October 2, 2008
VP Debate Open Thread [UPDATED]

Fair. Balanced. Dignified.

– Well, provided Reuters manages to have Palin checked for a secret earpiece — you know, just to be sure. And if that proves a dead end, perhaps Ms Ifill will be good enough to check Governor Palin’s oversized breeder pooter for some sort of walkie talkie connecting her directly to the Lord.

Because let’s face it: this queen of the doublewides may be remarkably stupid. But she’s remarkably stupid like a fox.

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update: For those interested in instantaneous PR , the McCain campaign claims Biden lied 14 times.

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update 2: My personal take is this: for the most part, women simply look better in make-up.

PERCEPTION IS REALITY, PEOPLE! GOOGLE IT!

– Oh. And ‘Eagleton…?’

That one’s for you, Joshua Micah Calvin Coolidge Julius Caesar Tuskahoma Marshall.

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  1. Comment by Mikey NTH on 10/2 @ 6:46 pm #

    Nope.

    Not gonna do it tonight.

    I’ll read what others say; so that the bar can be kept free of low politics.

  2. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/2 @ 6:46 pm #

    Mav will be usin’ flags to send message to her by semaphore…

  3. Comment by alppuccino on 10/2 @ 6:47 pm #

    Brit Hume. I’m a fan. But this close to his retirement, he may be loosening up a little too much. Leave the funny noises to Shep, Brit.

  4. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 6:47 pm #

    Phrank Phahrenkophph, poohbah. Paulkirk, poohbahsidekick.

  5. Comment by alppuccino on 10/2 @ 6:50 pm #

    Questions for Joey:

    1. Sen. Biden. Obama says the fundamentals of our economy are NOT strong. What do you see as the fundamentals of our economy?

    2. Sen Biden, how much money did YOU take from Fannie Mae?

    I love this one. Joe might just say something like I NEVER TOOK ONE DIME FROM FANNIE MAE!

  6. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 6:54 pm #

    Did they check for speakers up Biden’s ass?

  7. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 6:57 pm #

    I think Pelosi is up Reid’s ass tonight, Dan.

  8. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 6:57 pm #

    Prediction for biggest sticking point: Women’s issues. Mostly b/c of VAWA vs. Palin’s stance on abortion.

  9. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 6:57 pm #

    If she wins some idiot will start suggesting she wasn’t in the cone of silence before the debate.

  10. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 6:59 pm #

    “Biden only has to stand aside and watch this train wreck.”

    Joey IS the trainwreck

  11. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:01 pm #

    Ho-K, here we go

  12. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:02 pm #

    You can tell Gwen’s spent too much time in DC, owing to the aggressive ugliness of her garb.

  13. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:03 pm #

    You’re a good looking guy!

  14. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:03 pm #

    Biden wins coin toss. Elects to receive.

  15. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:03 pm #

    Sarah asks permission to call him “Joe”

  16. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:04 pm #

    Biden is going with the 8 year deregulation stuff…

  17. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:04 pm #

    Excess of deregulation, permitting Fannie to run wild . . .

  18. Comment by guinsPen on 10/2 @ 7:04 pm #

    The question still stands.

  19. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:04 pm #

    Focus on homeowners, check.

  20. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:06 pm #

    Hahahaha. Fannie & Freddie.

  21. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:07 pm #

    Great opening by Sarah

  22. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:07 pm #

    God, she looks like a tent.

  23. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:08 pm #

    Biden chops McCain’s statement to spin it against him

  24. Comment by serr8d on 10/2 @ 7:08 pm #

    That’s you, Biden. Senator partisanship.

  25. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:08 pm #

    96% of votes along party lines.

  26. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:10 pm #

    What? Personal responsibility? RACIST!

  27. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:10 pm #

    Sarah “personal responsibility”

  28. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:11 pm #

    WHEN did Obama warn about subprime crisis??? Huh???

  29. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:11 pm #

    Joey: Baracky warned us.

  30. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:11 pm #

    Sistah Palin has gotten most of her slogan words in the correct order so far.

  31. Comment by Dan Collins on 10/2 @ 7:12 pm #

    So far Gwen’s doing all right.

  32. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:13 pm #

    Did Biden just say “tax relief”???

  33. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:13 pm #

    Joey: Joey said in Indian accent “Joey I can’t afford it”

  34. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:13 pm #

    Whoa… Sarah IS on the attack

  35. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:13 pm #

    I can’t believe that the McCain camp let Palin on that stage ready to make “predatory lending” the prime mover for the credit crisis.

    Holy Fuck. She’s set the ball…. and Biden in rebuttal is building a wall hermetically sealing off any connection between Dodd and Frank’s regulation, the CRA… Just damn.

    McCain’s team is pretty damned weak, isn’t it? And they don’t read blogs. That much is stark.

  36. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:14 pm #

    Gwen Ifill’s body language is all Biden. She doesn’t like Palin, and it’s a deep disrespect kind of like. And she booted the order giving the first two responses to Biden.

  37. Comment by thorr on 10/2 @ 7:15 pm #

    Here comes the Palin lies.

  38. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:15 pm #

    Talk Straight- SARAH

  39. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:15 pm #

    “I may not answer the question the way you or the moderator might like…I’m going to speak directly to the American People”

    OK!

  40. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:15 pm #

    “Your time is up, DEAR.”

    Any questions?

  41. Comment by serr8d on 10/2 @ 7:16 pm #

    Biden looks more like a used-car salesman than a senator. That teeth-y grin!

  42. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:16 pm #

    Biden LIES about taxes

  43. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:16 pm #

    Gwen to Sarah- Why you be hittin’ us black people with health care

  44. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:17 pm #

    Tmj

    I hope someone is monitoring the time…

  45. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:17 pm #

    Too much botox on Biden. His face is immobile above his cheekbones. New look for him, I think. And he’s lying about taxes, yes.

  46. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:18 pm #

    *watch on my desk*

  47. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:18 pm #

    Sarah unpacks the $250,000 and hits it that it IS small businesses that pay their taxes through their 1040

  48. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:19 pm #

    Poor thing she can’t answer a question without being reminded of the question a second or third time.

    She so smart for a hick-town liar.

  49. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:19 pm #

    *whoa* Palin thrives on WONK! Ifill is visibly irritated; man she dislikes the gov. Biden is going to have to throw some hate out there, I’m thinking.

  50. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:20 pm #

    Oh KEERIST Biden trying to claim middle-class creds!!

  51. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:20 pm #

    Fucking “fairness” out of the mouth of a Democrat means “sorry I forgot the lube” and anybody who can tie their own shoes knows that.

  52. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:21 pm #

    Biden is getting irrated because Sarah is drinking his milkshake

  53. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:21 pm #

    For Biden “fairness” is picking his neighbor’s pocket.

  54. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:22 pm #

    Reduce the dole, reduce government liability on/for people and the endless government mandates.
    Biden?
    Nope.
    Palin?
    Closer.
    Quit giving money away and reconnect people to their obligations.

  55. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:22 pm #

    Yes Biden your light IS blinking.

  56. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:23 pm #

    Too much botox on Biden. His face is immobile above his cheekbones.

    oh, now he’s blinking… but yeah, kinda freaky looking. lots o’ makeup.

  57. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:24 pm #

    Is it just me or does Palin seem substantially better prepared than Biden? She looks nervous, but that seems to be fading.

  58. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:24 pm #

    Lower taxes! And raise the U.S. Govt. debt to $15-trillion, yeah to Bushonomics!

  59. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:25 pm #

    For Biden “fairness” is picking his neighbor’s pocket.

    ITYM “picking all of his neighbors’ pockets equally”.

    I admit I’m not watching the debate. I’m watching a western — “Firecreek” — with Stewart, Fonda, the guy who played Roscoe P. Coltrane on Dukes of Hazzard, and that googly-eyed guy who played the proctologist in the Cannonball Run movies.

  60. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:25 pm #

    So, you’d agree that Obama is going to raise taxes, his bullshit notwithstanding?

  61. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:25 pm #

    Yes RAISE TAXES FOR EVERYONE TO EXPAND THE ECONOMY!!

  62. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:26 pm #

    Biden tossed out “bridge to nowhere”… and when will Palin call him on his and Obama’s votes for the bridge, in the senate?

    Ah, Biden Obama aren’t leaving ANYTHING out of the campaign promise bag.

    He said “eliminate wasteful spending”. Does he know what party he’s in?

    Cool, Joe. “Unpatriotic” may not work as well as he thinks it does.

    Palin reminds that Obama voted for existing oil company subsidy/tax structure. Darn, she’s better on this subject than I expected.

    Sweet. Palin is a good troop. Much better than Biden. He’s got that pride thing bubbling. He’s shitting numbers and playing class war.

  63. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:26 pm #

    Like it or not, Palin has cred in dealing directly with the “Fat Cats” and how to have them commit while Biden only knows how to take their money

  64. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:26 pm #

    Rob

    Sarah is more than holding her own.

  65. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:26 pm #

    Because we need the biggest government we can possibly (not) afford!

  66. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:26 pm #

    Stewart’s limping through town, looking for Fonda, wearing a badge his kids made that says “Sheraf”.

  67. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:27 pm #

    Monkeys can’t figure out how Bush added over $5-trillion to our national debt since taking office….. taxes are evil, we need to borrow! Borrow money, that’s how REppublicans run a country!

  68. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:27 pm #

    I disagree in the strongest possible terms the McCain camp’s decision that the root cause for the credit crisis originated anywhere but congress.

    Goddamnit, you cannot defeat an enemy you WILL NOT NAME.

  69. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:28 pm #

    He said “eliminate wasteful spending”. Does he know what party he’s in?

    Sure. That’s what they say when they want to slash the defense budget and pump up the cash flow to ACORN.

  70. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:28 pm #

    Baracky wrote a LETTER

  71. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:28 pm #

    Adjust the principal!? WTF

  72. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:29 pm #

    BULLSHIT. “Barak Obama pointed out two years ago that there was a subprime crisis.” by Biden.

    Where’s the Bush initiative from 2003, requesting new oversight…? Madam Governor?

  73. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:29 pm #

    And how come no one mentioned the Community Reinvestment Act?

  74. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:29 pm #

    OH FUCK…. Biden wants BANKRUPTCY JUDGES TO LOWER A MORTGAGE’S PRINCIPAL????????

  75. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:29 pm #

    Biden just said, I’m paraphrasing here, ‘I can’t believe I’m losing to this chick.’

  76. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:30 pm #

    Hey Joey, speaking of homes, how many votes did those mortgagees get you and your party?
    Loaf of bread, “low cost housing”, whatever.
    Dole is dole and it only serves to keep senators in their seats

  77. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:30 pm #

    drill baby drill

  78. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:30 pm #

    The gal Stewart was having an affair with shot Fonda, now we get the hopeful (but sad) music.

    Googly-eyed guy — Jack Elam
    Sherrif Roscoe P. Coltrane — James Best

    Now I gotta hunt up my camera.

  79. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:31 pm #

    Tactical mistake. Palin should not have allowed Biden to skate on his characterization of the relevance of Obama’s action then… Palin should not attempt to steer, but to answer.

  80. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:31 pm #

    Nice response on global warming Palin.

  81. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:31 pm #

    The crisis on Main Street caused the crisis on Wall Street, aw, I think Sister Sarah got her metaphors backwards.

    When Sister Sarah speaks slogans suffer.

  82. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:31 pm #

    “Climate change is real, but I’m not going to attribute it all to man”

  83. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:32 pm #

    Adjust the principal!? WTF

    I think the technical term for that is “theft”.

  84. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:32 pm #

    Ah – climate change.
    Hey Eyeful, seen the SUN lately?
    Ever read up on cosmic radiation?
    How about the real danger of particulates – not CO2?
    Or did they not teach you that in J school?

  85. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:32 pm #

    Jack Elam – He could stand in Okie City, lay his finger on the interstate, and the tip will tickle a girl in a truck stop in central Kansas. Big hands, that man.

  86. Comment by flan on 10/2 @ 7:32 pm #

    “Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:27 pm #

    Monkeys can’t figure out how Bush added over $5-trillion to our national debt since taking office….. taxes are evil, we need to borrow! Borrow money, that’s how REppublicans run a country!”

    Democrats: the party of fiscal responsibility. Even I can’t say that with a straight face.

  87. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:32 pm #

    There goes Biden. Ignoring the science and substituting his expert knowledge

  88. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:33 pm #

    Go JOE Go Joe!!!

    Man made global warming. GO JOE!!! Goddamn, we know where the money is invested now, don’t we?

  89. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:33 pm #

    GoJoe, Go! All in on the Man IS BAD!!!

  90. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:33 pm #

    Biden worships at the Church of AGW… he just said the ONLY CAUSE of Climate Change is MAN!!!

    No wonder Obama is pro-infanticide

  91. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    Oh that ‘ol black magic dirty daemon coal

  92. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    Clinton, flan, Clinton was President, look up his budget.

  93. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    You know what? We’ve got an issues election after tonight. Finally. If McCain’s people will actually conduct their operations on that basis.

    “Ten YEARS”. Stick to that, Joe.

  94. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    Ignoring the science and substituting his expert knowledge

    yeah, I think it’s generally a stupid question. what’s true and what’s false? Who the hell knows!

  95. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    Oops, did I mention Black Magic?

  96. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:34 pm #

    Oh – she’s (Ifill) is getting ready to redeem Joe’s ongoing “clean coal hell no” gaffe.

  97. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 7:35 pm #

    Ten years. Ten years. Ten years. How is that? Ten years. Damn stuff must be awful deep in the ground.

  98. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:35 pm #

    thor, you mean the clinton that expanded the CRA into an economic time bomb? Yeah, his administration was just full of biz whiz kidz.

  99. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 7:35 pm #

    Let me get this straight, Biden is the one supporting the Change ticket?

  100. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:35 pm #

    Joey Biden declared that global warming is, without question, man-made.

  101. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:35 pm #

    Show of hands? Who’s got initiative?

  102. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!!??

  103. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    Did I mention Clean Coal?
    I meant….

  104. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    And I stand by my assertion: Ifill is collaborating to rewrite Joe Biden’s history in opposition to ALL coal.

  105. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    Palin is doing alright.

  106. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    Biden just doubled down on his clean coal lies. I smell youtube in the morning.

  107. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    I’ve got an idea, says Joe! Let’s kill our economy! Yeah, that’s the ticket.

  108. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    Sarah is inside Joey’s loop

  109. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:36 pm #

    Same-sex benefits…

  110. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    Almost like she drilled and then had a mission prep….

  111. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    Biden worships at the Church of AGW… he just said the ONLY CAUSE of Climate Change is MAN!!!

    Damned SUVs, fucking up Mars, Jupiter, and the Earth’s climate multiple times over thousands of years.

  112. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    Biden just went to “same sex marriage”

  113. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    SSM Constitutional??

  114. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    Obama/Biden are going to rule on the Constitution themselves? Well that should streamline things a bit.

  115. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:37 pm #

    Holy crap. Ifill is leaving issues and going for Lefty talking points. She must think that Biden is needing some help.

  116. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:38 pm #

    I love Joey! He’s TED BAXTER

  117. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:38 pm #

    Whoa, coal to bundle of sticks, that’s a helluva jumpshift

  118. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:39 pm #

    Wow. Joe, how’s the SSM question look like as Palin sails it over the fence?

    You can’t fake “real”, and it’s killing Biden.

  119. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:39 pm #

    Biden just agreed with Sarah on SSM!!! HAHAHAH!

  120. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 7:39 pm #

    Small voice: was watching. I can’t take it no mo’. You all are made of sterner stuff.

  121. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:39 pm #

    Joe is waking up at last to the fact that he’s in it and it’s on

  122. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:39 pm #

    Whoa, coal to bundle of sticks, that’s a helluva jumpshift

    Bundle of sticks? Fasces?

  123. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:40 pm #

    Iraq … brings up surge!!

  124. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:40 pm #

    OHO. She’s got biden talkin trash to BarryO!

  125. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:40 pm #

    Bundle of cigs? I think bundle of sticks came first.

  126. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:41 pm #

    Biden’s on the 16 month timetable

  127. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:41 pm #

    They’re negotiating because of the surge, you ass!

  128. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    Biden is quoting Obama

  129. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    Bwahahahahahaha, BO plan “Run Away!”

  130. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    Mccain was against the timeline because he didn’t want congress making military strategy decisions. Say it Palin. Pweeze?

  131. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    Surge according to Palin. Good stuff.

    Barak’s “plan”? You put a NUMBER ahead of any requirement for draw downs, you have told the enemy how long to hang out by the pool in Tehran.

    Dems. Zero credibility in a fight that can’t be won by friendly judges. Fuckers.

  132. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    which means he’s quoting lies

  133. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:42 pm #

    FERRIS WHEEL! SAY IT! please.

  134. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:43 pm #

    White flag of Surrender! YES

  135. Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/2 @ 7:43 pm #

    “you guys hosed the surge”

    I love that line.

  136. Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/2 @ 7:43 pm #

    When is she going to tell Biden to “take off eh?”

  137. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:43 pm #

    Sarah using Biden’s quotes against him!!

  138. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:43 pm #

    She just called out the plan as straight up surrender?
    Oh hell yes – keep on keep’n on.
    BO not ready to be CIC

  139. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:44 pm #

    Oh, she’s quoting Biden’s anti-Obama talk all over the place. Man.

  140. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:44 pm #

    Biden “We will END this war”.

    Sarah – “We WILL WIN THIS WAR”. Arrrgh.. she’s come close, calling them “white flag wavers”.

    Calling him on his past rhetoric. Calling him on supporting Obama now, in light of Obama voting to cut off funding. Wow.

  141. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:44 pm #

    Should not have gone to Biden’s son. Bad form.

  142. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:44 pm #

    Biden is almost whining

  143. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:45 pm #

    Hey Joey, how does being under fire here in the debate compare to your helicopter ride?

  144. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:45 pm #

    Biden <3’s MCcain? SSM?

  145. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:45 pm #

    Not almost anymore, he’s rattled.

  146. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:45 pm #

    You want to lose this war? You have a candidate, America.

    Stay in to win… well, there’s a candidate there, too.

  147. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:45 pm #

    Iran and Paw-KEE-stawn (Gwen’s pronouciation)

  148. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 7:46 pm #

    How misleading to suggest that Paks would attack Israel?

  149. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:47 pm #

    Nation building, Biden? Nation building?

  150. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:47 pm #

    Joe knows facts just not what to do with them

  151. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:47 pm #

    No, Al-Q is in many countries, including Somalia, where that ship is with the yellow cake or whatever

  152. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:47 pm #

    Well, Biden is sure that Iran doesn’t have a nuke, and can’t deploy one.

    And Iraq is not a part of the war on terror. All those al Q guys who died in Anbar must have got on the wrong bus.

    Fucking Democrats. I may have to take a break. My shit snorkle is only six feet long, and the surge valve leaks.

  153. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:48 pm #

    Sarah mentions Israel and Biden didn’t.

  154. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:48 pm #

    Unfortunately, Iran’s probably already got nukes. Shitty ones, like the yugo’s of nukes; but nukes nonetheless.

  155. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:48 pm #

    Palin is doing just fine

  156. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:48 pm #

    Obama’s “without preconditions” mentioned by Sarah and the picture of Biden looks like he’s sucking lemons…

  157. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:49 pm #

    Sarah just talked with Kissinger!!

  158. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:49 pm #

    She is far more effective delivering straight up information than Joe can ever be

  159. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:49 pm #

    Obama’s “without preconditions” mentioned by Sarah and the picture of Biden looks like he’s sucking lemons…
    that’s the botox

  160. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:50 pm #

    That diplomacy question form Ifill was just horrible, I suspect she did an on the fly re-write of somehting much more biased.

  161. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:50 pm #

    Joe, you were on the stage when he said he would!

  162. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:50 pm #

    Biden lies about Obama’s preconditions!! BWHAHAHAHAH!!!

  163. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:50 pm #

    Talk, talk, talk.
    Senator….

  164. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:51 pm #

    Biden’s getting mad. LOL

  165. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:51 pm #

    Looks like Joe’s getting a little hot under the collar.

  166. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:51 pm #

    Should not have gone to Biden’s son. Bad form.

    Why? Biden’s son is an adult, and on the take.

  167. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 7:51 pm #

    I think old Joe’s feet is fixing to give out, he sure does want to sit down something awful.

  168. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 7:51 pm #

    How can he lie about Obama saying he would meet without preconditions when it was live on TV in a debate? Now that is some audacity.

  169. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    Better Half thinks that Biden looks part Asian. Face-lift, perhaps?

  170. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    Called Amedinejad insane. Calling Obama out on his “no preconditions diplomacy” she sounds a lot more in charge than Biden.

    Ifill is confused. Loopy question invoking Kissinger and Palin… oooh hanging curve SMACK… Palin quotes Kissinger in correction to how Ifill characterized. Extra bases.

    And Biden is … oh my goodness. Quoting sec states and saying Ahmadenijad isn’t in charge…

    He brings up that Bush sent a diplomat to Iran after five years… And, Joe? What the fuck, dude? Where’s the ducks and bunnies from that meet? He’s tossing crap up for soundbites tomorrow.

    Media can use them.

  171. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    LOL and Palin looks cool as a cucumber. That’s too funny.

  172. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    back to Palin about Israel

  173. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    Is Joe getting beat up by a girl? Barack is gonna be angry.

  174. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    Biden’s getting mad. LOL

    it’s so you know he cares more.

  175. Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    What is this shit with Spain they keep bringing up? Are we at war with Spain? When I hear Joe talk I also hear STFU.

  176. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 7:52 pm #

    I mean I saw, with my own two eyes, Obama say he would meet with DinnerJacket without pre-conditions. I saw this. I am not crazy.

  177. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:53 pm #

    So far Palin seems to be holding her own, Biden’s geting animated. If nothing else changes it’s a win for Palin – the ‘inexperienced’ nobody goes toe to toe with a 30+ year Senator and looks strong – that’s gonna kill Joe.

  178. Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/2 @ 7:53 pm #

    Barack has passion for Israel? When did this happen?

  179. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 7:53 pm #

    I’m bigger Jew than you” – Joey

  180. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 7:53 pm #

    I got home about 20 minutes age, and Sarah is kicking ass and taking names.

    Biden is pitiful.

  181. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:53 pm #

    We kicked hez out of Lebanon? Was I away for a decade?

  182. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    How is it the smartest guy in the room can’t seem to get his shit straight?

  183. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    This administration….you are running against McCain asshole not Bush.

  184. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    We will change Iran’s policy with roses. lots of roses. And maybe some fruit baskets.

  185. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    Mr. PInk – Joe Biden was on stage with Baracky when he said that.

  186. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    >>>Why? Biden’s son is an adult, and on the take.

    Understand that, but 1] too personal w/regard to Iraq, and 2] opens the door to Palin’s kids

  187. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    Kicked Hizbollah out of the Leb? when?

  188. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:54 pm #

    heavy sigh from Joe!

  189. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    Oooh, Hezbullah, look out if BO is elected.
    Obiden will have strong negotiations.

  190. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    She just kicked Biden in the teeth.

  191. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    JD

    Its been mentioned upthread that he had botox on his forehead..and it looks like it because each time he tries to raise eyebrows the middle of his forehead never moves, just wrinkles up on the sides… almost Klingon like

  192. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    My wife is yelling at Biden.

    “Go ask a Marine!” she says.

    Astonishing.

  193. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    I think this is where Biden passes out, then tomorrow claims he’s suffering from ‘really badass migraines’ and Obama picks up Hillary.

  194. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    Hey, McCain camp: “A war is a series of catastrophes resulting in victory”. Write that down.

    I wish the governor hadn’t been programmed to pop out that bucket of talking points right there.

    And yes, it is a loser for Biden to run against Bush. He’s not the candidate.

  195. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    “looking backwards?” Nice call by Coach Gwenn.

  196. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    Biden’s lo-light reel is gonna be too long for a single TV ad…

  197. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    Wife just neailed “Past is prolog.”
    Bushbushbushbush…

  198. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    Barack has passion for Israel? When did this happen?

    Since he joined TUCC. Hey — he didn’t specify the nature of the passion, right?

  199. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:56 pm #

    Biden getting very rattled

  200. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:57 pm #

    Understand that, but 1] too personal w/regard to Iraq

    eh, Ifill mentioned both their children in the question.

  201. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:57 pm #

    Nuclear trigger question is moot. Palin should not answer. Policy: retaliation in kind, in overwhelming force. fin.

  202. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:57 pm #

    Not sure about Palin’s Nuke answer

  203. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 7:58 pm #

    air raiding villages! YES!!!

  204. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:58 pm #

    Sarah: “Obama’s statement is reckless”

  205. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 7:58 pm #

    Man, all those Left talking points coming back to bite Joe.

  206. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:58 pm #

    Facts matter!
    I was under fire when that chopper went down

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  208. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 7:58 pm #

    Biden never looks at the camera. Palin’s talking right into it. I keep waiting for her to throw something at me. Kinda scary.

    And hot. -ish.

  209. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 7:59 pm #

    Gonna switch to domestic policy, maybe

  210. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 7:59 pm #

    Biden … “the surge won’t work in Afghanistan”

    then “the general says we need more troops”

    WHAT???

  211. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 7:59 pm #

    The surge won’t work in Afghanistan, we need more troops and government building? WTF?

  212. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 7:59 pm #

    Biden is not covering himself in glory tonight.

  213. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 7:59 pm #

    Who the hell is Joe talking to?
    Whoops, lost his time stamp

  214. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:00 pm #

    Baracky passed legislation that tells terrorists that they cannot have nuclear weapons. Wow. He sure showed them.

  215. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:00 pm #

    He keeps exhaling really loudly. HAHA. Get on the treadmill joe.

  216. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:00 pm #

    I just saw Biden do the weirdest scowl… Sarah is getting under his skin.

  217. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:01 pm #

    Nunn-Lugar gets Obambi’s help! Yay Obambi, spine stiffener!

  218. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:01 pm #

    Another heavy sigh.
    What school does the left learn this in?
    Need to check a course abstract or two

  219. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Petraeus is going to have something to say about Afghan strategy in a few weeks.

  220. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    B Moe

    My husband caught that too… “what the fuck” seems the comment tonight in our livingroom where it regards Slo Joe

  221. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    We are still in Bosnia, assface.

  222. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Bosniaks????

  223. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Joe is telling me what the CG in Afghanistan said… but I’d like to know the name, the location where I can find the text. Not that I’m calling Biden a goddamned liar. Or anything like that.

    Telling me that McCain didn’t vote for a test ban. Good. Telling me what Obama said… too bad he’s never done anything…

    Wow. Palin shoved that “no surge” right back down his throat. Named the general… and Biden agreed.

    We’ve spent more in the last three weeks>……. Joe, how much did congress spend on travel this last three weeks?

    Now Ifill serves up one for Biden – “intervention”. My goodness. Did she rehearse with him?

  224. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    I just saw Biden do the weirdest scowl

    yeah, saw that and chuckled. but also, Palin said “okay” something. WHO IS SHE TALKING TO?!

  225. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Joe is jumping all over the world now.

  226. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Oh, he finally looked at the camera.

  227. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    BOSNIAKS!!!!

    OMG! FEAR TEH BOSNIAKS!!!1111!!!!

  228. Comment by ExDip on 10/2 @ 8:02 pm #

    Did he just say “Bosniacs”?

  229. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:03 pm #

    Joe adopts Hillary’s line, gave the power so he couldn’t use it.

  230. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:03 pm #

    Bosniacs. Priceless. Sound like band groupies.

  231. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    Another heavy sigh.
    What school does the left learn this in?

    The Al Gore School of Charm.

  232. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    Not that I’m calling Biden a goddamned liar. Or anything like that.

    it’s okay. there’s some history there.

  233. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    You voted for… you opposed… OMG I am liking this lady. LOL.

  234. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    More war, says Joe! Kill kill kill!

  235. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    I had bosniacs once. Had to have the house tented and fogged. Good thing though – the termite bond covered it.

  236. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    Oh man, it’s so obvious I’m an outsider….

  237. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:04 pm #

    “Golly, I AM such a DC outsider cause I just don’t get this ‘i was before it before i was agin it’”

    LOVE her!!

  238. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:05 pm #

    I haven’t seen a jab that wicked from a face that sweet since Sugar Ray Leonard. She is hammering him.

  239. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:05 pm #

    Wasn’t the Bosniac Steve Job’s first computer project?

  240. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    now Biden is trying to run against Cheney…

  241. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    If I ever patent an idea, I’m going to name it the bosniac. Doesn’t matter what it is.

  242. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    “Golly, I AM such a DC outsider cause I just don’t get this ‘i was before it before i was agin it’”

    I almost wish I were watching it, to see that line delivered.

  243. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    I’m late to the party here, but is the Obama/Biden ticket promising more war? Have they run that past the base?

  244. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    I want to be a Bosniak pundit

  245. Comment by Rob on 10/2 @ 8:06 pm #

    No, Bosniak was Steve Jobs’ partner when he formed Apple.

  246. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:07 pm #

    Sarah is the first one to say the word “evil”

    GODBOTHERER!!

  247. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:07 pm #

    You know, I am reconsidering my aggravation at Palin’s infrequent but earnest forays away from the questions. She’s hanging some heavy facts out there.

    Joe – there’s no place on the planet we can’t intervene and make it stick. Fuckweasel. Difference is we need to intervene where OUR interests are at stake.

    Jeezus. I see a U.S. mission to deliver refrigeration units to Tierra Del Fuego for penguins suffering from AGW. Lock up the U.S. Atlantic fleet long enough for Venezuela to take Miami… thanks, President Obama….

  248. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    Yes Joe, God forbid there would ever be a Biden administration

  249. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    biden just answered that entire question without looking at the camera. hi joey, we’re out here.

  250. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    the “heartbeat away” and Biden goes into the Obama Pandering mode.

  251. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    Oh, there he is. They had to change angles, wave a stuffed animal over the camera to get his attention, and then go back to the camera.

  252. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    Oh, do reinstate me! Pleasey pleasy please, reinstate me.

  253. Comment by ExDip on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    Bosniacs or Animaniacs? Discuss.

  254. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    Biden does not seem very comfortable.

  255. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    Sarah is the first one to say the word “evil”.

    Yeah, and she was talking about communists. Heads are exploding as we speak.

  256. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    Hmmm, how telling.
    Most important election since 1932

  257. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    What’s old Joey so pissed off about?

  258. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    Joey as President would be alot of laughs.

  259. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    She winked at me!!

  260. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:09 pm #

    Maybe Ifill could fill us in on some of the specific differences between Biden and Obama? Nah, that might sound imparital…

  261. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:10 pm #

    “Hey government, just get out of my way”

    YES

  262. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:10 pm #

    “heartbeat”. Biden doing melodrama. Bears strong resemblance to Barbara Stanwyck there, if you’ve taken enough acid.

    Joe, there’s nobody on the planet that believes a Democrat would have done half what Bush has done in pursuit of OBL. Who’s been dead since 2002, give or take.

    Cry for me, Joe.

    Palin is staking out her turf, in the event of “the event of”. Wow.

    GET THE HELL OFF “The greed of wall street” if you won’t cal the congress on its criminal decades’ worth of interference.

    I’m calling this for Palin so far.

  263. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:10 pm #

    Gov. Palin is doing alright.

  264. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Can I respond?
    When I’m at Home Depot….

  265. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    The guy that lives across the street is a big Obama supporter. He was drunk and yelling in his driveway before the debate even started. 10 to 1 he’s kicking his livingroom furniture around right now. LOL

  266. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Joey spends alot time @ HOME DEPOT!

  267. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Joey Hairplugs is a regular at Home Depot. I totally believe that.

  268. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Hey Joe, a ShLoad of Dems have gotten rich over the last 8 years

  269. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Bosniacs or Animaniacs? Discuss.

    The Animaniacs were the hereditary rulers of the nation of “Anvilania”, which bordered on the nations of Likus and Dunlikus.

  270. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Jeezus. I see a U.S. mission to deliver refrigeration units to Tierra Del Fuego for penguins suffering from AGW. Lock up the U.S. Atlantic fleet long enough for Venezuela to take Miami… thanks, President Obama….

    somewhat OT, but related… Special Report on Fox News has been running reports about the new African Command. today was sea bees building water treatment thingers or plumbing or something.

    SCRANTON!

  271. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Biden still trying his “I’m just a dude from the neighborhood.”

  272. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:11 pm #

    Scranton!

  273. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:12 pm #

    Palin is in the driver seat. “Joe, looking back again at BUSH”….

  274. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:12 pm #

    Go for the gold Sarah – schools need to teach not indoctrinate

  275. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:12 pm #

    Kill the NEA

  276. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:12 pm #

    Sarah just got appreciative chuckles from the office “doggone it, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards”

  277. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    Damn Joe, speaking of school, you’re get an edjumnahkashun

  278. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    “Say it ain’t so Joe, there you go lookin’ backwards again!”

    Down goes Biden!
    Down goes Biden!
    Down goes Biden!

  279. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    There you go again, Joe. Doggone it, let’s look forward.

  280. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    “shout out to the 3rd graders … extra credit for watching this debate”

    LOVE HER

  281. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    Okay, why does the frame on this page keep sliding to the left? GAH

  282. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    she needed to hammer that home.

    My. Kids. Go. To. Public. School.

  283. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:13 pm #

    Anvilania was invaded by Dunlikus, and the Animaniacs fought them off. Primarily by dropping anvils on the ruler of Anvilania, but also by having Perry Coma sing the Anvilania national anthem.

    Oh, and the Animaniacs once drove Saddam Hussein insane.

  284. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:14 pm #

    Sarah gets the out and out laugh

  285. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:14 pm #

    When Joe is pissed, he pulls out the Scranton card.

    Yours is a lame attempt at a joke too. Great line.

  286. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:14 pm #

    Palin got into politics over her local PTA originally. I understand why Ifill is staying away.

    “lame attempt at a joke you/me.” Sweeeeet. She’d be cute in a swimsuit. Or working over a mugger with his own tire iron.

    *twinkly smile*

  287. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:15 pm #

    Yeah, Joe needs to get back to eduation…

    That’d go well.

  288. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:15 pm #

    Kiss my ring, Joe, said Barack.

  289. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:16 pm #

    Sarah’s dad is a teacher, Joe’s family was strictly white collar no matter how much he yanks that Scranton card

  290. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:16 pm #

    Hmmm, the Cheny VP precedent

  291. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:16 pm #

    I was listening to this on the radio and now i’m watching it and I’ve gotta say she comes off a lot better on TV. The camera absolutely loves her, and she can throw a barb with a 10,000 watt smile.

    Isn’t that the sort of thing that nishi was so fond of telling us wins elections these days?

  292. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:16 pm #

    That was a smooth dodge to the Cheney question – which was total bullshit anyway.

  293. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    Is he picking his teeth?

  294. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    Why is Biden running against Bush and Cheney?

  295. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    Evile Cheny

  296. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    Joey really is a greasey fuck, ain’t he?

  297. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    Nice thing to bring Cheney in there you biased bitch. I am sure that will be in your fuckin book too.

  298. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    “Cheney is the most dangerous VP in history”

    what?

  299. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:17 pm #

    ” I have a history of getting things done in the U.S. Senate”.

    You know what, I’d bet there are at least five CEO’s out there that might be convinced to go in front of cameras to explain what happened to our credit market. And who made it inevitable.

    Ifill poses the split question to Palin – VP’s office executive AND or OR or BOTH legislative… think it was intended to be a killer, but Palin answered it well.

    Biden fears Cheney. Hmmm. Loser. Joe, you didn’t disagree with Cheney’s position.

  300. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    Joe breaks out the AntiCheney tinfoil, LMFAO!

  301. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    UNITARY EXECUTIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  302. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    Just hate, no biggie.

  303. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    So Joe, you embrace a lame VP slot.
    Seems appropriate.
    For you.

  304. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    ok I finished my work and now I am listening but I didn’t get dressed up at all. Gwen, who writes books about Baracky but doesn’t tell the debate commission about her vested interest in a Baracky victory, is asking whether Governor Palin will be secretive when she’s VP. Fuck her.

  305. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    Is he picking his teeth?

    I doubt they picked him.

  306. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:18 pm #

    Conventional wisdom question. I’m listening on radio now; is Ifill looking as frustrated as she sounds, when she looks at Palin?

  307. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    “Comment by ExDip on 10/2 @ 8:08 pm #

    Bosniacs or Animaniacs? Discuss.”

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”
    “Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career … ooh, it’s all too much for me.”

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”
    “Uh … yeah, Brain, but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?”

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”
    “Uh, I think so Brain, but I can’t memorize a whole opera in Yiddish.”

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”
    “Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a duck and a hose at this
    hour?”

    “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”
    “I think so Brain, but if they called them Sad Meals kids wouldn’t buy
    them.”

  308. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    Pardon me while impose my narrative, says Gweeen.

  309. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    That question was served up on a silver platter for the Sunday media shows. Palin=Cheney Palin=Cheney. WTF this shit is pissing me off.

  310. Comment by Walsingham on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    “What is your Achilles heel?”

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    Palin: “Taking people like you seriously, maybe?”

  311. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    on the ruler of AnvilaniaDunlikus

    Duh.

    Oh, and one time they ran into Pablo Picasso, and Wakko noticed that Picasso had a monogrammed smock: “You’ve got ‘PP’ on your smock!” “DEESGUSTING!”

    I LOL’d.

  312. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    “America is a nation of exceptional-ism”

  313. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    Yup, Palin will do just fine picking up the Evile veep mantel

  314. Comment by colinmacdougall on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    On the VP, I’ll bet a lot of women noticed that Biden kept saying “he”

  315. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:19 pm #

    I wonder if Michelle is slapping the hell out of Barracky right now for picking this stiff.

  316. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Holy crap, she broke out that bit at just the right time.

  317. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Oh, we just got the self-deprecating Joey Biden. Smooth!

  318. Comment by mgl on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    My excessive passion!

  319. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Biden “my achilles heel is my excessive passion”

    oh GAG

  320. Comment by Dewclaw on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Ahhhh… did snarkass thor run away when his boy started getting his ass handed to him by a girl?

    ROFL!!!

  321. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Governor Palin makes being vice president a fun and exciting idea. Joey Hairplugs mostly seems to look forward to people listening to him talk for real.

  322. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Joe has a kitchen table too.
    And a wrist band.

  323. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:20 pm #

    Biden’s tired. Palin is just getting warmed out.

    She’s showed a bit of steel, but in a very measured delivery.

    Confirm Joe tired. He’s almost wistful in characterizing his senatorial CV. Talking points talking points…

  324. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    The “I’m too passionate” failing. Baracky had a pretty good crack on that at the expense of Silky and Hillary, IIRC.

  325. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Big paycheck and a nice house?

    Biden just imploded.

  326. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Are you going to cry now Joe?

  327. Comment by Walsingham on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    “My Achilles heel is my excessive passion…”

    Ifell: “No, that’s Senator Kennedy’s…what’s yours?”

  328. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Oh, look! Joey’s crying!

  329. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    CRYING????

  330. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    “Cheney is the most dangerous VP in history”

    what?

    he did shoot a guy in the face.

  331. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Palin is using the biased framing of the question(wisdom says your weakness is experience) to her advantage. It gave her an excuse to outline her experience.

  332. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    I shed a retrospective tear for Joe. Retrospectively.

  333. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Biden just surrendered. Frowny face joey. Frowny face.

  334. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:21 pm #

    Biden is repeating himself and “me,too”ing

  335. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:22 pm #

    “maverick” does nothing for me… but maybe the media is regretting setting up that brand now. Ya think?

  336. Comment by Dewclaw on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    THERE’S NO CRYING IN THE SENATE!!!

    …OR BASEBALL!!!

  337. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Can Palin promise to never say Maverick again please?

  338. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    I hate the maverick thing. It reminds me of that shitty Mel Gibson film about card players in the old west. Gah. Stop.

  339. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Why am I seeing the aneurysm scene from Dave with Joe?

  340. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Oh, look! Joey’s crying!

    Oh, please tell me that’s for real.

  341. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Palin has been holding back – she knows it’s time to seal the deal.

  342. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Stand up Chuck!

  343. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Biden is losing it! Get him Sarah, he is on the ropes!

  344. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    Biden is now trying again to tie McCain and Bush and trashing his Maverick

    he’s going negative out of desperation

  345. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:23 pm #

    He was a maverick on the surge. I seem to recall…

  346. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:24 pm #

    Go JOE!!! he’s telling all the votes that McCain voted THAT WON’T PISS OFF REPUBLICAN base folks…lol…lol.

  347. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:24 pm #

    Wife just asked if Joe said “How are we going to heat the car?”

  348. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:24 pm #

    Gwen steps in, fuck that bitch! Biden starts to get hot and she fucking calls the match!

  349. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:24 pm #

    Can Palin promise to never say Maverick again please?

    That would be nice. I get it already.

  350. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    How ARE we going to heat the car? Shit. I hadn’t given it any thought.

  351. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    Stand up Chuck!

    did you hear Rush’s suggestion for Palin related to that? She should say, “Congrats on the book Ms. Ifill, and I’m sorry to hear about your ankle and I won’t ask you to stand up.” or something like that.

  352. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    Judge Who?

  353. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    Biden is trashing BORK???

  354. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    James Garner is better looking than John McCain though.

    Damn, I’m glad the constitution put that thinger in there about paying my heating bills this winter. It gets f-ing cold down here in Florida.

  355. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:25 pm #

    Palin needs to remind people that She and McCain are not lawyers, unlike both their opponents.

  356. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:26 pm #

    He really does cling to the past like a milkbone.

  357. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:26 pm #

    Joe will have to stand up for Chuck since he won’t be able to sit down for a while after this spanking

  358. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:26 pm #

    That is a most excellent point, ThomasD.

  359. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Joey Plugs takes credit for destroying commity in judicial nomination hearings, finally. Way to go Joe.

  360. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Single issue you had to change to become VP.

    Joe Biden: Holy Moly. Reaffirming that ideology is the litmus test. I can vote for McCain with peace in my heart. Does this mean their internals show that the fringe kook base STILL isn’t on board??? Otherwise, that hurts more than helps. Among anyone right of say Ted Kennedy.

    Palin: Meh. Let some budgets go by because it was necessary.

  361. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Haha. Ifill just called them”number two”.

  362. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Mike Who?

  363. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Biden is trashing BORK???

    Oh, that’s just pathetic. I mean, her music isn’t to everyone’s taste, but I thought “Army of Me” rocked.

    What? Oh…. never mind.

  364. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    Sarah, you’re going to mention his 3rd most liberal Senator status, right?

  365. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    Joey Hairplugs takes the fun a lot out of fundamental I think.

  366. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    I have never questioned anothers motives…

    EXCEPT FOR THAT EVIL FUCKING CHENEY!!!!!!

  367. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    This is turning out much better than I expected.

  368. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    I’m sorry, but nothing Bjork has ever done has ‘rocked.’

  369. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    Biden is stuck on Bjork?

  370. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:28 pm #

    She’s a smiling little chipmunk with underwire-enhanced tittays! Yeah! Airheads for Sarah!

    Lower taxes creates jobs! Duuuuuuuh, and that’s why we’ve created so many the last eight years, duuuuuuh.

    Smile!

  371. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    “you do what I did as a governor”

    Sarah reminding everyone that she has more executive experience than Biden or Barry

  372. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    EXCEPT FOR THAT EVIL FUCKING CHENEY!!!!!!

    *cackling*

  373. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    BECAUSE OF THE TOXIC HAIRPLUGS!!!!

  374. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    And we draw to a close.
    Sarah up 5, more?

  375. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    Biden’s sounding canned. flat.

    Palin: Walk the walk. Dem/Rep/Independent – for the greater good.

    Wow. She’s a Republican. Imagine that.

    Issues election. Can’t wait to see how media covers this.

  376. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    talking to the people again.

  377. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:29 pm #

    I’m sorry, but nothing Bjork has ever done has ‘rocked.’

    OK, so maybe it was just the intro. I can only say I was living in Detroit at the time.

  378. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:30 pm #

    Sarah just did a Reagan “I want to speak directly to the American people without the MSM filter”

  379. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:30 pm #

    Okay, this thing is sliding so far to the left I’m going to lose the ability to read comments soon. poo

  380. Comment by Dewclaw on 10/2 @ 8:30 pm #

    chirp all you want, thor…

    Your boy is getting owned by historical proportions.

  381. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:30 pm #

    I’m tittayed Joey-six-pack who knows where the hurts are! Band-aides for boo-boo-s!

  382. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:30 pm #

    MSM in the morning: There was a debate last night? Sorry, we must have missed it.

  383. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:31 pm #

    i love earth intruders and also big time sensuality but that movie soundtrack I thought was creepy from that I hate America movie where she gets executed for something. Also, Sugarcubes.

  384. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:31 pm #

    Sarah finishes on a positive, uplifting message… Biden is closing with a negative…

  385. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:31 pm #

    Poor thor! That nasty little hobbit governor has run off with his his Preceious O.

  386. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:31 pm #

    That was a deep hole down at the WTC wasn’t it?

  387. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Joey turns to “the neighborhood” and Scranton when he gets pissed.

  388. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Issues election. Can’t wait to see how media covers this.

    Oh, that’s easy: “Palin showed a shallow command of the issues, opting instead for sound bites and petty attacks. Biden, in contrast, showed the calm, cool command of facts that come from nearly four decades in the Senate.”

    Or are you expecting them to be honest?

  389. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    maybe he has some tape on his forehead… holding his eyebrows up like that…. there’s something dark on the sides of his head… I think the makeup is melting…

  390. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    shank

    Firefox

  391. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    thor, your boy Joe was just got the strap-on.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!

  392. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Biden is a big grump and he’s throwing his Daddy what loved him in Baracky’s face.

  393. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Ah heck, tell us a beating up story from the playground Joey

  394. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Joey: I lived in Scranton

  395. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:32 pm #

    Biden “Champ get up” oh gag

  396. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    Never seen such a perfect example of a political party machine tool – thank you Joe.

  397. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    Weak close for the hairplugs.

  398. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    Palin – Freedom takes work. And worth fighting for.

    Yah, Palin on points. Better than five I am thinking.

    Biden – credibility. Fuck you, Joe. “fundamental change”. Yes, Marxism would be a shift, agreed. talking points, talking points, dignity respect, cue “once upon a time in America music”.

    No fucking way appeal to my respect for individual freedom and then invoke Barak Obama, Senator.

    Palin on points, more on style.

  399. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    Ha, highschool prom is just like President, right!

    Punkage complete! Alaskan Airhead defined! The Republican stupidity is being set out on curb!

    Finally.

  400. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    WHY ARE THEY LEAVING HER MIKE ON?

  401. Comment by shank on 10/2 @ 8:34 pm #

    It’s been real people. See you next time. I think I might bump it up to two tabs for the next one too. My trip was starting to go a little harsh halfway through. I was playing billiards on the flat marble expanse of bidens forehead. The pockets were indeed tight.

  402. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:34 pm #

    NPR says Sarah was “certainly colloquial” and that Biden explained very complex foreign policy issues.

  403. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:34 pm #

    Sarah owned this one

  404. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:35 pm #

    WHY ARE THEY LEAVING HER MIKE ON?

    Because they hate her.

    Duh.

    From the sounds of it, I bet they wished they’d turned Biden’s mic off halfway through.

  405. Comment by Blitz on 10/2 @ 8:35 pm #

    Palin won that. But the Thors in this world? Go back to bullying and child raping…..OOPS!!! I was asked not to say that, my mistake

  406. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:35 pm #

    Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    You poor pitiful biden.

  407. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:35 pm #

    As outright liars go Plugs is pretty good at it.

  408. Comment by Rob Crawford on 10/2 @ 8:37 pm #

    NPR says Sarah was “certainly colloquial” and that Biden explained very complex foreign policy issues.

    Is “colloquial” NPR code-speak for “sounded like a hick”? Those people have serious snobbery issues.

  409. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:37 pm #

    He was soo bad. They could easily put out some youtube’s calling him on his lies, but I’m not sure it’s even necessary at this point.

  410. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:38 pm #

    I like they left her mic on, that was a very sincere “You’re Good!” from Biden, might have helped score some points.

  411. Comment by Dewclaw on 10/2 @ 8:38 pm #

    Whatever lets you sleep at night, thor…

    What’s funny is the more you slam on Palin, the worse it makes Biden look.

    Funny as hell his getting his ass handed to him by such twit, heh?

    Stop by again, thur, when you need to reinforce what a total tool you are.

  412. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:39 pm #

    but that movie soundtrack I thought was creepy from that I hate America movie where she gets executed for something

    have you seen Dancer in the Dark? I lurved it. depressing as hell, but it really held my attention and touched me. It’s one of those I think about occasionally.

  413. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:39 pm #

    If NPR thinks anything even remotely complex was discussed tonight snobbery is not their problem.

  414. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/2 @ 8:40 pm #

    I am still sitting in my computer chair dumfounded. I mean, a couple months ago I saw on my TV Obama say “Yes I will meet with Ackmedinijad without preconditions”. Now today I hear he did not say that. Am I crazy????????????????????????? WTF is going on. Is this out and out lie going to be on any TV show, or newspaper? What is wrong with this fuckin picture.

  415. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:40 pm #

    Those people have serious snobbery issues.

    Heh, a while back i’m in Kentucky, listening to a report on NPR about on the job injuries on farms, and how they often involve shildren of the farm owner. They are interviewing the little daughter of a farmer, she’s helping with chores in the barn. The reporter asks ’so do your animals have names?’ The girl responds as innocent as fresh snow ‘yeah, cows.’

  416. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:41 pm #

    Big thank you for Troll Hammer. PBUY and wootz!

  417. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:41 pm #

    Hahaha! We wuv our wittle airwead! Will have a big parade and if there’s enough balloons, everything will be pwerfect in Wasilla! Shout out to my bro!

    Pounded. Sarah got pounded. The cartoon that is Sister Palin was in full bloom. Winky, winky!

  418. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:41 pm #

    “Who needs a fresh ale…getcha sump’in there Joe” he asked colloquially?

  419. Comment by Rusty on 10/2 @ 8:42 pm #

    Want some cheese with whine, thor. Loser. Even if Obama wins, you’ll still be a pathetic loser.

  420. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:42 pm #

    She really held back on Dem complicity in the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac debacle and present crisis. Are they holding fire because of the bailout?

  421. Comment by Patrick on 10/2 @ 8:42 pm #

    Thor has gotten into mamma’s cough syrup again. Bad Thor. Bad bad Thor. Back to your room and put the happy music back on.

  422. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:43 pm #

    ThomasD, that made me laugh

  423. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:43 pm #

    NPR – that Mara cooze – Mara thinks the election is all about George Bush and Sarah is wrong to criticize Biden for looking backwards. That’s pretty much all she said in all her blah blah blah. Sarah must have done really well. But it sounds like they’re headed to a consensus that Palin was “well-rehearsed.” They’re so creepy.

    Yes. Dancer in the Dark. Awful music and the movie was all about making America appear cruel and evil. Didn’t like. It was neat how they did it though. I liked the music when I saw the film and got the soundtrack and hated it.

  424. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 8:43 pm #

    SarahW -

    I think yes on holding back. Mostly b/c it may scotch any deal forthcoming, like Pelosi’s speech did.

  425. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 8:44 pm #

    Haven’t read the comments, but taking a guess:

    Nishi: Palin is short; THEOCRAT CREATIONISM IQ CUDLIPS

    Thor: hick titties ditz hick titties Rethuglican lies O!

    (and hick titties. Vagina)

    TELL ME WHAT I WON, JOHNNY!

  426. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/2 @ 8:44 pm #

    Hmm, she gets the alchy vote at AB.

  427. Comment by nikkolai on 10/2 @ 8:44 pm #

    I bet Sarah could really whip thor’s pasty ass. I don’t care if he says he is 6′4″ 250 pounds–she could literally whip his ass.

  428. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:44 pm #

    I’m a case of nerves. I kept switching the debate off. Then going back. Palin got better. Biden seemed to crumple. He seemed on the verge of tears about a third of the time.

  429. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    Which Sarah, Oh, the good one.

  430. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    Too complicated an exposition SarahW. Gotta keep it simple for the occasional tuners in.

  431. Comment by Dewclaw on 10/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    The only thing that got pounded tonight, thur, was your dick.

    You shouldn’t beat that sucker like it owes you money while blogging…

    Not a good mix.

  432. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    AirheadHammer 2.0 is awesome! It’s as if I’m the only one here! Dauuuuuey!

    I don’t blame the PW trollhammer lamers, getting faced is never fun.

  433. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    Reaction tomorrow – Nothing to see here, move along.

  434. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:46 pm #

    Matt Funfetti or whatever from the Weekly Standard is supposed to be the analyst from the right and he’s bagging the shit out of Palin. Who is this fetid manpussy? He says Biden won and Palin talked too much about Reagan. He has issues. NPR does this on purpose. Meanwhile EJ Dionne is just building on Funfetti’s critique.

  435. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:47 pm #

    SarahW, you should have seen me alone in my car laughing hysterically hurtling down the Mountain Parkway (although there are posted speed limits in KY, it would appear they are merely vague suggestions.)

  436. Comment by urthshu on 10/2 @ 8:47 pm #

    Gotta go to sleeeep
    /night

  437. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 8:48 pm #

    For those interested, the McCain camp claims Biden lied 14 times:

    JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT

    1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

    2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

    3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

    4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

    5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

    6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

    7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

    8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.

    9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

    10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

    11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

    12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

    13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

    14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

    Have at it.

  438. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:49 pm #

    ok this is way too pravda, you Americans and your NPR. I will have to turn this off and click on things on the Internet.

  439. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:49 pm #

    “Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:41 pm #

    Hahaha! We wuv our wittle airwead!”

    No, fur, like I said, Joe got pounded with a strapon.

    Does that thought give you a woody?

  440. Comment by B Moe on 10/2 @ 8:49 pm #

    The focus group dude on Fox says Palin hit it out of the park- is predicting a major shake-up in the polls.

  441. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:50 pm #

    oh, on Continetti, those are the marks of a conservative’s bona fides, hf. If you wanna talk on the NPR or get a gig like D. Brooks, you gotta be willing to put your boot heel on your father’s neck.

  442. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:50 pm #

    and the movie was all about making America appear cruel and evil

    I guess I missed that bit. or it was tolerable. oh well.

  443. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:51 pm #


    Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 8:44 pm #

    Haven’t read the comments, but taking a guess:

    Nishi: Palin is short; THEOCRAT CREATIONISM IQ CUDLIPS

    Thor: hick titties ditz hick titties Rethuglican lies O!

    (and hick titties. Vagina)

    TELL ME WHAT I WON, JOHNNY!

    I did not mention her Sister Sarah’s itchy vagina, not until now that is.

    You, Sir, should be emailing me one of those teddybear Hallmark e-cards. Hurt! I’m hurting here!

  444. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:51 pm #

    Ale, anyone?

  445. Comment by Bod on 10/2 @ 8:51 pm #

    I was so looking forward to seeing the inside of a discarded can of whoop-ass. I know. I set my expectations way too high.

    I found the populist ‘Crack Down on those Evil Wall Street Types’ a little too common, especially since it was coming from Palin, and it’s utter bullshit.

  446. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:51 pm #

    There’s something to be said about “being Reagan” as opposed to harkening back to him. But I’ll take the Reagan I can get.

  447. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 8:52 pm #

    Methinks Joey is not really happy right now …

  448. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:52 pm #

    Incontinetti … he’s used the word fascinating like eleven times. Matt is too easily fascinated I think.

  449. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 8:52 pm #

    429 SarahW

    I don’t know exactly when it happened, but fairly early on Slo Joe awoke to the fact that the godbotherer from Wasilly was not living down to his expectations.

    My husband, fairly non-political, pointed out how rattled and upset Biden was getting.

  450. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:53 pm #

    SarahW:

    She really held back on Dem complicity in the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac debacle and present crisis. Are they holding fire because of the bailout?

    I am at a loss why McCain doesn’t stake the fight out with the war on one side and Congress on the other. Truly.

    Wall Street adapted to congressional corruption and survived longer than even they thought they would. The facts are there, the history is there, the NAMES are there.

    I’m worried; I am intimately familiar with the concept that you can’t solve any problem that you won’t admit you have. But heartened for the same reason, too.

    A month is a long time. And Barak truly is a non entity. Media will end up taking him out themselves if there is any justice in this crazy world.

    I hope the house kills the bail out.

  451. Comment by Pablo on 10/2 @ 8:53 pm #

    I’m gonna watch this from the top now. I’ll be in my bunk.

  452. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:53 pm #

    Speaking of itchy, the human Candidiasis bugged out early tonight, which was nice of her.

  453. Comment by Patrick on 10/2 @ 8:53 pm #

    Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 8:48 pm #

    For those interested, the McCain camp claims Biden lied 14 times:

    JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT

     And that’s exactly my problem with how Sarah is performing.  She absolutely has to know at least a dozen of those things right off the top of her head, because I’m as dumb as a bag of hammers, and I know them.  So why not just let her beat the crap out of Joe on live TV?  Why answer the lies in a press release that nobody on ?BC will every read?

     Let. Sarah. Be. Sarah.

  454. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 8:53 pm #

    Is Mr. Reynolds’ site down?

  455. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:54 pm #

    That’s a big list o’ lies.

  456. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:54 pm #

    ” Hurt! I’m hurting here!”

    It’s Sarah’s strapon. fur.

    Told ya!

  457. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:55 pm #

    Og, and the MSM is calling it for Joe.

    What a fucking joke.

  458. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 8:55 pm #

    PJM sites seem to have gone wonky lately.

  459. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:56 pm #

    Insty won’t load for me.

  460. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:56 pm #


    Comment by N. O’Brain on 10/2 @ 8:54 pm #

    ” Hurt! I’m hurting here!”

    It’s Sarah’s strapon. fur.

    Told ya!

    You, O’Brain, are not worthy of licking Sarah Palin’s strap-on! Much less the real thing!

  461. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:56 pm #

    TmjUtah - I hope the house kills the bail out

    – At this point, so do I.

  462. Comment by TmjUtah on 10/2 @ 8:57 pm #

    Wow. Poll on Drudge, Palin 74/Biden 24.

    Over a hundred thousand respondents. Not scientific… but beats a 1000 sample, I think, as far as +/- goes, doesn’t it?

  463. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 8:57 pm #

    Oh, wait. Spoke too soon.

  464. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 8:58 pm #

    All the insiders will call it for Joe. Including the Beltway bunch on the right, who have met the man, know stuff about his family, have shared a joke with him. Sarah is just so not right for the club.

  465. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:58 pm #

    No, I think Biden said Prolog

  466. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 8:58 pm #

    Sarah is an expert on prologues. Alaska has a lot of timber.

  467. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 8:59 pm #

    So why not just let her beat the crap out of Joe on live TV?

    meh, What would she say? and Joe would just say, “No, that’s not what I said/did” like with the “Obama didn’t say he’d meet with Ajad” we’ll have to wait and roll the tape.

  468. Comment by Diana on 10/2 @ 8:59 pm #

    I’d hire her.

  469. Comment by SarahW on 10/2 @ 8:59 pm #

    Darleen – Really. I don’t always trust my perceptions, so I’m glad to hear your husband’s.

  470. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 8:59 pm #

    “You, O’Brain, are not worthy of licking Sarah Palin’s strap-on! Much less the real thing!”

    Like I said, a poor, pitiful, repitative biden.

    Loooooo

    Serrrrrr.

  471. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 8:59 pm #

    No, Sarah does not fit in the club.
    She fits in a skirt.

  472. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 9:00 pm #

    Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 8:58 pm #

    Do you speak English?

  473. Comment by Jenny on 10/2 @ 9:00 pm #

    She totally owned him. Look, the expectations for her were so low, and Biden so thoroughly the presumptive victor – honestly, I was worried. And she owned his ass. Biden heaved one heavy sigh, then remembered Al Gore, and sucked it up. He rambled, he dodged -she had him on the ropes defending O and his own record about half the time. And all the while, she just grinned and beamed and “God bless ya’d”. Loved it.

  474. Comment by Brian on 10/2 @ 9:00 pm #

    After seeing her performance tonight, I’m very prolog

  475. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 9:02 pm #

    cleo is wimpering, s/he’s channeling Joe’s forehead

  476. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 9:02 pm #

    Jesus. I think Pajamas Media paid Steve Green to “drunkblog” the debate.

    I need out of this line of work.

  477. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 9:02 pm #

    “Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 8:57 pm #

    Quote of the night ‘The Past is Prologue’ Biden.”

    Plagerising yet another writer, of course.

    BT, seman, do you speak English?

    Just wondering.

  478. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 9:02 pm #

    mom was listening on the radio… wasn’t impressed with Palin. said she didn’t seem to answer most of the questions, just veered off into whatever she wanted to talk about.

    which, yeah, but some of the questions were stupid.

  479. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:03 pm #

    Global Warming Model Driven Panic? Cause that’s crap for science you got there, otherwise.

  480. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:04 pm #

    Keith Olbermann says Sister Palin lied 168-and-1-half times.

    Take that, el Jeffe!

    Personally I wasn’t listening, muted the volume, instead I focused on her panty lines. Choices, life is about choices.

  481. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 9:04 pm #

    “cleo is wimpering, s/he’s channeling Joe’s forehead”

    The forehead with the big red mark that read “ClueBatâ„¢”. Backwards.

  482. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:04 pm #

    Insty is pounding Biden over the Vice President duties stuff.

  483. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/2 @ 9:05 pm #

    Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:04 pm #

    Loooooo

    Serrrrrr.

  484. Comment by Patrick on 10/2 @ 9:06 pm #

    Jeff,

    Vodkadude was not a tenth as entertaining as this discussion thread, and the PJM site was not responsive about half of the time. So, booze and pay aside, this is a better show.

  485. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 9:07 pm #

    Someone should sockpuppet on the Feminist sites pointing out Joe saying “he” repeatedly when referring to the VP.

    Well, there was a question about what to do about the despair…

  486. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:07 pm #

    Steven Green has great hair.

  487. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:08 pm #

    NPR didn’t say anything about what an unethical skank Ifill is.

  488. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:08 pm #

    A story is going around that Sarah Palin raped kits, but the young fox’s mother denied any such charge.

  489. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:09 pm #

    Has Sister Palin let go of Biden’s pant leg yet?

  490. Comment by Jack Klompus on 10/2 @ 9:09 pm #

    Hey cleo did you figure out yet that a negative plus a negative is still a negative?
    Hey thor did you realize that you are a lame pretentious pseudo-intellecutal name-dropping piece of shit loser that everyone laughs at while you fuck your blow up doll russian mail-order whore you pathetic sack of shit pedantic loser?

  491. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 9:09 pm #

    And an extra $250. Plus looks like they’ll be using him for the TV bidness.

    If I had money I’d start my own media conglomerate and hire me. I think I’d do good work.

  492. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:11 pm #

    I think Ifill got pretty effectively neutralized, although some of the questions were obviously skewed.

  493. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:11 pm #

    Hey, Ifill will be the judge of Ifill, thank you very much.

  494. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:15 pm #

    Wow oh wowwie wow, the Dodgers are up 6-0 in the sixth. Bummer, Chicagoans. Yeah, I’m looking at you, George Will, you prick.

  495. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/2 @ 9:15 pm #

    X-cell-ent performance…

    And what about Joey B. and the VP discussion? WTF Joe! You’re both a lawyer and a Senator and you’re not aware that the VP is the President of the Senate, WTF!!!

    *Ahem*

    “The formal powers and role of the vice president are limited by the Constitution to becoming President should the President become unable to serve (e.g. due to the death, resignation, or medical impairment of the President) and acting as the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate. As President of the Senate, the Vice President has two primary duties: to cast a vote in the event of a Senate deadlock and to preside over and certify the official vote count of the U.S. Electoral College…”

    “As President of the Senate (Article I, Section 3), the vice president oversees procedural matters and may cast a tie-breaking vote. There is a strong convention within the U.S. Senate that the vice president not use his position as President of the Senate to influence the passage of legislation or act in a partisan manner, except in the case of breaking tie votes. As President of the Senate, John Adams cast twenty-nine tie-breaking votes—a record that no successor except for John C. Calhoun ever threatened. His votes protected the president’s sole authority over the removal of appointees, influenced the location of the national capital, and prevented war with Great Britain. On at least one occasion he persuaded senators to vote against legislation that he opposed, and he frequently lectured the Senate on procedural and policy matters. Adams’ political views and his active role in the Senate made him a natural target for critics of the Washington administration. Toward the end of his first term, as a result of a threatened resolution that would have silenced him except for procedural and policy matters, he began to exercise more restraint in the hope of realizing the goal shared by many of his successors: election in his own right as president of the United States of America…

    ‘Nuff said…

  496. Comment by dre on 10/2 @ 9:15 pm #

    Go Sarah!

  497. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:15 pm #

    It’s the hair I think, Jeff. He has door-opening hair.

  498. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 9:15 pm #

    silver spoon Biden, 30+ years in DC, kept trying to play that Scranton, corner diner, working class card…

    and Sarah is the real deal

    he looked lost because he couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t working

  499. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:16 pm #

    That diplomacy question has to go down as one of the most poorly designed and executed questions in modern politics. I still think it was something else entirely up until the moment it was offered.

  500. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/2 @ 9:17 pm #

    Great comment thread. You guys are friggin’ hilarious.

    I watched it with the wife, so I’m just getting caught up now.

    Yeah,Sarah was filling Joey’s ass full of broadhead hunting arrows and breaking off the shafts.

    Something I haven’t seen anyone mention:

    I didn’t quite catch what was said, but it sounded to me like Biden said that Baracky wouldn’t make any decisions without Joey Hairplugs being right there in the room. If so, that’s a damning quote.

    Is the transcript up anywhere?

  501. Comment by Patrick on 10/2 @ 9:17 pm #

    Fucking Cubs are toast.

  502. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:18 pm #

    There’s a picture on Drudge highlighting Governor Palin’s stature. You can see how Joey Hairplugs got down on one knee to shake her hand. It’s very patronizing.

  503. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 9:19 pm #

    I’m growing my hair back as we speak. But I still think if I get one of them PJM mic advertisements and one of them director’s chairs, I’d be in the fucking driver’s seat!

  504. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:19 pm #

    Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 9:09 pm #

    If I had money I’d start my own media conglomerate and hire me. I think I’d do good work.

    I knew it! It was either a skateboard or a media conglomerate that I was going to send you for Christmas.

  505. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:20 pm #

    I will click and click I promise. SarahW is right you are very natural with video.

  506. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 9:20 pm #

    I eat skateboarders for protein.

  507. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 9:22 pm #

    I eat skateboarders for protein.

    what? are they made of bacon?

  508. Comment by ExDip on 10/2 @ 9:23 pm #

    My sister, who is totally in the bag for O!, just spent 15 minutes trying to convince me the debate was a tie. I suspect we will hear lots o that tomorrow.

  509. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:25 pm #

    That friend of Palin’s, Linda Lingle, the governor of Hawaii looks to be a good candidate for something higher one day soon, too.

  510. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 9:26 pm #

    Linda Lingle

    um. no. did you see her at the convention? zzzzzz

  511. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:26 pm #

    Well, no matter how they try to spin this the pressure has all passed over to Obama. Now he’s the one unde the gun at the next debate.

  512. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:27 pm #

    Have I made a single typo free post this evening?

    I think nto.

  513. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/2 @ 9:28 pm #

    Apparently even Excitable Andi is calling it for Sarah.

  514. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 9:28 pm #

    The Dems will have to cheat to win in Nov

    and they have already started in Ohio

    that’s in addition to all the free Obama campaigning aka “news” coverage by the MSM.

  515. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:29 pm #

    Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Christmas, New Years, the season’s gifting diversity probably allows for a stocking full of skateboarder jerky plus a media conglomerate or two.

  516. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:30 pm #

    I saw her somewheres, maggie, and liked what I saw, though I can’t say it was the convention. I think it was much earlier than that in a TV interview or somemott or other. She looked way smart, competent and decent to me, like a Seven Sisters grad with a conscience.

  517. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:31 pm #

    oops. NPR forgot to mention how historic it was that an historically oppressed woman who is almost the same as a minority was standing up there as a vice presidential candidate. That’s almost inexplicable to where I can’t explain how they could overlook that.

  518. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:31 pm #

    Cleo, I can’t wait for Tina Fey’s interpretation come Saturday.

  519. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:33 pm #

    That’s sort of sad with the viewing of the Saturday night broadcast network television in 2008.

  520. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 9:33 pm #

    Tomorrow “American Carol” opens.

  521. Comment by Sdferr on 10/2 @ 9:34 pm #

    To be sure, we will all be waiting to get confirmation of our judgment from the Teenster. She’s got her fingers on the pulse of the coolest, does the Feygirl.

  522. Comment by Reno Sepulveda on 10/2 @ 9:35 pm #

    Palin had that deer in the headlights thing going ON. Biden came off as likeable and authoritative even if he was a bit condescending at times. Hell I don’t know if he was lying or not. Probably, but I’ve only got a 30 second attention span and I’ll quit listening while you’re trying to prove it to me.

  523. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:35 pm #

    Maybe. But I think NPR has a double standard Semanticleo person, and that they’re really a lot insincere about a lot of things.

  524. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:37 pm #

    Hmm, Reno, any chance you’re actually a Senator from Illinois?

  525. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 9:41 pm #

    Krauthammer Said Joe won on points, after admitting Palin was excellent. Something about if you scored from a transcript or something.

    He looked very uncomfortable and maybe he usually looks like that, but I don’t know what is going on with his eyes. Trying to burn off crows feet? What?

    Anyway, the goal, according to the talking heads, was “did she do what she needed to do?” I see exceeding wildest expectations.

    Biden, while no doubt an accomplished statesman, came off as someone that’s been in the senate for a lifetime, and decorum castes principle to the shadows.

  526. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:44 pm #

    That’s sort of… puerile I think Semanticleo person. The VP debate is just not high-stakes in the real world. Nothing that happened tonight will be dispositive so you just come across as sort of cheesey gratuitous. One thing for real though is that the media hasn’t wanted to talk about drilling the energies and to get that in front of millions of people is a big damn setback for Baracky’s media and you know what? That’s ok. Issue-wise I think that’s the only one that broadly resonated … the rest are just too stale (Iraq, global warming, gay weddings) or abstruse (tax policy).

  527. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:44 pm #

    There’s never shame in tossing poo. Unless it’s at hobos or homeless people, then you’re a bit too Republican.

  528. Comment by Gray on 10/2 @ 9:44 pm #

    The biggest loser of tonight was Joe Biden’s forehead, and his goat, I think.

    (ht happyfeet)

  529. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:44 pm #

    oh. I wrote that before you were all ashamed and all. Sorry.

  530. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 9:45 pm #

    Biden

    Doesn’t know the role of the VP
    called the citizens of Bosnia “Bosniacs”

    and not one MSM “analyst” will nail him on it.

  531. Comment by Swen Swenson on 10/2 @ 9:45 pm #

    PJ Media? They’re doing what they do best at times like this — going toes up. Sucking big-headed pundits through a little bitty bandwidth straw just don’t work worth a damn.

  532. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:46 pm #

    The lawyer, thirty plus year Senator who doesn’t know his ass end from Article I of the Constitution.

  533. Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 10/2 @ 9:46 pm #

    Semanticleo wants to be a blog cockroach!

  534. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 9:46 pm #

    NPR forgot to mention how historic it was [...] That’s almost inexplicable to where I can’t explain how they could overlook that

    I got the down low on that HF.

    It’s because of Geraldine. It’s soooo 80’s.

  535. Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 9:47 pm #

    “media hasn’t wanted to talk about drilling the energies”

    I see yer pernt. That hasn’t been on the news much. Good luck with the DRILL, DRILL, DRILL…………..

  536. Comment by thor on 10/2 @ 9:48 pm #

    If we were electing a homecoming queen, Sister Palin would had my vote with her first winky.

    Her “shout out” almost made my bowels instantaneously combust. She’s never really left college, I’m afraid.

  537. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:49 pm #

    Hrmm. You and me we just has a fundamental difference Semanticleo person.

  538. Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 9:49 pm #

    “Unless it’s at hobos or homeless people, then you’re a bit too Republican.”

    Sorry, again. Conscience is a weakness. Must think ’sociopath’…….think ’sociopath.

  539. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/2 @ 9:50 pm #

    Sucking big-headed pundits through a little bitty bandwidth straw just don’t work worth a damn.

    They need to be deploying through something like Amazon EC2 and S3, for real.

    That would let them ramp up for special events, without having a lot of hardware sitting around idle most of the time.

  540. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:50 pm #

    Maybe Biden needs to spend some time with a Constitutional scholar. Does he know anybody like that?

  541. Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 9:51 pm #

    “Maybe Biden needs to spend some time with a Constitutional scholar.”

    He was with Sarah for 90 minutes and she knows all ’bout Rove and Wave.

  542. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 9:52 pm #

    Governor Palin’s performance I think makes it a lot more likely Nancy will tank the bailout.

  543. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 9:53 pm #

    But does Biden actually know anybody who understands the Constitution? Because he needs a little remedial edumacation

  544. Comment by Ric Locke on 10/2 @ 9:54 pm #

    Semanticleo and thor are just indignant that that snow-nigger is allowed to drink from the same water fountains decent people use. You could probably sell ‘em axe handles, except that thor probably already has one.

    Ah, nostalgia.

    Regards,
    Ric

  545. Comment by Gray on 10/2 @ 9:55 pm #

    Palin: “Freedom isn’t something we pass to our kids in our bloodstream; it’s something we fight for and and something we teach them to fight for.”

    Biden: “Blah blah Cheney is the worst; blah blah Let’s lose the War; blah blah Bush is the worst; Blah blah I hated Bork.”

  546. Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 9:55 pm #

    “Ah, nostalgia.”

    Aren’t you the guy who thwacked Jack Nicholson in ‘Easy Rider’?

  547. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 9:56 pm #

    - Scoooooooooooore!!!!!

    - Biden needs to hang around the stage and hope he can get his ballsac back.

    - FOX text poll: 82% Palin / 12% Biden – 1M+ votes

    - OhhhhhRaaaaaa! Sempre Fie!

  548. Comment by Semanticleo on 10/2 @ 9:58 pm #

    FOX text poll: 82% Palin / 12% Biden – 1M+ votes

    Hm yah. More science from the ’scientific’.

  549. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:00 pm #

    - I liked when she said she wanted to talk directly too America and screw the press editing her words.

    - Course, with all the lies old Joe tried to slip in, he needs an editor

  550. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 10:02 pm #

    Does SemenKKKleo speak English?

  551. Comment by Kurt on 10/2 @ 10:02 pm #

    The Saturday Night Live sketch template is officially dead.

  552. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:03 pm #

    - Common bitch. Its just a phone. You do know how to operate a phone don’t you.

  553. Comment by Benedick on 10/2 @ 10:05 pm #

    Funny to watch Semanticwhatever argue with happyfeet, even whilst adoringly adopting the semantic stylings of his superior adversary.

  554. Comment by Gray on 10/2 @ 10:06 pm #

    At least Biden tells it like it is in the political game:

    “Yeah, Hi, Barry? Yeah, I stunk it up. She actually got me with the White Flag thing and then–I’ll be damned–she got in the shining-city-onna-hill thing.”

    “Yeah…. Yeah, I know… The only thing that shined up there was my botoxed forehead. She’s a pistol, Barry–and I’m up there talking about me in third person like ol’ Bob Dole….”

    “No… No… I know… It didn’t look good….”

    “Yeah, we gotta sew this thing up, y’know, like my mom said to bloody their noses. OK, G’night.”

  555. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 10:09 pm #

    Palin kids in public school

    Obama kids? Naw.

  556. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:10 pm #

    - I love her – I just flat out by gawd love her.

  557. Comment by mojo on 10/2 @ 10:12 pm #

    I Said, Hey Joe, Where You Goin’ With That Dumb In Your Hand?

  558. Comment by cranky-d on 10/2 @ 10:14 pm #

    Everyone has their more idiotic supporters I think. It’s pretty much unavoidable that they will youtube their stupidity for all to see.

  559. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:14 pm #

    - Wrong Jeff. The more of that crap the elitist fling around, the harder they’re going to get their asses kicked to the curb. I hope they unkeash a torrnt of this stuff.

    - Watch how independents react to this shit.

  560. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 10:16 pm #

    I saw that, Jeff.

  561. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:19 pm #

    - Theres Obama, out in the Mid West, throwing a trainload of money around, trying to sway Western votes, and his elitist friends are out there helping him out waving red flags in front of middle America.

    - I used to think the Left loses elections on the issues. I’m starting to think its because their tactics are just so damn arrogant and stupid.

  562. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 10:20 pm #

    This kinda thing doesn’t help, though.

  563. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:23 pm #

    - Don’t know what that one was Jeff. They pulled it down.

  564. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 10:24 pm #

    link is fixed I think.

  565. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 10:25 pm #

    ok, Jeff….that’s sly

  566. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 10:25 pm #

    Biden said he and Barrack might have to slow down on their plans to double foreign assistance.

    It may take a little longer than planned to pay make the world love us.

  567. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:27 pm #

    - Same one I was commenting on. Immature and wrong headed to go that way. But it was done by kids, so what do you expect.

  568. Comment by Ric Locke on 10/2 @ 10:27 pm #

    Aren’t you the guy who thwacked Jack Nicholson in ‘Easy Rider’?

    Nope. That was Joe Bob Thorson. I fired his ass for shooting hippies on company time and not cleaning the shotgun afterwards. But that was just an excuse. I was sick of listening to his bullshit.

    You sound just like him, except with purtier words.

    Regards,
    Ric

  569. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:29 pm #

    - Might have something to do with the fact that you don’t see too many 23 year old Presidents.

  570. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 10:29 pm #

    Green bottle beer!!!??!!

    Who the hell does he think he’s fooling?

  571. Comment by Jeff G. on 10/2 @ 10:31 pm #

    That was Miller Chill, brother. Good stuff.

  572. Comment by happyfeet on 10/2 @ 10:33 pm #

    I IMd it to a friend and he kept saying … you know this guy??? you know this guy??? and I said kinda and now he has a theory that Biden was mysteriously well-prepared…

  573. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:34 pm #

    - Looks like the Kossack brigade has chucked it in for the evening. The gloating is just too much for them. Heh.

    - Palin just made a hook shot from the far end of the court – all net. McOldFart should shake lose a little bit of mama’s money, and send her 4 dozen of the finest American long-stemmed beauties.

  574. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 10:36 pm #

    Green bottle beer!!!??!!

    okay, it wasn’t just me. heh.

  575. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 10:39 pm #

    Oh well, in that case, bravo. It’s almost a pitch perfect stereotype of what my Obamaton kid sister thinks most of America is like. I just sent it to her husband, he’ll love it.

  576. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 10:39 pm #

    Green bottle beer!!!??!!

    ODouls?

  577. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 10:40 pm #

    watch the comments there…

  578. Comment by Darleen on 10/2 @ 10:41 pm #

    whoops

    should have refreshed before posting

    as I said earlier, sly

    and I’m still guffawing

  579. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 10:41 pm #

    I thought the teeth were a nice touch.

  580. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 10:44 pm #

    The couch needed some duct tape.

  581. Comment by Republican on Acid on 10/2 @ 10:47 pm #

    One funny thing about this is you won’t hear one peep about how horrible it is that BO and Joe don’t support gay marriage. Where will the cries of gay outrage be?

  582. Comment by ThomasD on 10/2 @ 10:49 pm #

    They ‘don’t support’ gay marriage as much as they ’support’ coal fired power plants. In other words, they are depending on the courts to do the heavy lifting and keep their hands clean.

  583. Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/2 @ 10:50 pm #

    I don’t have $250 but hit the tip jar for what I could.

    I had to work through the whole debate so this thread is a nice catch-up.

    Good work all.

  584. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:51 pm #

    “One funny thing about this is you won’t hear one peep about how horrible it is that BO and Joe don’t support gay marriage.”

    - The underside of the MagicBus has an infinite amount of room to accept inconvenient truths.

  585. Comment by lee on 10/2 @ 10:52 pm #

    The couch needed some duct tape.

    Yeah, I thought the set was a little off. Too bad the cinematographer didn’t have a partially finished basement, maybe a mount. Moose ideally, but a deer, fish, even an armadillo would give it ambiance.

  586. Comment by Patrick on 10/2 @ 10:53 pm #

    Jeff,
    Fucking. Funny. Stuff.

    OK, people, that was worth at least the $250 that Green got paid tonight. Belly up to the tipjar.

  587. Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 10/2 @ 10:56 pm #

    - Has anyone been brave enough to venture over to Kos or DU to see how many suicides have been reported this evening?

  588. Comment by cranky-d on 10/2 @ 10:58 pm #

    That’s what I get for commenting without watching more than a few seconds of video…. the damn thing was taking way too long to load and I have the patience of a boiling teakettle in the intertubes.

  589. Comment by JD on 10/2 @ 11:11 pm #

    Fuckin’ hysterical. “with ties to the Jooooooooooooooooooooos” and “killing people who needs some killing”

  590. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 11:27 pm #

    599!

  591. Comment by Victor. on 10/2 @ 11:29 pm #

    Just how lame is AlexZTuned, refreshing YouTube continuously so that he stays current for the homeroom gossip.

    Jeff, please consider making that a series.

    “The Largess of the Palin Demographic”

  592. Comment by maggie katzen on 10/2 @ 11:39 pm #

    oh crap, I just realized FNC will probably be rerunning this all night. I’ll have to find a different station to sleep to.

    BBC wasn’t it, happyfeet?

  593. Comment by nikko mahor on 10/2 @ 11:54 pm #

    i think palin did better than expected. some of her answers were rehearsed understandably. mccain’s camp will not have her become a lose cannon of some sort. but she did very well. however, i think the debate goes to biden who projected himself as more “vice-presidentiable”. and with the economic mess that america is, and with obama leading the race, biden is assured of the vice president title after the november elections.

    BUT even if the republicans lose this november, i think we will see more of sarah palin in the next presidential elections. hopefully as the woman on top and not as no.2. a more seasoned sarah palin, a more experienced sarah palin after 4 years of an obama presidency will make obama want to run for cover come 2012.

    PEACE!!!

  594. Comment by Fat Man on 10/3 @ 12:00 am #

    Calvin Coolidge Julius Caesar Tuskahoma .. McLish. Beautiful.

  595. Comment by Walsingham on 10/3 @ 12:51 am #

    “Belly up to the tipjar.”

    My pleasure.

    >Clink!<

  596. Comment by MC on 10/3 @ 1:59 am #

    Welcome to the Palin Doctrine!

  597. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/3 @ 4:23 am #

    Sarah won, hands, down.

    Go look at the headlines list at Lucianne.com

    Always a sure indicator.

  598. Comment by Roland THTG on 10/3 @ 6:19 am #

    All the dems were about “Didn’t separate from Booosh policy”. Seems they were expecting the plugs to fall out on the floor.

  599. Comment by The Lost Dog on 10/3 @ 6:47 am #

    Hi, people.

    Been busy polishng my street urchin creds, so I haven’t been around lately.

    Just wanted to say, get ready for O! as president.

    Sarah was very nice last night – VERY nice! At a very crucial time when what she needed to do was rip Obama-Biden a new asshole, she smiled for the cameras, then rolled over and played dead. The facts are all there, but I guess McDoDo is more interested in playing kissy face than saving this country from an irreversible slide into socialism/fascism.

    Bummer. I will still vote for him, but he is once again a total asshole in my book.

    I tried to like him. I really did.

    But what a fucking dope he is.

  600. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/3 @ 6:52 am #

    SBP,
    Joey B. did make it sound like O! wasn’t gonna make a move without consulting him first…

    It occurs to me though, that this is the same meme the left has been using to deride Booooooooosh with for the last 8 years; they’ve been saying that Cheney is the puppet master and Booooooooosh is the marionette…

    This is something that really needs to be played up a lot by the right-o-sphere and Mav’s campaign…

  601. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/3 @ 7:02 am #

    Joey B. did make it sound like O! wasn’t gonna make a move without consulting him first … This is something that really needs to be played up a lot

    Exactly. The full quote is up in the transcript thread. I wonder if Bambi agrees that he’s not allowed to wipe his ass without permission from Uncle Joe?

  602. Comment by ThomasD on 10/3 @ 7:45 am #

    Oh come on, everyone knows that Joey’s not going to have any say over Obama. I mean, at the very least Michelle has needs and I don’t think they could even be delayed much less denied.

  603. Comment by McGehee on 10/3 @ 8:00 am #

    biden who projected himself as more “vice-presidentiable”.

    Well, he is worth about a bucket of warm spit…

  604. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/3 @ 8:43 am #

    Oh come on, everyone knows that Joey’s not going to have any say over Obama.

    Sure, we know that. That’s why Biden’s statement is so funny and why it needs to get heavy play.

    Obama can:

    1) Ignore the statement (damaging, if it gets enough play).
    2) Repudiate the statement (more damaging).
    3) Admit that he’ll be taking his lead from Biden (supremely damaging).

    Where’s the downside?

  605. Trackback by Democrat=Socialist on 10/3 @ 9:28 am #

    All The Post VP Debate Buzz…

    Greasy Joe never saw it coming.

    My thoughts?  Who cares?!  Gov. Palin’s freakin hot!  She could have stood up there and read the back of a shampoo bottle and I’d vote for her.  Now I know what Chris Matthews meant about that shiver up ……

  606. Comment by mojo on 10/3 @ 9:34 am #

    He said: “I’m goin’ down to shoot my left footie, you know I caught it messin’ ’round with another plan…”

  607. Comment by happyfeet on 10/3 @ 9:51 am #

    I read #614 and I didn’t know I could have more admiration for psycho but there it is.

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