From C-Span’s Washington Journal: Tea Parties are merely ineffective “ad hoc photo ops,” opines his waxy-faced rice paperedness — with all the confidence one expects from a Vanity Fair writer trying to fathom a culture in which Wal-Marts thrive and sidewalk fish markets are as distant a memory as Mr Wolcott’s once-discernable jaw line.
Most telling bit: This can’t be a burgeoning movement because people simply weren’t angry enough!
Sadly, on some level Wolcott has a better understanding of the problems facing conservatism today than do those on the right who like to Twitter and Twat about their various stages of mortification every time a major network finds a hillbilly and sticks a microphone in his face.
Where Wolcott goes painfully wrong in his diagnosis, however, is in his attempt to equate the way leftists act when protesting with the way conservatives behave. For classical liberals and legal conservatives, the very fact of the protest speaks to the degree of its seriousness.
Because let’s face it: Not everyone judges a protest’s success on the size or frequency of its puppet heads and Hitler banners. Which James would know if he ever bothered to venture outside his velvet-fringed, Bordeaux and crab puff cloister…
(h/t Alan D)
The host hits upon one of our biggest problems, I think. We Pragamtic people really hate, despise and hold in contempt those who vote for us ( or anyone not in our immediate and exclusive circle )… thank God others haven’t figured that out yet. Otheriwse we’d be forced to seek jobs in a tough market with no real skills to see us through, other than snark, self-centered stupidity and craven disregard of the principles we constantly natter on about.
crap puff… heh. I think that’s what my dog finds in the litter box.
so, you know he’d have plenty handy.
BECAUSE OF THE OCICATS!
I find it kind of funny, this “authenticity” meme, what with the fact that the Left actually has developed college programs for agitating, funds “community organizers,” and has about them an entire class of itinerant professional protesters.
Wolcott is some sort of visual onomatopoeia. He looks as he is.
“an entire class of itinerant professional protesters.”
And you know, Alec, they have really been a disappointment, however, compared to the protestors of the past. My riot training instructors (when I was PFC John) had all been in the riots of 1969, 1972, etc. When some angry Little Red Book reader, wearing motorcycle leathers and swinging a length of chain comes out of a fog of tear gas – it was on! I have spent 24 years watching Code Pink, Rainbow/PUSH, ANSWER, etc. without once having to remember that front jab or stroke across the shins with the oak baton.
Bah.
I am sure not going to see it from some self-employed, middle class parent of three am I?
Maybe I should have tried the California Guard…at least they have LA.
Wolcott is some sort of visual onomatopoeia.
Brilliant.
That mug is surely built on a foundation of Doritos and cheese dip.
That’d be one fucking huge crab puff.
So, from Wolcot’s perspective, the fact that the Tea Party protesters were, for the most part, mature, literate and non-screachy means that the movement is not serious.
Seriously?
It’s like being surrounded by Teh Obtuse. On the one side I have Rick Moran telling me that the protests are too “unpleasant.” On the other side I have protest expert bloviator Wolcot telling me that they aren’t angry and immature enough. All of this blanketed by the likes of MSNBC and cackling “teabagging” snorts, NPR’s ignorant analysis of colonial history, CNN reporter arguing with protesters and DHS broad brushing almost anybody right of center as “extremist.”
Good grief, Bizarro World is looking more normal every day.
I think the most powerful ting about the Tea Party is its utter confusion and fear its causing the left. They are unprepared for this and unsure how to react. So they laugh nervously, make crude jokes and try to dismiss it. Keep it up guys, you look worse and worse to America in the process.
Young dumbfucks who don’t get laid bring the rage, because they’re smarter than we are.
I’m not going to pick on Wolly more, for the moment, because he really does look as though he’s not long for this world.
Related: Salon on the DC Tea Party. Salon on the G-20 protests.
http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/world/2009/04/02/D97AJC2O0_g20_the_phenom/
He jumped from channel to channel. Well, that’s reporting my friend.
But, I’m sure he got “the complete picture” of the Tea Parties by relying on the MSM.
I want to move to one of those cities that put the Tea Party news on the front page.
(think my new name will get me in good with the pragmatists?)
Natter.
DAN COLLINS EXTREME RIGHT WING DEATH THREAT ALERT!!!
You know how you tell the difference between someone just mostly just miffed, and someone really angry?
Two Words.
Giant. Puppet.
Whatever’s ailing Wolcott, it can’t be worse than having a fir tree growing in your lung.
Is being miffed the same as being unpleasant? Will Rick Moran tsk-tsk me if I say I’m miffed? I need to know these things.
FOR THE PRAGMATIC REPUBLICAN AUTHENTICITY!!!
They(those lefties)are confused because they’ve never seen or been involved in a true-grassroots movement. Heck, the last true-grassroots movement (Read: Civil Rights Movement) was also fighting Democrats (Dixiecrats, I think they were called), so the Dems and Statists have no experience being on the other side.
They can’t claim to be behind this one. Heh.
OMG that’s disgusting Slart.
I want to thank you, Slart, for that story. There shall be no issues with staying on my diet the rest of the day. (ugh)
The left idealizes violence and idolizes the violent. Mumia, Che, Mao, Minh, Ayers, the Black Panthers — they’re lionized by the left because they were violent, not despite it. To them, the willingness to resort to violence is a sign of moral seriousness.
Yes, I know they object to the use of violence — but only when that objection serves their purpose! They threw fits over reports of servicemen in Iraq shooting a wounded jihadi who was trying to set off a grenade, but are silent over the shooting of three pirates who — according to some reports — were trying to surrender. The difference is who is harmed by their outrage. Now that Obama would be harmed by their outrage, it’s muted or completely absent.
So, when confronted by people who are angry, but not violent, the left decides the anger is a show. It’s not authentic, in their minds.
Wolcott is some sort of visual onomatopoeia.
blowhard wins the thread. I nominate the phrase “visual onomatopoeia” as the new go-to phrase for the next blogospheric meme storm.
Oh, Rob, believe me. I get it.
Which is why someone like Moran infuriates me even more than Wolcot because he’s supposed to be on my side in this fight. Instead he’s trying to play the political/blogging equivalent of Miss Manners while ignoring the fact that mannerly, above the madding crowd discourse hasn’t worked for the last ten years.
Thus a CNN reporter can wade into a crowd and argue with with a protester because she’s miffed at an “Obama is the Antichrist” sign while conveniently forgetting the thousands of foul, vituperative slogans shouted and carried against one BushHitler. Violence and slander are fine as long as it’s from the “right” side of the political ledger.
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Funny, you’d think that given the credit for seriousness Wolcott confers to the angry, he and his fellows would take on al Qaeda and other ‘splodey jihadis more resolutely than they have to date.
Wait…when did “The Critic” go from a cartoon to live action?
Remove the hillbillies with a mike in the face and the tea party movement would cease to exist.
Meanwhile,
, well, geez, the guy the CNN reporter is talking to is carrying an Obama as Hitler sign. Can you retire you McChimpyBushHitler thing now, since you exciting Teabaggers are sporting NobamaHitler signs?
I tried putting #30 through Babelfish, but there wasn’t a Gibberish-English tab. Anyone help?
I’m not going to pick on Wolly more, for the moment, because he really does look as though he’s not long for this world.
Lord, Dan, I think you’re right.
I think the guy had been snorting fir pollen, personally.
What IS it with reactionary leftists and hillbillies, anyway?
Why the raging, mindless hatred?
Wowbagger may now commence blowing me.
Most telling bit: This can’t be a burgeoning movement because people simply weren’t angry enough!
But I thought it was being reported that the nutjobs were frothing at the mouth?
I must be missing some crucial nuance or something.
I’ll bet that fat bastard sits at home shoveling spoonfull after spoonful of marshmallow fluff down his gullet.
Marshmallow fluff is teh awesome.
Anyone that disagrees with the Left and Teh Narrative is a redneck hillbily racist homophobe bedwetting cowardly imperialist xenophobic jingoistic greedy fascist and we are supposed to worry about appealling to “the middle” ?
You forgot chickenhawk, JD.
I’ll bet that fat bastard sits at home shoveling spoonfull after spoonful of marshmallow fluff down his gullet.
Nothing as petit bourgeois as marshmallow fluff for our Jabba the Wolly. Cerises virginales avec la crème anglaise, if you please.
“Wolcott is some sort of visual onomatopoeia.”
I suspect he has tiny, vestigial tusks in his jaw and a non-functioning blowhole where only Mrs. Wolcott dares to tread.
“Scrooge mullet”, that’s going into my insult file.
Jabba the Wolly … Sublime.
Wrong, Jim:
Yeah, I’d say it was darn well organized, Wollster. As in, new-mandate well organized. 2010 replacement elections are 18 months away and already the desperation is palapatable. See what I did there?
1,210,000
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Wonder if the stock prices follow the same pattern?
Regards,
Ric
Dammit.
The total is correct, despite my having repeated the first number instead of having the correct second one.
Regards,
Ric
Yu’re all Replubican Weenie Boys. James Wolcott was a “Big Man on Campiss” like Al Gore and he’is comfortable with pretyy girls. Yu’all don’t hav e his style and athletics. You just want to be like him, and thats’ why yu’re all making fin of him.
There’s a Mrs. Wolcott?!? Which one has the bigger breasts, then?
Yeah, I’d say it was darn well organized, Wollster.
Damn right! It was minutely orchestrated by Fox News, the RNC, Limbaugh, Hannity and Karl Rove.
Friggin Wolcott can’t get anything right.
There’s a Mrs. Wolcott?!?
Yes. In addition to the sandy coitus Walcott enjoys after a round of single combat with the other Bull Elephant Seals, there is a human woman that is responsible for publishing his work.
Friggin Wolcott can’t get anything right.
Except mealtime!
Scrooge had a mullet? How cutting edge (for the time).
The reaction shows that they don’t have a plan or an answer to these Tea Party Protests. They never expected this, and the time it takes them to work themselves into accepting what is happening is real will make any reaction they give either overkill or overtaken by events.
God bless you Mr. Goldstein, for ‘Scrooge mullet’. God bless us, every one.
Look, it’s Big Jim with someone to be danced with/devoured. Note the lighting of all of his chins:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gallery/7/2007/05/medium_489901310_1c8acb9575_o.jpg
I wonder what he did with the leftover tent poles what came with his jacket.
“For classical liberals and legal conservatives, the very fact of the protest speaks to the degree of its seriousness. ”
A wonderful system: merely having an event is ipso facto guarantee of its success.
Nice lie, meya
Alec, I think your link was a bit flawed. Here’s the one I remember.
meya
why are you here? Seriously? You sneer at people who take the US Constitution seriously, though you appear to have more brain matter than Nishi Mengele or Walthor Mitty, but you act like the lone person in the audience watching Susan Boyle who refuses to stop mocking her because no matter how true and wonderful her real talent, one doesn’t authenticate the person you despise under any circumstance.
“You sneer at people who take the US Constitution seriously”
Please. Its sneering at people who think they’re being serious when they equate the constitution with what jefferson says. Who doesn’t want to discuss John Marshall with JHoward?
“but you act like the lone person in the audience watching Susan Boyle who refuses to stop mocking her because no matter how true and wonderful her real talent, one doesn’t authenticate the person you despise under any circumstance.”
You’re really stuck on this Boyle phenom.
You’re really pretty stuck on yourself, meya. I’m declaring open season.
You’re really stuck on this Boyle phenom
Two mentions is “stuck”? My, how revealing.
“Alec, I think your link was a bit flawed. Here’s the one I remember.”
Might want to add a deep fat fryer serr8d. Otherwise, magnifique.
I was also figuring that you could do something great with Janet N in a 1950s-1960s football picture/card.
Like maybe Jan’s head on Butkus:
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they equate the constitution with what jefferson says.
Liar.
Oh you like talking to JHoward too? I mean, he says he means ‘jeffersonian’ when he says ‘constitutional.’ Who doesn’t want to talk to a guy that ‘takes the constitution seriously’ like that?
If I post a comment, but it still doesn’t show up after 6-7 hours, why is an attempted reposting now a “duplicate” comment?
If a comment was never posted, how can it be duplicated??
This is the part that says that the leaders of the Left are scared. All their minions run on adrenaline powered emotional rage. That is the theater, the theatrics they bring to every protest. It is a mile wide and an inch deep.
They know, because it is also in them, the Left’s leaders, that truly deep, abiding, forceful dispute is not boisterous, it is cold. Their protesters playact a quarrel, like children, amateurs.
Real disputes, ones that can’t be plastered over or swept under the rug, are sober affairs. The stakes are to high. They see that in the Tea Parties, actual real opposition, sober, cold, grim, and it scares them.
Too not to, also grim was not what I wanted, determined is closer.
Who would you least care to see washing his car shirtless and wearing a pair of tight cut-off jeans : Rush or Wolcott? Good thing that I’m a bodybuilder/fashion model completely immune to insults about my appearance.
These protestors remind me of some Frank Zappa lyrics, “Free is when you don’t have to do nothing or pay for nothing. I gotta be free!†It seems that since the taxes for most of these people haven’t been raised, what they are protesting is government spending. I’m guessing that not one of the handful of protestors was someone recently laid-off and desperately looking for work. If they had a rally for those people you could count on a good crowd. For all of the push this protest received on Fox, the turn-out was pretty lame. 5,000 people in Sacramento? Any way you slice it, that ain’t many hicks.
Wolcott could stand to put some teabags on those fucking sacks under his eyes. Jesus James!
finally had a chance to glance at the clip. he sounds much more whiny than I would think he would with that huge noggin. particularly at “There’s a REASON”
It seems that since the taxes for most of these people haven’t been raised, what they are protesting is government spending. I’m guessing that not one of the handful of protestors was someone recently laid-off and desperately looking for work.
Assumptions and guesses don’t make a very convincing argument alex.
For the Left money is the only animating principle in anyone’s life. They have no deeper side to their life and expect that of all others. Freedom? Liberty? They are to spit on.
Alex, you’re an idiot. Those hicks are apparently a tad brighter than you since they’ve managed to figure out that our taxes WILL be raised in the very near future.
And, here’s a clue – perhaps, just perhaps, they’ve been pushed to the breaking point. We’re fucking taxed to death. The slow creep has been going on for decades.
Line in the sand, basically.
When the government rapes the capital markets cause it decides to run trillion dollar deficits, the cost of capital goes up for everybody. I’m just glad people are speaking up and giving a face to them what are not complicit in this dirty socialist fiasco.
And, Alex seems confused about the mentions of Wolcott’s appearance. Honestly, I saw it in HD last night, and he looked like he was about to keel over. Perhaps he needs to get off his arse for his channel-surfing approach to “research” and take in some fresh air.
And, what does the media do, Happy? We’re being Palinized. Stupid hicks (from Wasilla) is the meme. Except for that Garfalago-bitch, who has declared us all white supremacists or something. I couldn’t stand to watch the clip.
You’re telling me all of those mouth-breathers at these puny protests earn more thatn $250,000 a year and have seen their taxes go up? It’s funny how none of you objected when Bush ran up the deficit during a relatively healthy economic era. I’d blame a lot of our current crisis on his foolish policies and last year’s spike in oil prices. How much wealth poured out of our country into the hands of some of America’s worst enemies because Bush gave them the excuse of the two wars to jack up prices?
Taxed to death? I don’t think that. What we lack is good services for the money we spend. I’d rather cut back a carrier group or two and have decent health care.
Here is my question to all of the folks here who insult anyone with an opposing viewpoint: what kind of society do you hope to build? And examples? How “conservative” do you want to be? I’m looking for things to be more liberal; more like Amsterdam than Islamabad, but that’s just me.
For the Left money is the only animating principle in anyone’s life. They have no deeper side to their life and expect that of all others. Freedom? Liberty? They are to spit on.
Yeah, that’s us. You hit it right on the head. Seriously, that’s about the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever read here, and that’s saying a lot.
As far as the hicks label: if the shoe fits, wear it proudly or go do some traveling and see how other people live. There’s more to live than Jesus and guns.
This one is stupid. I have to pack and go to a midwestern farm state.
“what kind of society do you hope to build? And examples? How “conservative†do you want to be?”
You know – America. I remember her so fondly.
“You’re telling me all of those mouth-breathers at these puny protests earn more thatn $250,000 a year and have seen their taxes go up?”
Methinks they object to the notion that the solution to sundry problems is to vilify a discrete group of people and confiscate their shit. It’s as much a rejection of the underlying philosophy as knowing that eventually they’ll be in the 3 or 4 percent whose shit we need to take this time because Dipshit has pre-spent future tax revenue.
“It’s funny how none of you objected when Bush ran up the deficit during a relatively healthy economic era.”
Um, you weren’t here, were you? To put the question to you, which of your precious domestic spending programs would you roll over and have had cut during Bush the Lesser’s administration?
“I’d rather cut back a carrier group or two and have decent health care.”
Get a big-boy job and you can have decent health care, and the Navy can have what it needs. Looks like a win/win to me.
You’re telling me all of those mouth-breathers at these puny protests earn more thatn $250,000 a year and have seen their taxes go up?
You’re a liar, just like your Plastic Presentdent.
To take just one example, anybody who smokes has seen a massive tax increase.
It’s funny how none of you objected when Bush ran up the deficit during a relatively healthy economic era.
Liar. Many people here objected with Bush ran up the deficit.
And, as bad as the Bush deficits were, Teleprompter Jesus has already outdone him, 4 months into his term.
In fact, he’s going to outdo all previous administrations combined.
You’re not very good at the “reasoning” thing, are you? Or maybe you just think we aren’t.
Hint: you’re wrong.
I’d rather cut back a carrier group or two and have decent health care.
You’re not very good at the arithmetic thing, either, are you?
The Navy’s (the entire Navy, mind you, not just a “couple of carrier groups”) had a proposed budget for 2009 of $149.3 billion.
300 million Americans. Hmm… that works out to about $497 per capita. For the entire Navy.
The Navy has 11 carrier strike groups at the moment.
If we assume that all Naval expenditures go to carrier strike groups (which is far from the case, needless to say), cutting out a “couple” of them would yield a saving of about $90/year for every American, or about $7.50/month.
Yeah, that’s some “decent health care” you’re going to get for that figure, moron.
alex, you ignorant slut!
Do only people who make $250,000 a year use tobacco products?
Do only people who make $250,000 a year have capital gains from investments?
Do only people who make $250,000 a year put gas in their cars or pay an electric bill or a gas bill (cap and trade if your peanut brain can’t find the connection.)
Ya see there alex, taxes take many forms and the notion that only people making $250,000 were going to pay more taxes Was. A. Lie. Typical of the Dems to boast about the lie while stuffing non income type taxes down our throats in stimulus and spending bills that people aren’t even reading.
Embrace the nuance, alex! The administration is projecting a deficit of over 10 Trillion dollars! That’s their numbers, genius. If the country is broke, how do you think we’re going to pay for your “decent health care” (run by the same managerial savants who run the Veteran’s Admin. and Medicare?) Of course it will appear as even more and higher taxes down the road when Obamamessiah will shrug his bony shoulders and say “Hey! What can I do? sfter all, I inherited this mess from BushHitler!” just before he reaches even deeper into everybody’s back pocket through both income based and non-income bases “revenue enhancers.”
No doubt you will cheer that prospect as our children and grandchildren are sucked dry to pay the crushing debt. (And we haven’t even begun to talk about the massive funding deficits in Medicare ans Social Security.)
Oh and by the way. As far as the “eliminate a carrier groups or two for decent health care:” Only if you volunteer to defend me by taking up a weapon and defending our country. CHICKENPROG!
Now go back to KOS and resume screaming about how Tea Bag protesters are homophobic, racist, Xtian yahoo hick wad o’ tobacky users incapable of making any statement other than, in response to having their liberty stripped away one earmark and spending program at a time, “Thank you, sir, and may I have another?” If the message is just bend over then you first.
BTW, little alex, I’d lay long odds that the mean IQ and educational level on this site is comfortably higher than yours.
Over ten years, just in case some tool comes back to argue.
Spies: Let’s see now:
Navy’s total budget per year: $149.3 Billion
Obama’s Health Care Initiative: $643 Billion over five years.
Why if we just eliminated the Navy altogether, we can pay for that puppy! That lousy 8 billion to ACORN wouldn’t pay for crap.
Nuance: The other white meat!
Amsterdam, so which government approved, licensed, activity is it? Drugs? Prostitution? Assisted suicide? The comparison with Islamabad is a tell. Religion is the bogeyman. The relative lack of religious belief in Amsterdam does not mean freedom. Only that the things allowed, licensed, by the authorities are different, submission is still required. It is the freedom of a kindergarten, different teachers, different rules, but teacher is in charge, always.
Socialism, in all it’s forms, is an economic system which requires the political system’s monopoly on force to impose itself on all. It is a type of “hydraulic empire”, one where the ability to earn money, jobs, is the essential thing controlled by the powerful.
Money, jobs, these are powerful motivators. They are levers that politicians can use to gain and keep power. They are however not all there is to life.
There are more powerful forces than the economic ones. Ones that socialism has no means to address and thus it needs to relegate them to lower status, by defining them as that which they are not. Freedom is not a license handed down by government.
I’m still waiting to hear an example of what sort of ultra-conservative society you want to build. What’s your model? America? When? Maybe someplace in an Ayn Rand novel? A Christian state I would imagine. What about health care? Where is your model? I’ll take any European system over ours and I have seen several first hand. I got news, they aren’t the socialist hellholes Rush describes. But go ahead and live in your Jesus freak bubble brought to you by Glen Beck and the Heritage Foundation.
alex: Those cartoon conservatives dancing around your parent’s basement, cackling with evil glee?
They aren’t real.
Oh, And I’ll answer your question when you answer my three about taxes. It’s only fair, don’cha know. You don’t seem to be real big on that whole question and answer thingy.
I’m still waiting to hear an example of what sort of ultra-conservative society you want to build.
Translation: “Since my lies have been demolished, I will now attempt to change the subject.”
Tell us again how eliminating “a couple of carrier groups” will provide “decent health care” for everyone, little alex. Tell us again how only those making more than $250,000/year have already seen a significant tax increase, little alex.
What’s your model? America? When?
When the Constitution still meant something, little alex.
A Christian state I would imagine.
Hint: that would be because you’re fucking stupid.
There aren’t any fundamentalist Christians here that I know of, and the Christians who are here would never go for any kind of theocratic state.
What about health care?
What about it? It’s not an enumerated power of the federal government under the Constitution. Thus, irrelevant.
But go ahead and live in your Jesus freak bubble
Go ahead and argue with the cartoons in your head, little alex.
It’s sooooo much easier than a real debate, isn’t it?
Uh huh, Alex, we certainly are extremists.
I’ve lived in foreign countries several times for extended periods: Italy, Mexico, Czech Republic. I love all those countries in certain ways, but I’d much rather be here. It’s interesting that those Euros are telling us that our economic interventionism is going a bit too far, isn’t it?
We understand what it all boils down to: you agree with Baracky that everything in the US is broken and needs to be fixed. What could possibly go wrong?
Well, speaking as a “fundamentalist Christian” Spies, I’m all for the “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s” scriptural truth. Nothing good comes from mandated religious theocracies outside of the Vatican. alex displays his ignorance when he characterizes even conservative Christians as wishing for a “Jesus state.”
That sort of religious contempt is only to be expected from many on the drooling left and from a growing number of “conservative” Republicans.
BTW: What would a “Jesus freak bubble” look like?
Why do we always get the dumber-than-dirt B List fascist trolls around here?
Maybe the A List is smart enough to stay away?
Obama doesn’t say everything is broken, saying such is hyperbole. Certainly our financial system has breaks, what could possibly go wrong is that denialists and head-in-the-sand-types will do nothing and allow our system to self-destruct further.
To fix our system is not to hate our system, it’s the rational response.
BTW: What would a “Jesus freak bubble†look like?
Maybe like a combination bouncy house and ball pit.
The shell would be covered with religious iconography, and instead of balls, the pit would be full of Bibles.
Well, speaking as a “fundamentalist Christian†Spies, I’m all for the “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s†scriptural truth.
I’m pretty sure that’s not what little alex had in mind, BJT…
On the other hand, since the Catholic Church now falls under the heading of “right wing extremist”, you never know.
“What’s your model? America?”
Why is he making the answer a question? He probably idealizes Kennedy and Camelot, like so many of our Leftard friends, without making such a big deal about how everything was a cryptofascist hellhole. Cue “you probably just want segregation back” in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . .
“I’ll take any European system over ours and I have seen several first hand.”
Like Canada? It’s awesome if your issue is a broken finger or mononucleosis. Cancer of the lymph system is another story entirely.
You see, alex gives the whole thing up there – he’ll “take” healthcare – meaning, he’ll stick to gaming, trolling, and masturbation in the basement for 16 hours a day, and you’ll work to provide it for him. He’ll probably devote some time to how everything is still “bullshit” regardless.
“I got news, they aren’t the socialist hellholes Rush describes”
You haven’t a fucking clue. They’re living on the declining balance of a society that was, not one that is dynamic and replenishing itself. You can decree that one or two generations are bathed in perfect amniotic comfort, but you can’t sustain it indefinitely.
Oh, and little alex: the only significant accomplishments of Your Lord and Savior so far have been to transfer vast amounts of taxpayer monies to banks and auto companies.
That doesn’t sound very “progressive” to me.
Troops in Iraq: still there.
Troops in Offgaaaaaaaawneeeestawn: still there (and moving into Pockeeeeeeestawn).
Prisoners in Guantanamo: still there.
Gay marriage: still not recognized by the federal government.
Dope: still illegal.
CIA “torture”: no one will be prosecuted.
Patriot Act: still in force.
Yeah, that’s quite the “progressive” record Barry is racking up.
Heh.
You can decree that one or two generations are bathed in perfect amniotic comfort, but you can’t sustain it indefinitely.
Especially since a very large portion of the European “social welfare” system has been made possible by them not having to pay for their own defense.
Once Barry cuts our military to the bone, that’s no longer going to be feasible.
Couple that with the declining demographic picture and they’ve got a looming disaster on their hands.
What happened to little alex? Did we break him already?
Off to work.
Trustfund societies. They found living on the coupons wasn’t enough and so started into the principal. A limited resource. As SBP noted we have subsidized them through our military. If Obama takes that away, they will face nothing but bad choices at least in the short term. Bad in the long term if the easier, and wrong ones are made.
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Ya know, I wish someone more eloquent than I would drive home the point about how bigoted the typical lefty is. They declare themselves worldly, tolerant, sophisticated, yet they’re incapable of understanding people who live next door to them.
Rob, fortunately, George Will is on the case.
Wonder if Mr Will believes baseball players should be wearing bow ties.
Fred Astaire was a dancer and actor in the studio system. Why the fuck would I want to emulate that as a rule?
And of course, Grace Kelly… Well, we can’t ALL be royalty, George…
Will is your douche bag, you can keep him. And as far as the looming disaster of European health care systems, ours already is a disaster. 50,000,000 uninsured is a crisis, no looming necessary. Our disaster is here. If conservative ideas are so great then why is the country such a mess after 8 years of Bush leadership?
And let’s face it, without me you’d just have your circle jerk of retards like bmoe, happyfeet, and that maggie hag. Signoing off so be sure to wear your protective googles.
Gosh, that’s terrible that you’re going. BTW, it’s awfully gullible for you to buy that 50 million figure, which has been unravelled and found extraordinarily mendoucheous. George Will is just shilling for Sansabelt!
Since Maggie’s not here right now, I’ll perform her duty.
Got a link for that 50,000,000 uninsured number?
Question: “If conservative ideas are so great then why is the country such a mess after 8 years of Bush leadership?”
Answer: “Um … because George Bush wasn’t a Conservative?” DING, DING, DING!
“I’ll take ‘Five Ways That Alex is a Clueless Hack’ for $400, Alec!”
Give alex a few days, Carin. that number will be 70,000,000. It grows like the living Constitution, it does!
Two Georges, Will and Bush, these are not the “conservatives” you feel they are. But then so much of the world is not as you feel it to be.
Collectivist’s entities, such as the nicely rounded 50 (formerly 45) Million uninsured persons (a sizable herd, no?), cannot, by definition, be atomized into individuals, each with a current station and stance as an actor in the world who can choose (or be chosen for, in the case of children). That would be tantamount to conceding the argument before it even begins, so let’s not go there, is the way the thinking goes (if you can call it thinking). That argument will always revert to a question of what there is in the world, what is a thing and what is not. What is a something, identified for the purposes of seizing whatever power that something may have and what is a fiction built for the purposes of obtaining power to wield over the somethings with any portion of power left to them.
“50,000,000 uninsured is a crisis, no looming necessary.”
alex thinks that he can hide amongst them and that we won’t notice that his lack of insurance – not health care – is a result of his inability to roll out of bed before 10:30 A.M. consistently.
Alex of course omits the percentage of those “uninsured” who are young and healthy and are uninsured by choice. The Fortune 100 company I work at gives X number of dollars per year in “flex credits”. You can spend it on health insurance, life insurance, legal counsel, etc. from the benefits menu. OR you can take it as cash in your paycheck. The younger and singler you are, the more you take in cash.
Man, TBogg’s take down of Ric Locke (from Hot Air) was awesome. You guys should check it out here
“OR you can take it as cash in your paycheck. The younger and singler you are, the more you take in cash.”
I’ll take mine in Bourbon and whores, please.
“TBogg’s take down of Ric Locke (from Hot Air) was awesome.’
I can’t seem to find it at your link.
Alec – All I could find was an asshat comment from the creepy timmah.
“All I could find was an asshat comment from the creepy timmah.”
I don’t know, I kind of think they’re plucky for accusing all of those Social Security-addicted Snowbirds and Military Bases of sucking down the precious tax Dollars of the Eeevile corporations located in New York and New Jersey.
I see little alex came by to drop another lie and then run away.
What’s wrong, little alex? Can’t hold your own in a debate with the uneddimacated Bible-thumping hicks?
Let me revise my earlier estimate slightly:
I’d bet money that the mean IQ and education level on this site is at least one standard deviation above those of little alex. Possibly two.
I’d also bet money that little alex has never held a real job in his life, and that his extensive knowledge of those oh-so-sophisticated Europeans derives from a short-term vacation funded by his parents.
Oh, and little alex? Upwards of 50 million of those ultra-cool Europeans got murdered by their own fascist, left-wing governments in the previous century. I believe that people like you generally fell under the heading of “useless eater” during those times.
So, that’s something you might want to consider.
Soooo strong, right until the swing and miss at the end….
Anyone arguing he’s a member of a group two standard deviations above the mean from any other blog comment class (strange how you can’t seem to win an election) and attempts to prove that by channeling the Lucianne Goldberg’s halfwit son’s retarded thesis forfeits the right to misuse psychological jargon.
A spy, brigand, pirate hasn’t failed this badly since the SEAL’s shot three of them last week. Of course, if I too picked an Electoral College win and a five point popular vote margin for John McCain, I’d probably hide in Somalia too, rather than continue to embarrass myself by calling other comments little and stupid.
Also begs the question, if you’re such a serious intellect, how do you have time to post 40 times an hour on an obscure blog dedicated to the personality cult of a deranged, pro-war, pro-torture “academic”? I mean, you people are completely discredited. You’d think you’d at least have the decency to stop stamping your feet and alleging your king of the sandbox, when everybody left the sandbox for the tree house last year.
P.S. Loved the take down of Wolly by the way, just so classy to assert he’s wrong, ’cause he’s fat. Sort of ironic coming from a group which claims Karl Rove and Jonah are ubermen.
Anyone arguing he’s a member of a group two standard deviations above the mean
I’m not “arguing” it. I have hard evidence to show it.
Also begs the question
That doesn’t mean what you think it means, idiot.
how do you have time to post 40 times an hour
It’s Friday night, idiot.
Now, I realize that you pull shifts at Wendy’s on nights and weekends, but that doesn’t mean everyone does.
Should’ve stayed in school, “lee”.
“SEAL’s”
“SEAL’s” what?
“your”
“Your” what?
English isn’t your first language, is it, son?
BTW, “lee”: why do you keep coming back here under new names?
Surely you’re not afraid of little ol’ dumbass me?
In the troll bin you go, chump.
50,000,000 uninsured is a crisis…
How is that so? A few decades ago nobody on the planet had health insurance, and we all got along just fine. Why is it mandatory now, you reckon?
What’s 1 SD 115? 120?
I’d buy that actually. A few probably pull an easy 3 SD.
Yeah, 15 is the SD on the WAIS, mean is 100.
I’m sure that many people here are 3 or more.
One reason I believe your theory is I know where I sit on the scale and I’m often surprised at the brilliant comments I read here.
I sit at around 78, btw.
Are the various trolls that comment included? I’m sure they could lower the site by 1 SD or more.
Then again quite awhile back thor claimed that nishi was 2 SD above normal which would be 132 and that he was himself 3 1/2 SD above which would put him at 156. So who knows. Maybe we have the smartest resident trolls on the internet.
Thor and nishi are mentally ill, not dumb.
When you stand up I’m sure that doubles, at least.
I think he must be using metric IQ or something, geoff.
Or maybe he dropped the first digit.
I kid, I kid.
My actual IQ? Underachiever.
Something like that as I know he is well above the 2nd SD and most likely the 3rd as well. That’s why I guessed that it was half, but dropping the first digit is quite likely too.
Now wait a second. I earned that title back in High School.
Alex and lee, when added together, would lose a battle of wits with a head of cauliflower.
Yeah, you take a retarded hack thesis by Doughy Pantsload to write “leftist fascism” (a bit like “dry rain” or “bright dark”) and you think my typo exonerates you? You tool, you are alleging you have a 130 IQ and you can’t even read a poll? How is President McCain, spy?
Lastly, your confession that your Friday night is free from anything like a social engagement is not exactly surprising; to paraphrase, mean and stupid is no way to go through life. Take your head out of Professor Outlaw’s bum and make a freakin’ friend.
P.S. 5 points??!!!???? He lost by 8! How could you predict Pennsylvania for McCain, when McCain had basically abandoned Pennsylvania? There’s still time, SBP, you could read a real history book and learn something.
pick a name and stick with it, Kirk. Or else take it somewhere else.
Eh. On second thought, life’s too short.
For what it’s worth, I’d be very surprised to find out that SBP was at 130. Hint to Kirk: his comment set the lower bound.
Further hint, the excelsior!: Kirk, the point of this site is to steal Jeff’s techniques. Writing’s a craft. Start stealing.
Furthest hint, the ne plus ultra! limited camouflage Zune edition: yeah, it’s scary, isn’t it? Thor is pretty smart. That’s why I want to score some mescaline off him. I know he’s carrying.
I iz not hag!
sorry, just a bit creeped out about being singled out for three comments out of 100 and two of them are riffing on Jeff’s funny typo (that no longer exists). there’s something else going on…
That last paragraph.
I.
Wish.
I.
Could.
Write.
Like.
Jeff.
I love the magical thinking involved in the argument for transferring defense funds to social programs. “If we just cut a few tens of billions from that nasty defense budget and add it to the hundreds of billions we already spend on social programs all our social problems will go away”.
Question: If you reward health care bureaucrats with more money because there is a health care crisis does this establish a motivation to fix the health care crisis?
I’ve watched our governments efforts to bring more people under the government provided health care umbrella for decades. It seems that every time more people are brought under the governments wing a far greater number of people are priced right out of the market.
I’ve had to associate or deal with many different kinds of people in my misspent life. Quite a few of them were hicks, hillbillies, white trash-trailer trash. I’ve yet to hear any of these sorts come out in defense of conservative or classical liberal values. Why should they when the welfare state keeps them so comfortable? When the left assaults the same middle class they envy and despise so deeply?
Oh yeah Alex is a tool. Outlaw!
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Comment by B Moe on 4/17 @ 7:52 pm #
“50,000,000 uninsured is a crisis…
How is that so? A few decades ago nobody on the planet had health insurance, and we all got along just fine. Why is it mandatory now, you reckon?”
I think part of the reason is that health care has gotten so expensive, but the bigger part is that our public figures have been beating this drum for decades. The second is largely responsible for the first imo.
Hey fun game Alex.
“If conservative ideas are so great then why is the country such a mess after 8 years of Bush leadership?”
Now I’ll try
If air conditioning is so great why did setting my couch on fire cause my living room to get so hot?
If maintaining altitude is so great why did pointing the nose of the plane down cause the ground to get so close?