostensible good intentions (Jimmy Carter), but you’re evil to the core if you do the right thing for what they view as the wrong reasons (George Bush).