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Road Kill Complains [Dan Collins]

A conservative radio talk-show host said that “he’s had it up to here” with Sen. John McCain after the GOP presidential candidate repudiated the commentator’s remarks about Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama at a campaign event.  art.cunningham.ap.jpg John McCain threw me under a bus — under the ‘Straight Talk Express,’ ” Bill Cunningham told CNN on Tuesday, referring to McCain’s campaign bus. 

You know, I’m not a big McCain fan, but fuck off, douchebag.

And you, too, douchebag.

110 Replies to “Road Kill Complains [Dan Collins]”

  1. nishizonoshinji says:

    hahaha
    oh, its starting.
    sweet. this is a good time for the diligent study of evil.
    ;)

  2. Saul Goode says:

    Dan..

    If you had ever listened to Willie, you wouldn’t have this reaction. He’s been on the air in Cincinnati for years. It’s his schtick. He’s just a wiseass screwball who loves tweaking people. He’s smart as a whip too. He was asked by campaign organizers to toss out huge chunks of red meat to get the crowd going, and that’s what he did. He has his tongue planted firmly in cheek when talking about being thrown under the bus.
    Trust me,he’s going to milk this for a while.

  3. Dan Collins says:

    All right, Saul. I’ll take your word for it.
    But what I’ve said, I’ve said, saith Pontius. I’ll apologize for my inappropriate remarks when he does.

  4. B Moe says:

    The focus of all the talk today was that he three times referred to the anointed one as Barrack Hussein Obama. Apparently calling someone by their proper name is an offensive smear now.

  5. Dan Collins says:

    I don’t even know what McCain’s middle name is.

  6. Dan Collins says:

    You don’t hear me bitching about nobody giving me props for the Jambi thing . . . which is so wrong on so many levels that I thought I’d get SOME reaction.

  7. Al Maviva says:

    I don’t have a problem with McCain saying what he did. It was shockingly presidential of him, and I thought Cunningham’s muslim-baiting was pretty moronic and inappropriate.

    That said, McCain’s comments align with one of the talking point pillars of conventional wisdom floated in the MSM, that to win, McCain needs to do three things:

    1) cut ties with social conservatives, the 20 or 30 million mindless zombies whose every act is controlled by rabid preachers, like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell’s Ghost;

    2) cut ties with the 30+ million conservative talk radio listeners, who are mindless zombies controlled by every word that issues forth from the Mouth of Rush; and,

    3) tell the libertarians and small government types who tend to vote Republican (social liberal, fiscal conservatives) to pound sand on 1st Amendment and other social control issues.

    Yeah, that sounds like pretty good strategy to me – tell all three major elements of the ‘conservative movement’ to go f*** themselves, preferably repeatedly, preferably in a high profile manner.

    Frankly, I don’t see how it can miss.

  8. nishizonoshinji says:

    well i lurvs PeeWee’s playhouse, and that was a stellar photoshop.
    but wafa is just another member of the angry estogen posse, and she isnt even cute.
    at least Hirsii Ali is moderately telegenic.

  9. Dan Collins says:

    Well, if it’s any consolation, he’s got a bit over at NRO on Dead Buckley.

  10. nishizonoshinji says:

    hahaha, al Maviva spot on!

  11. Roy Mustang says:

    Mr. Cunningham apparently has a Michelle Obama size sense of entitlement.

  12. Log Cabin says:

    Yeah, using Obama’s full name is Muslim baiting.

    The same way saying John Fitzgerald Kennedy was Irish baiting.

    The same way calling Bush “W” is WASP baiting.

  13. Slartibartfast says:

    I don’t even know what McCain’s middle name is.

    Exactly. Only convicted mass murderers have middle names. John Wayne Gacy. Robert Lee Yates. David Allan Coe. I could be wrong about that last.

    But, for reference: Sidney. That‘s why they’re not mentioning it.

  14. Slartibartfast says:

    preferably in a high profile manner

    Preferably with something sharp, too.

  15. syn says:

    That’s funny, for the last seven years McCain has been saying to Conservatives, Libertarians, evangelicals and talk radio hosts to ‘Fuck off, douchebags’, so I guess you can call it an even draw.

  16. Dan Collins says:

    There are a lot of reasons to put a foot into BHO. None of them is his middle name.

  17. kelly says:

    Sidney? Really?

    Not that I have much room to laugh.

  18. Dan Collins says:

    C’mon. You guys know I’m not exactly Mr. PC, I hope. But I almost unsubscribed from Michael Zak’s emails this morning when I got this:
    “On this day in 2007, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.” In an interview with The New York Times, Obama recited, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent,” the opening lines of this prayer:
    ‘Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah. I witness that there is no god but Allah. I witness that Muhammad is his prophet…’
    This article is available on the Grand Old Partisan blog — http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com.”

  19. Roy Mustang says:

    And Liberals, syn. McCain just likes to call bulls***, period.

    Case in point:
    http://obama.senate.gov/letter/060206-sen_obama_and_sen_mccain_exchange_letters_on_ethics_reform/index.html

  20. Roy Mustang says:

    Dear Senator Obama:

    I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions….

    Sincerely,

    John McCain
    United States Senate

  21. nishizonoshinji says:

    hehe…none of that is going to work.
    President Obama
    sah-weet!

  22. happyfeet says:

    Really though it was smart for McCain to do that. It was just like three weeks ago he was getting tagged after that debate for his mean streak. The one where he was kind of a dick to Romney.

  23. JD says:

    There are so many reasons to not vote for Barry O. His race, name, and religion are not amongst them.

  24. JD says:

    That letter to the disingenuous Barry O was brilliant.

  25. Dan Collins says:

    Geez, nish. Stop it with the Salacious Crumb imitation.

  26. mojo says:

    I’m not voting for him because he’s a Chicago pol, and that’s enough warning for me.

  27. nishizonoshinji says:

    haha..okfine Dan.
    feets is right…mccain handled that well.

    he learns faster than bilary that is for sure.

  28. nishizonoshinji says:

    wow….sidney….that is so…like gay.
    isnt that a grrls name?

  29. Larry J says:

    1) cut ties with social conservatives, the 20 or 30 million mindless zombies whose every act is controlled by rabid preachers, like James Dobson and Jerry Falwell’s Ghost;

    2) cut ties with the 30+ million conservative talk radio listeners, who are mindless zombies controlled by every word that issues forth from the Mouth of Rush; and,

    3) tell the libertarians and small government types who tend to vote Republican (social liberal, fiscal conservatives) to pound sand on 1st Amendment and other social control issues.

    Yeah, that sounds like pretty good strategy to me – tell all three major elements of the ‘conservative movement’ to go f*** themselves, preferably repeatedly, preferably in a high profile manner.

    I saw a comment on another blog a couple weeks ago that stimulated some thought. Perhaps we conservatives are the new RINOs. Perhaps McCain, Snow, et. al. are the new face of the Republican Party.

    Reagan used to say that “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. It left me.”

    Perhaps that’s now happened with the Republican Party. It has left me. I’m seriously considering changing my voter registration to independent. Being told that I must vote for McCain because the other side will suck even worse doesn’t exactly inspire me.

  30. Terrye says:

    Look at that pic, look at the people behind him. Do they look happy? I saw some of this on the news and it was obvious that the people who were there were not getting a kick out of Cunningham, he was acting like a jerk. And it was not just Obama, he was making fun of Madeline Albright’s looks as well. Now I know the lady is not a looker or anything, but McCain is not on Comedy Central, he is running for President. And this guy’s performance was tacky. And if conservatives want McCain to suck up to them more, then maybe they need to stop and remember there is a larger audience out there. Besides, McCain was not going after conservatives, he was distancing himself from this particular jerk. McCain has an overall approval rating of 61% among voters and he needs that if he is going to win.

  31. Dan Collins says:

    Can I change my voter registration to “Whatever”?

  32. Jeff G. says:

    I’m changing mine to OUTRAGED!

  33. Rob Crawford says:

    Sadly, Cunningham’s best point was lost in his shtick: that the press has given a free pass to Obama, despite there being plenty of dirt to expose. Oh, and that a machine pol from Chicago isn’t likely to be the incorruptible his fanboys believe him to be…

  34. Jeff G. says:

    Hey, what did Coulter say today? Anything? Because this site needs some thinky posts!

    I PREEMPTIVELY DISTANCE MYSELF FROM ALL THAT NEEDS PREEMPTIVE DISTANCING! BECAUSE I AM NOT THEM, PEOPLE — AND I DON’T CARE WHO KNOWS IT!

  35. Dan Collins says:

    What? Did I put faggot in the title to the post again?

  36. Dan Collins says:

    It’s all right, Jeff. Remember . . . you’ve always already denounced it, whatever it is.

  37. B Moe says:

    The important thing, is that McCain didn’t hear the act, hadn’t been told what was said even. The press told him to jump, so he jumped. He knows who is friends are.

  38. Dan Collins says:

    Maybe, B Moe. On the other hand, maybe he thought that if he didn’t distance himself, the spin would have put him in a posture that he didn’t want to be in.

  39. B Moe says:

    …the spin would have put him in a posture that he didn’t want to be in.

    I think he is quite familiar, and comfortable, with his posture regarding the press. He assumed the position along time ago.

  40. Dan Collins says:

    You’d want to have to answer questions about your opponent’s middle name?

  41. sashal says:

    Much ado about nothing….
    There is nothing wrong with being Muslim, just something wrong when you can’t call someone by their own name.

    What if the guy’ who runs for the Prime-minister post of Israel middle name is Adolf. Does he have a chance?

    Disclaimer. I actually knew a few Jewish friends, acquaintances with that name.

  42. Doug says:

    Well can we call him Barry “Che” Obama?

  43. barryL says:

    In my short time here, I have NEVER agreed with Dan or JD’s observations (on second thought, Dan, you might want to reconsider your opinion based on my lauding of you here), but they are dead on. There are plenty of reasons to attack Obama if you are a Republican (start with the leftist policies and proceed to “what has he done?”), but the Muslim baiting is a terrible mode of attack.

    As for Cunningham, his main contribution to the conservative movement is selling the right to say “You’re a Great American” to Hannity and race-baiting Cincinnati into the most racially violent and divisive city in the Midwest (IMHO). Few places are as close to race riots every summer as Cincinnati and few people are more willing to help divide people along racial line than William Hussein Cunningham

  44. psycho... says:

    As long as you understand that regardless of the depth of your non-resemblance to Cunningham, it’s you, Republican voter, the image in McCain’s mind of who you are, for whom Cunningham has only functioned metonymically, that you’re applauding McCain for disdaining, this is all fine.

    But you might note that if you, the real you, were anywhere in McCain’s mind, he’d have winked around disclaiming this and basically said, “That guy’s not me. So what?” That’s what Obama does for his Jew-hating pals, because he thinks more highly of them than McCain does of you.

    “Know your role,” as they say.

    (White trans., “Eat shit.”)

  45. JD says:

    Jeff G – I denounce your denunciations in a quasi-anti-manner.

  46. JD says:

    barryL – I am proud. Thank you. Baby steps. You will come around, eventually.

    JDist !::!!!!!!!!!!

  47. Yeah this guy is acting weak.

  48. barryL says:

    JD, I denounce Jeff’s denouncement the future and demand all denouncing be done only in contemporaneous settings. In that vein, I denounce my own recent viewing of Lindsay Lohan’s nude photos. It was wrong and I denounce myself for doing things which require I denounce them at the same time.

  49. Timstigator says:

    Cunningham at least was consistent with Cunningham. His performance hasn’t varied at all. He understands too well what makes good radio ratings. He actually had a good relationship with the infamous local black separatist off the air.

  50. McGehee says:

    As far as I’m concerned, too much is being made of Obama’s middle name on both sides of the question. It’s one thing for people to wave it around in an attempt to liken him somehow to Saddam Hussein, but the reaction to such antics (including in this thread, IMO) is no less irrational.

    Maybe we should call him “Barack H-word Obama.”

  51. B Moe says:

    All I know, if someone else calling your opponent by his fucking name is considered dirty politics, McCain is in for a long campaign. If Obama is ashamed of his name, he should change it. Otherwise quitcher bitchin.

  52. Scrapiron says:

    McCain just assured there will be a blank at the top of my ballot. Calling Hussein Obama HUSSEIN Obama is not slander. The computer ballot ask, are you sure, and I’ll answer, yes.

  53. Dan Collins says:

    Man, and I thought his middle name was “Fuckin'”.

  54. Doug says:

    Barry O:

    Big time leftist: check
    Big Pali supporter: check
    Weak on Iraq: check
    Weak on Israel: check
    Big on talking to tyrants: check
    Big on big gov’t: check

    Maybe the leftist – Islamic convergence might be of interest? But please don’t utter Barak “Che-Hussein” Obama

  55. Dan Collins says:

    Um . . . all of those things are interesting, except for his middle name.
    I’d have thought my prior post on the Big O would have made clear my interest in those things.

  56. Doug says:

    “Um . . . all of those things are interesting, except for his middle name.”
    I just don’t understand why you have vitriol for a known Ohio radio talk show host like Cunningham who was hired by the fine Juan McCain campaign to warm up the crowd at a McCain rally in Ohio. I believe the whole thing was a staged “uniter not a divider” thing. Too bad some people couldn’t have also fainted. You don’t like “Che-Hussein”?

  57. Dan Collins says:

    I like “Fuckin'” better. Or Tupac Chopra.

  58. Slartibartfast says:

    All I know, if someone else calling your opponent by his fucking name is considered dirty politics, McCain is in for a long campaign.

    Of course, and I’m sure John Sidney McCain III would agree, as would Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, Ronald Earnest Paul and Michael Dale Huckabee. Possibly even Nancy Patricia D’Alesandro Pelosi would also agree.

    If we’re using full names, here, we may as well be consistent.

  59. Dan Collins says:

    Also, his ears are big. Jughead big.

  60. B Moe says:

    Man, and I thought his middle name was “Fuckin’”.

    That wouldn’t be very ladylike, Dan.
    http://tinyurl.com/yvqqnx

  61. B Moe says:

    As nishi pointed out the other day, McCain is old and short, and Obama is not doubt going to try to emphasize it. Is that dirty politics? To play on peoples prejudices against old people? Short people? Will the press be offended on McCain’s behalf when Obama does this? Will they immediately confront Obama? Should Obama apologize, and distance himself from anyone who points out that McCain is old and short? Will I ever run out of quasi-rhetorical questions?

  62. Dan Collins says:

    Will we know when you have?

  63. Doug says:

    “I like “Fuckin’”

    But “Che-Hussein” sounds almost like a yuppie restaurant where you can dine like the proletariat or the uhmma.

  64. Smarty says:

    The real problem is, McCain was forced to deal with what the guy said. If anyone smart was involved, they would have had Cunningham say his schtick at an even where McCain wouldn’t be forced to show his sleazy, liberal appeasing side.

    Honestly, he goes out of his way to call socialist scumbags honorable, and to call heartfelt conservatives misguided or hot headed and worse.

    His priorities suck.

    If We could have a perfect world, Obama would get the presidency, and one part of the legislature. If the GOP were to have some young guns take over one house by 1 vote, it would stall the dems, and meanwhile, a McCain loss would hopefully wreck the GOP establishment, and allow for a rebirth.

  65. nishizonoshinji says:

    fanboys, otaku heh!
    oh jeffie i lurvs u soooooooooo much!
    Obamataku!
    really i get all my best stuff here.

  66. thor says:

    Two former-POW-war-hero thumbs up for Senator Jonn Sydney McCain. McCain is such a stud. Didn’t hesistate, he just freaking stomped on that airbag.

    McCain’s gonna first take out the rear enemy flank. Class.

  67. nishizonoshinji says:

    and O has already started…like in complimenting mccain and thankin him for his service t’other day he phrased it like a retirement speech or an eulogy.
    it was beautifully subtle.
    and rancour-proof.
    and no one will need to point out that mccain is old and short…..its visual.

  68. JD says:

    nishi is going to make me vote for McCain.

    I think McCain was spot on on this one, but let’s be quite clear. This was just one dodge. The media and greivance mongers are just waiting to completely fucking bastardize the english language where calling someone articulate is racist, and will hammer McCain with countless made up slights, slurs, etc…

    Telling the truth is a smear. Using a whole name is a smear. Cannot wait to find out what comes next.

  69. Dan Collins says:

    It’s not a smear. It’s a red herring.

  70. McGehee says:

    If anyone smart was involved

    …they would have known Cunningham’s shtick before asking him to appear at the damn thing, and would have decided accordingly on whether to have him appear.

    Either Sidney screwed up, or someone he hired to handle the event screwed up — which in the Executive world is the same as Sidney screwing up.

  71. MC says:

    Seems at this point that even Don Rickles won’t be able to include BarryO (I didn’t even think BarryHO, wouldn’t go there, for the DENOUNCICROSY!!!) in a monologue.

  72. thor says:

    Say what you want, say what you will, but McCain basically sent the message “you represent me with class or you’ll eat the microphone I loaned you.” That’s the way it should be.

    Johnny Mac scores.

  73. happyfeet says:

    nicely put, thor. Kind of gack but that’s probably cause I’m still almost virginal in the ways of the McCain love, but nicely put. I only cringed just a little.

  74. JD says:

    So we’re clear, Barry Fucking has been screened, vetted, and cleared for everyday usage.

  75. guinsPen says:

    really i get all my best stuff here

    jnk2

  76. lee says:

    When I become a big shot, I’m going to invite some one to do their usual shtick as an opener for me…then apologize for their performance.

    You know, for the classiness of it all!

  77. Jeff G. says:

    Contrived sister souljah moment. I ain’t buying it. And I ain’t outraged by it, either — except at how predictable it’s all become.

    I think we should open up the primaries to include animals. There are a couple of egrets I know who’d make better presidents than anyone still in the race.

  78. Dan Collins says:

    Victorious egret. Rrrrrrrrowrrrrr.

  79. happyfeet says:

    That was funny, about the egret. I’m gonna miss you, D.

  80. thor says:

    Lasting Republican primary bitterness is a jagged kidney stone too slow in passing, not to mention it sounds like it’s the size of Dan Rather’s head.

    Speaking of heads, anyone selling cartoonish Johnny Mac and Obambam bobble heads yet? Dan, get China on the phone and let’s turn a profit.

  81. Ric Locke says:

    I think something went by you. It may be because you haven’t the background.

    I was in the Navy when the Forrestal fire happened. As a result of the rumors that went around, including late-night conversations over San Miguel in Olongapo with people I knew and trusted, I will go to my grave convinced that LCDR John S. McCain, USN, fat-fingered a switch in his Scooter and killed people, and the Navy, for all kinds of reasons (many of which have nothing to do with any particular individual including McCain), covered it up. I’ve said before I don’t like McCain. That’s the reason.

    I’ve got nothing, you understand — rumor and innuendo; I don’t even remember the names of most of the people involved. My testimony, pro or con, is worthless. But there are lots and lots of people still around, some of them with deep burns and/or missing extremities, who were directly involved. McCain’s shot at the Swift Boat Vets wasn’t intended for them, really. It was a shot across the bows of any Forrestal survivors who might be inclined to dig up old dirt, true or otherwise.

    There really is nobody for me to vote for in this election. I may not even bother to go down to the schoolhouse and vote against Hillary! on March 4th.

    Regards,
    Ric

  82. Ric Locke says:

    Oh, and about the animals, I’m thoroughly in agreement. I’ve got what my wife insists is a “male donkey” out back, and he’s pretty bright, considering. It would elevate the tone somewhat to include a real jackass in the race, no?

    Regards,
    Ric

  83. Wild Bill Keller says:

    It would elevate the tone somewhat to include a real jackass in the race, no?

    Um, if nominated, um, I will not run.

    And, um, if elected I will not, um, serve.

  84. datadave says:

    clunk! That key fits the biographical tumbler perfecto, Ric. Considered a poor pilot only there due to nepotism, McCain’s actions after the horrid incident speak of guilt and shame. But an accident by all accounts and he’s shown an aptitude for redemption such as his concern for a dying rival Arizona politician and Presidential contender (and my choice over Carter for sure), Mo’ Udall, in Udall’s final travails as a victim of Parkinson’s Disease. But one has to worry if McCain’s ready for the nuclear trigger. And Obama’s response to the cheap shots by McCain in the so-called bipartisan agenda McCain had shows a legalistic mind honed for real leadership. (Bipartisanship can’t be equated with a union of Lieberman and McCain for instance.)

    Thank you for real straight talkn’, Ric. And same for JD and Dan: You the Man. Cunningham on CNN was a laugh-riot and not one to give protein wisdom (‘red meat’) to the likely readers here. What a large mouth that guy had. Made Julia Robert’s and Jimmy Carter’s tooth-somes look like Lily Tomlin’s.

  85. thor says:

    Hot gassers from your manginas will not propel your swiftboats.

    Be afraid, McCain can stab your eyes out with his microphine while ripping your spine out with his free hand. He had jungle combat training, just so you know.

  86. guinsPen says:

    And Obama’s response to the cheap shots by McCain in the so-called bipartisan agenda McCain had shows a legalistic mind honed for real leadership.

    But not keenly honed enough to not take calls from Tony Rezko.

  87. Slartibartfast says:

    a couple of egrets I know

    Egrets, I’ve had a few.
    But then again, too few to mention.

  88. Egrets, I’ve had a few.
    But then again, too few to mention.

    they taste like chicken, right?

  89. Victor. says:

    It’s fascinating to see the speed of dramatic change in societal sensibilities. For example:

    “Dubya and his neo-con buddies are promoting policies that are dictatorial and fascistic in nature.”

    vs.

    “B. Hussein Obama is campaigning on a platform of getting all of America’s enemies together and singing Cum-bay-Ah.”

    One of these comments demands that it be rejected and that the author be repudiated as fast as possible, while the other passes for the main stream thought of a political party that gets regurgitated daily in the media.

    I just think it’s worth noting.

  90. Victor. says:

    Not sure if this topic has died on the vine, but if you’re still out there Jeff, I thought of a possible nickname that you might consider….

    “Tilting Quixote”.

    And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, “Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless.”

    “What giants?” asked Sancho Panza.

    “Those you see over there,” replied his master, “with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length.”

    “Take care, sir,” cried Sancho. “Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone.”

    “Sancho” just sounds real pussy, although…..

  91. nishizonoshinji says:

    wait…im confused….who is the other douchebag?
    charlesjohnson or mccain?

  92. Slartibartfast says:

    they taste like chicken, right?

    Not done My Way, they don’t.

  93. Ric Locke says:

    Datadave and others, I urge you in the strongest possible terms not to try to run with that. You will get slammed for “swiftboating”, and this time it will be absolutely true.

    I’ve got nothing — not even enough peripheral details to generate a credible rumor. The whole thing is nothing but a poisonous personal prejudice that may be completely off base. I recounted it simply to illustrate a particular campaign tactic others might have missed through lack of familiarity with the context.

    Regards,
    Ric

  94. Rob Crawford says:

    barryL:

    race-baiting Cincinnati into the most racially violent and divisive city in the Midwest (IMHO). Few places are as close to race riots every summer as Cincinnati and few people are more willing to help divide people along racial line than William Hussein Cunningham

    Bullshit. Anything Cunningham might say pales in comparison to the antics of “urban” radio. Hell, the mainstream press stokes the fires more than Willy ever could — by treating the black race baiters and hustlers as if they’re respectable members of the community.

  95. Slartibartfast says:

    The official story, Ric, is that a rocket hit either McCain’s plane or one near it. It’d be tough to fake that, I think, with so many eyes around. I’d think there’d have to be a coordinated coverup.

    And yes, I know: not out of the question. You can bet Obama and Clinton are probably looking up survivors, though, and considering how they might best pry information, or plausible disinformation, loose.

  96. Slartibartfast says:

    I’d imagine there’d want to be a weight-on-wheels lockout on weapons release, but I know that the WoW switch is sometimes fussy, and can ruin your whole day as far as launching weapons is concerned.

  97. Education Guy says:

    The official story, Ric, is that a rocket hit either McCain’s plane or one near it. It’d be tough to fake that, I think, with so many eyes around. I’d think there’d have to be a coordinated coverup.

    I recall seeing film of the actual incident on the History channel that shows McCain getting out of one of the burning planes. The only one I can find online is this one, which is of really poor quality. I did find this one, but it’s a McCain video.

  98. Larry J says:

    I was in the Navy when the Forrestal fire happened. As a result of the rumors that went around, including late-night conversations over San Miguel in Olongapo with people I knew and trusted, I will go to my grave convinced that LCDR John S. McCain, USN, fat-fingered a switch in his Scooter and killed people, and the Navy, for all kinds of reasons (many of which have nothing to do with any particular individual including McCain), covered it up. I’ve said before I don’t like McCain. That’s the reason.

    I’ve seen the camera footage of the Forrestal fire. McCain was sitting in an A-4 that was hit by a Zuni missile from another plane. Unless you somehow think his plane had a remote control to launch a Zuni from another plane, you should admit that your rumor is bullshit.

    I don’t like McCain but this rumor is a crock.

  99. MarkD says:

    I think McCain is owed an apology. I’m no McCain fan, but to even insinuate that someone is responsible for the deaths of over 100 sailors when there is evidence to the contrary is somewhere between despicable and evil.

  100. happyfeet says:

    Oh. I said a lot worse about him before Super Tuesday. He’s a pretty tough guy. No worries I don’t think, and I seriously doubt were this to get hashed out in the media it wouldn’t just highlight what a lightweight Baracky is.

  101. happyfeet says:

    Also, Haditha.

  102. Every time McAmnesty speaks, he drives me further away from voting for him. Its like a week will pass, and he wont intentionally say “fuck you” to me, and I almost start thinking I could pull the lever for him. Then he opens his mouth unzips his pants and gives it to me right in that ass without any lube even.

    Fuck that clown, he will lose to whomever he goes up against.

  103. Education Guy says:

    Well the good news is that McCain is only planning to kick you in the balls some of the time. The bad news is that he plans to outsource that job to illegal undocumented Mexican immigrants.

  104. McGehee says:

    I’m going to have to throw in with EG, Larry J and MarkD, and would further caution against this line of attack on Sidney. After all, the most damning claims about John Kerry’s service in Vietnam were made by Kerry himself, not by the so-called “swiftboaters.”

  105. thor says:

    That is low. McCain gets charred over half his body, around 140 sailors are killed and I don’t how many more were wounded yet some dick thinks just because McCain’s not “his guy” in the election that that in itself is green light to speculate that it’s because of a cover-up that the whole blowup didn’t indict McCain as perpetrator.

    Retardation isn’t solely a leftwing infliction.

  106. Larry J says:

    Here’s the video of the Forrestal accident. The video is of poor quality but it shows that McCain’s plane was hit by the Zuni. It didn’t launch it. The accident investigation showed that the Zuni was launched by an F-4 across the flight deck.

  107. Ric Locke says:

    WHICH IS PRECISELY WHAT I SAID, GUYS.

    The intent of the post was to point out that McCain’s swipe at the Swift Boat Vets was not aimed at them, but was a pre-emptive shot at anybody who might try to go with the story.

    Regards,
    Ric

  108. nishizonoshinji says:

    no, ric
    this is wat u said
    I will go to my grave convinced that LCDR John S. McCain, USN, fat-fingered a switch in his Scooter and killed people,

  109. Does anyone know where this character Cunningham came from?

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