Sen. Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton join the nutroots in misconstruing Sen. Barack Obama’s comments about wanting to be to progressives what Ronald Reagan was to conservatives.
Here’s Hill:
I have to say, you know, my leading opponent the other day said that he thought the Republicans had better ideas than Democrats the last ten to fifteen years. That’s not the way I remember the last ten to fifteen years.
Here’s Bill:
“I can’t imagine any Democrat seeking the presidency would say they were the party of new ideas for the last 15 years. But it sounded good in Reno I guess…”
The nutroots can plead RDS, but what is the Clintons’ excuse? Presumably it is seething rage over having Obama point out that the Clintons were a disaster for the Democratic Party. They cannot imagine anyone thinking that the GOP seemed to have the initiative over the past 10-15 years because they are either in denial or do not want to remind Democratic voters that the first two years of the Clinton Administration — culminating in Hillary’s healthcare plan — decimated their party in Congress, governorships and state assemblies.
Update: You will be shocked — shocked! — to discover that Clinton put Reagan on he list of favorite presidents. (h/t Marc Ambinder.)
decimated their party in Congress, governorships and state assemblies.
Democrats in House of Reps went from 258 to 204, a drop of 54. A LITERAL decimation would have been a drop of 26, so it was twice as bad as that!
Senate, 57 to 46, a drop of 11. Again, a double-decimation!
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See. This is what happens when you believe your own press. The media for years told Bill how negritudinously yummilicious he was, and the stupid cracker just licked that up. Now he’s finding out that mostly he’s only somewhat more persuasive than the average whorish Arkie cracker. Obama’s biggest strengths are that he’s not an Arkie, he’s not a whore, and he’s not a cracker, and the more Bill attacks him, the better he’s gonna look.
Then why is Bill out saying they would send G.H. dubya out into the world to recoup our precious America brand is elected?
BW Karl? You are doing an excellent job IMHO.
Ack –
to recoup our precious America brand IF elected?
Now he’s finding out that mostly he’s only somewhat more persuasive than the average whorish Arkie cracker.
See, I don’t think it’s just the press anymore. I don’t think he’s getting the HOT chicks anymore either and that’s pissing him off too. The HOT looks. The Hot attention from the Hotties. He’s lost his touch and he’s mid-lifing (the man’s immature…makes sense his mid-life would come late)
Oh – Happy…my bad.I re-read. What I said, you said too. Sorry.
Oh – I was gonna say I thought you had a good point in that I think Bill’s whorishness was really a lot an overcompensation for fear of rejection… and if he’s getting more anxious about that personally with the honeys, the rejection of his legacy that a Hillary defeat would represent must be driving him stage three syphilis crazy.
Yeah Happy — I think he’s realizing that Paris Hilton wouldn’t even think he’s HOT and oh man…that would SOOO piss Clinton off. Since the Presidency, he’s had Burkle paid for love. This is all a new world, with new media for the Pecker to navigate and it’s all so unfair.
Al’s Nobel thingie has to be killing him too.
Thanks, Topsecretk9!
Happy
And to think, Bill doesn’t even get Africa!
Karl
You bet. Bloggin’ ain’t easy and you have been putting together some well thought out product, my friend!
Baack Obama came not to praise Ronald Reagan but to bury the Clintons. Obama hit the Clintons’ in their soft spot, the legacy of the Clinton administration, or lack thereof same. The only change B.J. affected was to make the word lewinsky a common noun.
Actually I’m starting to eagerly await developments on this one. I’m starting to like Obama, not to the point of voting for him but appreciating his contribution. If he comes out with what I consider the logical sequel to this I’m gonna appreciate him even more.
Because, of course, what he did was not to praise Reagan, particularly. The thrust of his remarks was that the political conditions of that era put Reagan at the right place at the right time, and a similar correlation of forces puts him, Obama, in the right place at the right time. If he now turns around and declares that the Clintonistas are too stupid to understand what he was saying, so cynical they are prepared to blow any out-of-context phrase into a tissue of lies and innuendo, or both, he will earn my gratitude.
What he’s going for, of course, is to drive a wedge between the Clintonista and hysterical Kos Kiddie wing of the Democratic party and the rest. If he succeeds he will have done the entire country a service deserving of significant reward. The Presidency is not a gong to be awarded for valor, but something ought to be found.
It occurs to me that, if he succeeds in this, it would also place him to adopt a Bush tactic: appoint Joe Lieberman as his Vice-Presidential running mate. Lieberman likely wouldn’t go for it, but if he did it gives us an eager, young, fresh face, dynamic and forward-looking, paired with an experienced politico to steady his hand — a more-extreme version of Bush/Cheney — neither one beholden to the extremists. Described like that it’s a damned attractive combination, even to me.
Regards,
Ric
“Fittingly, in the final analysis, Clinton will not be remembered for what he did as president, but for who he did.”
-Ann Coulter
Feets:
I am so stealing that and I’m not paying you a dime!
What I desperately want to see is a repudiation of the Clintons by their own party, in the primaries. Maybe then the Dems could move beyond their hate. Having said that, Barack Hussein Obama has the chance to be far more damaging to our country than Hillary.
Obama/Lieberman would make my decision tough if McCain gets the nod for the Republicans, and I would definitely choose that over Huckabee.
B Moe, you are generally pretty good here and both McCain and Huckabee make my skin crawl. But man, I think you better think it through again.
It is just that I don’t think much Obama would be able to accomplish as much as the other two, and what he did would get blamed on the Dems. McCain and Huckabee, especially McCain, has the political savvy and connections to do some serious damage, including possibly completely destroying the Republican party. Four years of neglect and incompetence, as under Carter, is much easier to remedy that four years of active destruction.
For McCain I would simply skip the presidential section of my ballot. But if the fall campaign turns out to be Huckobamapalooza I won’t vote Huckabee, but I can’t say for sure that I’ll skip. I’d have to give it a lot of thought.
I pray it doesn’t come to that.
I would skip. Maybe catch a movie or something.
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