December 18, 2012

“President Obama to push assault weapons ban in second term”

Being re-elected gives him flexibility, you see.  And you can never let a crisis go to waste.

The Hill:

President Obama will “actively support” efforts by Democrats to reinstate a federal ban on assault weapons next year, the White House announced on Tuesday.

Press secretary Jay Carney said the president would back Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) when she introduces legislation at the opening of the next Congress to ban certain assault weapons in the United States.

Carney said the president would also support other gun-control efforts, including legislation to close the “gun show loophole” on background checks and prevent the sale of high-capacity ammunition clips.

The president has reached out to lawmakers who have expressed a new willingness to consider gun restrictions in the wake of Friday’s mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., that claimed the lives of 27 people, including 20 children. Carney said Obama has been “heartened” by the willingness to consider such measures from Democrats who have been strong supporters of gun rights.

Obama spoke on Tuesday with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), a longtime member of the National Rifle Association who this week said “everything should be on the table” to address gun violence.

Well, everything except getting rid of “gun free zones” — where nearly all of the spree killings take place — itself a restriction instituted by those who made it their mission to “address gun violence.”

Fact:  this push has nothing to do with gun violence — Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws, and yet it is a war zone — but rather to do with seizing power and deconstructing more of our liberties.

The Republican House should author and pass a bill repealing “gun free zone” ordinances — and states with GOP governors and Republican-controlled legislatures should do the same.

Like, yesterday.

[…]

Obama attended a vigil in Newton on Sunday night for the victims of the shooting, vowing to use “whatever power this office holds” to prevent “more tragedies like this.”

“Because what choice do we have?” Obama said. “We can’t accept events like this as routine. Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage? That the politics are too hard?”

First, as our resident sophist slippy points out, “events like this” are far from routine.  But that aside, even when they do occur, they occur in those places that progressives have already tried to socially engineer into anti-violence zones, leaving such places open to predators who don’t much give a shit what progressive lawmakers think about stopping gun violence.

[…]

Obama largely shied away from gun control fights in his first term, to the dismay of some supporters on the left. The only gun law signed by the president expanded the ability to carry weapons in national parks and onto Amtrak trains.

It was recently reported that former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told Attorney General Eric Holder to “shut the f— up” about gun control during a confrontation in 2009.

On Tuesday, Carney said that the president recognized that “as a nation, we need to do better” and that Obama was “a member, and the leader of, the nation.”

The spokesman said he had not discussed with Obama whether he regretted not taking more action on gun control during his first term.

Emanuel, for his part, defended his and the president’s record in an interview on Tuesday.

“President Obama always stood for getting [the assault weapons ban] done, No. 1,” Emanuel told CBS News. “No. 2, I passed the Brady Bill with the assault weapon ban. It is very, very important that we do that. The fact is, in 2009 the president and the entire government was very clear to say this, as the attorney general knows, in getting all the president’s legislation done and working with Congress to do that.”

So. I guess all that propaganda about Obama having not touched our guns — in fact, had actually broadened our gun rights! we were told — is now to be shoved down the memory hole.  Because the left never stops in its efforts to secure power for the government at the expense of the individual.

I’ve been saying this since the day of the shooting:  to Obama, this is a political opportunity.  An “assault weapons ban” or smaller magazine will only harm free and law abiding citizens.  Increasing the scope of “gun free zones” will only lead to more carnage.  Obama doesn’t care about children or gun violence.  He cares about collecting and centralizing power — and taking arms out of the hands of private citizens is one way to nudge the balance of power more toward the centralized police state.

I expect he doesn’t have any idea about the kind of resistance he’s going to meet.

And let me say this right now:  any Republican law maker who goes along with any of this should be primaried.  And that’s only because we no longer use tar and feathers or run corrupt and cowardly politicians out of town on a rail.

(h/t sdferr)

 

 

Posted by Jeff G. @ 2:54pm
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Comments (80)

  1. Obama and the Proggs are capitalizing on a brief moment of sympathy to push for controls that have no real support. I propose that we hold them to their promise, loudly and often. A year from now, when Gallup shows support for gun-control at 2-to-1 against, we should force the Brady Bunch to scream and stamp their feet and insist the Dems introduce the promised legislation.

    Hold a gun to their heads, if necessary.

  2. Remember how slipshod was trying to tell us that Obama wasn’t going to take away our guns? Good times.

    All those who are shocked at this development, raise your hands.

    That’s what I thought.

  3. You ever notice the government’s solution to every problem involves expanding their power and taking away more of our freedom and responsibility?

    Somebody should design a system to limit their ability to do that.

  4. Somebody should design a system to limit their ability to do that.

    Great idea. It could be a document of some kind that we and they all agree to uphold and defend, stating clearly what the government is allowed to do, with the understanding that if it’s not specifically allowed, they cannot do it.

    Of course, they’d have to keep their word to follow it, but that shouldn’t be a problem.

  5. If only there existed such a document..

  6. This initiative will be coupled with introduction of legislation to ban high-capacity checks and balances.

  7. Of course, they’d have to keep their word to follow it, but that shouldn’t be a problem.

    Not if we held the politicians to account at the point of a gun, it wouldn’t.

    (Did I just say that outloud?)

  8. If only there existed such a document.

    We could write one ourselves.

    But first we’d have to find some dead white males conversant with the greek and latin classics as well as the moderns –Hobbes, Locke and Montesquieu*

    *not even gonna bother looking up the proper spelling

  9. But the real benefit would be that it wouldn’t be like 100 years old or anything.

  10. gun control? let’s start with fast and furious

  11. I’ve got some suggestions for exactly where he can push any “assault weapons” bill.

  12. He cares about collecting and centralizing power — and taking arms out of the hands of private citizens is one way to nudge the balance of power more toward the centralized police state.

    You forgot one thing. The progg loves’em some revenue.

    I just heard on the car radio (no link, sorry) California is “unveiling” new legislation all ready drafted (almost like they were waiting for the right moment) to “license” ammunition, as in, you can’t buy ammo with out paying $50 a year and pass the annual background check.

    Fucking marvelous.

    Oh, and also, online sales of ammo must be picked up at a designated location, no more home delivery.

    Inalienable my ass…

  13. I’m glad I don’t live in CA any more, but just visit there.

  14. I have a feeling the imbedded microchip for every girl and boy ain’t far away either.

  15. Expect ammunition sales to jump quite a bit.

  16. “I have a feeling the imbedded microchip for every girl and boy ain’t far away either.”

    Not everyone. The herds won’t need ‘em.

  17. Embedded? What am I talking about? Every girl and boy already wouldn’t be caught dead without their smart phone. Same, same.

  18. So… which state bordering California is going to sell a shit-ton more ammo?

  19. Yeah cranky, I better go order now. Later.

  20. (makes note to look into investing in an ammo store in Nevada)

  21. I remember back when I smoked and lived in Chicago. Every road trip always included a stop just off the highway that had a big sign advertising to tax refugees.

  22. state line ammo

  23. Absolutely, bh. Indiana just loves it when Chicago or Illinois as a whole passes stupid legislation like this.

  24. My FFL guy just told me there’s a 28 HOUR wait time here in CO for background checks.

  25. Yep, the fine state of Indiana was most often the winner in the tax competition, SBP. I don’t remember exactly where this was but one time when I was coming back from a trip to Michigan I stopped at one of those cigarette depots and every single car had Illinois plates. Like three dozen cars of people buying multiple cartons each.

    Had a friend who’d drive to Missouri to see his parents on holidays and he probably bought ten cartons each for all his friends and half his coworkers.

  26. See B.S. News reporting that one large gun store has sold out of its entire stock of 2,000 thirty round magazines.

  27. Well we had a retroactive tax, why not a retroactive ban?

  28. “And let me say this right now: any Republican law maker who goes along with any of this should be primaried. And that’s only because we no longer use tar and feathers or run corrupt and cowardly politicians out of town on a rail.”

    And more’s the pity. In the immortal words of the Firesign Theater, “anybody got any lynch?”

  29. The crazy kid might’ve snapped because he feared being committed, and attacked the school because it took too much of his mother’s love away from him.

    If that’s true, then Mum misunderestimated his capacity for violence; as did most psychiatrists who treat mild Autism, which is not considered to link with violence. Or, he was not diagnosed correctly.

    Mum should’ve stashed things better, really.

  30. Has anyone else noticed that the same people who were telling us we were paranoid and that obviously Obama wasn’t going to go after guns are the ones now rooting for Obama to go after guns?

  31. Fo all we know he just killed the people that had spiders controlling them from the inside and he had to act because they were about to open the doorway and let the mother spider into our world. Who knows what he was seeing, or thinking, why he did what he did. He’s either a callous sadistic evil bastard, a confused nutjob, or BOTH.

  32. Expect ammunition sales to jump quite a bit.

    Oh yeah. ABC made it clear tonight that ammunition is what they’re going to go for.

    Specifically, “assault bullets.”

  33. Well at lest they don’t know about the instant-vivisection soul-killer hellfire bullets yet. We can still use those.

  34. Mum should’ve stashed things better, really.

    Yeah. That’s the point of breakdown here and she really should have known better.

  35. That bit about assault bullets was something. High velocity rounds designed to explode on impact –create wounds trauma surgeons in gun-crime tormented cities hate.

    You know, standard 55 gr FMJ.

  36. How about our reverse time bullets and freeze bullets? Those are safe right? And the ones that reanimate the dead?

  37. I hear Captain America got shot with one of those reverse time bullets so that means Marvel Comics must know about them.

  38. Obama wasn’t going to go after guns are the ones now rooting for Obama to go after guns?

    proggtard news: know the meme before it happens!

  39. Lanza has for example even destroyed his computer to conceal his motives from the police even after his death.

  40. Obama doesn’t care about children or gun violence.

    That’s as bad as calling you a racist.

  41. John Boehner takes time out of his busy schedule of genuflecting and capitulating to our arrogant, petulant president on tax rate and debt limit increases in order to start laying the ground work for capitulating on new gun control laws.

    Boehner calls for ‘discussion’ on guns

    The Crying Orange Man needs to go. Now.

  42. When are you going to admit you were wrong about Obama having gun control on his 2nd term agenda?

  43. Boehner is taking shots at Gohmert?

    does he really think the media is gonna let him in on the dead baby exploitation orgy?

    Idiot

  44. Yep. Boehner for ex-speaker mas pronto andele. He’s not speaking for me. Make him cry harder than he did when he became speaker.

  45. If Obama cared about children or gun violence, why does Eric Holder still have his job?
    For that matter, if Harry Reid cared about either, why hasn’t the ATF been gutted the way the CIA was?

  46. Boehner needs to be asked to step down and if he doesn’t he needs to be conspicuously ‘betrayed’ in his ‘election’ to become speaker, and then he needs to be super akin’ed for the rest of his two year term at every opportunity.

    He needs to be extensively relentlessly Rule 12’ed and made an example of by the people he’s turned his back on.

    I hate to say it, but he’s more than earned it.

  47. DrippyDick,

    If you feel the statement “Obama doesn’t care about children or gun violence” is false, then maybe you can explain why there had been no call from Obama (or any other Democrats for that matter) for “doing SOMETHING” about the “gun violence” in Obama’s home city of Chicago (led by mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s former chief of staff) that saw 24 school children (4 more than in Newtown, you’ll note) killed by guns during the 2011-2012 school year, all despite the fact that Chicago has some of the strict gun laws (and bans) in the country.

    I believe the obvious answer is that there was no political benefit to be gained by tearing up and shedding light on the utter failure of restrictive gun laws represented by Chicago.

    Number of CPS students shot rises, as does fear of more to come

  48. Obama doesn’t care about children or gun violence.

    That’s as bad as calling you a racist.

    So us telling the truth about him is as bad as him lying about us.

    M’kay.

  49. Last thought for the night:

    Reports of record gun sales, and record waits for background checks to be completed, and record runs on 30 rnd magazines, they might be good for us and the country, or they might not. I have to wonder how many people buying because they anticipate an assault weapons ban, etc., are more interested in getting theirs, so to speak, ahead of such a ban than in petitioning government to prevent the ban in the first place. That is to say, opposition to any ban or new regulatory restrictions may soften as fewer people feel that it directly affects them.

    Getting your sport utility rifles and hi-capacity magazines for all your autoloaders, handguns as well as long guns while they’re still legal ought to be a means to an end, not the end itself. The end is to make sure they stay legal, widespread, and readily available.

  50. Obama doesn’t care about children or gun violence

    Of course the context for that is: Obama’s motivation for pursuing more gun control isn’t about children or gun violence. Obama knows banning “assault rifles” will do nothing to stop mass shootings.

    I’m not so sure, my own view is, Obama really does think he can fashion utopia.

  51. The end is to make sure they stay legal, widespread, and readily available.

    I think a lot of people are buying the shit up as a commodity. You know, for the thriving black market to come…

  52. For the benefit of all the progressive numbnuts rolling their eyes and scoffing at the idea that a solution to mass shootings is to ensure that armed people are in a position to shoot back and stop any would-be gunmen in their tracks, I give you Exhibit A:

    the incident started when the man fired shots inside a nearby restaurant “and carried on into the theater.” It’s not clear what led to the shooting.

    Antu says the man headed toward the theater and shot a male in the lot. The age and condition of the victim wasn’t immediately known, but Antu says his injuries did not appear life-threatening.

    The gunman entered the theater, Antu says, where he fired a shot but did not hit anyone. An off-duty sheriff’s deputy working security then shot the gunman.

    Link

  53. “Buy all those magazines ‘monkey boys‘ we’re going after the ammo.

  54. “I’m not so sure, my own view is, Obama really does think he can fashion utopia.”

    Well it doesn’t have to WORK.

    The left expects to be graded on the supposed goodness of their intentions and goals not their results, any externalities, and all the collateral damage along the way. They can always blame the world or Bush or saboteurs, free riders, wreckers when stuff goes to shit.

  55. Geoffb, you forgot to say assault. That’s assault magazines, and assault ammo, thank you very much…

  56. I think a lot of people are buying the shit up as a commodity.

    Great. They now have a vested interest in seeing a second assault weapons ban passed.

  57. OUTLAW!

  58. Hedging is OUTLAW!. Speculating isn’t. Which do you suppose is happening more?

  59. They now have a vested interest in seeing a second assault weapons ban passed.

    It’s probably coming. I ain’t casting dispersions on capitalism.

    Personally I hope the proggs get the message we aren’t going to have it, quick , but I really don’t see things ending well. Either way, they will never give up the dream. We win it now, we’ll probably have to win it again in 15 years. It’s how they role.

    Also, don’t forget, Obama has the next four years to replace Supreme Court Justice’s. It won’t be easier next time.

  60. I meant “roll”, but I think it turned out better as is.

  61. For you eagle-eyed eagle watchers out there, watch ‘em carefully if tots are around.

  62. Oh God man! I don’t want to watch an eagle attack a kid !

  63. Good God, something has to be done !!
    Ban assault eagles !!

  64. Obama’s assault drones…

    In the US, mass child killings are tragedies. In Pakistan, mere bug splats

    Barack Obama’s tears for the children of Newtown are in stark contrast to his silence over the children murdered by his drones …

    If the victims of Mr Obama’s drone strikes are mentioned by the state at all, they are discussed in terms which suggest that they are less than human. The people who operate the drones, Rolling Stone magazine reports, describe their casualties as “bug splats”, “since viewing the body through a grainy-green video image gives the sense of an insect being crushed”. Or they are reduced to vegetation: justifying the drone war, Obama’s counterterrorism adviser Bruce Riedel explained that “you’ve got to mow the lawn all the time. The minute you stop mowing, the grass is going to grow back”.

  65. Bryant was one of them, and he remembers one incident very clearly when a Predator drone was circling in a figure-eight pattern in the sky above Afghanistan, more than 10,000 kilometers (6,250 miles) away. There was a flat-roofed house made of mud, with a shed used to hold goats in the crosshairs, as Bryant recalls. When he received the order to fire, he pressed a button with his left hand and marked the roof with a laser. The pilot sitting next to him pressed the trigger on a joystick, causing the drone to launch a Hellfire missile. There were 16 seconds left until impact.

    “These moments are like in slow motion,” he says today. Images taken with an infrared camera attached to the drone appeared on his monitor, transmitted by satellite, with a two-to-five-second time delay.

    With seven seconds left to go, there was no one to be seen on the ground. Bryant could still have diverted the missile at that point. Then it was down to three seconds. Bryant felt as if he had to count each individual pixel on the monitor. Suddenly a child walked around the corner, he says.

    Second zero was the moment in which Bryant’s digital world collided with the real one in a village between Baghlan and Mazar-e-Sharif.

    Bryant saw a flash on the screen: the explosion. Parts of the building collapsed. The child had disappeared. Bryant had a sick feeling in his stomach.

    Did we just kill a kid?” he asked the man sitting next to him.

    “Yeah, I guess that was a kid,” the pilot replied.

    “Was that a kid?” they wrote into a chat window on the monitor.

    Then, someone they didn’t know answered, someone sitting in a military command center somewhere in the world who had observed their attack. “No. That was a dog,” the person wrote.

    They reviewed the scene on video. A dog on two legs?

  66. Yeah, I saw that too. Not one lefty person I know is talking about that, for reasons that continue to elude them.

  67. As a community honors its heroes, Anderson Cooper remembers its victims

    these things are happening SIMULTANEOUSLY

    so that is very efficient

  68. Obama said he didn’t want his daughters punished with a baby. He is FOR taking a live-birth baby who has survived an abortion attempt and leaving “it” in a closet to die. He’s said not a word about the Mexicans — including a graduation party full of ‘em — killed with “assault weapons” he sent over the border.

    He’s an opportunist looking for ways to take away individual rights and empower the government.

    And you are on of his useful idiots.

  69. Congress needs to stop passing Assault Laws and printing, borrowing, and then spending Assault money.

  70. According to CBS reporter Norah O’Donnell, President Obama is planning to make a statement at noon today announcing a new task group to formulate gun policies in the aftermath of the Newton Connecticut tragedy.

  71. a new task group to formulate gun policies in the aftermath of the Newton Connecticut tragedy…

    “President Barack Obama will on Wednesday announce the first step on gun control following the Newtown school shootings: an interagency task force, led by Vice President Joe Biden, charged with guiding the administration’s continuing response.”

    No worries, Sheriff Joe is on it. I think we can expect reasonable, coherent policies and recommendations to emerge from this brain trust.

  72. Who will be on the committee?

    Place your bets.

  73. Who will be on the committee?

    I have no doubt it will be a carefully balanced mix of gun control advocates, anti-gun activists, gun ban proponents and anti-Second Amendment supporters.

    All overseen by that paragon of rational and critical thinking, Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.

    Winning!

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