All this drama just to pick between Hillary or Obama. I’ve been behind these same people at Baskin-Robbins and literally just turned around and left cause they made me feel just sort of vaguely stupid for being a part of any of it. And I really like ice cream.
Two Republicans in my office yesterday told me they could never vote for Obama, because he is a closet Muslim and they fear for Israel’s sake if he’s elected (they’re both Jewish). They know he’s a Muslim because his name is Hussein and he received the endorsement of Luis Farrakhan.
When I answered that he’s been a member of a Christian church, they retorted that said church doesn’t allow white people to be members or attend service.
I stopped talking after that, because I couldn’t decides if my first answer rebutted the first lie and they weren’t voting for him because of the second lie…
—OR—
he’s an actual Manchurian Muslim who is also a massive African Christian racist, in which case, I can’t convince anyone who believes that.
Point being, somewhere these slurs keep popping up and people are glad to believe them.
Did you know Bill Clinton ran a drug running operation from the Mena airport? Or that W. KNEW there weren’t WMD’s in Iraq, but invaded anyway, so he could secure the oil wells? Or, John McCain had an illegitimate black baby AND told the North Vietnamese US secrets.
Political lies are the worst stuff; the just feed off of the prejudices and irrational fears of people and poison our public life.
P.S. I’m doubting my Republican colleagues got their info from the HRC campaign, in case that wasn’t clear enough. At this point, these sorts of efforts are viral and the bigots among us don’t need any campaign’s help.
Drudge, using the judgment he is so famous for, exercised such admirable restraint.
IJS – Any President of the US that cannot acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations that threaten Israel is dangerous to the interests of Israel. The fact that Barry’s pastor gives awards to L. Farrakhan should be ignored.
I agree with you, but it’s the reason they chose that offended me, i.e., he’s a secret Muslim.
As for as your first point, the President didn’t lie about WMD, he was just sloppy and wrong. He didn’t care to hear opposing viewpoints, because (at my most charitable) he believed Saddam was a threat to the Middle East.
It’s a little off-topic, but I listed that as a political lie, because it’s repeated and it’s wrong. How stupid would anyone have to be to lie about that? He would know people would fail to discover vast stocks and put his re-election and support for the Iraq Operation in jeopardy. He wouldn’t take such a stupid risk.
Too many people are quick to call things “lies” or assign evil intent, when the answer is almost always carelessness, negligence, or sloppiness.
For instance, JD’s existence on these pages is not his evil intent, it was his parents’ sloppiness with birth control. I don’t blame them too much, as they couldn’t have known what a tool he would become.
JD, try Snopes.com and see how high the rankings are for the Obama myths. Then, accuse someone else of making something up.
Your stupidity grows exponential, your ability to smear is proportionate only to your ability to take offense, and your love of dick jokes is inversely proportionate to the size of your dick. Now, go find datadave to bother. I’m busy with the adults.
IJS – Get you panties out of a bunch. I so love it when the tolerant folks like you get all in a lather, and sputter out .. buh .. buh …but you have a small dick! You consider yourself to be an adult, with an anecdotal made up story about religionist Republicans?
Oh sorry, IJS, it’s just that I had heard that about Bush a lot. I believe Ralph Nader is running partially on a platform of “Impeach Bush”.
I don’t know why you think your co-workers hadn’t heard the secret muslim thing from the HRC campaign. They’ve certainly floated it, always with the concern that Republicans might bring it up. Unless your co-workers have some “Republicans only” internet or something.
You took offense at some made up folks in your office saying they will not vote for the Messiah because he is Muslim, which has absolutely nothing to do with you, and have the temerity to say that I take offense easily?
Last time you started in with this, you were directed to the web archive to show how Obama’s church has been sanitizing its website… and then you ran away.
The two links above are links to new reports about emails passed around in Jewish circles, which allege Obama is a Muslim.
JD, if my colleagues did not want to vote for Obama, because they opposed his Israeli policies, then that is a rational reason.
Karl, are you alleging that the 8600 member church Obama belongs to prohibits whites? As I can recall, your previous argument was they are militantly black. Are you so blinkered, you cannot tell the difference between those allegations? I urge to watch the webcast of their services this Sunday, so you can see if they are burning whitey in effigy and singing praises to the Black Panthers. It’s available on their website and you know where that is! Perhaps you could post video of the ritual swearing allegiance they perform to Mother Africa?
IJS – We like it better when you do not mess with your rectal cranial inverstion. Every time you try to reverse it, feces spew from your pie hole. How about this, let’s broadcast all of the speeches and services from Barry O’s church on prime time, and see if their message resonates beyond their 4 walls. That you refuse to acknowledge their avowed message is as telling of you as it is of their message.
He didn’t care to hear opposing viewpoints, because (at my most charitable) he believed Saddam was a threat to the Middle East.
What opposing viewpoints were those? The ones that said “Let’s just keep pressuring him because….well, because! we’re making a shitload of money off of Saddam, fucker!”
You realize that UN Sec Res 1441 was unanimously approved, don’t you?
Last time you started in with this, you were directed to the web archive to show how Obama’s church has been sanitizing its website… and then you ran away.
My, but he did, didn’t he?
Yes, brave Sir Chris turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Chris!
Obstreperous Infidel – I have found that the standard should be, would that be tolerated were their skin color _________ (insert the opposite of what they are).
All this drama just to pick between Hillary or Obama. I’ve been behind these same people at Baskin-Robbins and literally just turned around and left cause they made me feel just sort of vaguely stupid for being a part of any of it. And I really like ice cream.
Mystery Smear
It’s your Mystery Smear
Will it work like a dream? (*ooh!*)
Or will it be a dud? (*ugh!*)
Countdown to libs mocking Murdoch in 5, 4, 3, 2…
hf,
Believe it or not, one of my posts later today is relevant to the drama of selecting ice cream.
That seems kind of like a good portent really.
Two Republicans in my office yesterday told me they could never vote for Obama, because he is a closet Muslim and they fear for Israel’s sake if he’s elected (they’re both Jewish). They know he’s a Muslim because his name is Hussein and he received the endorsement of Luis Farrakhan.
When I answered that he’s been a member of a Christian church, they retorted that said church doesn’t allow white people to be members or attend service.
I stopped talking after that, because I couldn’t decides if my first answer rebutted the first lie and they weren’t voting for him because of the second lie…
—OR—
he’s an actual Manchurian Muslim who is also a massive African Christian racist, in which case, I can’t convince anyone who believes that.
Point being, somewhere these slurs keep popping up and people are glad to believe them.
Did you know Bill Clinton ran a drug running operation from the Mena airport? Or that W. KNEW there weren’t WMD’s in Iraq, but invaded anyway, so he could secure the oil wells? Or, John McCain had an illegitimate black baby AND told the North Vietnamese US secrets.
Political lies are the worst stuff; the just feed off of the prejudices and irrational fears of people and poison our public life.
P.S. I’m doubting my Republican colleagues got their info from the HRC campaign, in case that wasn’t clear enough. At this point, these sorts of efforts are viral and the bigots among us don’t need any campaign’s help.
Drudge, using the judgment he is so famous for, exercised such admirable restraint.
He opposed the war from the beginning.
IJS – Any President of the US that cannot acknowledge that Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations that threaten Israel is dangerous to the interests of Israel. The fact that Barry’s pastor gives awards to L. Farrakhan should be ignored.
Dems love it when they get to call Republicans bigots. IJS prolly tossed a load of man juice all over his cubicle while he was making that up.
IJS- did you know Bush lied us into war?
My guess is that your Republican friends aren’t voting for Obama because they are Republicans.
MayBee,
I agree with you, but it’s the reason they chose that offended me, i.e., he’s a secret Muslim.
As for as your first point, the President didn’t lie about WMD, he was just sloppy and wrong. He didn’t care to hear opposing viewpoints, because (at my most charitable) he believed Saddam was a threat to the Middle East.
It’s a little off-topic, but I listed that as a political lie, because it’s repeated and it’s wrong. How stupid would anyone have to be to lie about that? He would know people would fail to discover vast stocks and put his re-election and support for the Iraq Operation in jeopardy. He wouldn’t take such a stupid risk.
Too many people are quick to call things “lies” or assign evil intent, when the answer is almost always carelessness, negligence, or sloppiness.
For instance, JD’s existence on these pages is not his evil intent, it was his parents’ sloppiness with birth control. I don’t blame them too much, as they couldn’t have known what a tool he would become.
JD, try Snopes.com and see how high the rankings are for the Obama myths. Then, accuse someone else of making something up.
Your stupidity grows exponential, your ability to smear is proportionate only to your ability to take offense, and your love of dick jokes is inversely proportionate to the size of your dick. Now, go find datadave to bother. I’m busy with the adults.
IJS – Get you panties out of a bunch. I so love it when the tolerant folks like you get all in a lather, and sputter out .. buh .. buh …but you have a small dick! You consider yourself to be an adult, with an anecdotal made up story about religionist Republicans?
Oh sorry, IJS, it’s just that I had heard that about Bush a lot. I believe Ralph Nader is running partially on a platform of “Impeach Bush”.
I don’t know why you think your co-workers hadn’t heard the secret muslim thing from the HRC campaign. They’ve certainly floated it, always with the concern that Republicans might bring it up. Unless your co-workers have some “Republicans only” internet or something.
IJS – Republican Jews? A laugher from the start. Everybody knows all the Jews are democrats even if they don’t vote that way.
You took offense at some made up folks in your office saying they will not vote for the Messiah because he is Muslim, which has absolutely nothing to do with you, and have the temerity to say that I take offense easily?
BTW – timmah, fuck off
IJS,
Last time you started in with this, you were directed to the web archive to show how Obama’s church has been sanitizing its website… and then you ran away.
Too bad for you some of us have memories.
Did they get to you too, Karl? I thought that was called white-washing, not sanitizing.
Actually, at the link, I think I used “airbrushing.” I just like to change things up.
BTW, the post I linked just got comment spam from “Wonder Wedge Brown.”
Affiliate Christian Program on The irrepressible John Cole
Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/01/obamas-israel-shuffle.html
http://www.nysun.com/article/70362
The two links above are links to new reports about emails passed around in Jewish circles, which allege Obama is a Muslim.
JD, if my colleagues did not want to vote for Obama, because they opposed his Israeli policies, then that is a rational reason.
Karl, are you alleging that the 8600 member church Obama belongs to prohibits whites? As I can recall, your previous argument was they are militantly black. Are you so blinkered, you cannot tell the difference between those allegations? I urge to watch the webcast of their services this Sunday, so you can see if they are burning whitey in effigy and singing praises to the Black Panthers. It’s available on their website and you know where that is! Perhaps you could post video of the ritual swearing allegiance they perform to Mother Africa?
IJS – We like it better when you do not mess with your rectal cranial inverstion. Every time you try to reverse it, feces spew from your pie hole. How about this, let’s broadcast all of the speeches and services from Barry O’s church on prime time, and see if their message resonates beyond their 4 walls. That you refuse to acknowledge their avowed message is as telling of you as it is of their message.
LONG LIVE LOUIE FARRAKHAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My, but he did, didn’t he?
Yes, brave Sir Chris turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Chris!
And he’s as smart as he is brave.
Obama’s church is racist at the least. Of course they’re not going to be burning “whitey” in effigy. I don’t think their abject idiots. Just racist.
Obstreperous Infidel – I have found that the standard should be, would that be tolerated were their skin color _________ (insert the opposite of what they are).
Hiccup.
The Post can be a very dangerous publication, indeed.
Don’t forget who owns it.