Excitable Andy is in full swoon over Barack Obama defending gay rights from a Christian perspective to a largely black crowd in Beaumont, Texas:
It’s a break through. If it were just words, it would be one thing. But he has now done this repeatedly in front of black crowds, when he didn’t have to. And he has put his specific commitments in writing in an open letter.ÂÂ
It’s time to be candid about this – because gay voters, in my judgment, could make the difference in Ohio and Texas and Vermont and Rhode Island. There are very large gay communities in Texas’ cities, and Ohio has the sixth largest gay community in the country. A plea: Do not sleep-walk into that voting booth with vague good feelings about the Clintons. Walk into that booth with eyes open and see what gay people have in front of them.
Now you may have many reasons not to vote for Obama, and no gay voter should vote on one issue. But solely with respect to gay matters, there is simply no choice here. Obama’s positions, candor, courage, generation and religious embrace of us are dispositive.
It is time to be candid? Fine. Andrew Sullivan is a gullible nitwit. He has just written that he believes the gay vote may be crucial in four upcoming primaries and caucuses, then finds it courageous that Obama is now going after that bloc of votes.ÂÂ
Sullivan dismisses as a “flap” Obama’s prior association and defense of gay-bashing gospel singer Donnie McClurkin – the poster boy for African-American “ex-gay†ministries — when black evangelical votes in South Carolina were still up for grabs.ÂÂ
Sullivan — one of the nation’s leading advocates for gay marriage — does not even bother to mention that Obama shares the position of his spiritual advisor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, against gay marriage.
Obama speaking in this way to a largely black crowd is not courageous, particularly in light of the near-universal support he is now getting from black voters. Rather, it is part of Obama’s “Day of Cosby,” in which he also told a mostly black crowd that parents need to turn off the TV and videogames, help their kids with their homework and stop letting them grow fat eating Popeyes chicken for breakfast. It will be what the Obama camp points to the next time someone wants to ask him about the Rev. Wright or Louis Farrakhan. It is the calorie-free version of a Sister Souljah moment, right out of the Clinton ’92 playbook, as so much of his campaign is. Indeed, Obama and Wright have already agreed that Obama will publicly separate himself from Wright if it becomes politically expedient for him to do so in the general election.
This is another variation on this morning’s story about Obama on trade. Obama will say whatever he thinks he needs to say at the moment to advance his campaign, which is to say that he is a typical politician, rather than the Obamessiah pictured on Sullivan’s site today.
Of course, Sullivan has a history of falling for much more ridiculous fare, so this is not a revelation in the larger sense.
Update: What do you think the Left would say if John McCain started talking about blacks needing to lay off the fried chicken breakfasts?
Update x2: Hot Air-lanche!
Well, for one thing, they’d probably say he pronounces “breakfast” really strangely. ;-P
Yeah, I misspelt breffast. Fixed.
Also . . . I don’t understand why they support that imperialist cracker, Popeye.
heh, Karl, you aren’t going to pull the old Goldstein, “what’s wrong with breakfast?” ;D
Yeah, but Barack is probably hung like a mule, while Hillary has enormous testicles but no actual penis. So, which one is dreamy? Gotta be Barack.
Do you want some sort of substance or 4-8 years of spank fantasy? We can see where Andy lands on that.
I’m not saying St. Andy’s got jungle fever, mind you. I’m just airing it out.
Let me posit that they are the Clintons circa 1992. A little lighter (oops, was that racist?) in experience and no known (AFAIK) sex scandals for the Obamessiah, but otherwise they seem to have a lot in common. If Obama wins, look for Michelle to run for Senate soon after his term ends.
Imagine Hillary living long enough to see Michelle Obama run for POTUS claiming Barack’s experience…and getting the nomination.
Wow, that’s cruel even for me.
What about all the homos in Massatoosits?
E Buzz,
The have had to live with the failure of Gov. Deval Patrick, who also ran on the platform of hopeyness and changitude.
“I need you to turn off the TVs so you can be a fine upstanding family like you saw in us when we put that Chrissmuss Ad on TV. Remember that ad? Now that was must-see TV. Can I get an Ayeeeemen? HIGHEEE! HEPME!”
Dammit, my James Brown regulator just went on the fritz. TUCHMASEFF!!
sorry
You know, I think he ought to determine to award a Cabinet position to a gay black guy.
What do you think the Left would say if John McCain started talking about blacks needing to lay off the fried chicken breakfasts?
I think every one will condemn John McCain, the same way if Obama would be if he started talking about Irish needing to lay of the booze.
Your initial post was more inciteful than that question
Returning for a moment to what Obama actually said that got Sully all lathered up.
Obama said not much at all.
Obama said he’s heard people say unChristian things about gays and lesbians, in his opinion. Wow. Day-umnnnnnnnn. Alert the Gideon’s, add another Beattitude to the Bible: “And the rock-ribbed shall inherit the Democratic Presidential Nomination”
I’ll chalk this up to Andrew’s uncanny ability to hear exactly what he wants to hear, regardless of what the candidate or elected official actually says and the fact that the price for Andrew’s infatuated endorsement is exceedingly low.
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btw – Andrew’s next book will be titled “Rove Undetectable: Reflections on Obama, Sweetness, and Light.”
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Gullible nitwit is a great line, Karl, but deconstructing EA is a bit of the ol’ fish, barrel, shoot.
Did you miss the Dim debate the other night?
Old Uncle Barry pronounces Massachusetts, Massatoosits.
He kept on doing it…
Strong, mental, tough, rigid.
i have sympathy for sully.
GW screwed the gay over marriage rights just like he screwed us scientists over ESCR.
O is just simply hope for both of us.
no wonder we are obamotaku.
jdm–
It takes a constant effort to see what’s right in front of your face.
So it’s apparently fine with America’s Last True Conservative if a politician is against gay marriage — just so long as that politician’s other views are sufficiently liberal.
Got it. I think.
obamakhans.
Obamamaniacs, bound to take over the world!
What did he promise them? What did he promise over embryonic stem-cells?
You can’t be “screwed” by expecting something without having any reason to expect it. Just like Obamabots can’t be screwed because they’re projecting their desires on him without any evidence to support those desires.
But they will scream loud and long when the Obamessiah doesn’t wipe their figurative butts for them anyway. That’s who they are.
They will scream long and loud because he has allowed them to tell themselves what he will do, and when he doesn’t do that (having no way of knowing what it is anyway) they will scream “Betrayal!”
I have no sympathy whatever for Sullivan.
If Bush hadn’t done what he did, the FMA would have been ratified by twenty-three states by now, and debate would be raging in California over whether or not a Constitutional amendment could be ratified by initiative and referendum.
Similarly, if Bush hadn’t acted as he did — including “reaching across the aisle” — ESCR would be totally unfunded by NIH, etc., and “new line” establishment would be flatly illegal.
The older I get, the more I despise optimists. The shrieking horror when reality fails to meet their expectations in any slightest way is damned annoying.
Regards,
Ric
Sorry, Dan, I was having a Captain Bringdown moment. Sorry to you too, Karl.
With any luck, Sharon will post her rant on this topic too and everyone will forgot.
jdm,
I took no offense. It is true. However, more people will digest the underlying point about Obama if it is couched as a deconstruction of Sullivan. I’m sneaky that way. Sometimes. Other times I’m uncool and professorial. But I can use those pieces as building blocks for posts like this. I’m sneaky that way, too.
I’m sneaky that way, too.
I noticed a few days ago how you digressed into all sorts of Hollywood gossip and videos and other similar shenanigans. You’re sneaky that way too.
Heh.
“GW screwed the gay over marriage rights just like he screwed us scientists over ESCR.”
Dr. Demento has better scientific credentials than you do.
GW screwed the gay over marriage rights just like he screwed us scientists over ESCR.
I don’t recall the particular section of the Constitution that says scientists have a right to tax dollars for whatever research they want. If you can’t get a job in the private sector doing ESCR, you might want to reconsider your chosen field of research or maybe even career path. If you can’t convince any of the private Companies that could benefit from said research to hire you, maybe *their* scientists are on to something you are ignoring or don’t want to acknowledge.
Or maybe get on board with non-embrionic SCR, as this shows much more promise than ESCR ever has, like what they are coming up with with placental SCR.
I am sick of over educated leeches crying and whining about how their getting “screwed” simply because they don’t get a welfare check to conduct research. Just like how people in the medical field are pushing for universal HC coverage; another welfare check. wah wah wah. All that education and they’re still stupid enough to beleive in socialism.
But, then again, nishi thinks that a fertalised egg isn’t a potential life of any kind, despite biological fact to the contrary. She thinks if she calls it by its latin/greek and IDs it as a cell cluster, that her word magic transforms it into a not-life thing which then can be excised and dismissed with no qualms.
The older I get, the more I despise optimists. The shrieking horror when reality fails to meet their expectations in any slightest way is damned annoying.
I might have to have that put on a t-shirt.
There are no hypocrites on the Left.
Haven’t we long passed the point where anyone really cares whether that flatulent gasbag lives or dies?
But Popey’s makes gooood chicken! And biscuits yum. Wish they had one closer to me.
B Moe,
© 2008, Society of Pessimists.
No, I don’t expect you’ll pay up.
Regards,
Ric
You should vote your gay, he says. He just comes out and says dude, if you like dick, you really need to be voting for Obama. For real, dude, he’s like totally the candidate for you. Not that nasty Hillary.
I just don’t think that sounds very intelligent. My gay was limp and lifeless. Then I voted Obama. Whatever. Did Andrew go to college?
“There are no hypocrites on the Left.”
We have always been at war with Oceana
#12 Dan – award a Cabinet position to a gay black guy…
We talkin’ Oprah?
Cake boy ping!!!
Yeah, there’s a ton of distance between Obama and Wright evident throughout that linked NY Times article (first referenced by Sean Hannity today, so at least you’re looking at the result of the newest oppo research)!
I was amazed, especially, at the “distance” this sentence reflected: “Though the Obamas drop in on other congregations, they treat Trinity as their spiritual home, attending services frequently.”
WOW!! ONLY frequent attendance? One wonders what sort of distance that evinces? Perhaps, the Obamas lived with Wright prior to the campaign?
Seriously, with two wars, stagflation, a mortgage crisis, the recent veto of of Iraqi provincial levels, questioning the likely Dem candidate’s patriotism and Christianity is ALL the right wing has?
There has to be more, than “pick the liberal Republican, because the liberal Dem is a BAAADDDD man!”
Tell me you have ANYTHING substantive to oppose him on, Mr. Karl, besides your discomfort for his minister. I think my plumber is shady. I suppose I should be judged on his political views, my accountant’s, and oh, I think the barista was wearing a Che button…You have more than guilt by association? Right?
Also Obama loves the gays in Christ. This is key.
So… what did he say about the Christian perspective on gay issues? I looked at both those links and he said NOTHING. Not a single thing whatsoever other than that some unchristian sentiments were heard. Which ones were those?
I want to know what he actually said about it. It CAN’T have been only what was quoted.
Actually, no, it’s not all the right has. For one, it has refutation of most of the bizarro-world talking points you’re spewing.
Then there’s the host of other issues. Like, oh, I dunno, having real policies and not just slappy-happy rhetoric that makes morons like nishi moist.
WOW!! ONLY frequent attendance? One wonders what sort of distance that evinces? Perhaps, the Obamas lived with Wright prior to the campaign?
“Frequent” as in Wright married the Obamas, baptised their kids, and blessed their house. Frequent enough for you?
Obama rides around in limos with strange men, trading cocaine and blowjobs (and possibly even “bare-backing”); whom the hell did you expect Sully to endorse?
barryL…
Everything I needed to move a little further along the path towards voting for McCain.
Idiot.
Tell me you have ANYTHING substantive to oppose him on, Mr. Karl, besides your discomfort for his minister.
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Here you go.
“I’ll chalk this up to Andrew’s uncanny ability to hear exactly what he wants to hear” OOOHHHH I love it! Any blog making fun of Andrew Sullivan is a friend blog to mine. Although I have yet to make my 2 page long epic blog post excoriating A.S. that I’ve planned for ages.
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