Dan Riehl supplies the missing context. Seems like the establishment is going all in to sink Newt and give us Romney. And if they’re unable to, you can bet that they’ll point to a Gingrich defeat — which they’ll help to fuel — as proof that we need to listen to them about which candidates are “electable” going forward.
Here’s the full video of Gingrich on Reagan:
Incidentally, there are many with ties to the Reagan years who are supporting Gingrich and telling a different story. But apparently these folks have escaped the attention of National Review, Ann Coulter, and now, Mr Drudge.
Probably just an oversight, though. Because otherwise we’d almost have to conclude that Drudge, Coulter, NRO, et al are working actively against the man who engineered the Contract with America that gave the GOP the House after 40 years, and working actively for a candidate who continues to support his individual mandate, is for mortgage bailouts (provided you are financed through a GSE), and has hinted, through his advisors, that we can’t really repeal ObamaCare, because there are some really good parts to it that are worth saving and tweaking.
And that would be surreal.
(thanks to John Stephenson)
[…] Jeff Goldstein: Incidentally, there are many with ties to the Reagan years who are supporting Gingrich and telling a different story. But apparently these folks have escaped the attention of National Review, Ann Coulter, and now, Mr Drudge. […]
Rush played audio of Nancy Reagan, in 1995, claiming that “Ronnie passed the torch to Newt.”
At this point making romneybots cry is all the reason I need to support Newt.
Come August I’m really hope Gary Johnson pulls off something historic.
Freakin’ Hobbits simply won’t fall in line.
If the Establishment takes out Newt — and they’re beginning to hurt his numbers — Santorum will once again rise. It’s the Romneys vs. the Hell No, Not Romneys at this point.
Let’s face it, in the 80’s everyone bashed Reagan. Especially the people telling us we should be mad at Rooty-Toot-Noot because he did it. For Christ’s sake, it was Bush Sr. who came up with the term “voodoo economics”.
So… longer, more nuanced Newt Gingrich: Reagan’s policies were great but we shouldn’t keep doing them we should launch the federal government on more big scale (big bux projects). Did I miss anything?
Oh, sorry, I did:
So… longer, more nuanced Newt Gingrich: Reagan’s policies were great but we shouldn’t keep doing them we should launch the federal government on more big scale (big bux projects) because the public isn’t stupid but it peculiarly fixated on the future. Did I miss anything?
You know what really convinced me Newt’s not the guy? Bob Dole’s story about the bucket.
If only the establishment (which doesn’t exist, because they say they don’t) put as much energy into the 2008 general campaign as they’re putting into the 2012 primary… Any bets that they’ll all be “too exhausted” to fight Obama this hard? Any bets they’ll make as big an issue over the LA Times video of Obama at a Palestinian fund-raiser as they are over this video?
Good point, richard. Instead we should enslave the country to a national healthcare system that won’t work.
Does this video cut short or are we supposed to get the full hour-twenty-four?
You mean like the individual mandate Newt’s supported for 20 years? Get this clear… there is not much difference between Newt or Romney… or Newt or Romney or Obama. This is all part of the same DC club. Newt shills for Freddie Mac, Mitt’s old buddies from Bain go to work at the Obama WH… it’s all pustules from the same infection.
I don’t care so much for Newt, but I care less for the way he’s being attacked, particularly in the way those going after him never showed this much fire in going after Obama.
I often have a hard time seeing Newt as a Not Romney.
Stealing strawberries, obviously.
If Newt does win the nomination he’ll know where his bread got buttered.
Sadly, the same goes for Romney.
Newt is getting hammered on the airways here in FL. Mostly by the Romney PAC so Mittens can appear to have clean hands to the ill informed.
with an empty bucket in his hand …
Of all the stupid things to remember. It’s probably time to send Mr. Dole to the home.
Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich have been at odds ever since Newt Gingrich stopped Bob Dole from weakening the “just say no to new taxes” plank in the 1984 Republican Platform the way Bob Dole and Bob Dole’s friend Don Regan thought it should be. If George H. W. Bush had taken his cues from Newt Gingrich instead of Bob Dole, maybe Bob Dole’s brand of fiscal conservatism wouldn’t have sunk his re-election.
If Bob Dole hadn’t been so eager to balance the budget by raising taxes, when Bob Dole ran for President, people might have believed Bob Dole when Bob Dole said Bob Dole wanted to cut taxes.
I’m seeing a PW series entitled Being Mitt Romney, complete with the little tunnel behind the filing cabinet on the floor with five foot ceilings.
Which would be the Team R polling both.
Did I miss anything?
The absurdity of GHWB running as a continuation of RR? Never mind Gingrich’s point about such a campaign being backward-looking — it wouldn’t pass the smell test in the first place.
This thread just reminded me of something.
the man who engineered the Contract with America that gave the GOP the House after 40 years
And now he’s offering us what, exactly?
Newt supporters who cite CwA as a great thing don’t seem to notice that Newt isn’t proposing anything concrete this time around.
Steyn:
How about a different video from 2008.
Thing is, Newt really isn’t a good pick for POTUS, regardless of the Establicans’ dubious motives for supporting Mitt.
The only candidate who genuinely understood our dire straits (Bachmann) is out. The ones left don’t seem vaguely tuned in to how close we are to the edge.
But then, if we were a rational populace (and where does one of those exist?) we’d never have arrived at this juncture. Now that things are looking especially bad, it’s panic all around and irrational choices and running back into the burning building to check that the iron’s been unplugged.
The fact that he’s not Mitt Romney.
Oh.
@28
This is what I get for not watching the debates or the campaign ads.
I stand corrected.
Therein lies my problem with Newt- will he care when the wind is blowing the other way? Will he further tarnish the ‘conservative’ brand after getting elected as one?
Di, Gingrich was Bachmann back in the 80’s.
The people can offer to kill them all, then see whether office holders will choose to listen. Think of it as a kind of reverse propaganda cup. Or, nevermind waiting, nevermind offering, just take after them and be done with it.
Don’t feel bad, Jeff, he hasn’t mentioned it since he posted it, AFAIK. And it ain’t zackly overflowing with detail.
A twisted voice in the back of my head whispers, “Newt Romney, All-American.” But neither one of these clowns is going to win it for the Gipper.
If Hillary Clinton reminds us of our ex-wife (the first one) in Rush’s memorable characterization, Newt can only remind us of that ex-girlfriend who a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty (and really, who among us hasn’t had one of those?)
Now that you’re older and wiser, you recognize that the excitement and the melodrama went hand in hand, and your leary of getting back on that roller coaster,
but man, what a ride!
“A little bit?” Mine were way beyond “little bit”.
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Rotten old bastard. That is all.
that ex-girlfriend who a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty (and really, who among us hasn’t had one of those?)
[raises hand]
Coulter…
Ann, no one in his or her right mind could seriously call Romney “conservative”, unless they were playing these word games of which you speak. Newt Gingrich may have flaws, but I for one like his demeanor, and once liked yours as well. At what price did you find it acceptable to sell out to the Establishment?
Gingrich today.
gop debate
http://live.cnn.com/
Romney is for sure a big silly …. that is very insightful of Newt to see that
Are you a candidate in the “Fight Of Your Life”?
Scared shitless your electorate might finally run into a clue, merely by accident of fate? Paralyzed by fear that the populace will trip over the question they should be asking, but haven’t yet found the wit to discover?
Let us corbel AttenzionSpanzSpazmz.Com over DiverzionzDrumz.Net for you! We’ll have the people distracted from now ’til August 27 2012! WE GUARANTEE they won’t pick up the tiniest inkling what they ought to be focused on, and none the wiser for the fact! Your election committee can’t afford NOT to hire us.
i hear the hanging chads are the opening act
Santorum is being principled on immigration. He’s screwed.
i like dinothors and moon rockth and sometimes when I’m alone with callista we play like I’m a t-rex on the moon and she’s a naughty congressional aid what likes married men – you know – that way
aide I mean
Is it just me or is Romney beating Newt like a rented mule?
swiss bankster romney: #ows/baraCKY
I’m actually warming up to Newt these days. And not just ‘cuz he’s the underdog putting up a fine scrap against an underhanded smear artist. Not even ‘cuz people call him certifiable when I know he’s not.
No, I’m beginning to realize if he is the nominee, I can can see myself not just voting for him in good conscience, unlike McCain or Romney, but I might even be able to work up some enthusiasm.
The realization has cheered me up considerably.
newt-rick-nor coalition might be fun
I can imagine enjoying beating Wolf Blitzer to a bloody pulp.
will baracky release his health records?
Wait, hasn’t it been about three months since some academic proved conservatives are low IQ racists? About due don’t ya think?
Newt is an underhanded smear artist. Lee. If tomorrow mornings news were to inform us that both he and Romney were hit by meteors, that would be a very nice morning.
good allan mitt is an idiot
Newt still has hope in America. The rest meh.
I am beginning to loathe Mitt.
I hope Santorum finishes second to Newt.
Ricky is a pit bull
Fuck hope. Santorum has faith in America and you can actually tell what he believes in by listening to him say it.
mittens will have hate ricks ad out tomorrow.
the “angry” card go mittens/jerk
Hopefully he will double pinky swear that he won’t install ecclesiastical law in the good ol USA
yes let’s play the hispanic card
Tell me America wouldn’t applaud were the four guys to go kick Blitzer’s ass right there on the stage right now. Tag team him, even.
oh just push wolf off the stage and let the cocktail party mob deal with him. hammer wolf with cucumbers.
Hammer Wolf with real hammers.
Aargh! I can’t take this debate. Answer – what’s with the identity politics? My cabinet would be based on merit, not if you’re Hispanic or Irish. And by the way you’d be electing me, not my wife as First Lady.
Pablo, I won’t argue with you, and if I was voting today it would be for Santorum.
Maybe I’m getting all carried away with a tiny glimmer of hope that Romney won’t be the nominee, ANYBODY else, but it did brighten my day.
Pander pander pander. Santorum is landing body blows and nor luap sounds sane.
I think we should stop the embargo of Cuba.
“I think we should stop the embargo of Cuba.”
why?
If I had to pick between Romney and Newt, Lee, I think I’d start praying for a heart attack. Mine or both of them, either way.
why?
Because the time is right. They are no longer in the Soviet orbit.
Because the benefits of opening trade and travel between the countries will far outweigh the liabilities of not doing so.
So, Ron Paul it is, eh Pablo?
“Because the benefits of opening trade and travel between the countries will far outweigh the liabilities of not doing so.”
for whom?
Paul nailed the religious question.
@78 both countries as well as the rest of the western hemisphere.
Do you disagree?
Santorum is hitting statism HARD right now; saying explicitly that our rights come from our creator (God) and not the state-and says explicitly that Obama believes the latter.
Looked to me like he was takin’ it strong to the hoop…
He gets it
“Do you disagree?”
opening up trade with cuba rewards the castro lobby. better to free the peeps 1st.
Please shoot me. Nor luap got it right on difference between religious beliefs and duty under constitution.
Halftime !
And Bob/Santorum is right re natural “god-given rights”.
The people will free themselves if they get a hint that we are behind them.
Santorum and if not him, a brokered convention, leigh. Or, second look at Gary Johnson.
Jesus. An “anti-war” group that was trying to foment a violent revolution, huh?
Santorum is takin’ it to the house.
Tomorrow all of the blather will be about how Newt beat Mitt and vice-versa. In my opinion, Santorum did very well, and spoke to most of the ideas that conservatives hold to be true.
And now he’s delivery a strong finish, complete with an exhibit of how Obama is desperately trying to coopt his message about the need to revive the smokestack industry/manufacturing sector…
rick did good at the close
Sounded like straight up Thomism to me Bob, which, nothing wrong with that. Modern natural right theory, however, it ain’t, which, again, nothing wrong with that. Santorum, I’m thinking, has been excellent, the best on the stage both tonight and in the last show (these are, after all, just shows), but especially tonight. He didn’t miss.
Yeah, Santorum won that debate. Newt Romney was too busy pissing on himself. I’m beginning to draw the conclusion that Ron Paul is a simpleton.
Carlson is taking a reader along with him, I’ve applied.
Duty calls, but I’ll stop back later if I get the chance. The young-un has discovered how to flip over, but wakes up mad if sleeping lightly and ends up on his belly.
For those of you long past this experience in life, the MDs “scare you straight” about the absolute metaphysical imperative that they exclusively sleep on their back.
But since his name could be “pinwheel Bobby”, as he’s flip-flopped more than Romney, or even Kerry, I’m thinkin’ it’s not the end of the world; we’ll find out at his check-up next week…
My Regards to all
Pablo, you’re right. Hope he can keep this going to keep Newt/Romney hard right.
I was just teasing you, Pablo. I think Santorum did the best tonight.
What was with all the loaded Hispanic slant? It’s not like everyone in Florida is hispanic.
Blitzer is still an asshole and even shorter than I remembered.
Wolf: If Raul Castro were on the phone what would you say?
Paul: I would ask him why he called.
That right there’s almost enough to make me vote for him.
All three of my boys slept on their bellies, Bob. When they were really little I used to swaddle them, then roll a receiving blanket up behind their little backs and lay them on their sides. They were propped up like little pigs in a blanket.
Babies startle a lot. They wake themselves up if they are on their backs.
“I’m beginning to draw the conclusion that Ron Paul is a simpleton.”
or comic relief or steering the discussion to sumthing interesting
Brit Hume was just talking Rick up. A crack in the dam?
I’d be more interested what Paul would say if Netanyahu was on the phone about Iran building a bomb…
oh my
U.S. outrage as Egypt bars Americans from leaving
Romney has that “everybody else is able to buy the nomination, why won’t anybody let me…?” look.
The media keeps telling us it’s Romney / Gingrich. If Santorum holds up long enough and Paul drops out, people could start coming around to Santorum. He doesn’t have Newt’s baggage, and he’s not afraid of a fight, either.
rick is attacking mittens on greta
It’s very frustrating trying to find information about the candidates that isn’t slanted by the news media. I’m more than to spend time looking for it, too. No wonder the low info voters are low info. If you are just a news watcher at the gym or while you’re eating a meal, all you get is the headlines. Lord knows there are no decent newspapers anymore, no matter how award winning they may be.
toss a “willing” up in that sentence there
It appears to me Santorum is emerging in greater possession of himself and his beliefs as regards our politics and future. In simple terms, I think I see him growing. Maybe it’s a simple matter of practice, maybe it’s a matter of his focused attention and efforts, but the cause isn’t entirely relevant in the short term, so long as his stronger showing — of his ideas and purposes — takes hold of the voters. On the other hand, he can’t be held responsible for their, or our, failings. He has to go to war with the recruiting pool he’s dealt, and if that recruiting pool isn’t up to recognizing their own needs? Ah well. Who would justly be surprised?
leigh, I sleep on my back, but it makes me snore. On my front, well, we won’t go there. But you still need to equalize pressure.
He certainly seems to have found a fine hook to hang his candidacy on, that being that there’s no daylight between Gingrich, Romney and Obama on Obamacare, Cap and Trade, and …what’s the third thing? I can’t remember. Oops.
Oh, yeah! Bailouts.
so michigan gets interesting?
Santorum sounded so … conservative … tonight. As long as he doesn’t legislate that icky social stuff, I guess we might be okay.
I mean, it’s not like social stuff has any bearing on life.
” As long as he doesn’t legislate that icky social stuff, ”
ax boner about that sh*t
also ax dingy harry
Azizona is winner take all while Michigan is partially proportional. Both on 2/28 Colorado is proportional but has more delagates up than either AZ or MI and comes on 2/7. Maine and Nevada before that on 2/4.
Boner is not high on my list of whom I’d ask anything. Quintessential establishment Republican: “It’s our turn to run things!”
For those of you long past this experience in life, the MDs “scare you straight” about the absolute metaphysical imperative that they exclusively sleep on their back.
If he’s turning himself over Bob he’s most likely okay, as long as you don’t have a crib overloaded with pillow, blankets, comfortes, puffy curb bumpers etc. We did the same side sleeping thing leigh described.
Unlike the frau’s brother and sister-in-law, whose kids both ended up in helmets to fix the flat back of the head from exclusively sleeping on their backs.
I got a phone call from Mitt tonight. Or wait… maybe it was Ro-Mitt, anyone know how to tell the difference?
“Ro-Mitt, anyone know how to tell the difference?”
bain if i knows
Have to send in the absentee ballot tomorrow. Think I’ll be droppin a little below the Romney bubble. I Guess he won’t be calling again.
Thanks for all the input folks. I realize that essentially anyone who’s over 30 had their parents told the polar opposite back in the day.
He’s been so active, since he was 6 weeks old, that unless I duct tape the swaddling blanket he works his way out of it-and he’s too large for the swaddling blankets with built in velcro.
The other non-negotiable admonition the MDs laid on us was no pillows, blankets, etc until they’re a year old. They said no bumpers either, but since he was getting his arm stuck between the crib slats, I got the equivalent of an ultra-tight weave seine net mesh and zip tied it around the perimeter to put a stop to it.
It’s only him, the mattress, and his feet-pajamas, so I’m hoping for the best.
In fact, earlier I found him flipped onto his belly again and sleeping soundly. We’ll see how it goes, I’ll keep my eye on him…
The only drag is I can’t get deep into the conversation!
By the way, Santorum won, in my opinion, large…
I’ll see you all later.
Bob,
All of my kids slept on their sides with one of those little wedge type pillow restraints like this. Prolly explains why they never clean their room ;)
[Santorum] [s]ounded like straight up Thomism to me Bob, which, nothing wrong with that. Modern natural right theory, however, it ain’t, which, again, nothing wrong with that.
Which means it’s an Aristotlean mixer, if you like that sort of thing. It’d be nice if somebody could find a way to reconcile Aristotle with Locke.
Newt has done one thing for good or ill, he has brought out of the closet the media’s Alinsky love. 75 recent articles and counting.
I’m surprised my wife never saw one of those devices Danger!
I guess we’ll have to rely on you, Slart and sdferr to stop Mitt in Fla :)
I’d have to agree on the Thomism sdferr; it’s definitely right bestowed by God as opposed to being part and parcel of our existence.
I’d also have to agree about his “evolution” over the last few months. He’s certainly expressing himself much better than he had in the past, and saying the right things too-at least in my opinion.
As you say, it’s on the voters to understand what’s being said.
#82
I totally agree.Since we’re the only nation embargoing Cuba, Castro has had the whole rest of the world to draw upon. Free the prisoners first, then lift the embargo.
Keep the faces of the Cuban dissidents in the news, or on the blogs.
Is it that Santorum himself has improved as a debater, or is it rather that the media (im)moderators find it harder to relegate him to the second tier when there’s only one tier left?
Lifting the Embargo won’t happen before Castro croaks. The liberals needs it too much.
That’s a very good point Ernst. It did seem that in some of the early debates he’d be lucky to get a question of two asked of him. And then in trying to cover ground from some other, unrelated, prior questions his answers seemed to ramble without a point. Which may have given some folks the impression of disorganized thinking, lack of command of the issue at hand, or inability to focus.
I have to think that more folks must be taking a second look at Santorum after his strong performance last night. At least I hope so.
From glancing at some of the aggregator sites, though, it appears I was prescient last night in saying most of the blather so far seems to focus on opinions that either Newt or Mitt won the debate.
I think you’re on to something there. It’s easier to notice him in a smaller crowd. He’s not snazzy, he’s just got good answers that he believes in.
This is interesting. Not only because it’s something I never knew (but then again, why would I waste my time reading Georgie Stephopopopus, when there’s so many more interesting and useful things to do —exfoliating with a belt sander for instance), but also because it goes to Jeff’s oft-repeated point that the churls will be made to heed their betters, one way or the other:
it’s definitely right bestowed by God as opposed to being part and parcel of our existence.
If you assume the existence of God, and further posit Him as the Creator, then – our entire existence being owed to God – these two are one and the same.
Which is somewhat removed from ‘modern’ natural rights theory, insofar as that theory isn’t much more that the convenient removal of the Creator as an essential element. ie. it avoids all that inconvenient god-bothery.
Unfortunately that’s why modern natural rights theory also susceptible to co-option by the “general will” or the “Übermensch” or the “Führerprinzip” and we find ourselves back to rights deriving from the State because only the State is capable of actualizing them for us.
Or something like that.
Ernst, I remember that. And then the Idiot Party nominated Dole for president in 1996 despite having … well, come to think of it, a field kind of like we have this year … to choose from.
But it wasn’t as if we weren’t warning the non-existent party establishment that Dole would be a bad choice.
Those were dreary times. Bob Dole was the most lackluster candidate we could have run against a young’un like Big Dog.
I resigned myself to Clinton’s second term the second Dole won the nomination.
ThomasD, I happen to agree with you completely, but was simply addressing the philisophical comparison sdferr spoke of.
And Ernst, you are correct in the ability of natural rights theory to be perverted in a manner leading back to statism (fuherprinzip, etc).
Gulliver might help a little, where he relates his encounter with Aristotle’s shade while on Glubbdubdrib. Aristotle seems to me to point to the source of the problem:
Bob. Get a rock-hard crib mattress, one of those zip up travel bag thingys and put the kid on his stomach. I have multiple pediatricians in my family and I also have 4 boys, the pediatricians said back, then side, then back again. The boys said stomach. Granny said stomach. Crazy old Italian lady with the squint from next door who used to watch my oldest while my wife shopped or slept off the long night of screaming, crying, pooping and boob sucking and a cranky baby, (I thought she wanted to boil my first kid in a giant iron kettle with weird herbs and eye of newt. She used to rub him down with olive oil like twice a day. He’s 16 now and has perfect skin. Seriously. If I had known him when I was 16, I probably would have murdered him.) said tummy. We put them on their tummy and they (and we) slept. The pediatricians used to tell us that we were doing a great job turning the baby so his head didn’t get flat, we pretended we were. All of our boys have nice, round, c-section, tummy sleeping, noggins.
Just curious ThomasD, what’s the need for quote marks on modern (“somewhat removed from ‘modern’ natural rights theory”)? Are quotes there for the purpose of indicating that there’s good reason to doubt that a distinction between modern and classical natural right can be made? Or is it simpler, just to mark that we’ve not adequately pinned down the parameters we intend by modern? Or for neither of those, but some other purpose?
I don’t ever remember being conflicted over taking care of my babies. I figure if a freak’in Neanderthal handled it without an Md’s advice, we could get along without.
Granted, I did absorb how my family raised children…
Wait. Is this the same Newt Gingrich who was pushing the Man Made Global Warming Hoax with Nancy Peelousy, and attacking Mitt about Bain Capital in a Michael Moore-ish disgusting fashion? And the same Newt who went after Mitt about immigration, in a disgusting Hispandering fashion? Really?
I’m not happy with Mitt the RINO, but Newt has so many more skeletons in his closet that the Demunists will release for maximum impact.
At this point, I wish Rick Santorum all the luck in the world.