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Sunday night open thread … [Darleen Click]

I’ve been crash-coursing to bring myself up-to-date on HMTL5/CSS3 to help someone with some webcoding so have been a bit neglectful about posting today.

Buzz has it that Lone Ranger bombed big time.

Meanwhile, the little yellow minions beat everyone like a red-headed stepchild. (aside — grandsons give the movie 4 thumbs up)

Latest on the Asiana Airlines crash:

Asiana Airlines said Monday that the pilot in control of the Boeing 777 that crashed in San Francisco Saturday had little experience flying that type of plane and was landing one for the first time at that airport.

Asiana spokeswoman Lee Hyomin told the Associated Press Monday that Lee Gang-guk was trying to get used to the 777 during Saturday’s crash landing. She says the pilot had nearly 10,000 hours flying other planes, including the Boeing 747, but had only 43 hours on the 777.

Glenn Reynolds addresses the little remembered 3rd amendment. Discussion precipitated by the outrageous Henderson, NV case.

And in the continuing saga of how the Lightbringer has done f**ked the place up, look to bankrupt cities to dump their old and sick retirees on the taxpayer.

Feel free to add more topics in the comments.

40 Replies to “Sunday night open thread … [Darleen Click]”

  1. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Call me cynical if you will, but who else thinks the fix is in for Zimmerman?

  2. serr8d says:

    There’s a new theory in town. Seems humans are a hybrid cross between a female chimp and a male pig.

    No, really!

    http://m.phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html#nwlt

    (Hey atheists! You still feeling good about your religion ? )

  3. BigBangHunter says:

    – In reference to the SFO crash – (nr cover your eyes) – boy some days its just not a good one for some people.
    – In other news…..

  4. BigBangHunter says:

    a female chimp and a male pig.

    – Wait, I thought it was a frog and a Diva female opera singing pig?

  5. geoffb says:

    [W]ho else thinks the fix is in for Zimmerman?

    The way the race hustlers including the RHIC have set this case up no one wants to be the party to tell those hustlers and their minions that they are stupidly wrong. Not the governor, the judge, or the jury. I expect them to convict out of fear of reprisals and then hope an appeal reverses the decision.

    The tampering with any possible jury and court started a few weeks after the shooting with Parks & Crump putting out an animation of the event which had Zimmerman shooting Trayvon from a distance for no reason except hatred based on race, and a walk-through of the scene with Martin’s parents. They also were the ones who brought in national race hustlers to stir the pot. Community organizing trash, exploiting it all for the cash.

  6. newrouter says:

    in fixation news:

    “In reference to the SFO crash”

  7. Ruby Lennox says:

    Shit hit the fan at Althouse. She deep-sixed her comments.

  8. geoffb says:

    Every blog needs a “Trollhammer”. It was the best troll damper ever.

  9. BigBangHunter says:

    – We don’t get many trolls these days, so we have to make do with obsessives.

  10. Darleen says:

    Ruby

    Oh for heaven’s sake … Althouse decided to get all pissy on men accusing them of “whining” when tricked by a female who lies to them about contraception and gets pregnant.

    Then she decided to make it a fight with Glenn Reynolds.

    I dipped into the comments there on some of the epic threads but haven’t really paid attention much today. Who finally set her off?

  11. eCurmudgeon says:

    [N]o one wants to be the party to tell those hustlers and their minions that they are stupidly wrong. Not the governor, the judge, or the jury. I expect them to convict out of fear of reprisals and then hope an appeal reverses the decision.

    Except, I doubt there will be an appeal. That’s one hot potato no sane judge will touch.

    I’m cynical enough to think this will all conveniently go away after Mr. Zimmerman has an unfortunate incident with another inmate. How he wound up in whichever the most violent prison in Florida is will be shrugged off as a “paperwork error.”

  12. Pablo says:

    There’s still a way to comment!
    I’ve had to turn off normal comments, because there was some terrible abuse. But we love our old good commenters, and Meade would love you to email comments to him. Click here to email Meade and he will put up the good comments in any given comments thread.

    Be clear that you mean to try to post a comment and specify the thread. Meade will apply the old “good faith” standard, under which we reject comment by those who we think have the ulterior motive of destroying the conversation and driving people away from this forum (that is, the people who forced us turn off the comments).

    Right, people are going to email you comments and hope they get posted. That’s sure to work. What a silly twat.

  13. Pablo says:

    And as for social connishness, I support abortion rights, same-sex marriage, and — it’s right there in my quote — I’m not out to punish those who decline to channel their sexuality into committed relationships with child-rearing. I’m just defending legal and political decisions that center on protecting the interests of children rather than the ability of males to avoid the consequences of procreation,

    Yes, she actually said that. So, apparently killing the children is in their interest.

  14. Darleen says:

    Althouse:

    I’m not yearning for an old-fashioned society where everyone channels their sexuality into marriage and child-rearing.

    Because this libertine, sex is sport and any “punishments” will be taken care of by the benevolent state is working so well.

  15. serr8d says:

    And as for social connishness, I support abortion rights, same-sex marriage, and — it’s right there in my quote — I’m not out to punish those who decline to channel their sexuality into committed relationships with child-rearing.

    There you go. Fun times will be had by all, unless you’re a child missing out because you were aborted. No fun for you!

    Althouse? Who dat ?

  16. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I thought the “men lose control of their sperm after they deposit it somewhere else –so careful who you leave it with, fellas” was an interesting line of argument. The obvious counterpoint to that would be “women lose control of their uteruses after their ovae are inseminated –so careful who you copulate with ladies.”

    Except it isn’t.

  17. mondamay says:

    I thought the “men lose control of their sperm after they deposit it somewhere else –so careful who you leave it with, fellas”

    And yet— mandated child support!

    Thanks, but in the unlikely event I found myself in such a position, I would choose the jail cell.

    People who believe in gender-exclusive “Constitutional rights”… words fail me.

  18. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Althouse:

    I’m not yearning for an old-fashioned society where everyone channels their sexuality into marriage and child-rearing.

    Because this libertine, sex is sport and any “punishments” will be taken care of by the benevolent state is working so well.

    Fun times will be had by all, unless you’re a child missing out because you were aborted.

    Bloom:

    [Freud] provided the license for the centrality of sex in public life[.] [A]ll one had to do was imagine new social structures that demanded less repression for their functioning. This was where Marx was useful. Or one could simply forget about the problems concerning the relation between eros and culture, or else posit a natural harmony between the two. Freud, riding the crest of a wave of German philosophy, enabled Americans to think the satisfaction of their sexual desires was the most important element of happiness. He provided the rationalization for instict, although that was surely not his intention.

    Sex immigrated to the United States with the special status given those who make scientific and literary contributions to our culture. But when it got here, it behaved just like everything else American. Gone was the plaintive tone, the poetry, the justification based on civilization’s dependence on sublimation. Just as we had cut away the camouflage disguising economic needs … in order to concentrate efficiently on those needs themselves, so we demystified sexual desires, seeing them for what they really are, in order to satisfy them more efficiently. …. [W]e demystify economy and sexuality, satisfying their primary demands, taking away what our philosophy tells us is their creative impulse, and then we complain we have no culture. …. In the Soviet Union they are dependent on operas from the bad old days, because tyranny prevents artistic expression; we are dependent on the same operas, because the thirsts that produced artistic need have been slaked. (Closing, 233.)

  19. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And yet— mandated child support!

    That’s the form (or one of them) which loss of control takes according to Althouse. If you don’t want to have to pay for kids’ support, don’t be making any.

  20. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And again, the obvious corollary would be If you don’t want a parasite feeding off of you for nine months, before you’re stuck rearing it for eighteen years, don’t let some cad knock you up.

    Except it isn’t.

    My point here being that both men and women are accutely aware of how the incentives structures work for and/or against them, and neither seems particularly happy about it. Prioritizing the interests of the child (including the child’s paramount interest in being born in the first place) seems to me to be the best way to level the playing field.

    Maybe that’s quaintly old-fashioned of me.

  21. leigh says:

    With all due respect to Mr. Bloom, that is a fundamental misunderstanding of Freud.

  22. leigh says:

    Unless the comment shown is to demonstrate the misunderstanding of Freud by his American audience, in which case I retract my statement.

  23. Ernst Schreiber says:

    It might well be both, but it’s probably more a description of the embrace of vulgar Freudianism, so to speak, than Bloom misapprehending Freud.

    Also, we have to remember that there are (at least two Freuds): The psychoanalyst, and the psycho-historian/cultural critic. The former was an expert. The latter, just another intellectual.

    Don’t make start quoting from Paul Johnson’s Modern Times.

  24. leigh says:

    Please don’t. It’s too early for that.

    Freud went off the rails when he got into the cocaine.

  25. JHoward says:

    Shit hit the fan at Althouse. She deep-sixed her comments.

    She’s consistently poorly reasoned. Aside from the fraternity, why Reynold has linked her for years is as much a mystery as why he links Megan McArdle, who seems as deeply unconvinced by her meandering “libertarian” variability as Althouse is by her Obama-lite conservatism.

  26. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I thought it was Sherlock Holmes who got into the cocaine and Dr. Sigmund who got him off it.

  27. JHoward says:

    And yet— mandated child support!

    It’s a tenable position that family law is the greatest running travesty against prior constitutional right as any such travesty.

  28. mondamay says:

    Ernst Schreiber says July 8, 2013 at 8:24 am

    That’s the form (or one of them) which loss of control takes according to Althouse. If you don’t want to have to pay for kids’ support, don’t be making any.

    To my feeble mind, a “loss of control” necessarily implies an elimination of liability. If you don’t get a say, you shouldn’t have to pay…

  29. JHoward says:

    If you don’t want to have to pay for kids’ support, don’t be making any.

    As a solitary assertion, no. Support borne of single parenting hostile to equal shared parenting is a statist industry enacted primarily, intentionally, structurally, and financially against one sex.

    My point here being that both men and women are accutely aware of how the incentives structures work for and/or against them, and neither seems particularly happy about it. Prioritizing the interests of the child (including the child’s paramount interest in being born in the first place) seems to me to be the best way to level the playing field.

    Correction: One sex seems perfectly happy with the obvious incentives when those designed benefits reliably also run parallel with its not unpredictable gender feminism. It is sexist, statist, discriminatory, malicious, and unconstitutional, which always pleases wide swaths of a dependent nation in which operate thieves, opportunists, partisans, and their official enablers.

    Not surprisingly, the child’s best interest clause is its #1 leverage. In that it is arbitrary, instantaneous, not subject to trial, without recourse or appeal, and quite literally thereby unconstitutional.

    It is to law and rights what even the very worst of any other federalized ruin of prior constitutional principle has arguably yet to become.

  30. mondamay says:

    And along that same line.

    The number of Americans receiving subsidized food assistance from the federal government has risen to 101 million, representing roughly a third of the U.S. population.

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that a total of 101,000,000 people currently participate in at least one of the 15 food programs offered by the agency, at a cost of $114 billion in fiscal year 2012.

    That means the number of Americans receiving food assistance has surpassed the number of private sector workers in the U.S.

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), there were 97,180,000 full-time private sector workers in 2012.

    Why everyone can’t see the end coming is beyond me.

  31. mondamay says:

    Everything but the firts and last lines should be block quotes, but, didn’t happen.

  32. dicentra says:

    Point was made somewhere that to have sex is to consent to pregnancy, regardless of the methods you use to avoid conception. Therefore, there’s no such thing as an accidental pregnancy. It’s the failure to conceive that’s the accident.

    Our reproductive systems have a single mission: reproduction. The only reason sex feels good is to ensure the continuation of the species. Our reproductive systems are as relentless as they are brainless—they never calculate whether it’s a good time to get pregnant nor whether the sire is worthy of the dam (or vice-versa) nor whether conception could result in families being destroyed or sloppily created.

    That’s what people must recognize—and teach younger generations: your reproductive system doesn’t give a rip about you OR your welfare. It messes with your head six ways til Sunday to fulfill its mission, and it will do so at your expense.

  33. leigh says:

    This is the flip side of the argument for free sexual expression used by lefties. Sexual intercourse is intended for reproduction, but in the marital bed it is also a bond between the spouses.

    Both of these arguments could stand some fleshing out, no pun intended, or they are two sides of the same coin: reducing us to the sum of our naughty bits.

  34. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Correction: One sex seems perfectly happy with the obvious incentives when those designed benefits reliably also run parallel with its not unpredictable gender feminism.

    My take on it is that, broadly and generally speaking, the sexes are happy with the incentives that benefit their own sex more than the opposite, while they’re suspicious and resentful of the incentives that benefit the opposite sex more than their own.

    Negotiating sex has become a bit like negotiating the price of a auto. You go into it intent on working the best deal for yourself you can, and leave worrying that you got cheated somehow.

  35. JHoward says:

    My take on it is that, broadly and generally speaking, the sexes are happy with the incentives that benefit their own sex more than the opposite, while they’re suspicious and resentful of the incentives that benefit the opposite sex more than their own.

    You’d already alluded to your take on it.

    The male sex denied rights, liberties, and property — plus their own children — being merely a vote-disadvantaged cohort of another cohort would likely differ from that perception, however, as likely would you if you were among their number.

    As for the Constitution as a prior legal structure erected to prevent such abuses, it’s encouraging to see it invoked with such conviction.

  36. Dicentra wrote at 1021: Our reproductive systems are as relentless as they are brainless….

    An interesting thing I learned recently: The only other place outside of the brain that you will find brain cells is surrounding the Digestive System.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system

  37. Also from Dicentra at 1021:

    …your reproductive system doesn’t give a rip about you OR your welfare. It messes with your head six ways til Sunday to fulfill its mission…

    For me, as a young lad, that would be ‘666 ways til Sunday’…or even 1600.

  38. Leigh wrote:

    This is the flip side of the argument for free sexual expression used by lefties. Sexual intercourse is intended for reproduction, but in the marital bed it is also a bond between the spouses.

    Both of these arguments could stand some fleshing out, no pun intended, or they are two sides of the same coin: reducing us to the sum of our naughty bits.

    Indeed. The Left wants to reduce us to the level of the animal, to have animal desires outweigh our Reason, because that makes us, they believe, Pavlovian and, therefore, easier to train [ie: re-engineer].

    Of course, the Left faces a rather high hurdle in that Human Beings are not animals. No Human Being can ever destroy another’s Soul.

  39. Slartibartfast says:

    Just seen on wattsupwiththat.com: “claimatologists”.

    I chortled.

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