The Supreme Court has struck down the District of Columbia’s 32-year-old ban on handguns, ruling 5-4 that Americans have an individual right to own guns for self-defense and hunting — the Cort’s first major pronouncement on gun rights in US history.
Lyle Denniston adds at SCOTUS Blog:
Justice Scalia’s opinion stressed that the Court was not casting doubt on long-standing bans on carrying a concealed gun or on gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, on laws barring guns from schools or government buildings, and laws putting conditions on gun sales.
And if you were planning on getting a machine gun?  Sorry. Tom Goldstein (no relation to Jeff, afaik) has quotes, adding that the opinion technically does not answer the issue as to state laws (though it likely applies). SCOTUS Blog has a download link.
Barack Obama’s campaign denounced as “inartful” a statement to the Chicago Tribune last year in which an unnamed aide characterized Obama’s position as believing that the DC ban was constitutional.
“Inartful” is the new “overheated.”
Update: Glenn Reynolds tends to think that the decision takes guns off the table in the general election. Based on the comments here and elsewhere, I think it is a 5-4 decision that alerts 2nd Amendment types and others as to how important the inevitable Supreme Court nominations are. Also, Bob Owens notes that a David Ehrenstein — perhaps he of “magic negro” fame — has suggested that people shoot Justice Scalia if he comes anywhere near their homes.
Update x2: Allahpundit has lovely video of Obama nodding in agreement in February as an interviewer reminds him that he supports the DC ban, plus Obama today desperately dodging questions as to whether he agrees with overturning the ban in DC.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 9:11 am #
4 of the Supreme Court Justices cannot read the fucking Constitution, which is still quite a concern.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 9:14 am #
I get the sense that JD is a “glass is four-ninths empty” sort of guy.
;-)
Comment by psycho... on 6/26 @ 9:16 am #
None of them can read it (and only Thomas occasionally tries).
There’s no fucking ‘tard-disarmament clause.
Comment by grouch on 6/26 @ 9:18 am #
“We know of no other enumerated constitutional right whose core protection has been subjected to a freestanding “interest-balancing†approach. The very enumeration of the right takes out of the hands of governmentâ€â€even the
Third Branch of Governmentâ€â€the power to decide on a case-by-case basis whether the right is really worth insisting upon.
A constitutional guarantee subject to future judges’ assessments of its usefulness is no constitutional guarantee at all. Constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have when the people adopted them, whether or not future legislatures or even future judges think that scope too broad.”
TAKE THAT! YA BLODDY BASTICHES!!!!!!1111one
Comment by Urainium238 on 6/26 @ 9:18 am #
I’m sure Barry O’s reactions will be “That’s not the DC gun ban i knew.”
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 9:19 am #
Now all those bitter people in DC can go back to clinging to their guns after 32 years of just clinging to bibles.
Comment by JHoward on 6/26 @ 9:23 am #
Well, the first five comments made sense…
Comment by dre on 6/26 @ 9:23 am #
“Inartful†is the new “overheated.â€Â
Change you can believe in ™
Comment by bigbooner on 6/26 @ 9:24 am #
I think JD has it right. That four of these idiots got it wrong is a cause for concern.
Comment by mojo on 6/26 @ 9:25 am #
Actually, it looks like “inartful” (lawyerese for ‘not slippery enough’) is the new “inoperative”. John Dean heard it and turned white as a ghost…
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 9:29 am #
After that abomination that they issued yesterday in re. Louisiana, where they again assumed the role of Legislators-in-Chief, it was not surprising that 4 of the 9 were still acting in such a wretched manner on this ruling.
But, I am glad that the 5 of the Justices that can read were there.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 9:29 am #
I was figuring inartful would be right by distraction in the new Obama dictionary to be released this fall.
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:30 am #
“Yes, DC, there is a right to bear arms’
Yes Mr President, there is a right to arm bears.
Maybe you guys could perform a public service and offer streaming
video of the HJC as Yoo and ‘Puff’ Addington try to defend their
‘constitutionl’ perogatives.
It’s a real hoot to watch masters of Plausible Denialism at work. [
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 6/26 @ 9:31 am #
In no particular order of importance…
psycho: “There’s no fucking ‘tard-disarmament clause.”
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights was written at a time when folks would have been ill-inclined to allow crazy Uncle Hezikiah access to a flintlock.
Additionally, as stated by Justice Jackson once upon a time, the Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Progg Hero: “Now all those bitter people in DC can go back to clinging to their guns after 32 years of just clinging to bibles.”
Given the large numbers of DC citizens slain by criminals during the period under which the local populace were limited to clinging only to Bibles, I’d say that today’s court decision is a practical improvement. They do say the God helps those who help themselves…
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 9:31 am #
I’m sure Barry O’s reactions will be “That’s not the DC gun ban i knew.â€Â
Actually, he is more likely to say “That’s not the Constitution I knew”, right before tossing it under the back of the bus.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 9:32 am #
SemenCleo is wasted.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 6/26 @ 9:33 am #
JD: “Actually, he is more likely to say “That’s not the Constitution I knewâ€Â, right before tossing it under the back of the bus.”
Do the wheels of the bus still touch the ground anymore, what with all the people and things that Barry has thrown under the bus?
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 9:35 am #
Dread - Since he is throwing everyone under the back of the bus, they serve as human traction strips.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 9:35 am #
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 9:19 am #
Now all those bitter people in DC can go back to clinging to their guns after 32 years of just clinging to bibles.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 4:57 am #
How long till you figure they rule the 2nd unconstitutional? Hahahahahha.
You’ve exceeded your idiot quotient today.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 6/26 @ 9:36 am #
JD: “Since he is throwing everyone under the back of the bus, they serve as human traction strips.”
Okay, folks — important safety tip, folks — don’t stand behind the bus!!
Comment by Ouroboros on 6/26 @ 9:38 am #
Woo Hoo! Good sense and plain English win for once..!
I’m dancing around the office right now… firing my AK in the air and doing that weird ululating thing! lalalalalalalalllala!
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 9:39 am #
Okay, folks  important safety tip, folks  don’t stand behind the bus!!
More like, don’t be standing within arms reach of O! when he’s about to throw someone under the back of the bus!
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:45 am #
Sociopaths, it is said, often can defeat polygraphs, but poker players
can read their tells.
Act I Scene II of the Plame trials.
Act III Scene I for the revised conclusion of Iran/Contra.
It’s gonna get interesting. Reeeaaalllll interesting.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 9:48 am #
Cleo likes him some show trials!
Comment by Ric Locke on 6/26 @ 9:48 am #
Bah. My prediction, at Volokh and elsewhere, stands as an interpretation: The right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, but anything a Legislature may come up with counts as “well-regulated”. The result is to enumerate a useless “right” that can be regulated, licensed, and restricted out of practical existence at the whim of anybody with the Holy Seal of Approval® as a Government Official&tm;. Scalia makes a truly notable effort, employing not merely lipstick but the full arsenal of the makeup artist, but the pig remains a pig.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 9:49 am #
Semanticsclueless is significantly more obtuse today.
I blame Global Warming and JD, but not Katrina.
Comment by Scape-goat Trainee on 6/26 @ 9:52 am #
Indeed.
Four of the nine decided that citizens have no right to self-protection, but scumbags that rape children have no fear from being put out of their misery.
The Left is truly at war with common sense.
An Obama Presidency that would potentially nominate more of these idiots is frightening.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 9:52 am #
Sociopaths, it is said, often can defeat polygraphs, but poker players
can read their tells.
Act I Scene II of the Plame trials.
Act III Scene I for the revised conclusion of Iran/Contra.
It’s gonna get interesting. Reeeaaalllll interesting.
Jeff, I demand less coherence from PW trolls, especially the reeeeeaaallly interesting ones!
Comment by mojo on 6/26 @ 9:56 am #
I love people who are unaware of older, possibly antiquated meanings on the word “regulated”…
Example: A “well-regulated” watch is one in good working order, that keeps good time - not one built and operated according to government regulations.
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:58 am #
“…some show trials!”
Well, fresh air and sunshine make good disinfectants….or would you
prefer secret trials?
What am I saying? Of course you want a Dark Courtroom.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 9:59 am #
Maybe we need a “Wayback Machine”! Mr. Peabody…Sherman…Bueller?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 10:02 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:30 am #
Do you speak English?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 10:06 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:45 am #
“The Taming of the Shrew”
Act 2 Scene 2: “Get thee to a Fucktardary”
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:06 am #
Well if I am a parody that guy is a flipping nutcase.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:12 am #
How did he miss the Renaissance Fair?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 10:12 am #
“#Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:06 am #
Well if I am a parody that guy is a flipping nutcase.”
You’re no parody.
You’re just a poor pitiful lonely reactionary fascist.
Comment by cranky-d on 6/26 @ 10:13 am #
Hey, now I get it. This place makes him vomit, but he keeps coming back.
Bulimia it is!
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:14 am #
Comment by N. O’Brain on 6/26 @ 10:12 am #
“#Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:06 am #
Well if I am a parody that guy is a flipping nutcase.â€Â
You’re no parody.
You’re just a poor pitiful lonely reactionary fascist.
N. O’Brain, you forgot the “hahahahaha” at the end!
Comment by J. Peden on 6/26 @ 10:15 am #
It’s a real hoot to watch masters of Plausible Denialism at work.
Close, but watching Obama being “artful” is more of what I would call a necessary perversion.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 6/26 @ 10:15 am #
I took him for more of a show tunes kind of guy.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:15 am #
Hey, now I get it. This place makes him vomit, but he keeps coming back.
Bulimia it is!
Serial Bulimist!
Comment by cranky-d on 6/26 @ 10:16 am #
See, he’s not trying to be annoying, just trying to lose some weight. Good luck, ProggHero!
Comment by Radish on 6/26 @ 10:17 am #
I wonder if the Chicago aldermen are soiling their drawers.
At least they can still ban water…
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:20 am #
Funny the patting of the back that is going on here considering that you guys are one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weapon.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 10:21 am #
Radish,
Alderman Dick Mell is probably relieved that he didn’t need his own amnesty bill for his arsenal.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 10:22 am #
PH,
Try comments 1, 9, 25, 27…
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 6/26 @ 10:25 am #
Awful, awful decision. The 60s and 70s, especially in New York City, ought to have proved once and for all that police paperwork after the crime is all the protection a citizen needs.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 10:25 am #
PH,
You might also consider that being “one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weapon” is probably not something proggs want to be broadcasting over the next four months or so.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 10:25 am #
I denounce Slarti for being a homophobe, and BJ for well … just the principle of it.
Comment by Puck on 6/26 @ 10:26 am #
“Funny the patting of the back that is going on here considering that you guys are one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weapon.”
So, you’re saying that stare decisis doesn’t matter? Excellent news. Someone get that Roe v. Wade case down from the shelf. Time for a little jurisprudential cleanup.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:28 am #
I denounce Slarti for being a homophobe, and BJ for well … just the principle of it.
So now you got to be sexual orientation neutral as well?
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 10:28 am #
“Close, but watching Obama being “artful†is more of what I would call a necessary perversion.”
That’s a necessary concomitant. But I would have thought you folks would find that an appealing quality.
Or is your contempt a disguised envy that he’s not YOUR Nazi?
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 10:29 am #
PH - I am not the least bit happy that 4 fucking SC Justices cannot read or understand our country’s foundational documents.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 10:31 am #
What the fuck is SemenKKKleo babbling about? Is there a nationwide shortage of lithium,
Comment by Great Banana on 6/26 @ 10:31 am #
“Funny the patting of the back that is going on here considering that you guys are one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weapon.â€Â
this is what is wrong with liberalism in a nutshell. Instead of believing in the constitution and wanting to believe the clearly enumerated rights therein are sacrosanct, the left believes that the constitution is a blank slate to be re-written at will by the supremem court, making the supreme court just another political machine.
And they wonder why we think that they are the real fascists. Are any of our constitutional rights safe from attack by the left once they gain power and a truly liberal majority sits on the supreme court? Apparently not. For some reason the only “constitutional” right the left believes in is abortion, which of course is mentioned nowhere in the document itself.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:33 am #
I have a question. How come it is ok to regulate guns, but somehow the same people for that get all crazy when people try to regulate late term abortions? Or vice versa?
Comment by Education Guy on 6/26 @ 10:35 am #
A gun is not like a baby, and likewise a baby is not like a gun.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:35 am #
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:33 am #
I have a question. How come it is ok to regulate guns, but somehow the same people for that get all crazy when people try to regulate late term abortions? Or vice versa?
Clinging to guns and the Bible go hand-in-hand. Remember? Did your index cards get out of order?
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 10:37 am #
“4 of the Supreme Court Justices cannot read the fucking Constitution, which is still quite a concern.”
I agree, JD, but we certainly can’t say we are surprised. And I don’t think it’s so much a problem of literacy as it is a problem of four people on the SCOTUS think of the constitution as a roll of toilet paper.
Comment by Great Banana on 6/26 @ 10:37 am #
I have a question. How come it is ok to regulate guns, but somehow the same people for that get all crazy when people try to regulate late term abortions? Or vice versa?
because abortion is to be found nowhere in the constitution and is not a real constitutional right and should be left to the state legislatures to decide (and of course, the fact that a baby is being murdered), whereas the right to keep and bear arms is explicitly stated in the constitution.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:37 am #
Yeah my index cards are all sticky with the hot mess of CHANGE I shot all over my hand.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 10:39 am #
Now you have something to put in your mouth!
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 10:42 am #
“Are any of our constitutional rights safe from attack by the left once they gain power and a truly liberal majority sits on the supreme court? Apparently not. For some reason the only “constitutional†right the left believes in is abortion, which of course is mentioned nowhere in the document itself.”
The Pendulum is set to swing according to the political laws of Physics. Marx disagreed with Hegel (who believed it was a continuous
activity, rather than Das Kapital’s opinion that it would swing only till it reached full left.)
I agree with Hegel. 180 degrees of separation is here and WingNut Nation is due for a clubbing. But, knowing the Dialectic will eventually return to your favor, we will carefully observe all your
civil rights during our tenure. Relax, it won’t hurt as much as you think.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 10:43 am #
“Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 9:30 am #
“Yes, DC, there is a right to bear arms’
Yes Mr President, there is a right to arm bears.
Maybe you guys could perform a public service and offer streaming
video of the HJC as Yoo and ‘Puff’ Addington try to defend their
‘constitutionl’ perogatives.
It’s a real hoot to watch masters of Plausible Denialism at work.”
And it’s an even bigger hoot to watch Semanticleoism at work
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 10:44 am #
Comment by Great Banana on 6/26 @ 10:37 am #
I have a question. How come it is ok to regulate guns, but somehow the same people for that get all crazy when people try to regulate late term abortions? Or vice versa?
because abortion is to be found nowhere in the constitution and is not a real constitutional right and should be left to the state legislatures to decide (and of course, the fact that a baby is being murdered), whereas the right to keep and bear arms is explicitly stated in the constitution.
Well that is why I asked the question. The 2nd is pretty cut and dry if you read it “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. Meanwhile the hidden interstatechangeyunlawfulsearchandseizureabortion amendment can not in any way shape or form be regulated. And meanwhile you gun nuts all want to get your creepy gun oiled bible smelling hands up in womens business. From what I can tell both these issues are just going to be bandied about until my side gets one more justice up there and then you are f@$#ed. Cause the only stare decisis that matters is the ones we decide.
Comment by MarkD on 6/26 @ 10:44 am #
I was quite amused when that idiot columnist Carl Rowan was busted in DC for brandishing a gun at his own house. Self defense for me, but not for thee.
The police are under no obligation to protect you. I looked at the Constitution, and I couldn’t find any obligation to die because somebody might be offended if I chose to protect myself and my family.
When the elites give up their privileges (like when Teddy Kennedy gives up his bodyguards and stands trial for DWI, Manslaughter, and Leaving the Scene) I will listen to their arguments. Until such time, I guess I’ll just run my own life.
Does this mean Jim Webb’s bodyguard is off the hook for carrying in DC? Do they expunge criminal records for those convicted of violating an unconstitutional law?
Comment by Log Cabin on 6/26 @ 10:46 am #
This ruling illustrates why I am forced to vote for McCain, horse’s ass though he truly is. Ginsburg and Stevens are hanging on, each with a foot in the grave, hoping (but never praying, that would be wrong!) for O! to select their replacements.
I’m not confident McCain could get a nominee who has actually read the constitution through the Senate, but at least there is a chance.
Comment by Education Guy on 6/26 @ 10:48 am #
Cause the only stare decisis that matters is the ones we decide.
Don’t think this has gone unnoticed.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 10:50 am #
“Sociopaths, it is said, often can defeat polygraphs, but poker players
can read their tells.
Act I Scene II of the Plame trials.
Act III Scene I for the revised conclusion of Iran/Contra.
It’s gonna get interesting. Reeeaaalllll interesting.”
Semanticleo -
Isn’t it a little early to be this that toasted? I usually don’t get incoherent until after the bars close.
Comment by McGehee on 6/26 @ 10:52 am #
Y’all go easy on Semanticleo. You know how she gets when her world-view is refuted by events — have a little sensitivity.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 6/26 @ 10:56 am #
Log Cabin,
The deal is whether one more Kennedy (or a Miers) will stem the tide. McCain might put up a Roberts or Alito but when they get knocked down we’ll be seeing no better than another Kennedy. McCain has a handful of sycophantic allies in the Senate but he has earned the enmity of a substantial portion of the Republican caucus.
That said - he’s ten times better than the Vibrator.
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 10:57 am #
“Isn’t it a little early…..”
It’s always too early for you, JD and N’OB. I don’t write for Remedial Students.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 11:00 am #
“Well if I am a parody that guy is a flipping nutcase.”
ProggZero,
Parody or not, that is the first time you ever made me laugh.
Comment by Thomass on 6/26 @ 11:02 am #
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 9:39 am #
“More like, don’t be standing within arms reach of O! when he’s about to throw someone under the back of the bus!”
What’s this under the back bus cr*p. You throw people under the bus in the front. More opportunities for traction and compaction (of the current problem/s).
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 11:02 am #
“Cause the only stare decisis that matters is the ones we decide.”
Thank you, ProggZero, for defining pregressives in a nutshell.
Comment by Clint on 6/26 @ 11:03 am #
It’s not that they can’t read them, it’s just that you’re not reading them correctly. Similar to the professor who told me that “Kant’s great if he’s read right!” You just have to look for the meaning, as those four justices did. They searched and they found. Thankfully they were in the minority in this decision.
Perhaps it’s just my particular viewpoint, but I think you attribute too much to ignorance what is better ascribed to a corrupt philosophy. As our recent ProggSuperHero is showing us (hopefully intentionally), the entire Progg/Tranzi philosophy is one of reduction of individual rights and more reliance on our benevolent government to show us the way to enlightenment. To say that the minority decision comes from one where they can’t read the Constitution is lessen their philosophy which should be confronted not dismissed.
I, for one, am all for PH shouting from the rooftops that we are “one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weapon”. Let us see clearly what their true intentions are and evaluate them on their (lack of) merits. Let Barack throw people under his Hopitude Express and do it in the full view of the American public. Put a mic under his face everytime he declares that someone has radically changed in the last five minutes. These will allow people to see how clearly they want control, control not only of government, but of your everyday lives.
I also, look forward to this decision being extended to other places such as Chicago. (Where to combat recent gang violence the mayor and police commissioner want to put M-4s in the hands of the patrol officers…)
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 11:04 am #
There’s always reverse.
Comment by JHoward on 6/26 @ 11:06 am #
All of ‘em? List, please.
Just to be sure. Because the first list got changed to mean other stuff too often.
Comment by Cave Bear on 6/26 @ 11:08 am #
Is it my imagination, or is Semanticlit even more incoherent than usual today. Not one of his posts have made any sense whatsoever. So sad…
Comment by Ouroboros on 6/26 @ 11:10 am #
For you mentally challenged Red-Staters that incorrectly believe that you understand the complex wording of the Bill of Rights let me expand the wording with a few single syllable additions that will make it easier for you to get your minds around the progressive spirit of the document.
The vague wording;
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Properly translates into progressive newspeak as;
A well regulated {killbot} Militia, being necessary {until we find a way to get rid of it altogether} to the security of a free State, the right of the{little} People to keep {in the governments possession} and bear {under government lock and key} Arms, shall not be infringed {except by liberal judges friendly to the sacred Progressive cause of Liberal Fascism}.
Hope that clears things up for you.
Comment by TheGeezer on 6/26 @ 11:12 am #
Physic has political laws? Apparently you don’t write for remedial students because authorities permitting that could be criminally liable for aiding and abetting ignorance and stupidity.
Also, you may want to revise your understanding of dialectical materialism, at least to the point at which you can stop dropping names as the alternaive to comprehension.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 11:13 am #
Now, now you should have been paying attention to Arlen Specter during Robert’s confirmation hearing. He was very clear that Roe v. Wade was a super precedent.
Heh, the look that Roberts gave him was priceless.
Show of hands: Is there anything in proggieparody’s chest beating proclamations that doesn’t clearly identify him as a “Liberal Fascist?” (other than recognizing that semiconscious is teh batshit crazee)
Anyone? Anything? Bueller?
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 11:13 am #
“Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 10:57 am #
“Isn’t it a little early…..â€Â
It’s always too early for you, JD and N’OB. I don’t write for Remedial Students.”
Oh. My. God!
What a zinger, (c)leo! How will I face the world after my soul has been torn asunder by such a devastating comment? I am ruined, I tell you, just RUINED!
OH! The humiliation!
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - URP! I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth, hoser.
Comment by Sematicletus on 6/26 @ 11:14 am #
Yee Haw! I can start wearing my wife beaters again and show off my new Obama tattoo! Hot Damn!
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:15 am #
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Honestly, if i was going to interpert that one the first sentence would not be taken for a reasoning why the right of the people shall not be infringed, but as the reasoning to infringe it. Per say a few tweaks with the meaning of People to such a degree as it will no longer mean person.
Comment by Education Guy on 6/26 @ 11:16 am #
Cleo is teacher 2.0 in the model of post modern education. You aren’t supposed to learn from him, you are supposed to stand in awe of his knowledge and parrot his methods. Duh!
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:17 am #
Cleo every time you post a comment you make me wanna go out and grab a McCain bumpersticker.
Comment by TheGeezer on 6/26 @ 11:23 am #
That’s it. PH is now on the nishi list. Third grade sentence constructions push him over the top.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:27 am #
Well as long as cleo isn’t on this nishi list I will be totally fine with it. This guy sounds like the freakin Uni-bomber.
Comment by Ouroboros on 6/26 @ 11:29 am #
people does not really mean people per say [sic].. It means, you know.. like the collective PEOPLE as represented by the government..
hahahahaahaha! I love it! Jeff you’ve really outdone yourself with this latest parody.. You should be taken this in SNL or Mad TV..
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:29 am #
Dude I ain’t Jeff.
Comment by Ouroboros on 6/26 @ 11:30 am #
Should read “taking this to SNL”.. I was chuckling at PH and typod.. my bad.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 11:33 am #
It’s always too early for you, JD and N’OB. I don’t write for Remedial Students.
How about we make a deal? Whenever you are rambling incoherently, you have to promise that at least one of us, preferably you, knows what in the fuck you are talking about.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 6/26 @ 11:36 am #
Anyone notice the ruling said nothing about licensing? DC is liberal. As (I think it was Ed Morrissey) noted, the process will be the only one worse than the DMV. Sure you can now get a firearm license in DC…the processing delay will now be 50 years.
The ruling has great substance, but no weight.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:36 am #
Cleo you give those of us who call bush an idiot a bad name.
Comment by Sematicletus on 6/26 @ 11:38 am #
Yeah my index cards are all sticky with the hot mess of CHANGE I shot all over my hand.
My money is still on Verc.
Comment by B Moe on 6/26 @ 11:38 am #
Mine too.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 11:38 am #
“Or is your contempt a disguised envy that he’s not YOUR Nazi?”
Well, ok, if OUR Nazi believes in free markets, property rights, individual rights and limited government, I’m there.
Or maybe you can’t speak English.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 6/26 @ 11:39 am #
“Honestly, if i was going to interpert that one the first sentence would not be taken for a reasoning why the right of the people shall not be infringed, but as the reasoning to infringe it. Per say a few tweaks with the meaning of People to such a degree as it will no longer mean person.”
Well, proggs are notorious for finding meaning without the benefit of knowing (or maybe ignoring) American history, so why should anyone be surprised that you would interperet the second amendment that way?
With any knowledge of American history and the founders, you would know that your interpretation is ridiculous, at best. But then again, perhaps your knowledge of American history was imparted to you by the very people who hate America and what it has always stood for.
It just seems that most of the sheep who have been “educated” since the early seventies have a problem with facts and logic.
Dummies!
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:41 am #
Well this is certainly no SUPER precident thats for sure Lamont. As Pelosi just said they can use the schools to ban guns now. The new school zone will be 10 miles. You wingers better stop patting yourselves on the back about this one.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 11:41 am #
“And meanwhile you gun nuts all want to get your creepy gun oiled bible smelling hands up in womens business.”
Wow.
Jealous much?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 11:44 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/26 @ 10:57 am #
You never answer my question: do you speak English?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 11:46 am #
I have a feeling that an Obama Supreme Court would find the Constitution Unconstitutional.
Comment by Roboc on 6/26 @ 11:47 am #
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:41 am #
Well this is certainly no SUPER precident thats for sure Lamont. As Pelosi just said they can use the schools to ban guns now. The new school zone will be 10 miles. You wingers better stop patting yourselves on the back about this one.
Isn’t today LARP day?
Comment by happyfeet on 6/26 @ 11:47 am #
It seems wrong to me for those four judges to tell the people of D.C. that they don’t have a right to protect themselves, crime being what it is there.
Ginsberg I guess thinks she’s more specialer than those other people around where she lives. What a racist cooze.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 11:47 am #
“#Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:36 am #
Cleo you give those of us who call bush an idiot a bad name.”
Now, now, FascistZero, don’t go insulting your ideological brother.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 6/26 @ 11:48 am #
“Dude I ain’t Jeff.”
Well then you sir are a liberal unicorn! Some of us just thought it impossible that ANYONE could be that kind of universialy obnoxious and at the same time display full on weapons-grade dumb (well, maybe over at the DU but still). Not to mention foster regurgitative debating skills found only in loaded diaper four year olds in the midst of a tantrum.
Most ignore you because responding is like competeing in the Special Olympics. Sure we win, but we just ran the race against a retard.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:50 am #
Tonight is, why you wanna join we need a good 6th that is good at stitching cloaks and tunics.
Comment by happyfeet on 6/26 @ 11:54 am #
Oh. *Ginsburg* … but a racist cooze no matter how you spell it.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 11:54 am #
The phrase “you wingnuts” like “you people” generally indicates that the statement that contains it is very likely bullshit.
Just sayin.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 11:58 am #
Sugartits! How are you today?
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 12:04 pm #
J-Smoove!!! I am golden, thank you. How are you, sir?
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 12:04 pm #
I can see the new campaign slogans:
“We’re just one justice away from having to join the National Guard to keep a weaponâ€Â
Vote McCain ‘08
Let’s print ‘em up!
Comment by Sematicletus on 6/26 @ 12:06 pm #
The phrase “you wingnuts†like “you people†generally indicates that the statement that contains it is very likely bullshit.
VOTE FER OBAMA. ‘08
HE AIN’T LIKE YOU PEOPLE.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 12:06 pm #
Lisa: Costume yet? (he asked with great anticipation)
blah, blah, denounced, sexist, blah blah, patriarchy, yada, yada.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 12:09 pm #
The new school zone will be 10 miles. You wingers better stop patting yourselves on the back about this one.
Super COOL, Progg. And, when that day comes, you can come visit my house in Detroit. There is a school a few blocks away. I’m sure a gun ban would make my neighborhood SUPERDUPER safe!! Of course, the fourth of JUly is coming up. I don’t recommend you visit then … I think a bunch of God and bible clinging rednecks invade the ‘hoods to shoot of their guns on that day.
Comment by Ouroboros on 6/26 @ 12:10 pm #
Isn’t Jeff stoned and drunk on a plane today? I can just see him sitting with his laptop jerkin our chains with the ProggyHero parody from 30,000 ft… either that or his addict Ardvaark is on a bender and sneaking on the ‘puter while Jeff’s away… He is a pretty witty little shit.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 12:10 pm #
I just realized…..
Has anyone ever called for sane, sensible newspaper control?
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 12:10 pm #
- Let me guess. PH and clueless cleo are opposing Hillery - Obama supporters. I was wondering when the cat fight would spill over into our resident drones/trolls/parodites.
“Now all those bitter people in DC can go back to clinging to their guns after 32 years of just clinging to bibles.”
- Dja’ever notice who gets nervous when the citizenry are given their constitutional rights to bear arms. Now I wonder why ever that would be.
- When you try to fuck with our very lives and country I suppose you have a good reason to be nervous concerning an angry citizenry.
- Todays word is “Copperhead”…Can you say Copperhead and use it in a sentence kids?
- BTW, Obamarama just flipped his flop again coming out in support of the Constitutional right to bear ruling, already saying he would favor the change it will bring in Chicago.
- Well isn’t that the shits. The Left just took another giant kick in the stones by their “Changiness” candidate.
- At the rate O! is changing, by election time he’ll be way to the right of McDinosaur, then where will the nutroots be? OMG - Obama is a LINO and a DINO. Anyone got Hillery’s cell phone number?
Comment by Radish on 6/26 @ 12:13 pm #
“And meanwhile you gun nuts all want to get your creepy gun oiled bible smelling hands up in womens business.â€Â
If that business is “allowing them to defend themselves against muggers and rapists and violent ex-husbands instead of dying waiting for the police to show up (if the 911 dispatcher even bothers to send them)”, I say FUCK YEAH.
Comment by Aldo on 6/26 @ 12:14 pm #
The phrase “you wingnuts†like “you people†generally indicates that the statement that contains it is very likely bullshit.
In the thread about Obama citing the bible in support of his politics, (and getting it wrong), one prog commenter conceded that the idea of Reverend Wright’s congregation cheering the BLT was disturbing, but ultimately the commenter concluded that after all the history of racial oppression “those people” have a right to “lash out.”
When I read that comment I thought of you and wondered what you would think of this generous special dispensation that the progs are willing to give you to “lash out” in ways that they themselves believe are wrong.
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 12:15 pm #
Well you do know BBH that Obama is just following the example of all the Dems that won in the southern states. Sprinkle that in with how low bush’s poll numbers are with a dash of how much closer McCain is to my line of thinking than yours and you got the perfect recipe. Hell Obama should just mimic everything McCain says, then just say change or failed bush polices of the past afterwards. That is about all it will take.
Comment by TheGeezer on 6/26 @ 12:16 pm #
Dear Lisa. Hopefully all over the nasty cold? I told you the brandy snifter lets the Nyquil breathe. Especially if a little dribbles sensuously over the lip, like an emerald of love waiting patiently for a gentle kiss to smooth it into a warm and cherished memory…
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 12:18 pm #
TheGeezer I would rather proudly tell the world I LARP then type what you just typed.
Comment by Dian Fossey on 6/26 @ 12:20 pm #
Hmm. After three or more days of observing this new species, ProgressiveHero, I must admit he’s a peculiar one. Full of false bravado, brandishing insults and the vicious beating to death of caricatures, he nonetheless seems a bit unsure of his surroundings. When being called out as a parody, he seems bewildered and becomes so disoriented he starts insulting his fellow traveler, Semenswallower.
How very odd.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/26 @ 12:22 pm #
“Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 12:15 pm #
Well you do know BBH that Obama is just following the example of all the Dems that won in the southern states.”
He’s a segregationist?
Who knew?
Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 12:24 pm #
Wouldn’t you insult someone that makes you actually feel like a parody Dian? If this guy is a fellow traveler I want off the bus.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 6/26 @ 12:25 pm #
“how much closer McCain is to my line of thinking than yours..”
Except for drilling. And the economy. And the right to bear arms. And Iraq/A-stan. And he and his family dedicating their lives to a “brainwashing cult designed to kill brown people.”
You are without a doubt the dumbest sonofabitch on Earth.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 12:28 pm #
“…then just say change or failed bush polices of the past afterwards.”
- I really wish some one would give those confused clowns over at the DNC a good whack with the cluebat, and paint “He’s not fucking running again assholes!” in 50 foot red letters on the front of their building.
Comment by Semenswallower on 6/26 @ 12:29 pm #
I am NOT a fellow traveler. For anyone. I walk alone…
I wonder what latex instruments PH uses while LARPing?
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 12:32 pm #
I’d like to be able to say, Progg, that you can Cleao share ideology, but to be honest, most of the time I can’t tell what the frak he’s talking about. He’s more of a drive-by sniper.
Comment by Pablo on 6/26 @ 12:33 pm #
Meanwhile, in The Land of Obama:
Mayor Daley calls Supreme Court’s gun-ban reversal ‘a very frightening decision’
Why can’t Dickie read?
Comment by Jim in KC on 6/26 @ 12:40 pm #
Between this and the 1939 Miller decision, I’m headed out to buy a surplus tank. That should have a serious beneficial effect on the balance of power in my neighborhood…
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 12:41 pm #
- After watching Hillery on the stage today, trying so very hard to look happy and upbeat as she supposidly threw her support Obama, but the look on her face, a frozen smile, looking more like someone had just forced her to swallow a cup of belladonna, laced with Obamashit, I don’t think the fight is at all over.
- Hillery’s supporters, every bit as strong as Obama’s, as the popular vote proved, are just laying in the tall grass waiting for the Convention.
- We’re going to need a ton of Redenbachers best, with butter and jalopenia cheese topping.
Comment by TheGeezer on 6/26 @ 12:42 pm #
Interesting idea. Is this that narrow in scope? Is the fact that D.C. is not a “home rule” entity make the ruling narrow, applying only to areas under Federal government control? I wonder if Roe v. Wade was that narrow, but we never realized it until now?
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 12:47 pm #
- Which would mean that all abortions are only legal in DC, Puerto Rico, Okinawa, and Guantanamo. Heh. Yes, interesting indeed.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 12:48 pm #
WTF is Daley smoking?
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 12:49 pm #
Imagine I closed the blockquote after last Daley quote. Or not, bitches.
Comment by Great Banana on 6/26 @ 12:50 pm #
I agree with Hegel. 180 degrees of separation is here and WingNut Nation is due for a clubbing. But, knowing the Dialectic will eventually return to your favor, we will carefully observe all your
civil rights during our tenure. Relax, it won’t hurt as much as you think.
there is a big difference between having difference of opinion as to what POLICY should be, and the left’s belief that there is no actual written constitution, that the Constitution is only what they think it means at any given time.
Yes, politics will swing back and forth, and the moderate left will see some success in the near future, but the problem is in the left’s inability to understand what a constitution is. Your belief that there is no constitution, that there is only majority opinion, is incredibly dangerous. That is where our real disagreement lies, and which can never be resolved. You believe that is it perfectly appropriate to ignore what is written in our founding document and do whatever the left wishes, while those of us on the right think the founding doucments actually have some meaning.
In other words, the left (such as you) beleives only in will-to-power while the right believes in rule of law. The left projects onto the right its own desires - verturning all constitutional rights, etc - yet it is always and only the left that seeks to actually do so and sets the stage for doing so by establishing precedent that the actual written constitution has no real meaning.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 12:52 pm #
LOL Geezer. Now I am ready to buy case of it and let it age in the cellar.
Aldo: That is the unkindest cut of all. Blacks are the adored “pets” of a certain set of progressives - unable to behave decently without their guidance. Which is why the ascendancy of Barack Obama over Hillary incensed them so deeply. How DARE he, doesn’t he know his place? He is supposed to be somewhere protesting Don Imus or hitting the talk show circuit promoting the latest Tawana Brawley-type incident. That is “our” place in their scheme of things and we had damned well better remember it.
Sorry, I am feeling bitter and clingy today. I read something that some PUMA asshole wrote and it made me so mad I felt like quitting the party altogether and working as Karl Rove’s personal assistant. Ohhhhh I despise progressives sometimes.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 12:53 pm #
“This decision really places those who are rich and those who are in power [to] always feel safe,†Daley said. “Those who do not have the power do not feel safe, and that’s what they’re saying.â€Â
- You have to be rich to own a gun. When did that rule go into effect, I must have missed that memo.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 12:57 pm #
Lisa - We are still waiting on photographic evidence of sugartits, but have afforded you the benefit of the doubt in the interim, my fine nubian princess.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 12:58 pm #
Lisa,
Make sure Rove promises to take you to the country club.
Comment by Education Guy on 6/26 @ 12:59 pm #
From the Daley quote:
But why should we as a city not be able to protect ourselves from those who want guns in our society?
I’d like to think that this is simply a misstatement, but I suspect he means exactly what he says. He is equating gun ownership, or really the desire for gun ownership with something that the city should be protected against.
Gun grabbers always think they can put the geni back in the bottle. Problem is, that bottle was smashed so long ago that the broken glass has returned to sand by now.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 1:00 pm #
Geezer,
As noted in the initial post, the question of state law is technically open, but not as a practical matter. The Supreme Court generally holds that the Bill of Rights is “incorporated” and applicable to states under the 14th Amendment. I’m oversimplifying, but not enough to raise a serious questionas to whether this applies to states and localities.
Comment by TheGeezer on 6/26 @ 1:01 pm #
And be real clingy with him.
What will you wear?
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 1:03 pm #
Let’s consider the space/time disruption caused by trying to reconcile these two statements:
First up, Mayor Daley:
Aaaaand now this:
Turn your head and look away! If you consider the conundrum and clashing and ignorance a galaxy, far, far, away, will be swallowed by a wormhole the size of John Kerry’s ego.
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 1:03 pm #
Although English is not Daley’s first language — he makes W sound like WFB — he is a bigtime gun-grabber, so that’s probably not a misstatement.
Comment by Aldo on 6/26 @ 1:03 pm #
Lisa, The sense I got from the comment I described was that the commenter believed that BLT was repugnant, but that he was not entitled to hold that opinion due to our nation’s history. IMO it is this type of logic that leads to bad policy.
BTW, what is PUMA?
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:04 pm #
I think that there is pretty good evidence that posting pictures of one’s tits online could lead to personal and professional problems. Otherwise, I would totally be up for it.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:05 pm #
- Daley probably has “Death wish IV” type nightmares.
- Glad to see you back and fit again Sugartitsâ„¢. We’ve missed your smooth buttery flavor.
Comment by TmjUtah on 6/26 @ 1:05 pm #
The big news is that we are four judges short where defending the Constitution is concerned.
I’ll be voting McCain, as well as asking Grandpa Hatch what exactly a judge has to say about tempering their jurisprudence with foreign law or changing times before they can be impeached and run out of town on a rail.
We live in dangerous times.
At the airport, half a step back, all medical tests blessfully negative. After the doc pushed ansthetic he asked if I was sure that flying was a good idea… Found out after I woke up he thought I was the pilot. Lol.
PH and Sem - just damn. Who chooses your socks in the morning? Once again, I raise my hand in request of a tool to screen comments.
Good wishes all. We are checked through to Maryland.
Comment by Sdferr on 6/26 @ 1:05 pm #
What’s PUMA Lisa?
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 1:09 pm #
I don’t know the acronym, but PUMAs are people who are bitter and clinging to the Clinton campaign. Obama refuseniks.
Comment by happyfeet on 6/26 @ 1:09 pm #
I don’t understand why that guy wants to shoot Judge Scalia, or what that would accomplish really. I think even liberals would be a little queasy about changing the balance of the court through assassination. Maybe not, but it just seems an unwise course to pursue.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:09 pm #
- Aldo, PUMA is a post - Hillery/Obama bitch-fight movement for party unity. You could think of it as the Obama side squeezing its knees together and puckering up, with the fervent hopes that the Hillery side won’t tell them to fuck off.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 1:10 pm #
I read something that some PUMA asshole wrote and it made me so mad I felt like quitting the party altogether and working as Karl Rove’s personal assistant. Ohhhhh I despise progressives sometimes.
Well … aren’t you going to share? Let’s feed the hate …
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 1:11 pm #
Ah, then I guess it stands for “Party Unity My Ass.” Plus, it’s Cougary.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:12 pm #
Stands for Party Unity My Ass.
Hardcore Hillary supporters who want to have another 1968.
Comment by Aldo on 6/26 @ 1:12 pm #
Last I heard the Clinton Machine was demanding $10 million for the unity.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:12 pm #
- I think I saw the acronym stands for “Progressives United Movement America” or some such thing.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 1:13 pm #
OOH - it stands for “Party Unity My Ass” … ha! And I thought Dems didn’t have a sense of humor.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/26 @ 1:15 pm #
Can I send them money? I think they need to fight the power on this one…
Comment by TerryH on 6/26 @ 1:17 pm #
Speaking for the(thank God)minority, John Paul Stevens comments upon the individual right of self defense:
“There is no indication that the framers of the amendment intended to enshrine the common-law right of self-defense in the Constitution,” Stevens wrote in his dissent.”
You have the right to become a victim. Once victimhood is achieved the state will look into the matter in proportion to the protected (or lack thereof) status of the victim.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:17 pm #
Most of the mainstream Hillary people are on board with Obama. But there are some people who have shown some very interesting ideas….
One guy has a grudge against the dude at daily kos but no problem with Obama, but since Kos is kind of in the tank for Obama, he is going to “take down Obama” to show Kos His Great Powers.
The founder of Party Unity My Ass is some lady who says she is a long time Hillary supporter but someone checked and revealed that she has been giving money to McCain since 2000, which she does not deny. But she says she did that as part of her Super Secret Plan to Defeat Bush, lol. She has never given a dime to Hillary Clinton, interestingly enough.
It is just a bunch of idiots, but they are really nasty and arrogant and say the darndest things about black people in general (expressing basic SHOCK that they didn’t vote en masse for the wife of the First Black President, as they were told to do).
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:17 pm #
- You gotta say that the race between “Candy Man” and “Assisted Living” isn’t nearly as entertaining as the one between CM and RoboBitch.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 1:19 pm #
Knock yourself out, Carin!
P.U.M.A.
Comment by RC on 6/26 @ 1:20 pm #
I’m voting for Lisa for President…what pseudonym surname should I use?
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:20 pm #
No, BBH. There are two of them. One is Party Unity My Ass and the other is Progressives United blah blah blah.
The funny thing is, Carin, they ARE the power. They just got overridden and now they are PISSED. Since they have spent their ENTIRE LIVES crying victim, this is really energizing for them. They get to relive the sixties and everything! Squee!!
Comment by syn on 6/26 @ 1:21 pm #
“And meanwhile you gun nuts all want to get your creepy gun oiled bible smelling hands up in womens business.â€Â
And this is from a Progg who no doubt would have no problem with the government sticking a camera up a citizen’s ass to monitor the amount of toilet paper used.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:22 pm #
- Damn. Its true. No wonder FOX didn’t give the acronym meaning the other day. Heh.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:23 pm #
All I know is that everything conservatives have ever said about 60s progressives is right. They can suck my ass.
Seriously.
Comment by Aldo on 6/26 @ 1:23 pm #
I like the top post at the PUMA page Tex linked: “Are Obama’s gaffes a cry for help?”
Comment by kelly on 6/26 @ 1:24 pm #
“I think even liberals would be a little queasy about changing the balance of the court through assassination”
One would think, yes. But one would be wrong. They seen pretty damn cavalier about offing W, why wouldn’t they feel the same about Roberts or, even more so, Thomas?
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 1:24 pm #
Oh, Lisa, there is some grade A isiot smack from those people:
Hee, hee, I can only imagine how you reacted to a phone call from one of those slavering turds! “Love object in office!?” Oh, my, I may give myself a hernia!
Women scorned, Lisa. Women scorned.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:25 pm #
You are probably right about the rest of them too.
(Cynically ponders the state of the nation.)
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:25 pm #
- Oil hit 140 bucks a barrel today, and almost every stock is deppressed across the board.
- I’ve seen this sort of thing before in other critical commodities. Somethings got to give. The higher the water goes behind the dam, the bigger the flood when it finally breaks.
Comment by Rick Ballard on 6/26 @ 1:26 pm #
Ohhhhh I despise progressives
sometimes.Darkerella’s battle cry?
BTW - when are the action figures going on sale?
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 1:28 pm #
Costume! WHAT ABOUT THE COSTUME!?!?!?
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:28 pm #
This guy is a dick too BJTexas, but the first item on the page IS pretty hilarious.
It made me giggle.
Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 1:29 pm #
“There is no indication that the framers of the amendment intended to enshrine the common-law right of self-defense in the Constitution,†Stevens wrote in his dissent.â€Â
So it is up to the SC to determine if we have a right of self-defense? Even SemenCleo’s mother would find that one hard to swallow.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:30 pm #
LOL Rick. My designer is still working on the sugartits.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:32 pm #
“Even SemenCleo’s mother would find that one hard to swallow.”
- Progg CAT FIGHT!!!111eleventyone11!!!
Comment by Rick Ballard on 6/26 @ 1:34 pm #
“My designer is still working on the sugartits.”
If he needs a hand (or two) with the situation just let us know.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 1:38 pm #
Rick Ballard - DEEEEEEEEENOUNCED! (heh)
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:39 pm #
- Observers on the ground are saying that approximately 60 out of the 240 of Hillery’s big contributors will attend tonights fund raiser at the Mayflower hotel, and tomorrows in Unity NH.
- Thats probably a good indication of the percentage of Hillery supporters that are readily willing to get behind Obama, although the joke of the day is that the Hillery people won’t have to right a check to get in, just one to leave.
Comment by JHoward on 6/26 @ 1:41 pm #
This is the start of the second half of the financial hurricane, BBH. The passing half that does all the real damage. Wait until you see what a sea of ARM resets looks like in spring of next year.
I vote we give the Fed a pile of new authority. Oh wait, we did already.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 1:44 pm #
- Jeez…make that “write a check”…I needs more coffee….
Comment by Karl on 6/26 @ 1:46 pm #
IIRC, that’s the Unity meeting at the Hotel California.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:52 pm #
Rick I will take that under advisement, lol.
Hee hee, BBH.
Comment by kelly on 6/26 @ 1:55 pm #
“Wait until you see what a sea of ARM resets looks like in spring of next year.”
Yup. Good thing the Senate will have bailed out B of A and, by proxy, Countrywide Financial before then and slid the tab over to taxpayers.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 1:55 pm #
It is true that Democrats, when faced with certain victory, will never fail to stop and gnaw their legs down to bloody stumps.
Sigh.
Comment by JHoward on 6/26 @ 2:04 pm #
Well, there is that nice benevolent refund check they just sent us serfs to keep us settled down.
The difference between Rome and the US is that J.M. Keynes hadn’t been born then.
Comment by urthshu on 6/26 @ 2:08 pm #
A lot of comments and I’ve only just begun - so if it came up already, sorry….
The restriction on the possession of firearms by those with a history of mental illnesses has always struck me as odd.
On the one hand, its the law declaring that once a person is mentally ill, s/he *always* is, no chance for remission.
OTOH, most lefties - indeed, many reasonable people - believe that mental illness shouldn’t carry significant stigma, since its an illness after all.
Yet… here we have a stigma enshrined in law that everybody is A-OK with.
Now, I’ve read up on all the cases with psychos grabbing a gun and killing folks, too, so I’m not talking about actively psychotic people. But after they’re done with treatment, why say they shouldn’t be allowed to have a gun?
And if its insisted upon anyway, why should a gun-owner seek professional help, esp. if they need it?
I don’t have good answers to this, BTW. Just saying there’s no consistency in anyone’s thinking.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 2:09 pm #
Lisa: New Campaign Slogans
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: Nothing is More Uncertain Than Certain Victory!
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY: Even Our Members Hate Us!
Comment by TerryH on 6/26 @ 2:14 pm #
PH: “So it is up to the SC to determine if we have a right of self-defense? Even SemenCleo’s mother would find that one hard to swallow.”
Gee PH, that kind of attitude will get you swiftly disowned by the Progs. How can you achieve an equitable distribution of power unless you control it absolutely. Lord Acton had some doubts about absolute power but, being a dead white guy, what did he know?
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 2:19 pm #
LMAO BJTexas. Those are awesome. I am going to make t-shirts!
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 2:23 pm #
Bj is pretty funny for being an oppressor of the brown people.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 2:25 pm #
Lisa: Let’s license them and split the profits! We’ll call our partnership company “Bleeding Wingnuts” and set up a booth at the conventions.
We’ll be rich, I tells ya, RICH!!!
Comment by Aldo on 6/26 @ 2:36 pm #
We’ll call our partnership company “Bleeding Wingnutsâ€Â
You better check to make sure the Paulbots don’t already have that name trademarked.
Comment by JD on 6/26 @ 2:49 pm #
Bleeding wingnuts? Isn’t that what happened to you when you tried to shave the dingleberries with an old Schick?
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 6/26 @ 2:59 pm #
“There is no indication that the framers of the amendment intended to enshrine the common-law right of self-defense in the Constitution,†Stevens wrote in his dissent.â€Â
Oh, really? There are none so blind as those unwilling to do research.
Benjamin Franklin: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” (Nov 11 1755, from the Pennsylvania Assembly’s reply to
the Governor of Pennsylvania.)
George Washington: “A free people ought to be armed.” (Jan 14 1790, Boston Independent
Chronicle.)
Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in
almost every country in Europe.” (1787, Pamphlets on the Constitution of the US)
Thomas Jefferson: “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” (T. Jefferson papers,
334, C.J. Boyd, Ed. 1950)
James Madison: “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of
other countries, whose people are afraid to trust them with arms.” (Federalist Paper #46)
Patrick Henry: “The people have a right to keep and bear arms.” (Elliott, Debates at 185)
Samual Adams: “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United
States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” (Convention of the Commonwealth
of Mass., 86-87, date still being sought)
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 2:59 pm #
Jeez you guys are brutal. Ok how about “Wingbats T-Shirts.”
Lisa and I are open to investors, except for JD who is too much of a homophobic mysogynist that even the Paulines won’t have him.
Comment by BJTex on 6/26 @ 3:01 pm #
Dread: Nice work. I’m a cuttin’ and a pastin’ and a savin’.
Comment by TerryH on 6/26 @ 3:13 pm #
Dread Cthulhu @ 202: Thanks indeed.
I was astounded to read Justice Stevens comment, and wondered if he, like ProgHero, might be a parody standin.
Does Stevens have a body double?
Comment by Dewclaw on 6/26 @ 3:17 pm #
Could Lisa’s superhero outfit go along these lines?
http://xrl.us/go3vs
Comment by kelly on 6/26 @ 3:20 pm #
YYou see, Justice Stevens, there’s this new thing call the…internet and…what? Well, it’s been around for a while and…huh? Oh, you just need a computer or some sort of hand held…come again? I said a computer, y’know, a…oh, hell, forget it.
Comment by Rusty on 6/26 @ 3:24 pm #
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Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 11:15 am #
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Honestly, if i was going to interpert that one the first sentence would not be taken for a reasoning why the right of the people shall not be infringed, but as the reasoning to infringe it. Per say a few tweaks with the meaning of People to such a degree as it will no longer mean person.
It’s not a sentence, but the subordinate clause of the sentence. ‘Regulated’ had a different meaning then than it has now. In the original meaning it meant more like qualified, or prepared. As when a clock was said to be regulated. I can understand your confusion, you being a dumbass and all.
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Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 3:32 pm #
I ment the words contained before the first two commas. Sorry. Those words I believe are a qualifier. As in “A well oiled car, being necessary for the proper maintenance and operation of the car,” for what is contained afterward. an example of contained afterward for that metaphore would be “the right of people to have their cars oil be changed once every 3 thousand miles shall not be infringed”
Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 3:34 pm #
god damn I really jacked that comment up. Well if you can figure out a point from it then you win a cookie.
Comment by Rusty on 6/26 @ 3:48 pm #
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Comment by ProggHero on 6/26 @ 4:54 am #
Well you better get your clock out and remember the exact time today the SC takes away the 2nd. When that happens please come back and apologize for calling me a fascist. Even if it doesn’t pass the fact that the ruling will be 5-4 should scare you.
You jacked that one too. Don’t know jack about much do you?
Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 3:58 pm #
Well at least I can say I never voted for bush. Let me guess you did though didn’t you? Thanks for jacking up the country.
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 4:27 pm #
The founding fathers were guarding against the possibility Americans would lose their liberty to another tyranny like the one they just defeated. There was faith that the people can self-govern, and the revolutionary spirit guiding the 2nd Amendment is one of the most important checks on an over reaching government.
That’s why socialists hate the right to bear arms, it’s hard to get tyrannical control over a well armed citizenry.
Oh, and RE. progghero…I’m coming around to Bmoes suspicion. Could just be wishful thinking though, I miss that guy.
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 4:44 pm #
A well oiled Car?!
OK, hows this: A well maintained gas tank, being necessary for he operation of a planet ruining SUV, will not threaten the proscribed safety or efficiency of the SUV.
Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 4:47 pm #
Yeah whatever I suck at metaphores. Racist.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 6/26 @ 4:49 pm #
Yeah whatever I suck at metaphores.
Also spelling.
Also logic.
If we start going down the list of your shortcomings, though, we’re going to be here all night.
Comment by happyfeet on 6/26 @ 4:53 pm #
You rock at oxymorons though.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 6/26 @ 4:58 pm #
Except for the oxy part.
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 5:18 pm #
Bleeding Wingnuts: I love it.
Lets shop it to some venture capitalists.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 6/26 @ 5:27 pm #
Bleeding Wingnuts
Sounds like a brand of combination jockstrap/panty shield marketed for extremely butch mid-op transsexuals. The wings would both protect the panties and provide extra support for the nuts.
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 5:35 pm #
I think bleeding wingnuts is more a rock band name.
Or what an English man might say whilst rooting around under his workbench.
Comment by Rusty on 6/26 @ 5:37 pm #
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Comment by ProggressiveHero on 6/26 @ 3:58 pm #
Well at least I can say I never voted for bush. Let me guess you did though didn’t you? Thanks for jacking up the country.
That’s it? That’s your comeback? Is that subtlety or nuance? It’s hard to tell. I’m gonna go out on a limb here, but I bet you can’t logically defend your decision to not vote for bush.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 6/26 @ 5:52 pm #
Is that another British euphemism I’ve somehow missed? “What are you doing?” “Oh, just rooting around under my workbench.”
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 6:15 pm #
Is that another British euphemism I’ve somehow missed?
Sorry I wasn’t clear.
Here I was, trying to paint a picture of a retired fellow in London, in his garage putting together some stupid furniture his wife dragged home from Walmart, when he mis-threads then drops an important fastener. After a cursory scan, Edgar; yeah, lets call him Edgar… Edgar sighs, screws his monocle tighter, and dropping to his knees, mutters…wait for it…”bloody wingnuts”.
I hate having to explain my humorous(by intent anyway) prose, that means I failed miserably.
*sigh*
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 6:20 pm #
Anyway, whatever.
I mostly comment for my own amusement, if you don’t get my humor, probably means you are part of it.
Oh, I’m just messing with you slart. Denounce me if you must!
Comment by Rusty on 6/26 @ 6:23 pm #
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Now THAT was subtle.
Some British model engineer named Edward was fiddling about in his shed and happened to lose a grub screw on the floor. He exclaimed, wingnut! Not Edward, mind you, but some other chap… named Edgar.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/26 @ 6:26 pm #
“but I bet you can’t logically defend your decision to not vote for bush.”
- ProggHeron probably heard that Kerry shot himself in the ass with a grenade launcher….twoce…..what better creds could a candidate have…..well maybe a magic hat from Cambodia…..but still…
Comment by lee on 6/26 @ 6:30 pm #
@#227-
Well, he asked for it!
/big fat old raspberry>
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 6/26 @ 7:50 pm #
lee: “That’s why socialists hate the right to bear arms, it’s hard to get tyrannical control over a well armed citizenry. ”
Funny you should mention that…
Adolf Hitler: “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun
registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead.”
(Chancelor’s Speech, 1935)
Mao Tse Tung: “All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must
command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.” (Problems of
War and Strategy, Nov 6 1938, published in “Selected Works of Mao Zedong,” 1965)
Diane Feinstein: “US Senator, If I could have banned them all- ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in
your guns’ -I would have!” (Statement on TV program 69 Minutes, Feb 5 1995)
Mahatma Gandhi: “Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the
act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.” (”Gandhi, an Autobiography,” M.K. Gandhi,
446)
Comment by Pablo on 6/26 @ 7:53 pm #
Lisa,
I’m guessing that the item was the new Baracky Seal. Which is pretty cute, but the next post got my attention too.
I think we could do business with that guy.
Comment by ThomasD on 6/26 @ 8:21 pm #
I ment the words contained before the first two commas. Sorry. Those words I believe are a qualifier.
Those words are what is commonly known as a dependent clause. That other group of words? An independent clause - you know, one that can stand all by itself.
Read this
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/the_second_amendment_much_ado.html
and maybe you’ll learn something.
Comment by grouch on 6/26 @ 8:33 pm #
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
An analogy which occured to me a long time ago is along the lines of: Having a mean muthafuckin dog, being necessary to keep the goblins out of my yard, the right for me to have a big ass stick to keep it from eating me, shall not be infringed.
Comment by CelticDragon on 6/26 @ 9:09 pm #
Ok, now I’m waiting for a picture of Lisa dressed as Emma Frost. Rrrrrroooooowwwwww!
I totally denounce myself for that…
Comment by Lisa on 6/26 @ 10:48 pm #
Sounds like a brand of combination jockstrap/panty shield marketed for extremely butch mid-op transsexuals. The wings would both protect the panties and provide extra support for the nuts.
LMAO!!!
Comment by peter jackson on 6/26 @ 11:13 pm #
Here in Austin the bumper sticker I want would read:
Oh I’m paying attention, I’m just questioning the validity of your outrage.
Hell, it’s probably available somewhere, I haven’t looked.
That’s EXACTLY the image that popped into my mind. Stop that!
Man, it’s not everyday that the government recognizes a right of the People and stands down. It’s a great day.
yours/
peter.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 6/27 @ 4:26 am #
Gah, I was just riffing off you. Badly, probably. Obviously, even. The picture you painted came through loud and clear; I just chose to misinterpret it so’s I could try and make a funny.
Fail.
Considering this is your first comment in this thread, some context might be nice. Probably this is context fail on my part.
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Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/27 @ 6:24 am #
Think of it like this:
[Michael Caine]
“Bleeding Wingnutsâ€Â
{/Michael Caine]
Comment by lumpenscholar on 6/27 @ 8:45 am #
“Rooting” is British for, uh, well let’s just say Edgar was under the work bench with his girlfriend, and they were, uh, “Oh! Honey! Bloody wingnuts! Dropped a whole can of them under here. Be in in just a minute.”
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